Fritz's Fav Fictional Figures Faction Fest - Game over

[curiouskarmadog]

silly ass page 1 vote: thin man

quit bragging, its ok creampuffeater, you just dont look at him

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote vote crashtextdummie

comment you quiet bastard

[curiouskarmadog]

there is a pattern here , I just know it...I just need to look closely and find it...

[curiouskarmadog]

definitely a pattern...but where, where dammit, where.

Just...need...to...look...closer.

[curiouskarmadog]

wow, I was mostly joking, but 9 (-4)votes (someone should check to be sure) on page three? You got some fans Jordan..

A reason or two?...sure you wont mind spelling that out for me again.

[curiouskarmadog]

Scroll up?

More like trying to build a case on scumtell that isn't one at all, which is scummier.

and two?

[curiouskarmadog]

Actually, Jordan quoted it and made a joke out of it. Why is it scummy for YL, but not MoS? Hmm?

fair enough, one or two reasons....are you saying he also indicated MoS in this slip?

fast bandwagons Day 1 usually freak me out

[curiouskarmadog]

I guess chalk it up to my inexperience then..one of my first experiences on this site, Day 1 took 45+ pages..and it was a mini game...

like to hear from Jordan.

[curiouskarmadog]

also prod crashtextdummie

I think everyone else has at least checked in

[curiouskarmadog]

LOL wiki entry for aziraphile:

Aziraphale is a fictional angel in the novel Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman.

The book summarizes him thus: "Many people, meeting Aziraphale for the first time, formed three impressions: that he was English, that he was intelligent, and that he was gayer than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide."


ha....

[curiouskarmadog]

he didnt say he was vanilla

[curiouskarmadog]

[quote="ibaesha"]

Vote: Flameaxe

Pretty much for the wagonning yesterday and today.

FYI, I don't like the Sarc-wagon.

Glorkish, I dunno about you. Just sayin'.[/quote]

any reason you picked flameaxe? over JDodge, UltimaAvalon, and KaleiÐoscøpe, who did/are doing teh exact same thing?

[curiouskarmadog]

Yes. Primarily because I don't recall having played with him before, therefore have no meta on him. Jdodge always wagons, so I expect it. UA was a consideration, but I've seen him do some really silly stuff as town before so I am contemplating his behavior. Also, UA didn't originally jump on, but joined later. As for K-Scope, he always seems scummy to me, and does even now, but I am hesitant to vote people who I feel that way about. Overall, it was a starting point for my vote today, because there doesn't seem to be much to gleen from yesterday. Btw, I had already looked at the other wagonners and expected a question like yours. I wanted to see who would ask it before explaining my reasoning, though.

Nevertheless, I'll give Flameaxe the benefit of the doubt for now. I don't know why he would claim role-related info over one vote, though.

unvote, vote Glork

- Sneaking suspicion. Nothing concrete.

and what did you gather about me by asking?

[curiouskarmadog]

jesus, 4 pages over night..wow..

still waiting for ibaesha to answer my question

stance on current topics...

I believe flameaxe's claim...why did you want to come out so early though (Day 1)?

I dont have a problem with MoS's questioning (thinking he looks town, trying to explore all options) of Sarc's mention in Day 2 opener. agree Jdodge is playing "dense", but does that indicate him as being scummy??..dont know yet.

I am not looking much into the Day 2 opener by fritz and an indication who is scum or not, I think Day 1 really speaks for itself.

no read on Glork, and I am not understand how he has 5 votes already.

[curiouskarmadog]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Learn my way of play.

That is all.[/quote]

vote KaleiÐoscøpe

I will pass, curious though, why have you jumped on every bandwagon that has rolled through without providing any content?

[curiouskarmadog]

happy with my vote

[curiouskarmadog]

happy with my vote

But Kscope always plays like this. What separates this game from the others where he has played like this as town?

you assume I have played with him before...All I see is a guy who has voted for every bandwagon (3) we have had in the game and has not asked questions or provided content..what do you see thin man?

