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that was an obvious typo
I meant you expressed a townread on me , like no one can ever mistake that shit in game
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oh come on , I'm fucking dizzy
I fixed the above. it still stands.In post 2194, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:stop playing with words nahdia
she said its to stupid to be scum then its to scummy to be scum or to good to be true scum
its hurtful to see one using this way of thinking again
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If you had any problem with me you could ask me to leave at pregame. I gave you the chance,In post 2197, dramonic wrote:
This is a more polite way of saying I don't value your thoughts on what constitute proper play.In post 2190, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
Thats even worstIn post 2189, dramonic wrote:It's not too scummy to be scum, it's not too good to be true.
Find a better player to post. Oh wait, you have one.
and what?
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Meanwhile, Firebringer, who while I dislike is at least capable of coherent reasoning (and basic fucking grammar), is also part of your slot, so you should let him take over and spare me your garbage.
<3
now you can shut up and let me play
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although not sure where is fire. will try to get in contact with him.
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oh and btw
I don't fucking care you don't value my judgment
I don't fucking care at all
I'm not playing for you.
go play your game if you can - you have a satisfying result? good for you.
I'm satisfied with my play
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I understood that nahdia
anyway I also forgot this
UNVOTE:
I need to work on my 3 major scum reads.
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V/LA to cool of
I was about to ask for a replace out that fire asked me to calm downHydra of Frozen Angel and Firebringer-
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This is the fire head to tell you all, stop being mean to Frozen chan.
Anyone who is mean to her will answer to my fire.
I am taking over. Frozen is taking backseat. ANYONE WHO DARES TO QUESTION US WILL BURN FOR THIS!
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Dramonic, I heard you are being an extreme dick.In post 2207, dramonic wrote:sup fire?
But what else is new?
Cause that aint news to me.
I guess I should read what I have missed though.
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Okay here are my problems right now:
1) Last time I posted it was around 30-40 pagese in the game? Now its doubled.
I don't know if I will ever manage to keep up with this, and I posted yesterday.
2) I want to see Day 2 fast because I think this day is going to be a shit show, which it has been. Congrats on getting so bad on activity that the mod had to pm everyone and say "calm the fuck down"
3) Even though I have zero read on Kuroi, I might be willing to vote there just to again move this day along. Make some notes during the night and figure this shit out tomorrow.
Anyone have any specific questions?
BTw read the last 10 pages, worthless.
Just worthless in terms of me reading and commenting on. Not going to be surprised if 90% of the stuff I missed as like this.
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I never cheated in my whole life and I never flaked when things were bad for me in a game. Thats not even close to what happened hereIn post 2210, Toogeloo wrote:I feel like FA is the type of player that would flip the Monopoly Board and storm out of the room if she landed on an opponent's Boardwalk with a Hotel.
what do you want me to do against an a... like him? stand here and get insulted?
I have better stuff to do with my life.
stop calling out my name or talking about me or my play style. you have no rights to question me or judge me here. fuck you all for making all my games personal and then accusing me for it.
as I said fire will be on control for a while. I can't deal with this shit
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oh and all my fucking Iso is pure content
so you may just fuck off <3
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I didn't actually realize this till I went much deeper than 10 pages, and then looked at activity overview.
Yeah, our slot is a big offender.
My points still stand pretty much, even if I maybe a hypocrite.
Less activity would actually help gamestate for everyone.
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Also I am reading Dramonic as actually town here.
Not sure on DGB, and less sure on some others.
Heartless leaning that way, and Kuroi is still null even goign through his iso.Hydra of Frozen Angel and Firebringer-
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I wish you said none of that, since it wasn't time or place, but thank you.In post 2223, Toogeloo wrote:That's all I'm going to say about that since it's completely off topic.
If we can all drop the stuff about FA, you guys can all interact with me and get a read of me.
Like Frozen said and I said. I am taking lead of this hydra. Frozen will return likely Day 2.
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Its a bit hard but KIn post 2220, dramonic wrote:
This has literally no bearing on my point.In post 2219, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:oh and all my fucking Iso is pure content
so you may just fuck off <3
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Please keep your emotions in check.
