Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

[Motoko and Scully]

Oh and please make it quick. Regardless of Titus' alignment here, the tactics she's using fucking disgust me. Nothing I hate more than being misrepped like this and seeing the truth get twisted and turned, then people are stupid enough to fall for it as opposed to seeing it for what it is because they're too lazy to inform themselves (read my posts with context in mind).

Look, I'm not queen Titus. The AtE isn't useful. You want me to see who scum is, show me something or quit whining. I've asked like ten times. Each time I ask, I get some spin on Titus is an evil villian for not seeing things my way. That gets really fucking old.

There's other players in the game. Talk to them and about them if you can't answer a direct question.

~Titus

[Motoko and Scully]

Because ABR is antitown as heck

Then why were you voting with him yesterday?


~Titus

Because bussing is a thing?
ABR does it a lot as scum from what I've read too iirc

I'm not going to read rb's posts anymore

He does somewhat as scum. I don't think he actually sticks with it near lynch time. If so, why didn't you say this yesterday? I would have liked to have heard that then. What do you think of ABR's alignment now? Why?

~Titus

Which wagons do you think were busses that he was on?

[Motoko and Scully]

Assume this is your world SirCakez and we just live in it. Who is the lynch?

[Motoko and Scully]

Basically, Mokoto and Scully is trying to get everyone to vote ABR even though they're town-aligned, for dubious "reaction" reasons.

ABR is not town. I started with reaction D1. That's not my rationale today. Their play matches cyberpunk but I see little bussing from them.

[Motoko and Scully]

Why is abr town iraonvp?

[Motoko and Scully]

Yeah, you're just trying to give him an out. Nobody in the game has any ability other than "vote", that is certain by now.

Then how come you still think ABR is town? It's pretty obvious he lied in his cc. There are no Mage cops.

[Motoko and Scully]

Yeah, you're just trying to give him an out. Nobody in the game has any ability other than "vote", that is certain by now.

Then how come you still think ABR is town? It's pretty obvious he lied in his cc. There are no Mage cops.

What?

Why are there no mage cops? Because you said? That is your entire argument.

Pretty much every Mage says so. Yeah, me and my army.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus why would there be 3 cops?

I keep using cop as investigator. There are no Mage investigators.

[Motoko and Scully]

That doesn't mean anything.

Also, Dunnstral is voting ABR and he is clearly scum-aligned because of how muted and dishonest he is...

Can I see your last reads? Trying to determine if I should defenstrate you or give you a hug.

VOTE: ABR

[Motoko and Scully]

Also, I think ABR could be fakeclaiming and town-aligned, and Mokoto and Scully also seemed to imply that they thought this earlier.

Considered it. Changed my mind. I gave him a pass solely because of how little I think of him.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus if this lynch goes through and ABR is town I am going to vote you for the rest of the game regardless of what I think your alignment is btw.

Why make a threat like this? We were doing good yesterday trying to reach out to each other. Now you're threatening to turbo lynch me for voting obvious scum. The threat doesn't bother me, but the fact you did does.

ABR needs more votes unless you have a compelling reason to think he is town.

[Motoko and Scully]

That doesn't mean anything.

Also, Dunnstral is voting ABR and he is clearly scum-aligned because of how muted and dishonest he is...

Can I see your last reads? Trying to determine if I should defenstrate you or give you a hug.

VOTE: ABR

Okay, I will try.

Town-aligned - Foxbeebirdboy, Shiro, yellowbaron
Less town-aligned - Bieber Brothers, Motoko and Scully, SirCakez, Luna Fox, Masquerade, Frizzy Cola, shaddowez, Albert B. Rampage
Null-aligned - 100 Percent Ego, Yume, randomidget
Less scum-aligned - Vedith
Scum-aligned - Dunnstral, PeregrineV, Radical Rat

Suppose ABR scum and Tevinter town, what happens to your reads?

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus if this lynch goes through and ABR is town I am going to vote you for the rest of the game regardless of what I think your alignment is btw.

Why make a threat like this? We were doing good yesterday trying to reach out to each other. Now you're threatening to turbo lynch me for voting obvious scum. The threat doesn't bother me, but the fact you did does.

ABR needs more votes unless you have a compelling reason to think he is town.

Lynching a claimed cop before they get a chance to use night actions really bothers me.

Ok. He's like not a cop though. His claim is a lie. Do you have anything supporting his claim as bring townie? Otherwise, why wouldn't every cop claim scum?

[Motoko and Scully]

*every scum claim cop. Lol.

[Motoko and Scully]

That doesn't mean anything.

Also, Dunnstral is voting ABR and he is clearly scum-aligned because of how muted and dishonest he is...

Can I see your last reads? Trying to determine if I should defenstrate you or give you a hug.

VOTE: ABR

Okay, I will try.

Town-aligned - Foxbeebirdboy, Shiro, yellowbaron
Less town-aligned - Bieber Brothers, Motoko and Scully, SirCakez, Luna Fox, Masquerade, Frizzy Cola, shaddowez, Albert B. Rampage
Null-aligned - 100 Percent Ego, Yume, randomidget
Less scum-aligned - Vedith
Scum-aligned - Dunnstral, PeregrineV, Radical Rat

Suppose ABR scum and Tevinter town, what happens to your reads?

Then some of my reads are incorrect, obviously I don't think that everyone in your topic is town-aligned and I think ABR is scum-aligned.

This is a silly question that is very difficult to answer because that didn't happen and I doubt it will.

Can you humor me?

[Motoko and Scully]

I just don't see what we lose by lynching him tomorrow.

The possibility he's double actioned scum might be that. :/

[Motoko and Scully]

I just don't see what we lose by lynching him tomorrow.

The possibility he's double actioned scum might be that. :/

He isn't don't worry.

That requires me trusting you. :/

[Motoko and Scully]

Do you guys have a guilty on ABR?

What would your reads look like if we did?

[Motoko and Scully]

Do you guys have a guilty on ABR?

What would your reads look like if we did?

scum: ABR

You can do better.

[Motoko and Scully]

That requires me trusting you. :/

^_^ Do I ever lie as town?

I don't have you as a townread though.

[Motoko and Scully]

What would your thoughts be on Masq v rR?

[Motoko and Scully]

That requires me trusting you. :/

^_^ Do I ever lie as town?

I don't have you as a townread though.

What if I told you I was a mason?

Masons drive me up the wall and routinely look like scum in my scumhunting. My belief of your claim would depend on your alleged partner.

[Motoko and Scully]

That requires me trusting you. :/

^_^ Do I ever lie as town?

I don't have you as a townread though.

What if I told you I was a mason?

Masons drive me up the wall and routinely look like scum in my scumhunting. My belief of your claim would depend on your alleged partner.

Oh you definitely wouldn't be happy if I told you.

I would rather be unhappy and reset than happy and wrong.

[Motoko and Scully]

I would rather be unhappy and reset than happy and wrong.

His name starts with an R and ends with a B

IF that's true, I am sorry for you.

[Motoko and Scully]

Beeboy, is this puppy mafia masons or confirmed same alignment masons?