[curiouskarmadog]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]I'll give you a list of my suspects later, but don't expect any comments on them. I play by gut mostly, otherwise I would

continuesly ask for a BM lynch

.[/quote]
I absolutely agree with you there

will

unvote

for now...awaiting your "suspects"

[curiouskarmadog]

I am still waiting for ibaesha to answer this question...will repost it.

Yes. Primarily because I don't recall having played with him before, therefore have no meta on him. Jdodge always wagons, so I expect it. UA was a consideration, but I've seen him do some really silly stuff as town before so I am contemplating his behavior. Also, UA didn't originally jump on, but joined later. As for K-Scope, he always seems scummy to me, and does even now, but I am hesitant to vote people who I feel that way about. Overall, it was a starting point for my vote today, because there doesn't seem to be much to gleen from yesterday. Btw, I had already looked at the other wagonners and expected a question like yours. I wanted to see who would ask it before explaining my reasoning, though.

Nevertheless, I'll give Flameaxe the benefit of the doubt for now. I don't know why he would claim role-related info over one vote, though.

unvote, vote Glork

- Sneaking suspicion. Nothing concrete.

and what did you gather about me by asking?

[curiouskarmadog]

get a room..

on another note.

note to all my games:

going to be a light poster for the next 3-4 days (best man in a wedding) should be back and posting regularly by Sunday/Monday.

[curiouskarmadog]

you want a comment?

Unvote, Vote: JordanA24

Bandwagon time! Die scum die!

Oh, I'm sorry, did you want to just pause the bandwagon and have a tea party? Or did you just want us to kill you so that you don't have to think up a fakeclaim?

Given how fast this wagon developed, Jordan, it would look very very good for you if you gave a convincing claim right now, because scum would definitely want to have more time to think up a convincing claim in this sort of a theme game. So yeah, claim now or die.

Tick tock, Jordan. The window for convincing me you're not frantically trying to think of a fakeclaim right now is rapidly closing.

Well, you're (to thin man)obviously scum.

Also, Glork + IH + MoS = scum x 3.

Unvote, Vote: Glork

Die, please.

Unvote, Vote: Cephrir

Hey Skruffs. Help me lynch the fence-sitting scum.

I really don't like how you're scum(to blight).

I pretty much stopped listening to what you have to say. Your uber aggressiveness has discredited you. I havent decided yet if you are actually scum hunting or just throwing shit to see what sticks to the wall..

sorry if I dont jump when you say someone is scum

[curiouskarmadog]

For the record, as far as I can tell, both cases are escalating repititions of "No u r scum".

is that why you are voting one of them?

[curiouskarmadog]

For the record, as far as I can tell, both cases are escalating repititions of "No u r scum".

is that why you are voting one of them?

vote Skruffs

[curiouskarmadog]

so now what?

[curiouskarmadog]

Also, I like how all the scum (and most of the town) are just sitting back doing nothing right now. The fact that Yagami and I are starring in the main conversation right now does not somehow prohibit others from weighing in.

trying to keep track here, who other than Blight do you think is scum?

[curiouskarmadog]

For the record, I currently believe Blight and Cephrir to be scum. I'm also rather suspicious of Glork. Upon review, you're not looking too great either. Conversely, Ibby and Yagami are looking pro-town. Anything else?

Do go into more detail.

[curiouskarmadog]

For the record, I currently believe Blight and Cephrir to be scum. I'm also rather suspicious of Glork. Upon review, you're not looking too great either. Conversely, Ibby and Yagami are looking pro-town. Anything else?

Do go into more detail.

You first. Don’t interrogate other people about their opinions until you have some of your own.

I think your lay thus far in the game discredits much of what you say, but I have stated this before...I am more interested in why you feel Ibby and Yag are looking pro-town to you

[curiouskarmadog]

I think your lay thus far in the game discredits much of what you say, but I have stated this before...I am more interested in why you feel Ibby and Yag are looking pro-town to you

I think you should stop being fence-sitting, question-only scum. Give me your opinion and

then

ask me your questions.

nice, let me add this one too.

Unvote, Vote: JordanA24

Bandwagon time! Die scum die!