I hope they just ban you for abusive behavior and trolling about my play and me being game. so thats all fine
this is offtopic and can be disgusted out of the game , like everyone is whining about post counts and your just pushing this shit here?In post 2222, Toogeloo wrote:
You are always on defense about people attacking you when, in most cases no one is, and you are almost always one of the first people to throw stones as well. You take everything, even the most innocent comments or jokes, as personal affronts to your very being many times, and always play the drama queen and talk about how you're physically durressed in real life as a result.In post 2218, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
I never cheated in my whole life and I never flaked when things were bad for me in a game. Thats not even close to what happened hereIn post 2210, Toogeloo wrote:I feel like FA is the type of player that would flip the Monopoly Board and storm out of the room if she landed on an opponent's Boardwalk with a Hotel.
what do you want me to do against an a... like him? stand here and get insulted?
I have better stuff to do with my life.
stop calling out my name or talking about me or my play style. you have no rights to question me or judge me here. fuck you all for making all my games personal and then accusing me for it.
as I said fire will be on control for a while. I can't deal with this shit
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Hell, Bloodborne mafia's end game is nothing but a rant on your part about how shit everyone is and that you were wronged in some way.
I have full right to be pissed about cerb , elbrin , abr , allmost , shadow in bloodborne for the shit show happened in day 1 and day 2. we can talk about it if you want in offtopic. still you have no right to judge me
I didn't take anything personally. They all suck. Dram saying he has no respect for my play here sucks. dram saying I must be out of the game is an offense and yes I'm taking these stuff personally
Now if you have anything to add to game go fucking ahead. if not come in chats or wherever top discuss my old behaviors and my rant in bloodborne
pedit : nice you realised it
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discussedIn post 2227, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:disgusted
And yes , My English sucks yes dram.
I already reported it to listmods - did that immediately and yes I'm waiting to see how will mastian react. you trolled and you had abusive behavior and you wished me out of the game - basically asked me to get out of the game.
I want you banned or at least been force replaced from this game.
<<< This has not happened yet. I did speak to dramonic about his behavior though, and I am expecting improvement. >>>
I'm not going to let anyone do this shit with me again.
And I can't when I get constantly called cerb . If you don't know that about me you don't know me at all.
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Okay I just did an ISO of Kuroi and can say that I am atually leaning town on him.
Reasons are being on mostly tone alone.
The beginning phaes are actually a bit scummy, with posts like "I can't believe we caught scum" being the worst offenders that ping me. The later posts had an odd sense of ego in them though. Like he didn't expect a wagon or to be lynched, but he didn't explin why more than just like he thought the case was nothing. Could be arrogant scum, but it felt townish I guess. Not just scum ego.
Later hi posts about thinking for yourself sounded silly because he just voted people just sheeping, and his reads don't seem fully explored. He calls his town game bad, and I can maybe believe it in that sense given his stances so far, or maybe he is excusing his poor play.
I am going with town on this one.
What did I win?
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Frozen, this is your hydra partner asking to you to please take a break.
This game isn't worth getting upset over.
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ISO is usually lacking most context to situations, so no.In post 2238, Titus wrote:A broken heart from me. His read stances are insane. Did you read his ISO without context?
I mean, he could be scum, but he is likely not informed in any sense of the word I am thinking.
Maybe its too early to pick up associations, but he seemed genuinely not in it with anyone? If that makes sense. The game is early though.Hydra of Frozen Angel and Firebringer-
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Titus, because Titus hearts are powerful.
But enough shenanigans, why specifically do you think he is town?
And anyone else i should read?
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I probably need sleep to be honest at this point.In post 2246, dramonic wrote:... I just replied to Cerb on that very subject <_<
I somehow missed that.
Anyways, ill make some notes of this game tomorrow.
I need the zzzzs.
Frozen don't you go posting!
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I actually relised how bitchy I was lately
I hope no one is really upset with me . I made a post about Bloodborne game there (just reffering cuase it was refrenced)
again I'm sorry for my English. I never learnet it from anyone. its all self learnt. I will be more than happy if anyone point me my mistakes in my posts and I'm really sorry if its frustrating to play with me.
sorry for how I behaved Dram. I didn't at all attacked your playstyle there. I just wanted to see what is your reason and I relised in the next page when nahdia explained. I respect others has different playstyles and they all beleive its the best one.
The reason I raged was becuase of the post you expressesed shame for not asking me to leave the game at sign ups. I should be more angry at myself for letting anyone feel that way about me.
anyway i hope you guys can forgive me. there is another reason for my more often mood swings recently which I expressed in Bloodborne.
almost50 knows how disgusting I can get during this period of my life.
sorry everyone again. don't be mad at me cause I love you all.
