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This is easily verifiable, which is why I ask.In post 16, BBmolla wrote:My role is very basic so I don't know the important of location/nation
I also realize the above is nation not location derp
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Why would it be good for someone to know you are a target for them? What makes you think Scum don't have an ability to do to/at you? You are aware there is some kind of cult in this game right?In post 21, BBmolla wrote:
*shrug*In post 20, Expedience wrote:
Why would you claim it then?In post 16, BBmolla wrote:My role is very basic so I don't know the important of location/nation
why not, the worst that happens is I die, best is that someone whose ability only works on my location/nation knows a for sure targetHydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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Dis be WIFOM.In post 26, BBmolla wrote:
then I guess I need to be lynched early o wellIn post 25, Wayward Thinker wrote:
Why would it be good for someone to know you are a target for them? What makes you think Scum don't have an ability to do to/at you? You are aware there is some kind of cult in this game right?In post 21, BBmolla wrote:
*shrug*In post 20, Expedience wrote:
Why would you claim it then?In post 16, BBmolla wrote:My role is very basic so I don't know the important of location/nation
why not, the worst that happens is I die, best is that someone whose ability only works on my location/nation knows a for sure target
I literally have no idea about anything but I like to play dangerousHydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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by you saying we should lynch you.In post 28, BBmolla wrote:howHydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking of.In post 32, BBmolla wrote:In post 3, mastin2 wrote:Each faction, if possessing a non-human race, has a one-shot ability to recruit a human to their faction. Emphasis "human". This ability will fail if more than one faction attempts this on the same target. This ability does not work on all humans. Regardless of success or failure, this ability is used up once activated. (The recruiter will be informed if they fail, but not the reason why.) In short, only the unluckiest of humans will get culled. It can happen, though, so be cautious!
As for you claiming Town, I have seen you do that as Scum and basically just repeat that over and over until people believe it, so its presumably Null.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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Why is this a Scum claim?In post 8, No Retreat wrote:thanks for scum claiming.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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You guys are going to give me a twitch reading the posts with percentages in them.
Salt(Bee), I think that this game is not quite as simple as town tells and not town tells because of the multiball angle. The rules seem to suggest that it is not so black and white.
i'm envious that so many of you can judge the Fire head of that hydra. I tend to be able to read frozen better because Frozen is straightforward in her thinking and drives what she believes in.
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Hi there Fire!
I will get get better at it. Sometimes when I enjoy who I am playing with, I have trouble scum reading them. I just need to be more logical less emotional some times.
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Mine is the same way?In post 314, BBmolla wrote:Quick question... my PM is in a quote, quoted by someone's name I don't recognize, is this just mine? And should I say the name to see if anyone else recognizes it?
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OK, so here is what I have for reads:
Town:
Dav - for being so proactive so early/pointing things out that he doesn't need to
No Retreat - Just seems like Town motive
Expedience - I don't think they do what they are doing as Scum
My one Scum read is:
Nosferatu - doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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~LQIn post 497, Wayward Thinker wrote:OK, so here is what I have for reads:
Town:
Dav - for being so proactive so early/pointing things out that he doesn't need to
No Retreat - Just seems like Town motive
Expedience - I don't think they do what they are doing as Scum
My one Scum read is:
Nosferatu - doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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There is a difference I am seeing though which I will attempt to explain.In post 498, RAM wrote:Don't see the difference between Nos and Dav, to be honest. In fact, I think the exact opposite. I like Nos' questions and think Dav is just looking to do stuff.
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Not sure how I feel about that. Pretty much every other game I have asked this you have been able to tell immediately. Even when you were Scum and you said I was Scum you made the decision pretty damn quick.In post 499, Titus wrote:@LQ, Not sure. Too early to tell. If you stay active, I should have an opinion within a few IRL days. This cold is slowing down my usual processes.