Oh, I'm sorry, did you want to just pause the bandwagon and have a tea party? Or did you just want us to kill you so that you don't have to think up a fakeclaim?

Given how fast this wagon developed, Jordan, it would look very very good for you if you gave a convincing claim right now, because scum would definitely want to have more time to think up a convincing claim in this sort of a theme game. So yeah, claim now or die.

Tick tock, Jordan. The window for convincing me you're not frantically trying to think of a fakeclaim right now is rapidly closing.

Well, you're (to thin man)obviously scum.

Also, Glork + IH + MoS = scum x 3.

Unvote, Vote: Glork

Die, please.

Unvote, Vote: Cephrir

Hey Skruffs. Help me lynch the fence-sitting scum.

I really don't like how you're scum(to blight).

I think you should stop being fence-sitting, question-only scum (to me).

I have given you my opinion...I think you are just throwing shit against a wall and waiting to see what sticks....you discredit yourself, so I dont really care who you say is scum..

HOWEVER, when you are willing to vouch for Yag and Ibby...this interests me..

I want to know what they have done in your eyes that is pro-town?

Furthermore, I want to know why you felt it important to tell us you thought they are pro-town.

[curiouskarmadog]

Upon review, it has become blatantly obvious that CKD is scum. I think we should be able to fit him into the lynching schedule after Blight and Cephrir. In fact, maybe he should go before Cephrir. Decisions, decisions.

LOL...oh I guess you didnt like my opinion.

[curiouskarmadog]

really...just you?

Asking questions are bad, now? It is called gathering information some would even call it scum hunting..

Maybe I should play more like you, throwing out cheap opinions left and right and jumping on the biggest bandwagon of the hour.

I have given you my opinion (about you)..now, quit avoiding the questions:

I want to know what they have done in your eyes that is pro-town?

Furthermore, I want to know why you felt it important to tell us you thought they are pro-town.

[curiouskarmadog]

You have been non-committal. You're not giving opinions at all - you're just asking questions in an attempt to appear helpful. Now, when I ask you to, all you do is insult my play as if that vindicates you somehow. Sorry, CKD, but you can't just pretend to contribute. Giving an opinion on me is hardly productive. There are enough of those, and it's incredibly easy for scum to decide what to think. You're going to have to do better than that.

Why do you care so much why I think Ibby and Yagami are pro-town? It's not as if I have some super-secret tells. And you asked me a question about who I suspected. I felt that it would be appropriate to tell you the people I thought were pro-town, too. Why are you so obsessed with this?

All you're doing is trying to take the easy way out, and that's

scummy

. You're not giving opinions, you're asking simplistic questions, you're only weighing in on the very biggest issues. You're certainly not going out of your way to be helpful, you're just doing the bare minimum to

appear

helpful.

ok, which is it..am I not giving my opinion or only weighing in on big issues?..

I am interested in why you feel Yag and Ibby are pro-town, why is that again (4th time you dodged this question)? I think it is important. I have found that when people volunteer who they think is pro-town without a.) providing a complete list of players or b.)being asked ( or prompted) who they think is pro-town is interesting(possibly scummy). You have explained your motivation, and I have noted it and will drop it. I also note, how you go to great lengths to push a cases for scum, but after saying someone is pro-town, you avoid following that up.

Just because you dont deem me as helpful, means exactly jack to me...funny you think I am scum for not being helpful, when there is a sea of lurkers that you are ignoring. Maybe if I didnt call you out for discrediting yourself, your attitude toward me would be different.

[curiouskarmadog]

Tell you who I am suspicious of at this point,

short answer:

Skruffs, Kscope, yourself.

Jury is mostly out on all of you, not really enough to agressively push a case against any of you..thus the questions.

thank you for finally answering mine.

[curiouskarmadog]

Tell you who I am suspicious of at this point,

short answer:

Skruffs, Kscope, yourself.