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kuroi is choosing the best moment to destroy tituses townread on me. fucking lol
titus just lost a micro from me where kuroi was modding. I would just lynch kuroi for this. like obviously he read that earlier. why else would he wait to attack me like that? plus he had a townread on me before this
I didn't read anything between the point I leaved and here. will catchup tonight
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kuroi is choosing the best moment to destroy tituses townread on me. fucking lol
titus just lost a micro from me where kuroi was modding. I would just lynch kuroi for this. like obviously he read that earlier. why else would he wait to attack me like that? plus he had a townread on me before this
I didn't read anything between the point I leaved and here. will catchup tonight
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actually I like storm more and luna less after reading these pages. luna seems a bit to out and while she is not developing the game so much she is actively posting. anyway this neighbourhood will be sorted later I guess after some flipps so I have no intention to push anything throw there.
KC 100% team thing is actually what I saw in her town game once (the one we suicided a partner in night 1 and semi cleared ourselves - I was in hydra with RC and was scum) and she is actually doing some stuff although they seem shit. so I have my doubts about this wagon
WT vote on KC was pure bullshit and holy shit scummy .
Expediance is doing the same scummy thing he was doing.
and my read on cerb hydra is solid town.
heartless hydra is something I can't read. not pinging me that much yet but also not towning up so much.
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what is the VC look like atm?
just sayin I actually count this post as a scum claim.In post 2953, KuroiXHF wrote:
Excellent addition. Who are my scum buddies?In post 2952, Cephrir wrote:sometimes a scum is just a scum
BTW, what's your paypal account? I kind of think it's rude to not pay someone for a psychic reading.
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@kuroi cuase you asked him to think about after your scum flip not defending yourself for why you shouldn't even flip. asking him who are his other scumreads is a way for engaging him and seeing how he builds his reads and shows the fact your suspicious at him
you said who are my scumbuddies implying you know he is town , scumreading you legity andyou just wanted him confused with assosciative tells even before a flip which implies your a scum well distant from your partners or your a scum who is solo in a faction probably a SK or cult leader.
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I mean asking him who are his other scumreads is way different from what you asked .
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not reallyIn post 2977, dramonic wrote:"This is what you are thinking" is wrong 95% of the time.
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no that post was not useless. I was genuinely trying to engage mathblade cuase of her scumread on me.
You said you have us as town lean before how you had that read and what about my early posts is suddenly scummy for you? what changed?
and what about my last post you can't understand.
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I posted basically the same read about dave like the one you posted from fire , I can swear.
what about Fire saying it was towny which wasn't about me?
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lol not the same thing but I had the same in my mind. kIn post 720, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
Go on....I wasn't getting that from his posts.In post 717, Luna Fox wrote:dave maybe scum.
ignore that question
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waiting for a VC atmIn post 2997, Titus wrote:Ice, can y'all vote Kuroi. I think you're not voting.
making my reads stronger
and stuff
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@Kuroi
yeah I feel everyone else beside me sucks sometimes. that changes to I just suck and everyone else not sucks sometimes. offtopic really. not sure what was the point of that post. I have a isolation of more than 200 posts and your really bringing one post out of it and saying its wording was useless? the post that its entire reason was for bumping my previous questions,
about cephir : your wording felt like you know he is legitly scumreading you (means you two are not in same faction if your scum) . instead of asking him what are his scumreads you asked him who are my scumbuddies which means your
1) confident there is no assosciative tells between you and others (which means your a solo scum or distansced well atm)
2) although your pretending to, your not defending yourself. your just trying to suggest you can't be scum with anyone.
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fuck you ...In post 3011, Toogeloo wrote:Alright, fuck ya'all, I'm out.
after all the shitty "not out any info" alarms the whole day long you just come out and full claimed for us for what? All towns know what is a shape of town role pm and the scums probably have proper fake claims and know all the stuff about it.
like wtf was that. explain why you felt its going to useful anyway
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cephir was my earliest prob town who I put in null when I saw he is not getting anywhere with his reads and is just testing the ground and he is still there.In post 3019, KuroiXHF wrote:And as I've said before, I am catching up. Cephrir is scum reading everyone he wants to, but he's not scum hunting.
thats not related to what I felt about how you appeased to him.
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by outing oursleves we're not giving any info to town to work with , we will just give scum a clear map of what the shit is the game like. no mod will let his/her scum team get outed in a massclaim.In post 3023, Toogeloo wrote:Cult would never recruit me now, I've made too big of a target of myself.
Mafia will want me dead just in case.
Town will want me dead just in case.
I want to die "on purpose" at night.
I've also stated that if I am alive at end game, I need to die.
None of those scream "recruit that guy," to me.