[Motoko and Scully]

Beeboy, is this puppy mafia masons or confirmed same alignment masons?

^_^? I wasn't a mason in puppy mafia

No but you joked about it. I was asking if you were serious.

If so, you can out something that happened in orlais chat. That confirms you had access to the chat and this you're either scum or masons with rb.

[Motoko and Scully]

Well tonight it can be tested. Shadowez can say a random fruit. Rb tells you what it is. You announce it.

Why would rb volunteer to be lynched as a mason though?

[Motoko and Scully]

Shiro can do the same in Antiva but it can be a cookie flavor.

[Motoko and Scully]

Why would I lie about being a mason as scum here?

Desperation. I am basically the biggest paranoia person on mason claims ever. After the game is over ask Drixx and Cerb. I don't thing we should vote you today given your claims can be semi-verified but I legit don't trust mason claims.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus let's say I am not a mason. Why are you trying so hard to confirm that right this very minute?

Confirming you resets my biggest scumread. Better to do that now, rather than later.

[Motoko and Scully]

Foxboy remains the only slot in the game with 3 digit IQ at this stage.

Foxboy, who am I voting?

When your "mason" buddy makes posts like this, I want to lynch him into the ground.

[Motoko and Scully]

I thought there was a guilty as soon as you all piled on him at the start of the day but then Titus said there was no guilty like 3 times. Kind of fogs my ability to see the soft claim I originally saw.

It was deliberate to get people talking. I am good at wifom. As you very well notice, there likely was no doctor on Luna. That information nets us another guilty or clear besides ABR.

[Motoko and Scully]

Luna Fox, did you get a result on ABR of scum-aligned?

Is it possible for them to be both telling the truth? I believe Luna Fox over ABR, but I think they are both town-aligned.

Yeah ABR copped guilty.

[Motoko and Scully]

So how come this went from "ABR's claim is dodgy and we should lynch that" to "we have a guilty"

Why not start with guilty?

To get people talking. Reactions, such as pushing on Dunn and selectively defending ABR do not happen if one just outs the guilty.

[Motoko and Scully]

That will be confirmed tomorrow that beeboy and rb share alignment. By the fruit cookie test.

[Motoko and Scully]

UNVOTE: ABR

We need to hear from Random.

[Motoko and Scully]

Random is almost certain town.

[Motoko and Scully]

Luna isn't going to be alive to preform an action night 3 lol

doctors and stuff???

She very well may.

We need to hear from Random.

[Motoko and Scully]

Random

Hi. You should have knowledge. We'd love to hear from you.

[Motoko and Scully]

Beeboy, I think you should double up on Luna but I reserve the right to change my mind based on what Random says.

Is the double up save able .

[Motoko and Scully]

My analysis is even more sound. If scum stole the warden from Beeboy, then Antiva's warden cannot be responsible for the no kill.
Tevinter cannot because guilty.
Olais was picked by ABR.
So that means an insane high probability that Random knows why no one died.

[Motoko and Scully]

Well cannot is a little strong. It is highly improbable.

[Motoko and Scully]

Well, who did they claim to vote for? Why?

If they outright lied, everyone would know 2 scum in Antiva.

[Motoko and Scully]

Given the circumstances, why would anyone argue Shiro for warden? I townread him, but he just led the group astray on a lynch. How would he be more important than two cop checks?

[Motoko and Scully]

And Shiro's on my PoE list...

Plothole. Shiro is likely scum in 3 antiva scum situations, not 2. In order to steal the warden, scum need two voters not aligned. Which means voting themselves is harder.

[Motoko and Scully]

RR, there's a guilty but don't vote yet.

[Motoko and Scully]

And Shiro's on my PoE list...

Plothole. Shiro is likely scum in 3 antiva scum situations, not 2. In order to steal the warden, scum need two voters not aligned. Which means voting themselves is harder.

Well PoE list because Shiro's not townie enough to me, you know how my reads work XD

Right. Remember how warden voting works though. A player is not allowed to self vote.

Therefore, in order to elect someone other than Beeboy, scum need at least two votes. If scum A votes scum B, scum B also cannot vote scum B. So to get someone else, two players must agree.

Unless 3 scum in Antiva, Shiro is likely town barring major townbeard.

Of course, this ignores the probability of town scumreading Beeboy.

[Motoko and Scully]

I did and still kinda do.

[Motoko and Scully]

Still we need to hear from Shiro and random.

[Motoko and Scully]

There is a guilty. We still need to hear from Shiro. No one hammer.

[Motoko and Scully]

God I need more sleep.

So that realistically leaves whomever ABR appointed (as remote as that is) as the reason why there was no NK.

[Motoko and Scully]

Didn't luna get doctored by someone?

They most likely just tried to kill the cop.

-hebi

[Motoko and Scully]

I find it very ironic that the scumteam probably wound up sabotaging their own kill by appointing the wrong wardens.

[Motoko and Scully]

Someone unvote so ABR doesnt self hammer.

[Motoko and Scully]

There is a guilty. We still need to hear from Shiro. No one hammer.

Can you quote it?

it's Luna's. She first told us in Tevinter.

[Motoko and Scully]

Someone unvote so ABR doesnt self hammer.

Its why I'm not voting ABR right now

Regardless, we have a lynchable, just figuring out where the kill went likely gives us two confirmed townies, which is obviously solid.

-hebi

[Motoko and Scully]

It could give us a scumfuck though if Masq or Shaddowez is roleblocker.

~Titus

[Motoko and Scully]

Warden Vote: Frizzy Cola

Our Warden should be confirmed now unless someone changes it.

Standing by to hammer when the other nations are good.

We need a moment to confirm ours at least.

-hebi

[Motoko and Scully]

Never mind, I think we're good.

-hebi

[Motoko and Scully]

So, I'm gonna roll with Ockham's Razor and say there was no kill because no one tried to kill.

uhh, occam's razor says the most simple possibility for a missing kill is because it was blocked. You said yourself that it's not meta for scum to NK so that's going leaps in logic there, while it is a possibility it's an unlikely one imo.

Right.

If we eliminate Tevinter (luna has a result), Shiro is Redirector and RR suggested not BP so Shiro cannot be reason without rr plus PV, random claimed double actioner so that leaves Orlais.

rb was not warden. Feelmi was dead. Abr could not warden himself.

That leaves Shaddowez and Masq slot. ABR bribing Masq makes a shit ton of sense. Masq then jails ABR to protect him and blocks the NK.

That's my theory.

[Motoko and Scully]

it's Luna's. She first told us in Tevinter.

So Luna has confirmed to you guys that ABR is scum, right?
Because her ISO suggests that she isn't going to say it here. But surely if you have already said this, then why would you carry on holding the information from us to clarify.

Because everyone in tevinter know he's scum?

If this is because you all believe him to be scum without confirmation - Then what changed from this comment;

Luna, say it with me. Diffusion of power.

And ABR is lying town.

Also this one, I guess...

I have very little doubt he is lying. ABR has no qualms about lying if we don't do what he wants. He tried to set up all mages are cops just so we'd lynch Luna.

Nothing. I just believe ABR lies and degrades as both alignments.