My turn to ask questions. You've explained why you're suspicious of Sarc. Why are you suspicious of the other two? Details please.

well I have already mentioned why I am not liking Kscope (no content pop in voter)

Skruffs, just a vibe, his posts, the point inm time he voted for Blight I thougth was odd, the fact I asked him a question and placed a vote on him and he didnt even blink an eye..

like I said..nothing to really form cases at all.

[curiouskarmadog]

hi guys, i got a prod

sorry for

lurking

, making one post the entire game so far

day 1 was so short and i wasnt aware the thread opened

anyway my main suspicion is pj because he seems to be covernig up something

bye

what is PJ covering up? thoughts on anything else in the game?...have you even read the game?

[curiouskarmadog]

well with 21 people in here hard to keep track...I pulled up his posting list and saw two posts...thought it look strange..I xcross posted with you reply to skruffs.

so why has SL posted twice here?

[curiouskarmadog]

that means jack to me.

[curiouskarmadog]

Vote : Blight

Under threat of nightkill by Sarc, I meekly acquiesce to his demands. Because he scares me.

The reasoning behind my vote is right there, with the vote. See? Right there. I was attempting to slake Sarcastro's insatiable thirst for blood.

so essentially it was a silly vote to bandwagon to add pressure?

[curiouskarmadog]

you didnt forget, I never commented (really I think you are the first person to ask me that).

but I will answer your question if you answer mine.

[curiouskarmadog]

Rogueben, 30 pages in with 5 posts, do you have any thoughts on who might be scum?

L

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD

Do *you* have any opinions?

I have previously posted who I thought is scummy (to include yourself)..no real change except I am thinking that Sarc is an overzealous townie, who might be lynch crazy...for those who have played with him before, is this common?

Flame, if Kscope plays this way in all games, how is he usually addressed or what is the result?

[curiouskarmadog]

what is the result in other games?

[curiouskarmadog]

And why have you included me, CKD?

my orginal vote was a gut feeling combined with something you said during the Blight/Sarc debate. I did a reread of your posts again and I really am not that certian.

unvote

I dont have a read on this game...the only person I think is scummy is Kscope, but according to Flame he does this every game (meta shows he is mostly correct), so I am not sure what that means....in reference to Flame, I think that is "role" has gicen him an excuse to bandwagon and not comment. Not sure what can be done short of lynching him, but I am not willing to do that. I see the wagon on Cephrir, but I am not sure I get that wagon either...has there even been a decent case Day 1? I have also noted that Blight has dropped off the face of the earth now his bandwagon has settled down.

[curiouskarmadog]

Well, i know why Sarc is up my ass..I jumped on his radar when I called him out in post 498..since that post, I am scum...it is purely OMGUS..notice he didnt have anything to say about me before that.

[curiouskarmadog]

Hm, I believe that's -2. I really don't think there's any point in claiming, I'll be lynched anyway.

\
what?

the thought of agreeing with Sarc makes me cringe, but why would you not claim?

[curiouskarmadog]

Ibby, stop making goo-goo eyes at PJ, he's mine, I had a whole weekend to sink my claws into his hair while you barely had an afternoon. This incessant flirting must stop, ignoring my territoral claims can only result in bad consequences!

welcome pooky, I dont have a clue what the above quote means, just promise me you wont get anything on me.

[curiouskarmadog]

Nothing on you? it is a high honor to be considered property of Pooky.

wasnt worried so much about ownership, as I was about the juices flying around that this love fest.


this being said, I look forward to your reread (certianly you wont rely on people's views, versus forming your own opinions.).

[curiouskarmadog]

Since you 2 have time, give me a summary of this game so far.

by a summary, I mean the important points that you think are notable and should influence the decision as to who to lynch.

(bow) as you wish..in the next couple days.

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote, vote CKD

any reason? Is this because I asked you a question because I didnt really understand a statement you said pages ago?

[curiouskarmadog]

where have I played dumb?..(oh damn another question)

[curiouskarmadog]

[quote="PookyTheMagicalBear"]Since you 2 have time, give me a summary of this game so far.

by a summary, I mean the important points that you think are notable and should influence the decision as to who to lynch.[/quote]


I am not liking Sarc's ever changing scum group, however, I think he is just an overzealous townie, versus scum. I havent played with him before, so I dont know if this is just his playstyle or not..I am just not feeling scum.