I don't have any meta on Nos at all, but here is the diff between Nos a dav (who I do have some meta on).In post 500, Titus wrote:Not a fan of the Nos scumread though. If anything Nos is more active than normal.
@RAM, Is Drixx ok?
I just see Nos as trying push things, which is unlike dav where it looks like he is just trying to keep as factual as possible. I like dave as Town here because I read his pointing out the truth of the matter as him trying to solve the game either directly or indirectly. Nos just seems like they are trying to push their opinion more which is what I am seeing as the difference.
Anyways, I have not gone over these reads with Suzune so they very well could change once I talk to here about them, which I will be doing, hopefully, shortly.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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OK so this is basically the post I was looking at considering the Scum read on Nos. I still get a Scummy vibe from it, but its not as bad as I originally thought looking through their ISO.In post 485, Nosferatu wrote:
I'm just wondering: you are aware thatIn post 461, Cane + Able wrote:In post 459, davesaz wrote:74 quoted 72 in which Frozen showed some emotion.
273 talks about emotion.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. I don't understand why it's a big deal...
Even 263 still fits in, if nothing changed in "the feels" in those ~190 posts since 74.
Now whether that little bit is worth a town read, is a completely different matter. I certainly wouldn't call someone town that easily... but I'm not liking the Cane+Able approach of casting it as a retroactive explanation.
Fucking... you too?
My entire POINT was that I thought she should have USED 74 IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE, you illiterate clown.youare the person who fucked up here, right?
@Titus: why are you still pushing your view that he lied when he admitted his mistake all the way back in 397?
You guys are both so weird.
I don't like Titus's 444. It seems intentionally antagonistic when it's plain to see the mistake house made in 442, not even mentioning the main argument, which he resolved on his part ages ago and reiterated several times. Seems like she's trying to lean on him to make him crack.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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I'm not sure I understand. In relation to what exactly?In post 505, Cane + Able wrote:Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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I am reconsidering my read on them as I kinda said.In post 515, Wake1 wrote:In post 513, Wayward Thinker wrote:
I'm not sure I understand. In relation to what exactly?In post 505, Cane + Able wrote:Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?With respect, you mentioned that Nosferatu doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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Unsure. I think it will be more telling with a few flips.In post 519, Cane + Able wrote:In post 518, Wayward Thinker wrote:
I am reconsidering my read on them as I kinda said.In post 515, Wake1 wrote:In post 513, Wayward Thinker wrote:
I'm not sure I understand. In relation to what exactly?In post 505, Cane + Able wrote:Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?With respect, you mentioned that Nosferatu doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.Does this mean you now think he's pointing out stuff that matters?Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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I primarily just care about getting reads at this point and am talking about them with Suz right now.In post 520, Cane + Able wrote:In post 520, Wayward Thinker wrote:
Unsure. I think it will be more telling with a few flips.In post 519, Cane + Able wrote:In post 518, Wayward Thinker wrote:
I am reconsidering my read on them as I kinda said.In post 515, Wake1 wrote:In post 513, Wayward Thinker wrote:
I'm not sure I understand. In relation to what exactly?In post 505, Cane + Able wrote:Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?With respect, you mentioned that Nosferatu doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.Does this mean you now think he's pointing out stuff that matters?What I'm wanting to understand is how he's supposed to be pointing out stuff that really matters when it's not even Day 1 yet.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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My point wasn't that they were pointing out things that don't matter, but that they were pushing things so early.In post 531, Cane + Able wrote:In post 524, Wayward Thinker wrote:
I primarily just care about getting reads at this point and am talking about them with Suz right now.In post 520, Cane + Able wrote:In post 520, Wayward Thinker wrote:
Unsure. I think it will be more telling with a few flips.In post 519, Cane + Able wrote:In post 518, Wayward Thinker wrote:
I am reconsidering my read on them as I kinda said.In post 515, Wake1 wrote:In post 513, Wayward Thinker wrote:
I'm not sure I understand. In relation to what exactly?In post 505, Cane + Able wrote:Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?With respect, you mentioned that Nosferatu doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.Does this mean you now think he's pointing out stuff that matters?What I'm wanting to understand is how he's supposed to be pointing out stuff that really matters when it's not even Day 1 yet.You made it sound like Nosferatu was only pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter, so I'm asking you for examples of things that really do matter.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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Something you should know about me: my reasons for my reads don't mean much, what matters are my reads. you played a game with me and saw my case on MonkeyMan in that StrangeCoug game so I expect you to relook at that if you have further doubts about my reasons.In post 579, Cephrir wrote:
Even though I agree with three of these reads prima facia, I don't like anything about how you're expressing them. They're wimpy.In post 492, Wayward Thinker wrote:OK, so here is what I have for reads:
Town:
Dav - for being so proactive so early/pointing things out that he doesn't need to
No Retreat - Just seems like Town motive
Expedience - I don't think they do what they are doing as Scum
My one Scum read is:
Nosferatu - doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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Naked vote. Explain please.