Then lol guilty. Best thing to be wrong on ever.

[Motoko and Scully]

Not completely caught up, but got a few highlights. I'll put a fruit into chat tonight to confirm the rb/tbb mason claim.

I'm not going to claim my warden ability yet, but I will say that I'm fairly certain it's not unique. I don't think wet can use that as a tell.

Are all wardens chosen? Hammer should not be dropped until that is done. I'll call intent if so

Shaddowez were you warden n1? Or do we need to wait on Masq sub?

[Motoko and Scully]

Nothing. I just believe ABR lies and degrades as both alignments.

Then lol guilty. Best thing to be wrong on ever.

But yesterday you were more for him being town lying, correct?
Something must have changed your opinion as now you feel stronger to him being scum than town (otherwise you wouldn't want his lynch, of course).

A guilty on an asshole

[Motoko and Scully]

Lol @ how bad Titus' theories are.

You'd be dead. You take the place of the NK victim as bodyguard.

[Motoko and Scully]

....you only die if your target was the NK target.

Are you trying to be dense?

No but with your claim, that does not explain why no one died.
You body guarded wrong.
Shiro redirected PV onto RR who is not claiming bulletproof
Random claim double item person
Tevinter had Luna as warden

Why did the NK fail?

[Motoko and Scully]

Rb, can you please just engage a direct question without an insult?

Like if everything above is true, why did we get an NK?

[Motoko and Scully]

I didn't say you lied about being warden just that the whole thing makes no sense. Lying about being warden is simply dumb.

[Motoko and Scully]

So why do you keep pushing the theory that I'm not warden when I'm claiming warden.

Like it's literally impossible for your theory to work unless I'm lying...Titus is not this dumb. Alignment check her.

You might try reading my posts.

I have zero qualms about being checked. You're just a discrediting asshole. You should stop recycling the tactics of dead scum. Abr scum thought it was a great idea to personally attack me and criticize rather than working together. I am trying to fucking see you as town but the tude does not help.

[Motoko and Scully]

If Beeboy doesn't confirm rb as a mason tomorrow, I am voting rb.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus has consistently:

- distorted facts
- hidden her outright scummy play behind her 'theories'
- tried to play it off like I'm being incredibly unreasonable, when she's blatantly twisting words and logic to fit her whims, but then acts like it's me doing that
- it's very clear it's actually Titus doing this though, because of the two of us only Titus is basing her game off flimsy as fuck pre-flip association nation-join theories where she's claiming to have solid theories on that basis alone. She's basically IGNORED all of what's happened in this game in favour of fitting this narrative

Yeah, given ABR was scum, my theories might not be so bad.

I want to know why there was no NK prior to nightfall.

[Motoko and Scully]

Yeah, like you should absolutely try reading instead of painting me as an evil charicature. I didn't call you a liar about being warden. This situation makes no sense even assuming you being warden is true. I want to know why.

You seem to copy dead scum ABR, derail scumhunting, and discredit me every two seconds.

Beeboy is trying to get me to see you as town but to do that, I need to see town behavior.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus has consistently:

- distorted facts
- hidden her outright scummy play behind her 'theories'
- tried to play it off like I'm being incredibly unreasonable, when she's blatantly twisting words and logic to fit her whims, but then acts like it's me doing that
- it's very clear it's actually Titus doing this though, because of the two of us only Titus is basing her game off flimsy as fuck pre-flip association nation-join theories where she's claiming to have solid theories on that basis alone. She's basically IGNORED all of what's happened in this game in favour of fitting this narrative

Yeah, given ABR was scum, my theories might not be so bad.

I want to know why there was no NK prior to nightfall.

What if RR is BP but scum and PV killer got redirected to his buddy BP and they are covering it up ?

It's a possibility. Which is why we need to hear from people rather than going for mystic there's another protective role separate.

If no one claims it, it's PV and RR or no kill.

[Motoko and Scully]

Um, Titus. Are you capable of following basic logic? At all?

You are literally refusing to see the possibility that your theory is wrong just because there's unknown factors in the game, which means you're disbelieving my claim. You don't have to say someone's a liar to paint them as a liar and you absolutely know that.

This is so far removed from what is happening.

Is it rb Beeboy pv rr?

Fits with abr scum meta

[Motoko and Scully]

You want me to entertain your theory, when I know it's wrong?

Your theory rests on me not being Warden. I was Warden, ergo your theory is wrong.

Why would I answer a bunch of questions about a theory which I know is wrong?

The only thing removed from reality is your theory.

Can you shut up please?

My facts are no one died.
My theory was wardens are responsible.
Given that looks less likely (unless PV and RR team), the protective should claim. I am processing through this for a reason.
My theory didn't require any one person as warden. Like can you please stop being so self centered? K thx.

[Motoko and Scully]

Yeah, if there's no protective we get two highly likely scum or Shiro scum and totally lying (very very unlikely). If there is, we get another conftown. Say what you want, but you can't dodge that by coping from scum's attack Titus playbook.

[Motoko and Scully]

Well Titus is known for Moon Logic, she's not exactly wrong, but i dont agree with everything she's saying.
There's also the fact that ABR wanted to scare off scans off him AND Titus, maybe it's plausible he was doing it to save titus if i scanned him idk, but with the ammount of info we have right now im more likely to think Titus is town just off the fact that ABR was pushing very hard scum existance in Tevinter when i wanted to make it a Masonry.

You find it odd abr never doubtcasted PV despite his insistence on scum in Tevinter?

[Motoko and Scully]

So from what i gather.
From Titus PoV we may have a clear or a guilty based off the fact if the NK was roleblocked or protected (or ambiguous if JK), which is information that'd be useful to have if it exists.
There's the possibility of scum forfeiting a kill, which i strongly disagree as to why would that even happen.
There's the possibility of both RR and PV being scum and RR lying about it to protect PV.
There's the possibility of scum hitting BP somewhere.

That's not a gazillion possibilities, but those are the possibilities i see, and it should only be clear if it's the first.
Now if ABR was JK/RB considering i got a guilty there, there's... not much else new, and i'd disagree on outing that result due to the sheer fact that ABR already has a guilty on him anyway.

P-Edit: Oh yeah there's also the possibility of Shiro lying, but that'll be known with ABR flip anyway.

Even in the jk/rb, we get a conftown.

[Motoko and Scully]

Well not quite conftown but highly likely town.

[Motoko and Scully]

Well Titus is known for Moon Logic, she's not exactly wrong, but i dont agree with everything she's saying.
There's also the fact that ABR wanted to scare off scans off him AND Titus, maybe it's plausible he was doing it to save titus if i scanned him idk, but with the ammount of info we have right now im more likely to think Titus is town just off the fact that ABR was pushing very hard scum existance in Tevinter when i wanted to make it a Masonry.

Um it's not likely to think Titus is town at all considering that ABR didn't even remotely push Titus, he pushed other people in Tevinter - and it implies very strongly if we lynch other scum in Tevinter that the remaining would be Town.