I am not liking Kscope's play...but have been told that he always plays that way...however, he is hitting my scumdar.

Flame's claim is bothersome and have no idea how to test it without killing him...

something Ibby said early on pinged my interested:

[quote="curiouskarmadog"][quote="ibaesha"]

Vote: Flameaxe

Pretty much for the wagonning yesterday and today.

FYI, I don't like the Sarc-wagon.

Glorkish, I dunno about you. Just sayin'.[/quote]

any reason you picked flameaxe? over JDodge, UltimaAvalon, and KaleiÐoscøpe, who did/are doing teh exact same thing?[/quote]

[quote="curiouskarmadog"][quote="ibaesha"]Yes. Primarily because I don't recall having played with him before, therefore have no meta on him. Jdodge always wagons, so I expect it. UA was a consideration, but I've seen him do some really silly stuff as town before so I am contemplating his behavior. Also, UA didn't originally jump on, but joined later. As for K-Scope, he always seems scummy to me, and does even now, but I am hesitant to vote people who I feel that way about. Overall, it was a starting point for my vote today, because there doesn't seem to be much to gleen from yesterday. Btw, I had already looked at the other wagonners and expected a question like yours. I wanted to see who would ask it before explaining my reasoning, though.

Nevertheless, I'll give Flameaxe the benefit of the doubt for now. I don't know why he would claim role-related info over one vote, though.

unvote, vote Glork

- Sneaking suspicion. Nothing concrete.[/quote]

and what did you gather about me by asking?[/quote]

[quote="curiouskarmadog"]I am still waiting for ibaesha to answer this question...will repost it.

[/quote]

she finally answered with

[quote="ibaesha"]Hey, CKD, do you have a crush on me or something?

What did I learn about you from you being the one to ask the question? Other than you having some weird fascination with me? Your overall behavior I find interesting. You ask for my reasoning for voting a specific bandwagonner, but yet don't bother to ask the bandwagonners why they're doing it. Out of the various topics of conversation you could've joined thus far today, you seem to return to me over something fairly minimal.

[/quote]

she didnt really answer my question(s)...but decided to let it go at this point, because it wasnt that big of a deal...so no real read here at the moment, even though she is voting me for absolutely no reason.

skruffs also pinged my interest at one point, but I think he defended himselt to my satisfaction.

ALso, I feel good about Yag, and think that MoS is town.

We also have several lurkers and near lurkers that I am not digging, but I cant tell you where to place your vote, because I am not sure where to put mine at this point..

[curiouskarmadog]

maybe you can provide some posts that was disingeniuine to back this up? I didnt like the Jordan wagon and wanted people to back up thier votes with content...were you happy when a wagon that 50% of the wagoners didnt have content with their votes?

what "newbie act" did I pull early on? easy to say, can you please provide quotes?

all this being said, Mistress Bandwagon, what have you done for this town?

At least I am asking questions? Who are you to say they are irrelevant?

[curiouskarmadog]

As for Mistress Bandwagon, try again. I've joined one bandwagon, Jordan's, and unlike other wagonners, I provided reasoning behind my vote. I was first to vote Blight, first to vote you. And when I voted Cephrir, the initial wagon on him had mostly fizzled, and with it, so did his participation. So what you're really saying is that when I vote people, they get wagonned? Damn maybe it's because my suspicions and reasoning for voting is sound and people agree. It happens. Are you afraid that a wagon will form on you now? (Even though it should, since you're scum)

5th vote on Jordan..this was a reason?

unvote, vote: JordanA24

I thought his method was odd. What do you mean who am I? I'm trying to look for scummy behaviour.

More like trying to build a case on scumtell that isn't one at all, which is scummier.

3rd vote on Glork..really no reason here.

Nevertheless, I'll give Flameaxe the benefit of the doubt for now. I don't know why he would claim role-related info over one vote, though.

unvote, vote Glork

- Sneaking suspicion. Nothing concrete.