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We think we will go with a vote on rb for now.
VOTE: RB
This vote is placed for a twofold reason. The first is the constant on the percentages. Planning ahead and running the numbers pings me as scummy
The second is the general sheeping of opinions.
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p-edit, goodness gracious everyone is posting so fast.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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Why does everyone keep saying this? I don't even know what specifically moon logic is O.OIn post 617, Cephrir wrote:
i don't know if this is gonna work for me, but i do remember that you're a moonlogickerIn post 604, Wayward Thinker wrote:Something you should know about me: my reasons for my reads don't mean much, what matters are my reads. you played a game with me and saw my case on MonkeyMan in that StrangeCoug game so I expect you to relook at that if you have further doubts about my reasons.
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Not terrible. I have more meta on rb than everyone in this game combined.In post 635, Salt Squad wrote:
This is terrible, percentages aren't AIIn post 629, Wayward Thinker wrote:We think we will go with a vote on rb for now.
VOTE: RB
This vote is placed for a twofold reason. The first is the constant on the percentages. Planning ahead and running the numbers pings me as scummy
The second is the general sheeping of opinions.
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p-edit, goodness gracious everyone is posting so fast.
rb doing the silly percentages is not what I know of his play as either alignment so pressuring that slot is what we are aiming for. I don't have a ton of meta on him within a game context, but I do know it is unlike him to do this.
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If that is all moon logic is, then yes, I am actually a terrible offender of moon logic by many people.In post 646, Cephrir wrote:
you think in ways that just don't make sense to meIn post 637, Wayward Thinker wrote:
Why does everyone keep saying this? I don't even know what specifically moon logic is O.OIn post 617, Cephrir wrote:
i don't know if this is gonna work for me, but i do remember that you're a moonlogickerIn post 604, Wayward Thinker wrote:Something you should know about me: my reasons for my reads don't mean much, what matters are my reads. you played a game with me and saw my case on MonkeyMan in that StrangeCoug game so I expect you to relook at that if you have further doubts about my reasons.
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I never quite understood exactly what it was and still don't.In post 650, Titus wrote:
Meh is less than sucks. I do have reservations of what Heartless has posted. I also do think this is harder than Anti would try as scum, so that's my tiebreaker.In post 626, Cephrir wrote:
that's efforting? i dont have a strong read on them yet and i don't have a clue why you doIn post 615, Titus wrote:VOTE: Cane and Able
The Nos votes suck, their vote sucks. The heartless vote is rather meh. Anti's probably town though. I've been scum with him and I cannot seem him efforting this hard as scum.
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A change in behnviour not usually displayed can suggest a difference in pressure game wise. So it is worth looking at and seeing if there is anything there. Curious in the social dynamic so to speak.In post 654, Cephrir wrote:I direct you to JokeExplainWarthog's post 640.