I never said anything about "we shouldn't out info," other players do that. If you know me, you know I love claims since they give info to work with. I would say I've partially claimed, fully claimed, or at least breadcrumbed in almost every game I've ever played.after all the shitty "not out any info" alarms the whole day long you just come out and full claimed for us for what?
like you claim x , y hint at z , a point at b , c out d and the scum will already know what is half of the game state and how they must plan their fucking night actions.
what info is your claim giving us beside two confirmable details?
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appeasing is not the correct word. it felt engaging with the knowledge he knows your town.In post 3030, KuroiXHF wrote:How does anything I've said even appear to be appeasing to Cephrir?
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are you kidding meIn post 3034, Toogeloo wrote:I'll tell you what, if town loses solely on the basis of my claim, I will retire from mafia forever.Hydra of Frozen Angel and Firebringer-
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I meant you know he is town :/ (by that I mean you really think he is scumreading you and not framing you)In post 3032, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
appeasing is not the correct word. it felt engaging with the knowledge he knows your town.In post 3030, KuroiXHF wrote:How does anything I've said even appear to be appeasing to Cephrir?
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fucking pronouns
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I hate these double postings as well sorry everyone not intentional
@kuroi can you read the post I explained what I meant there when I said I think "this is a scum claim" or your just shitting me right now?
I accused you that you know he is not framing you. that means your eaither from other factions as scum or he is town and your scum. he is town in the opinion of scum you.
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I used the exact phrase in my bloodborne mafia.In post 3046, KuroiXHF wrote:You've used "(the misppelled you're) just shitting me right now" when you were scum in House M.D. The exact phrase.
VOTE: A Song Of Ice And Fire
I used this exact phrase so many other places. I used it ten minutes ago while I was talking with my husband.
I'm not scum in this. I don't care about your meta shit cuase its wrong and your probably just scum
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As I said you just went back in this game to call me scum based on the way I played in that game. I called it when you were preparing yourself.
show you what? the phrase in my town games? like really? you think I use the spescific pharase in my scum games based on the one game you modded and I was scum in? your just trying to dirting up my slot at the moment.
My all games are in my wiki. if you want to read them go read them.
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@ceph
I just think the place your at atm is really easily fakable as scum and your play is not enough for town reading you atm. I want to be more cautious about you. I don't know anything about your meta.
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@Kuroi your accusing me that I use that phrase as mafia only and not town . I'm using that phrase all the time IRL and I have no idea about how much and how I used them. the burden of proof is on the accuser. I don't have any intentions to meta read myself cuase your accusing me of some shit which is not obviously alignment indicative. your saying cuase I used it on a same mafia game recently I'm mafia cause I said it? kindda sad how much your trying to just throw dirt throw me
VOTE: Kuroi I was waiting for fire to come online or mastin to make a VC but clearly not getting any tonight
I mean its not like your reads are there to sort people, seems just playing good and having good reads without fighting for having them , not sure If I'm implying what I meant good enough.In post 3065, Cephrir wrote:I meant like
What does "not getting anywhere with my reads" mean.
It sounds kinda like something I don't do
I'm not disagreeing that I could probably fake 99% of what I've done this game
good night anyway.
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your saying cuase I used it on a same "way in a" mafia game recently I'm mafia cause I said it "again"? kindda sad how much your trying to just throw dirt throw me *
phone posting missing words.
pedit : I had my intention to vote you way before you even calling me scum. your the one who suddenly read the same posts and called me scum for it afterward.
your saying I'm using the same phrase only as scum. I'm not cuase i'm used it here and I'm town. you only saw one of my scumgames with that phrase. what the fuck is this accusation and how am I going to reflect it? by rereading all my games to see where and how did I used it so far?
come on. it 11:30 at night and I'm already half an hour late to sleep. I am not in anormal condition to stay awake so long at nights and I'm just awake cuase I can't sleep atm. you want to meta read me I should do your homework?
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hope there is no your in there cause its extremely hard to use ' in phone or writing that long shit at all.Hydra of Frozen Angel and Firebringer-
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want a hint?
I'm sure I used the same phrase to cerb in bloodborne mafia where I was town.
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I have no fucking idea how should I defend against something redicolous. yes I'm using that phrase these dats more recently. Its just a fucking phrase in my mouth, the fact my recent games or used it in some of my scum games and not town is not proving any shit beside the fact that the things that let me say that phrase happened more in my scum games
I will do a meta dive today in my games though to check what you claimed- that I only used it on my scum gmaes only.