Yes, you are the first vote for Blight and you do provide reasoning, but there were a ton of people before you to FoS and call Blight scummy, before you placed this vote, will post if I need to.

Once the blight wagon did not go to completion,

You placed the 3rd vote on Ceph

unvote, vote Cephrir

When reading over Blight's posts, I also went over Cephrir's again. And I think that Theo's observation was a good one, along with the 'no suspicions' thing -and- the content or lack thereof in his posts. Also, Cephrir is now riding on Blight's coat tails and not adding much to the discussion now that the pressure turned away from him.

Bandwagon are not always about votes..while your vote is on Ceph

I'm also trying to figure out wtf Sarc -is- doing. Regardless of his arguments about why what he has done being 'null' and asking 'Why would scum do this?', I wonder exactly what he has done that is pro-town behavior. I certainly don't think that the wall to wall text arguments in the last few pages have been helpful. And I think that it's possible he's derailing us from finding scum. I'm also bothered by the way he has attached himself to me and other 'experienced' players like Glork (until Glork voted for him) and PJ in his arguments. The latest thing is that he said that no one is contributing anything else, despite the fact that he's been a big part of why. Plus, I did try to help us move on, but other than Blight responding to me, things just degenerated back to the same old argument that is going no where.

FoS: Sarc

A lot of people don’t like Sarc at this point, I wonder why you didn’t turn this into a vote? You are still joining the Sarc hate fest BW with the FoS, but agreeing with him by keeping your vote on Ceph, interesting.

Now the Ceph wagon doesn’t look like it will take you are attacking me, hoping maybe that shit will stick to the wall…oh look, you have Sarc’s backing...good for you.

Your ”case” against me sad and lacking.

Disingenuine and Fake:

there is a pattern here , I just know it...I just need to look closely and find it...

definitely a pattern...but where, where dammit, where.

Just...need...to...look...closer.

This is disingenuine? This was sarcasm to poke fun at (but mostly bring light to) a bandwagon that had no case behind it, which you were a part of. Your buddy Sarc is familiar with sarcasm, funny you don’t find him (or anyone else who is using it) disingenuine…

Newbie Card:

I guess chalk it up to my inexperience then..one of my first experiences on this site, Day 1 took 45+ pages..and it was a mini game...

This was me pulling the newbie card, which indicates me as scum? You are ridiculous. This was in reference to me saying I have never seen a Day 1 lynching without at least some sort of case to back it. I was explaining that I just finished up with a Day 1 game that took 45+ pages.


and that is it, that is your whole case?

You do not have a case Ibby, why do you keep stretching?

[curiouskarmadog]

Wow, CKD is awfully freaked out about one vote.

LOL, so this is your retort? You completely ignore my post and chalk it up to being freaked out...

vote ibaesha

try again.

[curiouskarmadog]

I agree. CKD does seem to be crafting up a big case of bullshit. This could be a noob town mistake though. I'm inclined to think in this case CKD is overdefensive scum though.

Unvote, Vote:curiouskarmadog

please show me what case I crafted, and why is was "bullshit"...

[curiouskarmadog]

Wow, CKD is awfully freaked out about one vote.

LOL, so this is your retort? You completely ignore my post and chalk it up to being freaked out...

vote ibaesha

try again.

gee this isn't OMGUS

Unvote, vote: CKD

and it doesnt bother you that she completely ignored my post to her and pulled the "he freaked out" card.

Jdodge, do you feel her points are valid? which ones?

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD, why are you ignoring my request? Do you think it's unfair that I'm actually asking you to give opinions on players besides me and Ibby?

I saw it sarc, and I actually appreciate the fact that you giving me the oppurtunity to provide a list versus just plopping a vote down (which I think is your usual style). I am not ignoring you, I just lack the time (at the moment) to be able to post anything over 2-3 lines..

[curiouskarmadog]

going to be a light poster 11/09-11/12..long weekend holiday..

I know sarc wants me to post a list of everyone, might only be able to post a list of people who I think are scummy or just pinged my radar..everyone else you can consider neutral or pro-town.

if you want those lists too, you will have to wait.