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No, its not. I know rb from off site where I have been a member there since jan 2013. I introduced mafia to that site. rb played in two of the games I have hosted. Once as Town once as Scum.In post 664, Cane + Able wrote:
I agree, it IS a huge pile of crap.In post 660, Salt Squad wrote:
this post is all sorts ofIn post 651, Wayward Thinker wrote:
Not terrible. I have more meta on rb than everyone in this game combined.In post 635, Salt Squad wrote:
This is terrible, percentages aren't AIIn post 629, Wayward Thinker wrote:We think we will go with a vote on rb for now.
VOTE: RB
This vote is placed for a twofold reason. The first is the constant on the percentages. Planning ahead and running the numbers pings me as scummy
The second is the general sheeping of opinions.
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p-edit, goodness gracious everyone is posting so fast.
rb doing the silly percentages is not what I know of his play as either alignment so pressuring that slot is what we are aiming for. I don't have a ton of meta on him within a game context, but I do know it is unlike him to do this.
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Is it an exclusive club? cuz i feel I fit right in there with you guys.In post 676, Klingoncelt wrote:
@Wayward Thinker - Lickety, you've played with Titus and with me. You know how we think outside the box, but we do it kinda like we're trippin' balls on peyote while reading too many Agatha Christie novels? That's moonlogic.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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What's your reason for why I am Scum?In post 686, Klingoncelt wrote:
I'm not sheeping you.In post 679, Luna Fox wrote:I like the extras section of the vote count, wtg Mastin.
@Klingon: While i appreciate voting my scumread, can you comment on everything else?
That'smyScumread I'm voting.
I think Titus and the House heads are Town.
I think Lickety's Scum.
The game's too big with too many mechanics for me to comment on everything this freakin' early. Wednesday of next week is far more likely.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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I am not always like that as either alignment. I am prepared to link games.In post 700, Klingoncelt wrote:Town Lickety is cocky & goofy.
Scum Lickety is quieter and appease-y.
If by cocky and goofy do you mean me posting things like this:
cuz that's about the way I feel about you Scum reading me.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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Please post links where your meta reads have been "great."In post 719, Klingoncelt wrote:
My meta reads are great.In post 704, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
Ehhhhhhhhh.....this is probably true, but can we not do meta readsIn post 700, Klingoncelt wrote:Town Lickety is cocky & goofy.
Scum Lickety is quieter and appease-y.
A lot of people can't do meta reads.
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So you have 3 Town reads and 5 Scum reads? This is just weird all over.In post 727, Expedience wrote:Townreads: Cephrir, Nosferatu, BBmolla
Scumreads: Luna Fox, rb, Titus, davesaz, RAM
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OK, here you say we are Scum and say you have reasons but don't say what those reasons are.In post 234, Salt Squad wrote:Town
Cephir - Town posting and paranoia of town reads that are on him (classic mutliball town tell)
BBmolla - Scum doesn't randomly distribute potentially incriminating information in the first few posts of the game when they don't know if the will get town read.
Luna - Gut, I don't think Luna would be this active as scum because she isn't confident in herself as a player.
Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.
Tim - Has good reads so gut.
Scum
Wayward Thinkers - Random information fishing early on to try and look useful was pretty sketchy and I don't think anything that was asked will lead to anything.
Expedience - Has lots of big posts but hasn't left any sort of impact on me which gives me horrible gut feelings.
Wayward Thinkers right now since Expedience is just gut.
Who do you want to vote and do you have questions about my thoughts on other players?
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I won't say. rb can either confirm or deny, but if he denies I'm never taking my vote off of them.In post 652, Salt Squad wrote:
Last time he was like this he was town in soccer spiritsIn post 644, Cephrir wrote:
if he usually does it, why is it alignment indicative this time?In post 635, Salt Squad wrote:Except it's Nos who usually lurks his ass off
LQ where is your rb meta from?
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Seriously? Seriously? This has to be one of the worst analysis I have ever seen.In post 684, Salt Squad wrote:Probs to represent that all the votes are from scum aligned players.