It's literally the PERFECT bus strategy for Titus + ABR to play, since it plays perfectly off of her 'moon logic', ABR's 'bullying' and their mutual dislike of each other - and they can get away with a whole heap of scummy shit. Or if they don't that kind of bussing basically hard clears them in the eyes of people for the reasons you said.

Titus needs checking, it's not even a question. Titus + ABR basically played the optimal scum strategy because pretty much no one will ever suspect them as a pair. This is a gambit, and neither of them are above gambits. ABR isn't, in Titus' own words he lies often as town.

If you dare think that I would condone the sheer vitriol ABR threw at me as his scum partner, go read the cyberpunk pt. K thx. I don't view personal attacks as ethical. Period. You're the one trying to fit me as scum when I am just not because you cannot believe ABR was wrong and I was the first to suspect him.

[Motoko and Scully]

@DGB there's a guilty on ABR btw.

Yes I get that now, I'll vote him.

VOTE: ABR

He's been silent since the guilty result has been outed?

He's been vla.

Story of the game, Tevinter is likely a masonry unless PV and RR scum.
ABR and rb tried to personally attack us since midway through day 1.
ABR has tried to wagon most of Tevinter but for me and PV.
ABR was wagoned by my suggestion D1 but I chickened out.

There were three counters at EoD yesterday, your slot (Masq), Feelmi (town), and RR(pushed by ABR and RB for sheeping us).

We have an unexplained no kill.
Beeboy is going to be warden for Antiva.
No current warden has explained the no kill and explained why. Explaining that nets us conftown.
We have a doctor or watcher on Luna.

[Motoko and Scully]

@rb, have you ever played mason before?

[Motoko and Scully]

Like I am strongly inclined to believe your mason claim, just need to go through the motions.

[Motoko and Scully]

Why did you pick rb as warden over masq?

[Motoko and Scully]

How would you expect him to answer that question, if he is scum-aligned and just hammered... This is giving me bad feelings...

Worth a shot. Worst he says is fuck you. Best he spews.

[Motoko and Scully]

Ira you need to underatand that M&S is not town and that they've put themselves in a position that's almost sealing the game if they're scum. Their alignment NEEDS to be verified asap.

I'll pick who I want. It'll be in my Last Will who I picked in case I die.

Hostile take overs of the moon are generally not done by townies

[Motoko and Scully]

Hey where's Dwlee tbb

[Motoko and Scully]

I meant the day phase, he was posting elsewhere

[Motoko and Scully]

@Beeboy, Nah. Rb dying actually is evidence of a scum redirector OR you scum. I would 100% be voting Shiro today if we knew if scum could not elect their own warden.

If scum could not elect their own warden separate from nations, then one of Luna/random/Shiro must be scum. Random claiming to dispel an inaccurate townread was rather townie. That leaves Luna v Shiro. The optimal move if Rb had not died was rb bodyguard Luna; Lynch Shiro.

Why did you lie about being masons?

VOTE: Shiro

As for the N1 lack of kill, I discussed it yesterday and reached the conclusion ABR was the warden and lied.

[Motoko and Scully]

I was going to drive a lynch on Shiro. But like I said#regretlifechoices

Well then lynch me today
And after i flip town, lynch Shiro tomorrow.

I have reason to believe Random's claim will solve all my life problems

Random claimed your role.

[Motoko and Scully]

So basically Luna was redirected, Orlais was lying their asses off to get their way, Antiva likely redirected Luna.

[Motoko and Scully]

IF ABR COMMUTED LUNA COULD NOT COP HER.

Titus and Luna are scum.

Luna was redirected. There's proven redirection.

[Motoko and Scully]

But well I was already expecting this.
Titus just vote me, it's clear they wont lynch Shiro until I flip town, I already told you I expected this coming throughout the night.

Not lynching a double acting cop. I would take the lynch myself first.

[Motoko and Scully]

Motoko what happened with your "guilty" on Abr?

I never copped ABR. I answered this once already.

[Motoko and Scully]

Where? I just checked your ISO.

Luna's the cop.

[Motoko and Scully]

Did anyone ask the mod if that is the case?

@MOD Do the darkspawn count as a nation for the purpuse of warden picking ?

Mod refused to answer mine.

[Motoko and Scully]

Someone from Orlais needs to confirm who there warden was n1

rb said it was him

Rb also flipped mason and ABR flipped cop too right?

Did ABR declare RB was warden before nightfall?

[Motoko and Scully]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

If that is the case though and we can assume that darkspawn do pick(cause tbh, to my experience so far, refusal to answer is a yes that cannot be stated )then I think I got the answer to this puzzle

Go on...

[Motoko and Scully]

RR is also a redirector.

I am a battlemage and so is he

The battlemage flipped commuter :/

[Motoko and Scully]

but that leaves a gap for the nk

Abr and rb lied

[Motoko and Scully]

but that leaves a gap for the nk

Abr and rb lied

ABR sure I could see that but why nobody else is coming clean now about it?

Because ABR and rb fooled them.

[Motoko and Scully]

RR is also a redirector.

I am a battlemage and so is he

The battlemage flipped commuter :/

ABR was a blood mage, not a battle mage

^

P.edit

She is a spirit mage

How did

you

know that?

[Motoko and Scully]

I didn't think I claimed flavor. Derp.

[Motoko and Scully]

VOTE: Titus

Read rb's last will if you want my reasoning.

Oh, and by the way, @town if you need someone's night action stopped, elect me as warden.

yume: "I'm going to be active this game"

yeah okay

Luna

, are you a Templar?

why the fuck would you say this

I don't want to turn this into luna vs. shiro today

VOTE: PV
^^lynch this^^

Why don't you want Shiro lynched?

If you don't, you should case PV.

[Motoko and Scully]

@Mod:

If A used a cop action on B, Z busdrove B and C, and B commuted, what result would a cop receive?
I think that a busdriver wouldn't be able to busdrive a commuted player.
~Dwlee

We're looking at witch not bus.

A targets B but C overrides telling A to target D.

[Motoko and Scully]

@Dwlee,

Redirector does not act as bus but witch.

[Motoko and Scully]

Someone in Orlais needs to confirm ABR was warden because I have trouble seeing him not claim that day 2.

^ This as well, he only came to self hammer which makes no sense if Titu's theory was right

ABR us a self centered ass.

He figured rather than figuring it out as a group, we hammer and thus do what e wants from the grave.

There is no rationale with ABR. Just control seeking. RB played the same way.

[Motoko and Scully]

I dropped the WIFOM bomb since i wanted to get a scan off, but people seemed to have preferred to give me Warden while we were deciding and i was already resigned to not being warden N1.

Oooook, you do realise then that for me to be scum and you town, tevinter needs to have enough scum in order to elect you warden(since you didnt want to) and antiva to have enough scum to elect me warden, in order for you to check abr and me to redirect you to a buddy right?

Or just one scum who saw the sentiment of town or scum that saw through wifom or scum who only had a redirector open.

[Motoko and Scully]

I dropped the WIFOM bomb since i wanted to get a scan off, but people seemed to have preferred to give me Warden while we were deciding and i was already resigned to not being warden N1.