[curiouskarmadog]

Why is this so hard, CKD? Do you not have any suspicions right now? I'm not asking you to re-read the whole game, just tell us which players you currently find suspicious and which you don't. Do you not already have opinions on most of the players in the game? You shouldn't have to re-read the game to know which players you think are scum.

I have opinions, but those opinions need to be backed by posts...I do need to reread the game to an extent...for people will ask while I feel such and such is scummy or town, I will have to go back and explain why...

[curiouskarmadog]

just because you are asking me to jump, doesnt mean I care to know how you want to jump.

You will get the list when I am finished rereading and checking on somethings...do you have problem with me providing more content?

if you dont care to wait and you think I am scum, vote me.

[curiouskarmadog]

Sarc this is all I can give, however, my reread (and metas) are not done. This list will spawn many question, I assume, which cant be answered until I finished my reread (have other PbP promised to other games and will be gone for most of the weekend until Tuesday)..some of these "ratings" might change once I finish my reread...Obviously everyone I am leaning to scum, cant be scum (need more reading).

can we see your list Sarc?

Thin_man---needs to be replaced
· Blight ---neutral
· IH ---leaning town
· Skruffs (Formerly Pawn)---leaning scum(just gut)
· Xyzzy ---needs to be replaced
· Sarcastro ---leaning town (or GF scum)
· Mastermind of Sin ---leaning town
· ibaesha ---leaning scum (top of my list)
· JDodge ---netural, leaning scum
· Flameaxe ---netural
· petroleumjelly ---leaning town
· PookyTheMagicalBear (formerly theopor_COD) ---netural, with a scum lean
· Elmo, BrianMcQueso (Formerly Macros)---not enough info yet, leaning town
· Rogueben not enough info yet, leaning scum
· Cephrir ---leaning town
· YagamiLight ---leaning town
· CrashTextDummie ---leaning town
· Glork ---neutral
· UltimaAvalon ---netural, leaning scum
· KaleiÐoscøpe netrual, leaning scum

[curiouskarmadog]

It does raise some question, the most important being "since when do you think I'm town?".

see, now everyone is going to want "why do you feel this" answered, which could have all been answered with a PbP break down.

as for your question...who is not reading the game now?

Since you 2 have time, give me a summary of this game so far.

by a summary, I mean the important points that you think are notable and should influence the decision as to who to lynch.

I am not liking Sarc's ever changing scum group, however, I think he is just an overzealous townie, versus scum. I havent played with him before, so I dont know if this is just his playstyle or not..I am just not feeling scum.

that being said, I have not ruled you out as scum, thus the (could be scum GF) part of the post.

if you have done anything in this game you have gotten people to talk

[curiouskarmadog]

Interesting, Ibby thinks you're scum and suddenly she's at the "top of your list"

have you been reading the game...where did you get suddenly?...

[curiouskarmadog]

lol, notice how you dont mention the other people (who have not even commented on me) in which I am leaning toward scum as well. Notice I am leaning toward town on both sarc and CTD who said they would vote me and think I might be scum. Noticed you would said you would explain your vote on me when you had time, but you have time to write that silly post.

wait until other people make cases so you can form your own much?

[curiouskarmadog]

haha

unvote

vote CKD

Lean on that

thats cute..

guess I should provide lists more often.

no case just a vote?

[curiouskarmadog]

My question is about the scum GF part. Why do you think he could possibly a GF, but not a normal goon?

he has blatantly jumped on wagons, caused strife, and vote hopped the entire game...now, would scum be so obvious about it? No, unless he was the GF which if a cop investigated would come up innocent.

that is why I feel he is probably and overzealous townie or the GF who doesnt care if he gets investigated.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote count please

going to be a light poster for the next couple of days (starting later this afternoon)...

should I claim now, or do you want me to wait till more people jump on the wagon with silly ass "reasons"? Just dont hammer, because you overzealous bastards are really barking up the wrong tree.