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Well, I Have said you are Scum before for using AtE just like this. I'm starting to think I need to move my vote. Would do it in a heartbeat if I wasn't hydraing with Suz.In post 770, Klingoncelt wrote:
OR...In post 750, MathBlade wrote:
I am cutting Titus specifically slack as there are possibilities in which Expedience is just a sheeping scum. What I am more concerned with is why Titus was avoiding commentary on the main wagon, Song's now push on you for your House/C+A read, and why people aren't looking at connected dots to try to see further into the game than meta. There are more than 20 pages. If you don't have something more than "meta" or "gut" my bullshit detector is going off. This is why I want to see Titus's response to how when I vote expedience I am somehow confirming them as town.In post 729, Klingoncelt wrote:
I admit I'm cutting her some slack due to her illness. Plus you and IIn post 718, MathBlade wrote:
This is an empty statement. What do you think she is now given her likely connection to Expedience I outlined? (Or rather Expedience's possible connection to her?)In post 712, Klingoncelt wrote:
Titus is actually very good with VCA - if she's Town.In post 702, Cephrir wrote:
oh good i need to add to my wall of self-quotes about vca being shitIn post 694, Klingoncelt wrote:VCA
As Scum, her analysis is a load of wank.alwaysscumread her, so I'm cutting some slack there, too.
Anyway, an Expedience flip would tell us some things, no?
Just because you cut someone slack doesn't mean you don't ask questions and that you don't poke around and demonstrate crazy shit you see. It seems like right now those three have a hard on for a House/c+a scumread/lynch. If anything it means you do to see if you are crazy or not. And if I am crazy then someone will point out where it is crazy and not just "give Titus some slack".
It's after 2am my time, I've been running on 4 hours' sleep the past few nights, I'm in several other large themes, and this one JUST started.
I'm really not emotionally involved with it right now. By the middle of next week I should care more.
Damned unlikely that there will be a lynch before then.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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In post 783, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:Expedience, no. Bad Expedience.
That is a town titus post.
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1) yeah, and I have no idea why you think it was informations fishing. I was pretty straight forward for me wanting to know what BB was fromIn post 788, Salt Squad wrote:
part 1) Is a misrepresentation I explained my read in the post you quoted.In post 771, Wayward Thinker wrote:
OK, here you say we are Scum and say you have reasons but don't say what those reasons are.In post 234, Salt Squad wrote:Town
Cephir - Town posting and paranoia of town reads that are on him (classic mutliball town tell)
BBmolla - Scum doesn't randomly distribute potentially incriminating information in the first few posts of the game when they don't know if the will get town read.
Luna - Gut, I don't think Luna would be this active as scum because she isn't confident in herself as a player.
Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.
Tim - Has good reads so gut.
Scum
Wayward Thinkers - Random information fishing early on to try and look useful was pretty sketchy and I don't think anything that was asked will lead to anything.
Expedience - Has lots of big posts but hasn't left any sort of impact on me which gives me horrible gut feelings.
Wayward Thinkers right now since Expedience is just gut.
Who do you want to vote and do you have questions about my thoughts on other players?
~Bee
I won't say. rb can either confirm or deny, but if he denies I'm never taking my vote off of them.In post 652, Salt Squad wrote:
Last time he was like this he was town in soccer spiritsIn post 644, Cephrir wrote:
if he usually does it, why is it alignment indicative this time?In post 635, Salt Squad wrote:Except it's Nos who usually lurks his ass off
LQ where is your rb meta from?
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Seriously? Seriously? This has to be one of the worst analysis I have ever seen.In post 684, Salt Squad wrote:Probs to represent that all the votes are from scum aligned players.
~Bee
part 2) Is meh
part 3) Is scum feeling victimized by a post that I made as a joke.
Lynch this slot please.
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2) Meh? that's all you have to say about it? I don't want to see you confirmation biasing me 30 pages from now.