Oooook, you do realise then that for me to be scum and you town, tevinter needs to have enough scum in order to elect you warden(since you didnt want to) and antiva to have enough scum to elect me warden, in order for you to check abr and me to redirect you to a buddy right?

Yes, which is why i said that Tevinter def. has scum in it. My Plan did work in the end ^_^

I find it funny how me and ABR got shit for coming to this conclusion day 1

It's still wrong.

[Motoko and Scully]

It was. Rb was lying and manipulating town since go. He just happened to flip town. Town lying to town shouldn't be surprised when they are scumread. I count no less than 4 lies between the two of them to make the night actions work.

1)RB lied about being mason.
2)ABR lied about being cop.
3) ABR lied about being kingmaker as he has to be warden for night actions to resolve.
4) RB lied about being warden as he had to appoint ABR.

At some point, the lies are so anti-town they were justifiably scumread.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus convince me that you, Dunnstral, PV and Nero are all town in your next post because I see no reason to town read any of them.

Of course "mason".

Nero is town for Masq push.
Dunn is gunslingers.
PV is not lurking through this shitstorm.

[Motoko and Scully]

Although then again why is the claimed doc and watcher alive? why is rb dead instead? if there's scum in Tevinter?

There isn't.

There's not a chance of anyone healing rb.
Guaranteed kill.

[Motoko and Scully]

Like I don't know how Titus can think tevintar is all town when the kills she believes are occurring heavily points to scum not being ok with people attacking Tevintar. This feels like scum Titus defending buddies more then a town thought process

Again, the kills indicate that scum are just night killing the assholes. We are forcing that play. Scum want to lynch in Tevinter.

By killing ABR and rb, scum can try to force it.

Or they murdered for a peaceful game.

Or they murdered someone they thought was a mason.

Or Beeboy would be busted as a liar.

Plenty there.

You are just pissed since pregame and its annoying.

[Motoko and Scully]

@Shiro,

You got a better reason for the nk going missing? Or are you just throwing mud since Random is obvious town?

[Motoko and Scully]

@Shiro,

You got a better reason for the nk going missing? Or are you just throwing mud since Random is obvious town?

a no kill (which makes no sense)

Or

I redirected the kill to a bp(which makes no sense as well because RR is a battlemage making him also a redirector unless as I said, darkspawn have extra goodies)

Yeah, so you redirecting the kill makes no sense.
A no kill makes no sense.
The most plausible action is that known liars (ABR isn't a cop and RB had an agreement with Beeboy to lie about being masons) lied.

[Motoko and Scully]

Random is obvious town?

How is random obvious town exactly because he was motivaotr and well ehehe nobody is fucking motivated here

With the lack of an NK and random having the opportunity to conftown himself, he didn't take it.

[Motoko and Scully]

But how do you supposed they made that agreement there were no indications ingame

The same way RB and Beeboy did their masons thing.

One just claimed it and the other went along.

[Motoko and Scully]

Can someone in that public faction claim doc I have an important plan that involves trying to solve this mess mechanically

Yeah no, if scum knew the doctors, they'd be nightkilling them. So nope.

Doctors do help solve this mechanically but you're not getting that information.

[Motoko and Scully]

First and foremost we need PV and random to flavour claim to check for contradictions


Do we even have a doc ?

You're cute.

We aren't flavorclaiming. Scum have fake claims. If flavor matches role like you suggest, that just tells scum everyone's role and doesn't tell town.

[Motoko and Scully]

We get Vedith to track Luna
Protective tto protect Vedith
Luna can't submit 2 kills and we can confirm she isn't getting redirected

The protectives are also in Tevinter.

[Motoko and Scully]

Vedith should track Luna. Not a bad idea there though.

Then we just hope for another protective in another grouping.

[Motoko and Scully]

We get Vedith to track Luna
Protective tto protect Vedith
Luna can't submit 2 kills and we can confirm she isn't getting redirected

This plan wont work.

I don't want you to enter the night phase without a plan to keep you in check

Then you should be seeking a watcher on Luna.

Both the watcher and Luna cannot be redirected.

Shiro isn't warden because we lynch Shiro.

[Motoko and Scully]

First and foremost we need PV and random to flavour claim to check for contradictions


Do we even have a doc ?

You're cute.

We aren't flavorclaiming. Scum have fake claims. If flavor matches role like you suggest, that just tells scum everyone's role and doesn't tell town.

How do you know scum have fakeclaims ? For all we know everyone uses the same wording, and they might have already fucked up in the case of random or PV

I'm presuming a game that can't be broken by massclaim. Thus scum have fakes.

[Motoko and Scully]

{Titus, random,Dunnstral}
2+ scum in here

There's 0 scum in there.

[Motoko and Scully]

but what if Luna is just scum....

We force her to give two results.

We verify no redirector.

[Motoko and Scully]

{Titus, random,Dunnstral}
2+ scum in here

There's 0 scum in there.

o3o not feeling it

And I'm not feeling you're a mason either.

Seriously, you want to help town. Stop lying. Stop trying to force your conclusion.

Just case people, not mystical scum in Tevinter.

[Motoko and Scully]

No Luna.

We are absolutely going to fix this. The frame job was shit as it didn't even suggest scum in Tevinter and pointed a big finger at scum in Shiro/Random because they are flailing to turn Tevinter against itself.

We are absolutely pulling this masonry over the finish line.

[Motoko and Scully]

No Luna.

We are absolutely going to fix this. The frame job was shit as it didn't even suggest scum in Tevinter and pointed a big finger at scum in Shiro/Random because they are flailing to turn Tevinter against itself.

We are absolutely pulling this masonry over the finish line.

I had no reason to bloody claim redirector if scum Titus, I could have claimed anything other than what frames me the very fucking next day

WiFOM.

[Motoko and Scully]

PV I think that's a bit of a stretch
If *people* would stop lying about their roles then maybe we wouldn't be having these problems, hmm?

Agreed.

Like, I just can't trust beeboy in this game and I don't think I'll get to townreading him for awhile because he cannot accept that town lying without good cause is bad. His claim didn't come with cause at all.

I'll have more to say on this in a day or two.

[Motoko and Scully]

Day 3

"They ... came ...

The curse is upon us...

Orlais is fallen ...

If you hear me ... If you can hear my voice brother ...

Be ready ...

as their coming for you too

rb ;

Berserker Warrior

Joined with

Thedas

died last night.

Spoiler: rb

Welcome, you are a

Berserker Warrior

,

aligned with

Thedas

Abilities:

Vote:

You can vote for whoever you want lynched during the day

Warden Abilities:

Berserker:

You can protect a player from death at night and take their place if they do die.

Calling:

You can only use your powers two nights total in the game.

Win Condition:

You win when the darkspawn threat is gone.

