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Meh, I'll say who I'm running, just not where they are.
AmeliaLi
Mastermind of Sin
Oman
creampuffeater
The Venerable Zorg
FlameAxe
It's not the best team I could run, but it's a good team, I think. I also imagine I'm going to be very liberal with replacing people.
I intend to be very heavy handed regarding telling you to do things, and to throw my confirmed innocent status around like a large brick. If I tell you flat out to do something, you should do it, and ultimately, you're proving yourself to me. If you're going to do something other than what I tell you to do, you better have a damn good reason. On the flip side, it's unlikely I will invoke this if I think you are a competent and pro-town player, so it is in your direct interest to act as worthy and pro-town as possible. There's at least one person in the starting 6 I think I'm taking a risk on, and I see two players on the bench, too, who I really don't have an especially high opinion of.-
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Left Forward = AmeliaLi
Center = Mos
Right Forward = TheVenerableZorg.
Left Defence = Oman
Right Defense = Flameaxe
Goalie. = Creampuffeater.
This is what I'm running. If anyone has any genuine objections based on game speculation that they feel is quite good, then by all means say it. I have my reasoning for each and every player on the ice, but I don't really see the point in saying it atm. Amelia has apparently left the site, which is a shame, as I was optimistic about here, but I don't see her replacement impacting on my plan majorly, though, it may possibly leave the frontline a little weaker than I'd like it. If it turns out genuinely exceptionally weak, then I'll just pull the shit I was talking about earlier, and say that though their opinions are theirs, their votes and nightactions are mine.-
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I don't think anyone really knows what the positions do or how to score goals. I'm assuming these things will become clear as the game goes on. I just assigned people to certain positions based on what would seem general good ideas. Like Mos is my centre because he's a strong player, and he's an acceptable backbone and I've put the newer players up front because I have a suspicion that this game will be designed in a way a good defensive line can stop a goal, but the offensive line doesn't really matter as much as it could, cause if we keep lynching scum, we're likely to score goals regardless.-
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#1: No idea.Oman wrote:YAY I AM CHOSEN!
Can I ask a bit about mechanics? One, what benefit/power does it hold being in the lineup. You also mentioned being liberal with replacing people, can this happen at any time or only in a night/day cycle?
#2: This is a nightless game.
I have no idea, beause I haven't got the same PM as the players, though it was my major theory about what the positions do that certain people are better in certain places.TVZ wrote:I dont suppose the position we are given in our role pms has any impact on which positions we do better in?-
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But why not add yourself to the random list? I mean, surely if it was truly random, like the dice thing said, it wouldn't matter at all if you added yourself, seeing as it wouldn't mean anything other than you rolled a bad number, right?killerbob wrote:
I never vote myself...I'm not UA or Karen.Primate wrote:Why not add yourself?-
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I actually thought that was an OK post. What didn't you agree with from it and what do you think he slipped up regarding?The Venerable Zorg wrote:Sorry about my absence guys-i only just got back from a week's holiday.
Quickly reading, i don't agree with this post. Could well be a scum slip-up in my opinion.Lowell wrote:I have no idea. I guess it would be nice if one perosn from each position could claim. As in, take positions one by one and find one person to claim, while others stay silent.
Again, I don't really understand the game dynamics, but it seems probable that having the right people in the right positions helps us.
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No, just no.Mastermind of Sin wrote:I would like to propose something. Not for this day, perhaps, but for future days. I propose that whoever Primate puts on the ice gets immunity from lynch. I propose it for these reasons:
a) This allows Primate more control over who gets lynched, since he doesn't have a vote. Sure, he can tell us what he thinks, but scum can still argue against him if they have to. This way, he makes some of the calls for sure.
b) This allows us to focus more on a smaller group of players and hopefully apply good pressure to force the scum out. This is not to say that we will ignore other players on the ice if they do something really scummy, but the discussion should be focused around scrutinizing the scummy players not on the ice. The players on the ice still need to actively contribute and analyze people, because they could find themselves taken off the ice the next day if they try to skate by without helping the town. This forces activity out of the players as well as putting focused pressure on scummy players to get them to shape up or ship out.
c) Most importantly, this means that we don't lynch anyone who is currently on the ice. Since I'm not sure how the mechanics work for that, I'm going to assume that it would be beneficial for us to end each day with a full number of players on the ice, in order to keep the other team from scoring. This plan allows us to not only make sure that we have all those players on the ice, but that also the people on the ice are the ones who look more innocent anyways, since Primate is putting them there for that reason.
#1: I think I covered that if I want to lynch someone and the rest of the town doesn't, I can act as king and just order the town to lynch that person. That gives me all the say I will ever need, really, and as far as self-enforced rules go, it's better than one that encourages us to ignore half the players.
