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Hi scumIn post 92, Luna Fox wrote:That discussion wrt BBMolla has been overblown I agree, why do we want to speculate on something so silly?
I mean Tim was pushing Molla as scum in 53 for the claiming. I don't mind them questioning it, but getting a scumread from that is ridiculous.In post 96, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
I am agreed with the second sentence. that was an antitwn play. and I learnt the hard way that an anti town play is not definitely scummyIn post 86, Salt Squad wrote:Tim's push on Molla is pretty terrible
I'm pretty sure Molla's claim there is completely NAI
not fully agreed with the first one. i liked him questioning it. that was a retarded antitown move - not for the probablity part though ; flavor stuff claiming is definietly bad in a specially in a role madness game - and I don't like bbmola reaction after the push.
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What do you think about Expe and Song of Ice and Fire?In post 104, Luna Fox wrote:I think that Tim's scum, and BBMolla's town.
It doesn't help find scum but it's also not hurting anything by doing it and could potentially result in useful posts.In post 108, Luna Fox wrote:
Also, how does it help you find scum, by calculating the probabilities of conversion? If you can answer that, then sure, continue discussing probabilities, otherwise i'll continue to intervene.In post 103, Salt Squad wrote:What do you think of it then? You're just saying "this isn't worth discussing, that isn't worth discussing, we should discuss this".
Ok, are you actually going to give opinions on anything or just keep shooting down discussion topics?
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No yeah this is just scumLuna Fox wrote:
This is scum or anti-town at best, how does it help you to immediately lynch me even if you think im scum, before i even get started scumhunting and getting information out?In post 106, Expedience wrote:Let's just all agree to immediately lynch Luna Fox once the day starts so people don't struggle to keep up with all the hydra posts.
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NulltownIn post 113, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
what doIn post 111, Salt Squad wrote:What do you think about Expe and Song of Ice and Fire?youthink of us ?
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I don't think most of what you've said has been AI but the stuff that didn't involve Expe looked townish.
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Oh I thought you were referring to your hydra with usIn post 121, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
us was me and expe. I'm more curious about your expe readIn post 118, Salt Squad wrote:
NulltownIn post 113, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
what doIn post 111, Salt Squad wrote:What do you think about Expe and Song of Ice and Fire?youthink of us ?
~Ice
I don't think most of what you've said has been AI but the stuff that didn't involve Expe looked townish.
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I think he's town, I don't think he'd be this engaged and aggressive as scum
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^In post 127, Expedience wrote:
Clearly not a thing.In post 120, Luna Fox wrote:shutting scumhunting by overfocusing on probability discussion.
P-edit: there was a blitz he was scum in where he was very out of it and not really interacting with anyone iirc, can't remember the exact game
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Yes u are don't lie.
unless you changed this account to ur main instead of ur other one.Heat, Beeboy and Cakez. MUGI-CHAN BEST GIRL-
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pls dram u get to play with me o/ no regrets allowedIn post 178, dramonic wrote:/regretsHeat, Beeboy and Cakez. MUGI-CHAN BEST GIRL-
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the answer to this question is 99% scumIn post 154, Luna Fox wrote:I would prefer if the discussion was "What's Luna's alignment" instead of "Who's Luna".
are these legit reads?In post 167, rb wrote:I get a slight town read from Luna, 58% is the exact percentage. I give Exped a 33% chance of being Town. That means that there's a 0.58 x 0.33 = 19% chance they're both Town. I think Luna and Exped are different alignments.
Since I give Exped a 67% chance of scum, there's a 0.67 x 0.91 = 61% chance that Ceph is Town.
I sure do love me some percentages.
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In post 182, Salt Squad wrote:the answer to this question is 99% scumHydra dissonance intensifies.
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Probably around 3.In post 202, rb wrote:If Salthydra is scum, how many of the named Town would you think were also scum? If any?
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You got me and my foiled my master plan :'(In post 211, rb wrote:
There's a 59% chance that you'd actually name 1 but say this to get us to lynch 3 if you were ScumSaltSquad.In post 208, Salt Squad wrote:
Probably around 3.In post 202, rb wrote:If Salthydra is scum, how many of the named Town would you think were also scum? If any?
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this is probably town, although I disagree with the Luna and Expe readsIn post 189, rb wrote:
I'm mostly just trying to give Luna an aneurysm by talking about percentages as much as possible, but put in the plainest terms:In post 182, Salt Squad wrote:
the answer to this question is 99% scumIn post 154, Luna Fox wrote:I would prefer if the discussion was "What's Luna's alignment" instead of "Who's Luna".
are these legit reads?In post 167, rb wrote:I get a slight town read from Luna, 58% is the exact percentage. I give Exped a 33% chance of being Town. That means that there's a 0.58 x 0.33 = 19% chance they're both Town. I think Luna and Exped are different alignments.