3) Honestly, with some of the rest of the stuff you have said, I wouldn't put it past you if you were actually serious there. Your ISO is full of stuff like this that doesn't make any sense.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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I shall remind you of Midnight Sun then.In post 796, Klingoncelt wrote:
I don't do AtE. Never have.In post 779, Wayward Thinker wrote:
Well, I Have said you are Scum before for using AtE just like this. I'm starting to think I need to move my vote. Would do it in a heartbeat if I wasn't hydraing with Suz.In post 770, Klingoncelt wrote:
It's after 2am my time, I've been running on 4 hours' sleep the past few nights, I'm in several other large themes, and this one JUST started.
I'm really not emotionally involved with it right now. By the middle of next week I should care more.
Damned unlikely that there will be a lynch before then.
Where the hell does it look like I'm using AtE in my post? Why would I need to on the very first day of a game when no one's voting for me?Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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I agree with you here.In post 873, Titus wrote:
I'll admit this is a unique setup with multiple town factions, but I am supposing that town and scum still behave similarly and human = town. Wagons do form and on scum, but you're oversimplifying. Expedience is wagoned for unpopular opinions, but not ones that are scummy imho.In post 861, davesaz wrote:
I found this and wanted to follow up to it separately. How is "people just voted him" an indication of town, in a multi-faction game? Or any game for that matter, wagons do form and sometimes they are on scum.In post 832, Titus wrote:
This is the short version of why Expedience is town aside from Math's push.In post 829, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:I can't see why expe wagon formed.
people just voted him.
someone explain why they felt the aggression and calling so many people scum is scummy
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OK, I have a few things to comment on this:In post 885, rb wrote:578I can't stand 604 - as a general rule I zone out and can't be fucked dealing with meta and delving into other games. If someone wants to give a specific example from another game they can go and get it themselves. I'll still disregard it but it annoys me to no end to be told to go and look at another game. Explain your actions in THIS game without sending Town on a multi-game-interpretation circlejerk. Also the statement, "it's not important what my reasons are" is just setting Wayward up to make a whole bunch of shit reasons for reads and expect people to not question them. Sorry, not letting you do that.
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1) Yes, my reasons do not makes sense to other people. This does not, however, mean that I will not be giving my reasons anyways.
2) I am not at all asking you to look up any game, so I have no idea where you are getting that.
3) I am not the only person for this slot so as such, I will be talking over my reads with my hydra partner. Hopefully in the process, my reasons will be more refined and better understood by Ya'all.
4) Are you seriously disagreeing with me about not knowing what I am talking about when I say that the games I have hosted that you have been in you have been pretty much all business?
5) Your reasons for voting me a poor
I'm keeping my vote on you until I talk to Suz again or until Suz leaves for Vacation depending on what else you do this game.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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gunna hit more from the following post because I don't think I gave it a proper read the first time around.
Jokes over.In post 885, rb wrote:578 by Stormblade intensifies my town read of them. Reasoning makes sense, it's full of actual content and there's a 72% chance it's Town-motivated.
Spelling, formatting, grammar and whatever other errors that makes sense is NOT AI. It should be apparent that they very well may be tired given the time of night it was for them.In post 885, rb wrote:581 by exped is awful. Spelling, formatting, grammar or whatever other errors make sense. Outright saying scummy things isn't excusable by "I'm tired "
How is what you are doing here any different?In post 885, rb wrote:Cephrir has similar reads to mine, but it's bugging me. I don't like 580 because even though I disagree with Exped, it's not just the fact he disagrees that make him feel scummy. Ceph is making less effort to understand Exped's POV than he is focussing on the fact that he apparently thinks Exped is just wrong. Town are wrong all the time. Scumreading people because you think they're wrong is dumb.
Fine I'll link the other two games you played where I was the host:In post 885, rb wrote:I can't stand 604 - as a general rule I zone out and can't be fucked dealing with meta and delving into other games. If someone wants to give a specific example from another game they can go and get it themselves. I'll still disregard it but it annoys me to no end to be told to go and look at another game. Explain your actions in THIS game without sending Town on a multi-game-interpretation circlejerk. Also the statement, "it's not important what my reasons are" is just setting Wayward up to make a whole bunch of shit reasons for reads and expect people to not question them. Sorry, not letting you do that.