Spoiler: Last Will

- Just lynch all of Tevinter. There's like 3 fucking scum in there.
- Kill Titus. Or check her first and then you'll realise you need to kill her anyway. Whatever.
- Dunn is probably scum
- Radical Rat is scum
- Beeboy and I aren't actually Masons. But I'm still 85% sure that this was Town Beeboy simply recognizing I was town and trying to move along the gamestate.
- Trust me that Titus is scum
- Luna's possibly redirected, but she needs to be lynched to be sure. She might just be insane, but not really a reliable way to verify that
- Did I mention Titus is scum? Titus is scum btw.
- Oh and don't forget to purge all of Tevinter because they're majority scum.
- If your name is Titus read this spoiler:

Sorry for the personal insults and not keeping it game related. My interactiosn with you were just absurdly frustrating. Doesn't mean I should be abusive though. My apologies and if you don't want to accept and prefer to dislike me that's okay too. You still need to get lynched though

Orlais won't have any Kingmakers or Wardens from now on.

Shouldn't Orlais have 3 players and thus have a Kingmaker and a warden?

[Motoko and Scully]

@Shiro,

rb needed to die for his conduct if there wasn't a guilty.

Scum nightkilled him to give credibility to his theory. Scum don't nightkill their mislynches.

[Motoko and Scully]

PV I think that's a bit of a stretch
If *people* would stop lying about their roles then maybe we wouldn't be having these problems, hmm?

Agreed.

Like, I just can't trust beeboy in this game and I don't think I'll get to townreading him for awhile because he cannot accept that town lying without good cause is bad. His claim didn't come with cause at all.

I'll have more to say on this in a day or two.

I can confirm he did double me up tho, and no, dont ask me to paraphrase.

Paraphrase No.

Bonus if you work in Meghan Trainor.

[Motoko and Scully]

PV I think that's a bit of a stretch
If *people* would stop lying about their roles then maybe we wouldn't be having these problems, hmm?

Agreed.

Like, I just can't trust beeboy in this game and I don't think I'll get to townreading him for awhile because he cannot accept that town lying without good cause is bad. His claim didn't come with cause at all.

I'll have more to say on this in a day or two.

I thought I would get night killed and clear him as town. I also wanted to stop the 1v1 between the 2 of you. Keeping town away from rope is more then reason then good enough to justify claiming mason.

When that town is 1000% pro scum and driving town from the game it isn't.

Scum want drama.

Town don't.

[Motoko and Scully]

Shouldn't Orlais have 3 players and thus have a Kingmaker and a warden?

What?! No , they are 2

I had something backwards sorry.

[Motoko and Scully]

Scum want drama.

Town don't.

And wasnt beeboy trying to prevent that drama from continuing anyway? ^_^;;

By fakeclaiming to keep one half of the personal drama alive

and to conveniently pursue a garbage theory.

[Motoko and Scully]

@Shiro,

rb needed to die for his conduct if there wasn't a guilty.



Scum nightkilled him to give credibility to his theory. Scum don't nightkill their mislynches.

Scum didn't kill him out of pure kindness sorry

Which is why I'm inclined to think you're scum.

They debated it in a Varsoon game when Cerb was off his rocker.

[Motoko and Scully]

PV I think that's a bit of a stretch
If *people* would stop lying about their roles then maybe we wouldn't be having these problems, hmm?

Agreed.

Like, I just can't trust beeboy in this game and I don't think I'll get to townreading him for awhile because he cannot accept that town lying without good cause is bad. His claim didn't come with cause at all.

I'll have more to say on this in a day or two.

I thought I would get night killed and clear him as town. I also wanted to stop the 1v1 between the 2 of you. Keeping town away from rope is more then reason then good enough to justify claiming mason.

When that town is 1000% pro scum and driving town from the game it isn't.

Scum want drama.

Town don't.

Then why would they nightkill him instead of leaving him alive as mislynch bait? As someone who was kept alive in multiple games because scum needed ML bait, why would they NK him and not try to mislynch him?

By killing him, scum can argue Tevinter isn't a masonry.

[Motoko and Scully]

Can someone give me the order of these events?

Luna claiming cop
Discovering that there is a bus driver (did I get that right?)
Luna claiming a false guilty on ABR

:Luna claims cop
Luna claims guilty
Discovery there is a redirector

not a bus driver

ABR flips town

[Motoko and Scully]

Nah PV is town FB
P-edit: why can't it be a bus driver?

ABR commuted and was the actual N1 warden

[Motoko and Scully]

Can someone give me the order of these events?

Luna claiming cop
Discovering that there is a bus driver (did I get that right?)
Luna claiming a false guilty on ABR

There was no discovering

I claimed redirector before the guilty was even s thing because we were missing a kill amd I thought I might have redirected scum to their buddy who was BP.

P.edit

You got the order wrong Titus. I claimed before the guilty.

You didn't. Luna put it in the hood before you claimed your role.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus if I was trying to ML you (or anyone) RB and ABR are the worst night kill choices to achieve that.

Absolutely disagree but I am thinking you're a suboptimal lynch choice.

Lynching between Random/Shiro is the better option.

[Motoko and Scully]

shiro you are a charmer you were obvscum but for some reason people just wouldn't lynch you ~Anti

I'm going to go watch paint dry now.

[Motoko and Scully]

I am town.

[Motoko and Scully]

@Shiro

@Beeboy

Why haven't you typed I am town?

[Motoko and Scully]

@Shiro,

rb needed to die for his conduct if there wasn't a guilty.

Scum nightkilled him to give credibility to his theory. Scum don't nightkill their mislynches.

There was no reason to think rb was scum.

The lies and bullshit and personal insults aren't it?

Yeah, ok I'm going back to paint dry.

Feel free to lie detect Shiro and Beeboy.

[Motoko and Scully]

That's not hard when Luna comes out and half of Tevinter immediately votes ABR.

[Motoko and Scully]

@Beeboy,

Why won't you type I am town?

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus was completely paranoid of the existence of scum in Tevinter day 1 during Tevinter chat because it looked like scum knew what we were talking about in there.

P-Edit: he did

RB flipping town makes that impossible though as all those theories centered on RB scum.

[Motoko and Scully]

Nah PV is town FB
P-edit: why can't it be a bus driver?

ABR commuted and was the actual N1 warden

ABR commuted, avoiding the sucm kill, while scum directied the cop onto scum so that Luna would get a scum result on the (allegedly) dead town guy?

your not making much sense.

This objection makes no sense. We lynched ABR.

[Motoko and Scully]

I still dont get what is going on, where did Titus claim Shiro knew i was a cop before i claimed D1 >.<

Huh?

[Motoko and Scully]

Luna you got ABR lynched now it is my turn to lynch peeps

Not how it works.

We lynch based on facts and evidence, not because of tantrums.

[Motoko and Scully]

Btw, there's now strong evidence but not overwhelming evidence that DGB and Shaddowez are town.

[Motoko and Scully]

Nah PV is town FB
P-edit: why can't it be a bus driver?

ABR commuted and was the actual N1 warden

ABR commuted, avoiding the sucm kill, while scum directied the cop onto scum so that Luna would get a scum result on the (allegedly) dead town guy?

your not making much sense.

This objection makes no sense. We lynched ABR.

You stated that ABR commuted. Why do you think that?

There is no other logical explanation for the lack of an NK n1.

[Motoko and Scully]

She also said scum tried to kill Abr while at the same time setting up a guilty on him by Luna (who if Abr was killed woukd have made her claim so)

Scum had no idea who Luna was checking.