Since I give Exped a 67% chance of scum, there's a 0.67 x 0.91 = 61% chance that Ceph is Town.
I sure do love me some percentages.
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- Luna on slight town read for trying to direct discussion to something useful (I understand her point)
- Exped on slight scum read (he's pushing her about it for reason I don't quite understand, plus he's possibly buddying me)
- Ceph on slight town read (the alts altiness thing just seems like town motivated to me)
There's a 63% chance I talk about percentages in every post I remember to talk about percentages in for the rest of the game.
Ceph goes into the town pool as well for his reaction to this
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In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8101948#p8101948]post 231[/url], Heat wrote:actually frozen i think ive read u correctly in every game but pokemon ep 3+4, but beeboy read UTL correctly so we still lynched ur slot :>Heat, Beeboy and Cakez. MUGI-CHAN BEST GIRL-
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Town
Cephir - Town posting and paranoia of town reads that are on him (classic mutliball town tell)
BBmolla - Scum doesn't randomly distribute potentially incriminating information in the first few posts of the game when they don't know if the will get town read.
Luna - Gut, I don't think Luna would be this active as scum because she isn't confident in herself as a player.
Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.
Tim - Has good reads so gut.
Scum
Wayward Thinkers - Random information fishing early on to try and look useful was pretty sketchy and I don't think anything that was asked will lead to anything.
Expedience - Has lots of big posts but hasn't left any sort of impact on me which gives me horrible gut feelings.
Wayward Thinkers right now since Expedience is just gut.
Who do you want to vote and do you have questions about my thoughts on other players?
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yeah u were already replaced when ur slot got lynchedIn post 236, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
I don't recall getting lynched.In post 232, Salt Squad wrote:In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8101948#p8101948]post 231[/url], Heat wrote:actually frozen i think ive read u correctly in every game but pokemon ep 3+4, but beeboy read UTL correctly so we still lynched ur slot :>
was I already replaced?
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This was a copy paste from my note pad I am using for this game.In post 237, Salt Squad wrote:Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.
I expect more trolling from scum!bringer pretty much. I didn't really read my reads before posting them I just copy pasted them LOL.Heat, Beeboy and Cakez. MUGI-CHAN BEST GIRL-
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I know scum hunt in multiball but I liked Firebringers reasoning was pretty thoughtful, looking for town tells not scum tells and Fire bringer trolls as scum more.In post 241, Luna Fox wrote:
Wouldn't it be the opposite?In post 237, Salt Squad wrote:Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.
And even then, scum scumhunts in multiball you know.
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I think that looking for town tells over scum tells is a huge town tell in multiball since scum are prioritizing finding the other scum or getting control over the game by driving lynches because there is another faction fighting for that control.In post 248, Luna Fox wrote:
This is the only post remotely close to scumhunting i've seen from fire.In post 194, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
Town post because the person is weirded out, and only people who are weirded out are town.In post 192, Cephrir wrote:that's one of the weirdest reasons i've ever been townread but okay
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Where are you getting your read from.
Just this?
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I stand by my read because I do believe actively seeking out town tells is a townie thing to do. Yes scum, scum hunt in multiball but that only means that scum will also be looking for scum, seeking out town tells is an entire different story. Ignore all my shitty meta about Firebringer, the read on Cephir wasn't surface level and I don't think it was just a scum jerk reaction cashing out on a post that was clearly town to look relevant to the game.In post 256, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:beeboy your reason for townreading Fire sucks in my pov .
whats your read on me?
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I haven't disliked anything you have done Frozen but I am not confident in my ability to read you because I have seen you play as scum I think 4 time or some large number and I town read you every time so I think I need to figure out a different method to read you.
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In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8102105#p8102105]post 268[/url], beeboy wrote:Why are you so concerned with me town reading Fire and Ice?
Also did you dislike my explanation is 262?
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Town tells and scum tells are still relevant just not all of them are.In post 279, Wayward Thinker wrote:You guys are going to give me a twitch reading the posts with percentages in them.
Salt(Bee), I think that this game is not quite as simple as town tells and not town tells because of the multiball angle. The rules seem to suggest that it is not so black and white.
i'm envious that so many of you can judge the Fire head of that hydra. I tend to be able to read frozen better because Frozen is straightforward in her thinking and drives what she believes in.