@cerb the thing your reffering too was something happened to me after a car accident. its just when i feel the pressure on my is too high I ask people to legitly get out of the room. even that phrase by itself mean nothing beside showing I'm frustrated.
whoever said this is not frustrated scum who is shitting around and his only case and legit in this whole game (which he had town read on before and I have no idea how he got scum indication from my posts by rereading them after the game he was modding finished). the only thing I can think of this shit is he legitly trying to dirtying my slot up and I won't let this shit happen
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ah I was just reading my last post and I saw I just used shitting around
how about that? another meaningful and the best way for psychological analyzing me?
for god sake ...
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there were stuff in his posts I didn't like. forexample the vote on KC was alarming fake
need to eat something and go out will iso drive kuroi , WT and likely exped (if I had time today)
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There has been another 40 pages since I posted 24 hours ago.
I am going to literally die.
Please, for the love of god this isn't mafia. This is hell. Lets lynch anyone to move onto next day, pls?
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Actually, I am going to go talk to Frozen and we may replace out.
Like, I want to play games, and I like activity, but this is too much for me.
If I wasn't in any other games, I could easily keep up and be proactive, but this is just angering me to see this much in all honestly.
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I think frozen has been generally upset with this, so i don't know.Hydra of Frozen Angel and Firebringer-
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I need to do a meta dive into Kuroi to understand how much he has played with Frozen, but if I am right. I think I can gurantee a good read on him.
Right now my mind is flooding with suspicions that he is town, because his push is so specific and so weird that I think it only comes from a townish mindset that thinks they found the hidden "key" to reading a player. Theres other reasons I think pushing on us is in general a bad idea, that some others probably understand why, and I told frozen why thats bad.
Kuroi, how many games have you played with Frozen?
How many of her games have you read or follow at all?
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I am actually more likely to suspect the people townreading us right now tbh, because....I am not sure I am ready to delve into it.
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Ok so I was talking with Fire bringer about 2 hours ego about Kuroi
I did a meta check and saw the only games I ever played with kuroi (or kuroi was anyhow related to it) were these three
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=66946 (House md mafia the one finished yesterday , the questioned game)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=66940 (Anything Upick micro finished two night before , I was scum kuroi town)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=65032 (A song of Ice and Fire large , I was town and he scum)
the funny point is I did use the same phrase in ASOIAF here :
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p7579661
and I used it in anything upick as well :
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8110837
so putting aside his obvious lie for checking my meta completely in search of that phrase I just remembered how is this shit similar to what he did in ASOIAF where he was scum.
in that game I was pushing massive from a really early point cuase he was legitly scummy and kuroi was whiteknighting him so hard till nearlly end day. at end when we called him scum as well and people got tempted to vote him , he made a bullshit case against me , accused me of not pushing or trying to have a read on my friend jeanne who was a confirmed IC in the game , started to say I feel scummy becuase I was defending myself in weird way , tried to push me for my language and grammer and my post count.
so instead of defending himself , he started white knighting some other town and pushed a crap on another.
he made sketchy responses like the one he did in response to cephir there multiple times like once he said "I didn't say ALL of the scum was on the wagon, ABR." he had nothing like it in the recent town game I saw from him.
so in conclusion kuroi is scum who is playing exactly like what he did in ASOIAF , who is trying dirt my slot up and make everyone paranoid about me as a trick by lieing and faking a pattern about my games without even analyzing the games we were inside together. the timing of his reared and the fact he backtracked on reading me from highest town reads of him till scumreading me this confident over a crap peace of shit is all fake.
I'm not going to compermise in other wagons today. this scum must just die
Fire thinks the wagon on kuroi is decent after reading all these meta info and stuff. I suggested the only way I can see him town is becuase he might be angry at me who started raging in his own way after me winning a scum game two days ago by using his vote in lylo and fire rejected that idea as he feels really confident about it and the tone. Fire thinks he is either lazy town or lazy scum and his flip will help to get idea about others and where their standing. I feel there is no way for him being town.
Fire suggested it might just be a horrible reaction test and stuff. I don't see it at all.
anyway fire went to sleep and I want kuroi dead.I will post this conversation on demand.
again I never claimed I'm good at meta reading but here is what I get from researching.
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and no ; I reduced my games to one for being able to handle them and I want to stay in it and play.
I convinced FB to not replacing out - I can't play anything solo for a while because of my special RL condition and the fact I might flake suddenly.
so we both will be here till the point this head flake or the end I guess
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why?In post 3412, Almost50 wrote:I have a null read on WT & a Town read on Kuroi, so I'm not likely to vote either of them.
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