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http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=24321
http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=24467
Person in question is redbaron.
Linking other games is a thing here rb, well, at least for me and a few others.
No one knows if your reads are complete BS or not because you are just throwing out random percentages to go along with you reads.. so are the reads a joke too? Just the reads? Just the numbers?In post 885, rb wrote:@MathBlade post 608 duly noted - but can you point out what you see to be a lack of content? As far as I'm concerned I'm sharing reads and pressing people on their opinions/thoughts, with the numbers for flavour. You seem to be implying that I'm just throwing out arbitrary numbers with no meaning - show me what you're talking about.
This is actually a valid point.In post 885, rb wrote:Following on from that, Ceph pointed that out in 623 - I'm wary of Ceph sheeping me here for the same sentiments I expressed about his post 580. He likes me just because we seem to agree - that's not a good reason to townread someone imo.
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Town typically doesn't plan ahead. We didn't talk about the planning ahead thing when discussing our read on you. Scum are much more apt to plan ahead than Town. And its pre-flip, meaning any interactions you have to analyze now, don't mean much until flips actually happen. Granted I think if anyone is really "planning ahead" like what you describe here mathblade is more the person doing that. And some people might consider the bold a Scum slip, just fyi. So then you follow that up with saying "you understand our skepticism, but not why we are skeptical. MY point in our Scum read on you is that you are doing something I have not seen before ie. being silly with percentages. I haven't seen you be silly in a game and I don't remember you using percentages either.In post 885, rb wrote:Post 629 is crap. I read this as having a lot of potential for sheeping on MathBlade's 608 - where am I sheeping? Show me. Planning ahead? Who doesn't? Are you saying that you don't read into the interactions and their context between people in the game and think about how they might play out? Surely if someone died right now and flipped scum, you'd have an idea of where that'd lead you next right? If I was doing full-blown scum-association crapand trying to pick the scum-team, I'd understand your skepticism. I don't understand it from this POV though because I'm clearly not playing the scum-association game.
You played your first game ever starting May 17th. Besides that stupid point, how much do you really think your meta can change in 4 games? I said it was a vote to pressure you, did you not read that part or something? This is the first real post you have made all game so I'm not sure exactly what "other stuff" there is. Enlighten me.In post 885, rb wrote:Post 671 - Yes you've watched me play a game as Town and also as Scum. My first and second games ever. Being that it was about 2 months ago that I played my last Town game (this is my 4th game overall, 1 as Town, 2 as Scum) I've obviously changed quite a bit. Also you mention in this post that what I'm doing here is something you've not seen me do either as Town OR Scum - so what's with the scumread? Shouldn't it be NAI? Why don't you focus on the other stuff I'm posting instead?
BB is saying you are joking around rather than actually playing the game, which not only looks unnatural from one angle, but doesn't look like you are doing much as well. Why are you posting numbers?In post 885, rb wrote:Post 688 What am I hiding? What's not clear to you? There's an 84% chance you're confused Town not understanding why I'm posting numbers.
I get that you don't like the "I'm tired" defence, but I've been trying to tell you the whole time how this game is about reading the player.In post 885, rb wrote:770 can we not have, "I'm tired " as a defence? I made a joke that I say less sig-worthy things when I'm not sleep-deprived, but I find it fully acceptable if people find things I say or do scummy when I'm sleepy and I see no reason why I'd be somehow "more scummy" just because I was tired. Motivation of figuring out game and helping town is still there.