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You caught me as scum because I was concerned with people's town reads on other players without having a strong opinion on those players. I find it odd that you would be calling my town read on Fire bad when you share the same town read (I think). Like you are doing something you told me was scummy in previous game and that makes me feel incredibly wary of your alignment.In post 277, Heartless wrote:
what the fuck r u talking aboutIn post 269, Salt Squad wrote:In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8102105#p8102105]post 268[/url], beeboy wrote:Why are you so concerned with me town reading Fire and Ice?
Also did you dislike my explanation is 262?
~Bee
262: Is this explanation for my Fire town read bad?
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Are you town reading the ice part of the hydra?
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Oops.In post 295, Heartless wrote:no
I aggressively try and look for town aligned players and lynch the nontown players after that. That is just how I like to play mafia in many games.In post 286, Heartless wrote:
if you want to know what my issue is w ur "townreada" in general are its that they look thrown out there, not too well thought out, and theres too many of them (scum not wanting to make enemies)In post 277, Heartless wrote:
what the fuck r u talking aboutIn post 269, Salt Squad wrote:In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8102105#p8102105]post 268[/url], beeboy wrote:Why are you so concerned with me town reading Fire and Ice?
Also did you dislike my explanation is 262?
~Bee
I am setting a pace for the game that scum can't keep up with and it makes people's alignments more apparent as a result.
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Why would I bother lying about how I like to play mafia?In post 300, Cephrir wrote:
that's a new oneIn post 296, Salt Squad wrote:I am setting a pace for the game that scum can't keep up with and it makes people's alignments more apparent as a result.
I think that if I aggressively have reads scum players will try and match that which isn't particularly easy to do. Or at the very least it generates discussion. Is my play style bad in your eyes or something?
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Wasn't she super emotional in like the Steven Universe Prequel and other games as scum tho? What's the difference?
Like I get the townread there and agree but the reasoning behind it is weird.
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ok but didnt u townread her in denmark mafia?In post 397, Titus wrote:However, she has a markedly different tone in her scumgames. See NY 191. She just never quite feels town.Heat, Beeboy and Cakez. MUGI-CHAN BEST GIRL-
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erm ok, I'll trust you on this for nowIn post 397, Titus wrote:
I am not recalling SU the prequel. However, she has a markedly different tone in her scumgames. See NY 191. She just never quite feels town.In post 391, Salt Squad wrote:Wasn't she super emotional in like the Steven Universe Prequel and other games as scum tho? What's the difference?
Like I get the townread there and agree but the reasoning behind it is weird.
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also cane + able are town, I recognize House's townposting here
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r u talking abt me or FA?In post 407, Titus wrote:Yeah that was Denmark. You were townread because you were charming. I lack that. And I caught scum. I did wind up nailing you though.Heat, Beeboy and Cakez. MUGI-CHAN BEST GIRL-
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to be clear, I'm talking about the nailing part, not the charming partIn post 409, Salt Squad wrote:
r u talking abt me or FA?In post 407, Titus wrote:Yeah that was Denmark. You were townread because you were charming. I lack that. And I caught scum. I did wind up nailing you though.Heat, Beeboy and Cakez. MUGI-CHAN BEST GIRL-
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tbf u amished tell'd pretty hardIn post 422, Nosferatu wrote:took me like 4 posts to get myself lynched in denmark mafHeat, Beeboy and Cakez. MUGI-CHAN BEST GIRL-
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OK here's a reads vomit
My Expe townread has inverted, his posting from page 22 or so on is atrocious. The rb vote for example stinks.
Cane + Able is still town and Titus is likely wrong there due to the aforementioned personal issues.
Heartless is null AF which is bizarre since I usually townread them quickly but their posts are mostly NAI.
Nos is a townread for activity and engagement
That's all from top of my head
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I forgot to mention this is the towniest Nahdia post I have ever read.In post 578, Stormblade wrote:bad read from SC on 125 minus many townpoints dude what the shit.
126 IS SO WRONG LUNA FOX IS LIKE EXACTLY RIGHT OH MY GOD. not really bothering with Ice's posts because idk i think they town and whatever. they right when they say shit usually tho.
dig the meta coming from Ceph i appreciate the perspective. oh my god everything eexpedience posts is so fucking scummy.
ceeeeeeeeeEEEEEEERRRRBBB is lame.
Salt Squad is town i trust i trust i trust!!! Heartless scumlean for 223 there's been multiple FA townreads and u pick out that one? i can respect the reasoning in 255 but it just feels like maybe scum trying to discredit town finding each other early.