#2: 'focus on players not on the ice' is another way of saying 'ignore the players on the ice' except your way actively encourages us to do less whilst my way encourages the town to do more things. And I think the 'post or you get taken off the ice' threat is there regardless of whether we're focusing on the non-icers, so that's irrelevant too. So the second part of the plan is something that's going to happen regardless, so it's a bit misleading you try and put it across as an advantage of your plan.
#3: Is BS too. If someone is sufficiently scummy we should lynch them regardless. I admit we need to consider the ice, seeing as how goals are paramount, but it's a bit stupid just saying that we're going to ignore all the people on the ice cause it could lose them the game.
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If you would read the rules of the game, I can only do that at the beginning of the day. Until we lynch someone I can't do jack about who's on the ice.Shanba wrote:There is something that worries me before we all rush to lynch him, which is why I want Primate to move him off the ice. If lynch a player who is on the ice, won't be weakening our team compared to the opposition? As the winners are determined by the goals scored, we can't really afford to let the opposition score by hastily lynching.
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Yeah, well I'm disregarding your opinion on CPE then. He's blatantly town, imho.Mastermind of Sin wrote:
I don't like his interaction with Oman and the way he got his penalties.Primate wrote:
It's absolutely nothing like his scum play and very similar to how he always plays as town.Mastermind of Sin wrote:
This statement does not compute. Please explain.Primate wrote:PS: cpe is probably town. He's the only member of the intro crew I want to keep on the ice.-
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?????Mastermind of Sin wrote:I would like to propose something. Not for this day, perhaps, but for future days.I propose that whoever Primate puts on the ice gets immunity from lynch. I propose it for these reasons:
a) This allows Primate more control over who gets lynched, since he doesn't have a vote. Sure, he can tell us what he thinks, but scum can still argue against him if they have to. This way, he makes some of the calls for sure.
b) This allows us to focus more on a smaller group of players and hopefully apply good pressure to force the scum out. This is not to say that we will ignore other players on the ice if they do something really scummy, but the discussion should be focused around scrutinizing the scummy players not on the ice. The players on the ice still need to actively contribute and analyze people, because they could find themselves taken off the ice the next day if they try to skate by without helping the town. This forces activity out of the players as well as putting focused pressure on scummy players to get them to shape up or ship out.
c)Most importantly, this means that we don't lynch anyone who is currently on the ice.Since I'm not sure how the mechanics work for that, I'm going to assume that it would be beneficial for us to end each day with a full number of players on the ice, in order to keep the other team from scoring. This plan allows us to not only make sure that we have all those players on the ice, but that also the people on the ice are the ones who look more innocent anyways, since Primate is putting them there for that reason.
????Sure, we want to lynch scum, butI think it would be more beneficial for us to have a scum on the ice than to take them off the ice and play shorthanded. Assuming this game is supposed to simulate an actual hockey game, the scum can't sabotage the game *too* obviously, because we'd see it. However, playing shorthanded is a strong recipe for the other team to score.So I disagree that we should just "consider the ice".I would propose that having players on the ice is the most important aspect of the game.
Your plan said that we should never lynch anyone on the ice under any condition.-
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PS: The best you can do to keep this game going is find some replacements. We haven't even been told which people in the game you actually intend to replace and whether you're actually trying to do so. And look at the other team, there's barely any of them left, nearly half their team is completely absent.
I don't know why you're bothering with stuff like this when there's a much larger issue you are doingnothingto address, andwillkill this game unless you do something about it very soon, if it hasn't already.-
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Mos, what are the scum capable of?Mastermind of Sin wrote:I don't think it really matters who we put on the ice, since we don't know who the new scum is.
Pretty much everything in your old pm you can get away with without quoting pls.
And honestly the claiming was the entire reason I wanted this phase, so I know where to put you, if we're not allowed to do that, I agree with Mos that my list might as well be random (literally).-
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But Foolster just randomly selected a new scum, so all of our opinions up until this point mean absolutely nothing.Lowell wrote:Why would lineup be random? Just pick the six least scummy people...
Also, I like how we lynch scum every time and are "losing". This game is retarded.
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Eh, least I knew enough to keep you off. I'm annoyed about being wrong about CPE though.Mastermind of Sin wrote:
I don't know of anything in particular. My role wasn't any different from the ones Oman and CPE had. I didn't have any special abilities. I believe that the hawks were scored on the first time because all three of us were on the ice D1. Also, I told you not to put CPE on the ice! =P <3Primate wrote:
Mos, what are the scum capable of?Mastermind of Sin wrote:I don't think it really matters who we put on the ice, since we don't know who the new scum is.
Pretty much everything in your old pm you can get away with without quoting pls.
And honestly the claiming was the entire reason I wanted this phase, so I know where to put you, if we're not allowed to do that, I agree with Mos that my list might as well be random (literally).
Mostly what I'm asking is do the scum have any kind of kill or way of re-arranging the list that I give in a day. But also any kind of roleblock or way of doing something with penalties? Did you have safe claims, and if you did, it is actually a safe claim or do you actually get a better result from being in that position over just being on the ice.-
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