[Motoko and Scully]

She also said scum tried to kill Abr while at the same time setting up a guilty on him by Luna (who if Abr was killed woukd have made her claim so)

Scum had no idea who Luna was checking.

It would have been pretty obvious.

No it wasn't.

Luna didn't make their choice until nightfall.

[Motoko and Scully]

If ABR did commute, then that clears Luna as town no matter what.

How so?

[Motoko and Scully]

If Shiro isn't warden and therefore not an issue until tomorrow I fail to see your problem here

And are you sure he wont be warden?
Do you plan on lynching Shiro if he becomes warden again?

My nation already agreed to vote someone else for warden so yes

Ok fine.
Dont make me regret this

Vote: Motoko

You will.

Tevinter is a masonry.

Beeboy is picking one reason and dismissing the multitudes of other reasons scum had to kill rb.

Scum want to discredit the Tevinter masonry so they lynch me, then just say Titus was dumb/scummy. Tevinter turns on itself.

You will regret that vote.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus I will self vote right now is the town agrees to lynch in the following order until 1 player flips town.
(Titus > whoever my plan says is scum > Dunnstral)

Nope.

I want to lynch the scum in the wardens.

You might just be town throwing a tantrum like RB was. I can't tell because the three of you seem to think lies are ok and scumread the people who detect your lies.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus I will self vote right now is the town agrees to lynch in the following order until 1 player flips town.
(Titus > whoever my plan says is scum > Dunnstral)

Like, when I flip town, you better NEVER lynch another Tevinter without a certain guilty.

That's what scum need with the amount of obvtown is Tevinter lynches.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus I will self vote right now is the town agrees to lynch in the following order until 1 player flips town.
(Titus > whoever my plan says is scum > Dunnstral)

Nope.

I want to lynch the scum in the wardens.

You might just be town throwing a tantrum like RB was. I can't tell because the three of you seem to think lies are ok and scumread the people who detect your lies.

I mean I am scum reading you because to prepare for my town flip you said scum killed ABR and RB out of kindness to keep the game less toxic.
you are also arguing Tevinter is all town but scum are killing the primary candidates pushing it.

I have good reasons to scum read you.

That was one of like 5 reasons. Shiro also felt sorry for me in Space Dandy where Cerberus and Drixx basically went off the fucking deep end.

Killing RB removes a mason pair if town if they expected you to prove it.
Killing RB proves you right if you are scum.
Killing RB suggests to just lynch Tevinter because it was their tantrum.

It's like 5 reasons.

They are killing the candidates pushing for scum in Tevinter because there are just too many obvtown so they need town to eat itself.

Tevinter is all town.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus, who did you act on N2?

Will answer in hood.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus you are arguing in a game with too many towns I would kill my own town block wtf

Yes because then you get cred to look right and lynch in the Tevinter town block.

Your play might as well scream I'll say anything to lynch in Tevinter.

[Motoko and Scully]

If she believes im town, then it's obvious scum plan was to frame me, so scum wouldn't NK me when they can ML me, why the heck would you doctor protect me.

To stop two cop checks.

Like doctor sucks this early. You don't doc to stop a kill. You doc to ensure good things happen.

[Motoko and Scully]

After hearing Titus action im more down to lynching her.

You changed your tune quickly...

Her action doesnt make sense to me.

Right because you just can't figure anything out right now because you're listening to liars than logic.

Playing doctor is about ensuring good things this early.

There was about 0 chance of guessing right.

Best play was to say not healing you

and then to heal you.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus why are you assuming I would motivate Luna? I came very close to not doing that many times because I thought she was scum.

To verify your claim.

Like I don't KNOW that you're scum. I don't.

I know you might as well be given the lies and bullshit. Do I know your PM is red? No.

Do I know that I'm tired of being the only one who solves shit and gets criticized only to have everyone absorb my ideas and want to lynch me?

That's fucking stupid.

[Motoko and Scully]

Vedith please don't defend scum after I called for you to become the warden :/

Look, I'm all about positioning than anything else.

[Motoko and Scully]

Her action

doesnt

make sense to me.

And does that suggest town Titus or scum Titus? Lets be real now.

Probably scum.
She was passing it off by using the same type of plan i had (i.e. WIFOM that i wouldnt be healed while actually healing me), while that wont work because scum had 0 chance of NK me if they were framing me, so i wasnt going to die if i scum, and i wasnt going to die if im town.

Luna has never seen me in a finished game. She's officially unaware that playing scum is all about building a narrative to me.

[Motoko and Scully]

Vedith please don't defend scum after I called for you to become the warden :/

It's more a concern on how Luna swapped so easy rather than defending Titus.

No. Luna is town.

I'd bet my game life on it.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus why are you assuming I would motivate Luna? I came very close to not doing that many times because I thought she was scum.

To verify your claim.

Like I don't KNOW that you're scum. I don't.

I know you might as well be given the lies and bullshit. Do I know your PM is red? No.

Do I know that I'm tired of being the only one who solves shit and gets criticized only to have everyone absorb my ideas and want to lynch me?

That's fucking stupid.

I said my reasoning for scum reading you and you saying scum killed ABR to lower toxicity is true and fake and bad. You saying as scum I would kill my town block and the people pushing you to give me leverage to lynch you is also bad and scummy.
So is you prepare for my town flip despite scum reading me all game.

All of those are true statements

Like that's not why I said they killed ABR. I said that's A factor in why they killed RB.

Scum are killing to sell an idea there's scum in Tevinter.

[Motoko and Scully]

@Beeboy, I do think you're scum. I also know you're proscum. I don't know that you are scum.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus you are writing narratives and preparing for my town flip right now

No I'm not. You're not protown. You're selling a narrative against the truth. Tevinter is 100% fucking town.

[Motoko and Scully]

I should just go back to "not thinking"

Good sheep me. I'll get scum guaranteed in 2 days.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus why are you assuming I would motivate Luna? I came very close to not doing that many times because I thought she was scum.

To verify your claim.

Like I don't KNOW that you're scum. I don't.

I know you might as well be given the lies and bullshit. Do I know your PM is red? No.

Do I know that I'm tired of being the only one who solves shit and gets criticized only to have everyone absorb my ideas and want to lynch me?

That's fucking stupid.

I said my reasoning for scum reading you and you saying scum killed ABR to lower toxicity is true and fake and bad. You saying as scum I would kill my town block and the people pushing you to give me leverage to lynch you is also bad and scummy.
So is you prepare for my town flip despite scum reading me all game.

All of those are true statements

Like that's not why I said they killed ABR. I said that's A factor in why they killed RB.

Scum are killing to sell an idea there's scum in Tevinter.

I'd argue other kills do the same job without killing incredibly loud players pushing inside Tevintar

They don't.

[Motoko and Scully]

I should just go back to "not thinking"

Good sheep me. I'll get scum guaranteed in 2 days.

I'm sheeping beeboy, no one will believe a word i say until i flip town, ill leave all my thinking in my last will instead.

Oh this fucking apathy again. Stop throwing yourself a pity party.