K, well keep playing and I might be having more reasons for Scum reading you as the game progresses.In post 885, rb wrote:771 is cute. I herebydenyso that you can tunnel me all game because this is scummy-af and the perfect cherry on top of your ice-cream sundae of, "I don't need to reason it doesn't matter!" if and when it's successful and I flip Town there's an 90% probability that you'll be next lynch and I'm perfectly okay with a 1-for-1 Town/Scum trade. Tunnel away baby. You're my highest scumread and I'd happily die if it means you get lynched next.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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I'm Town, so I couldn't tell you.In post 913, BBmolla wrote:@LQ: how many people are on your scumteamHydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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No, that's not a tunnel. A tunnel is when you hammer someone with questions over many pages worth of the game.In post 916, rb wrote:I think I covered it at 885 as to how much I disliked their posts. I have more questions for Exped but Wayward is my strongest scumlean. Exped is unhelpful and not at all giving goos reasons for his thoughts.
Wayward is doing the same thing on top of throwing in meta reads (which I dislike) and also the fact that he calls it a pressure vote but then also insists they refuse to remove it if I don't do some specific thing is scummy af to me.
Pressure votes are what you do when someone isn't giving content, tunnel votes are what you do to your strong scumreads.
So why's he tunneling if it's just pressure?
Wayward = scum imo.
I feel your vote on me is an OMGUS. Pretty obvious fmpov.
Notice how his Two Scum reads are the ones voting him. Hmm. what does that usually mean?Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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You know what? NVM its prolly not a Scum slip. I still find rb scummy tho.In post 921, Wayward Thinker wrote:It has come to my attention that rb may have scum slipped.
He said the last time he played as Town was 2 months ago. His first game he played he was Town which was May 17th, about 2 months ago.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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Just that he said the last time he was Town followed by not saying this game. I would expect that to be said something like "This is my second Town game and last Town game I played was 2 months ago." Can't remember how he said it now.In post 924, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
what about it was like a scum slipIn post 922, Wayward Thinker wrote:
You know what? NVM its prolly not a Scum slip. I still find rb scummy tho.In post 921, Wayward Thinker wrote:It has come to my attention that rb may have scum slipped.
He said the last time he played as Town was 2 months ago. His first game he played he was Town which was May 17th, about 2 months ago.
I don't understand
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off the top of my head:
Nosferatu is still a light scum read.
Thinking Mathblade could be Scum as well.
Kinda like Titus as Town with their later content.
There was a post by Copper the pinged me, but forgot what it was.
Don't know about your slot yet.
Heartless is prolly Town, even though I don't like the "meh" vote they placed on us.
Don't know about C+A.
Still like No Result or whatever their name is for Town.
Don't like Salt Squads push on me.
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In post 930, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:can you talk about each at least 1 sentence ?
whats your read on expe?
are you scumreading nahdia for scumreading him or is there something else about her?
~IceI would really rather prefer to talk to Suz before I go into more detail. I may or may not catch her before she goes on vacation. If I don't I will give you the reasons that I do have sometime tomorrow, but for now, I am going to bed.
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Who is Nahdia?In post 956, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
read on Nahdia and expediance , I want your opinion not suz.In post 953, Wayward Thinker wrote:So it turns out I'll be around a while. Was going to sleep and wake up for my appointment, but my appointment is at 9:45 so I will be awake until like 10:45 or something.
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I think Expediance is likely just misunderstood Town.Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune-
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It just seems like Exp is too "out there" to be Scum IMO. I have the same problem sometimes.In post 959, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:One of the Stormblade heads. the one who initiated the wagon on expe
what gave you that idea? what makes him misunderstood?
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I honestly had this same though. I would be curious of how you got at it. My way was kind of backwards and hard for people to follow but it may hold weight.In post 717, Luna Fox wrote:dave maybe scum.
Yes, but I dislike meta reads so much. They make me die inside a little bit.In post 719, Klingoncelt wrote:My meta reads are great.
A lot of people can't do meta reads.
Please don't try to stifle those of us that can.
(The on going catch up continues. I am watching the game topic at normal speed too)Hydra of LicketyQuickety and Suzune