I like the reads in 234 except maybe the BBmolla read. again feels shallow. maybe im just being too wary of the dude.
lots and lots of words man oh man i feel like a kid in the back seat like ARE WE THERE YET "no we got another 9 pages" ARE WE THERE YET? yeah im getting hella lazy. ima just post what i have and read the last few pages and if u guys feel there's anything else super important to read lemme know. my HYDRA PARTNERS will keep tracking of those missing 10 or so pages
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Please hold while I collect quotes:In post 550, rb wrote:
I'm inclined to townread Stormblade for this because Exped was my biggest scumlean early game as well. I want to hear reasons though, once you catch up.In post 534, Stormblade wrote:Goddamn so I had 5 pages down in a big long catchup post and then my computer crashed so you people are just gonn ahve to to dealwith this shit sloppy shit and ur gonna like it
ok first 5 pages. from what i remember it was mostly bbmolla being dumb and ppl yelling. Tim was mad at him and i couldn't decide if it was disingeousous "trying really hard to look like town" or actually town. bbmolla wasn't actually town fori t. copper was right on that. luna was right to say people should stop giving a fuck. SC was bad when he called luna scum for that but was town when he said something else and i dont really remmber what it was. also THIS GUY. THIS FUCKING GUY. THIS GUY IS SCUM. AND IM GONNA VOTE HIM RIGIHT NOW:
VOTE: EXPEDIENCE
im actually so pos of this and whenever i get confident early game reads they're usually right so look the fuck out dude im tunneling you till the end of time.
other stuff. The ice head of Ice and Fire got salty and Titus called her town for it and Titus was probably right but NAI from Titus. ASOIAF lean town tho. Nosferatu dishes out some quality bant and Cephir apparently isn't about that lifestyle but he can step off bc Nosferatu is cool by me dude. i feel ike scum were moe inclined to harp on that molla bullshit for as long as they could bc it's the kind of discussion where ucan blend in and earn #townpoints without actually having reads.
anyway more to come SOON probably maybe and i will likely be more drunk by then this is just first 5 pages.
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Exped scumread increased from 67% to 69% (hehe 69!)
im not expressing myself well i guess but i dont wanna just say gut i just feel like he'sSpoiler: Scummy Expe Quotes IMHO
a) Trying to harp on a mech discussion so he can blend in with town
b) Discrediting early townreads which has scum motive written all over it
c) His own scumreads make no fucking sense to me and are on people i mostly townread
d) His reactions to people scumreading him SUCK. "im sorry for playing the game lol y r u pretending to scmread me xDDD"
VOTE: EXPEDIENCE
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this makes no sense, heartless's play has been lukewarm so far, not try hardIn post 615, Titus wrote:VOTE: Cane and Able
The Nos votes suck, their vote sucks. The heartless vote is rather meh. Anti's probably town though. I've been scum with him and I cannot seem him efforting this hard as scum.
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This is terrible, percentages aren't AIIn post 629, Wayward Thinker wrote:We think we will go with a vote on rb for now.
VOTE: RB
This vote is placed for a twofold reason. The first is the constant on the percentages. Planning ahead and running the numbers pings me as scummy
The second is the general sheeping of opinions.
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p-edit, goodness gracious everyone is posting so fast.
Except it's Nos who usually lurks his ass offIn post 630, Cephrir wrote:
i can think of like 8 posters who are more active and engaged, and they probably aren't all town. go back to the reads store and buy a new one.In post 622, Salt Squad wrote:Nos is a townread for activity and engagement
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oh hey there cheetoryIn post 636, Heartless wrote:
oh hey spiffeh, nice to see you againIn post 622, Salt Squad wrote:Heartless is null AF which is bizarre since I usually townread them quickly but their posts are mostly NAI.
Read some old games + some more modern gamesCane + Able wrote:I've got a bit of paranoia about Cakez b/c idk where he gets the idea he can read me, but he's more accurate than somebody that has played several games with me.
No it didn'tCephrir wrote:
it improved if you didn't stop paying attention.In post 632, Salt Squad wrote:Actually yeah Titus could be scum
Her whole 1v1 with Cane and Able was bad and her Heartless townread is bizarre
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Last time he was like this he was town in soccer spiritsIn post 644, Cephrir wrote:
if he usually does it, why is it alignment indicative this time?In post 635, Salt Squad wrote:Except it's Nos who usually lurks his ass off
LQ where is your rb meta from?
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