You're better than this.

[Motoko and Scully]

Lynching 3 scum is worth my lynch especially if no one wants to vote you normally

Foxbeebear is town

I'd bet my life on Luna being town. In fact, I'd bet that way about all of Tevinter.

[Motoko and Scully]

Lynching 3 scum is worth my lynch especially if no one wants to vote you normally

Foxbeebear is town

I'd bet my life on Luna being town. In fact, I'd bet that way about all of Tevinter.

I know I'm town. I'm thinking that DGB is town, although I'm hesitant to believe that scum would allow a hood to fill up without any scum in it. With your assumption, all of the scum are in Antiva/Ferelden? Do you honestly believe that?

If you and DGB are town yes. They had zero say in Tevinter. So they throw a fit. ABR throws a fit because he wasn't in control. Same with RB.

This has perpetually been just a whine fest from them.

[Motoko and Scully]

Late to the party.

I'm not voting for any plan that involves a Tevinter being lynched when the optimal plan is to lynch between Shiro and Random.

[Motoko and Scully]

People pushing me definitely contains scum or incompetent because if they actually read my posts it would be fucking onvious who I motivated

Fucking obvious is beyond half of this group at this point.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus I will self vote right now is the town agrees to lynch in the following order until 1 player flips town.
(Titus > whoever my plan says is scum > Dunnstral)

Nope.

I want to lynch the scum in the wardens.

You might just be town throwing a tantrum like RB was. I can't tell because the three of you seem to think lies are ok and scumread the people who detect your lies.

I mean I am scum reading you because to prepare for my town flip you said scum killed ABR and RB out of kindness to keep the game less toxic.
you are also arguing Tevinter is all town but scum are killing the primary candidates pushing it.

I have good reasons to scum read you.

That was one of like 5 reasons. Shiro also felt sorry for me in Space Dandy where Cerberus and Drixx basically went off the fucking deep end.

Killing RB removes a mason pair if town if they expected you to prove it.
Killing RB proves you right if you are scum.
Killing RB suggests to just lynch Tevinter because it was their tantrum.

It's like 5 reasons.

They are killing the candidates pushing for scum in Tevinter because there are just too many obvtown so they need town to eat itself.

Tevinter is all town.

By going off the deep end you mean you refusing to work with them unless they pledged fealty and endless servitude to them?

This is just slander and ridiculous.

I'm willing to listen and work with others. I'm not willing to lynch my townreads, nor would I expect that of anyone else.

[Motoko and Scully]

So we're at Shiro scum or RR scum based on mod theory.

Dunn believes he saw scum can elect own warden.
IRA is voting RR .

Nero wants RR.

ABR was voting RR.

Cakey wants RR.

FC wants RR.

Time to work with others.

VOTE: RR

[Motoko and Scully]

Yup. (I'm the Scully head.)

~Titus

[Motoko and Scully]

I said it was time to listen to my townreads, rather than beating my head against a wall.

[Motoko and Scully]

Also the fact that i even got redirected means that there's scum in Tevinter.

Right, which Titus is devoutly stating is impossible

The redirect means scum could not bypass doc watcher.

Tevinter is 100% town.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus thinks scum is actively killing people in Tevinter while also saying tevinter is all town and chainsawing those who scum read Tevinter

Scum want to break up the Tevinter masonry.

[Motoko and Scully]

@Luna,

Scum didn't want a cop result no matter what. They guessed since the could not pierce the wifom.

I am not voting a Tevinter without more than your nebulous paranoia.

[Motoko and Scully]

Makes a hell of a lot more sense than scum shooting the guy you were checking.

Scum if they were trying to frame you wouldn't shoot ABR.

[Motoko and Scully]

*Tevinter scum in context

[Motoko and Scully]

You announced you were checking ABR in hood.
Scum redirect you so you get a guilty...
And shoot the guy you're checking so you usually wouldn't look bad?

Nope.

ABR shot clears Tevinter.

[Motoko and Scully]

But i never said who i was checking in Tevinter did i.

You did

[Motoko and Scully]

You pretty much did. I quoted the posts in hood.

[Motoko and Scully]

If scum wanted frame you based on hood talk, they just elect the NK and Luna has no result.

[Motoko and Scully]

they just elect the NK and Luna has no result.

Wait what?

If scum NK ABR, Luna gets a result on a dead guy, someone conftown by heal, or no result BC commute.

Like no reason to redirect and NK ABR.

[Motoko and Scully]

If scum try to kill the guy you're checking, you have no result and look bad.

Why disclose a redirect?

[Motoko and Scully]

@RR, Yeah. If ABR wasn't the kill, explain the no kill.

There's no action left but for Shiro's if ABR wasn't the kill.

That means you were bp and wardened. Thus scum.

[Motoko and Scully]

ABR was the scumkill. ABR and RB lied. It is the only solution anyone is given.

Killing ABR doesn't make sense with redirecting Luna unless they had no clue.

Town Tevinter.

[Motoko and Scully]

@RR, Yeah. If ABR wasn't the kill, explain the no kill.

There's no action left but for Shiro's if ABR wasn't the kill.

That means you were bp and wardened. Thus scum.

Scum just didn't kill. Probably exactly so you

would

start doubting the claims.

Scum no killed when there were 2 outed cops, an outed protective

Furthermore if scum no killed to create doubt in claims, that's an all town Tevinter.

[Motoko and Scully]

No. Redirecting Luna to scum just makes it a high likelihood of free mislynches. They would save the redirect for a day when they needed it.

If they knew ABR was getting checked, they just NK him.

No need for redirect as that just tells town things.

I'm not buying scum no killed with this many PR hints.

[Motoko and Scully]

1) ABR lied and rb made him warden
2) Scum shot ABR to mislynch Luna
3) Scum, unaware that Luna was checking ABR, nk him.
4) Scum push Luna and attack Tevinter masonry idea.

Gg.

No other scenario takes in all facts.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus, I won't disagree that your theories make some sort of sense. The problem is, they're just that. Unless you're scum and

know

these scenarios took place, you can't be this confident in trying to push a lynch based on it.

I can know because every other scenario has absurdity throughout.

Just because I cracked the game faster doesn't make me scummy.

[Motoko and Scully]

There is another possibility that doesn't include rb at all, actually. It would require DGB or myself be scum.

Go on. I would like to see someone try and I did scumread Masq.

[Motoko and Scully]

Titus, I won't disagree that your theories make some sort of sense. The problem is, they're just that. Unless you're scum and

know

these scenarios took place, you can't be this confident in trying to push a lynch based on it.

I can know because every other scenario has absurdity throughout.

Just because I cracked the game faster doesn't make me scummy.

So does your conspiracy theory.

For it to be true, scum would have had to deliberately kill off their supporters, and trust their night action to basically a roll of the dice.
All of this in addition to the unrelated cover up going on in Orlais that everyone just... went with?


No matter what happened, something absurd did. And I think a No Kill aimed at discrediting the claims that were already sketchy at best makes the most sense.

Or you know, trust that we were going to cop, or that ABR also had a cop.

It's not hard to believe.

-hebi