[curiouskarmadog]

Actually after reviewing my last post, my ass is going to be Nked unless I reveal today and hopefully get some night protection. I realize I don’t have too much pressure on me right now (I got 5-6 votes and I need 11?). However, I am going to be out of town with light internet access in the next couple of days and I should get it out there, because I have seen towns lynch people faster. Sorry I had to claim, but I am known for claiming earlier than I needed…Besides, I think there are enough shitty votes/reasons on my BW to find a decent lynch today.

Ibby and the rest, you have successfully rooted out another cop…good job.

Since people are going to want to know what my investigations were. (I don’t want my list to be taken out of context).

Night 0, I investigated Oman…received a guilty. Then proceeded to make an ass of myself to the Mod when I demanded to know why he was actually town and I was told scum. Apparently Millers give a “guilty” when investigated. Chalk that up to me being new (uh oh, Ibby I am using the newbie card again, I must be scum)

Night 1, I investigated MoS, because I didn’t buy his “bullshit” comment and vote after Jordan’s claim…he was innocent.

Now this does mean too much since the GF is still out there, but at least you have that knowledge now.

Also my name is “Jamie Madrox, Multiple Man”

Ibby care to address my questions now, or do you want to continue avoiding them?

Rogue, I would still like your case, because “OMGUS” is not a case.


heading out in a couple hours....cant wait to see what happens next.

[curiouskarmadog]

Skruffs if you felt like that was obvious breadcrumb (which it was)...arent you curious why pooky and kscope were so fast to vote me without reason after it? If Yag was scum, he could have filed that information away and told his scum buddies tonight...or simply could have voted me and agreed with the other caseless votes.

[curiouskarmadog]

got a minute...skimming my games..saw this question...have comments for Ibby coming tuesday wednesday when I get back to my home comp.

CKD, you never claimed flavor. Do so.

How or why do you investigate? Do not put things out as they are exactly in your role, but give us a generalization.

sending a PM to the MOD to see if a certian response is ok.

[curiouskarmadog]

I was given the ok for this...

"not sure what I can say here (that is not quoting the PM)..the basics are (paraphrasing) Since making multiple copies of myself is broken, I opened my own detective agency...I target at night and am told if people are anti-town verus pro-town....however, when I get the result it is of the "guilty" or "innocent" variety."

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote, vote Cephrir

Still thinking it's likely he's 'bad town' not scum so much, but this vote will work for now.

FoS

Perhaps you'll like this more.

unvote, vote Glork

My Cephrir vote was merely a placeholder. I don't unvote without revoting. You should know this about me, Glork. And I was trying to take the time to go back and re-read to decide which of you and Sarc was more suspicious. I'm starting to think Brian was onto something earlier in the day about lynching one of you two. This vote is has a hint of gut in it that has stuck with me since the beginning of the day, but I don't like a couple of things. First, the way you tried to drum up suspicion against Jdodge. It was weak, and the way you backed off shows that you weren't all that serious about it. It appears that you were pushing false suspicion that didn't pan out. Second, the way you off-handedly mentioned just following me on CKD. Also, there was the way you painted Sarc as a possible SK. I think this is more likely if you think he's scum, but know he's not in your scumgroup.

another bandwagon

[curiouskarmadog]

so you have not been bandwagoning this game?

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD: A bandwagon of two(?) votes? Really? Do you want her banned from voting for anyone who already has a vote, or something?

it is more when the votes have been cast, go back to see if you dont see a pattern

[curiouskarmadog]

so you have not been bandwagoning this game?

At present, this argument is horrific. Make it be not awful or drop it, please.

please reread post 911.

[curiouskarmadog]

Also, CKD. You half-ass claimed flavor, but not your rolename. So what is it? Since you've already claimed, there's no reason not to claim completely.

Ibby and the rest, you have successfully rooted out another cop…good job.

how was my flavor post half assed, I basically almost quoted the PM I received?

Jumping on a bandwagon is not just about votes…the pattern is this, once anyone comes under the limelight (with FoSes or questions) slightly, Ibby is one of first votes there with little reason. She did it with Jordan (hung a townie), when Glork first came under attack she voted without a reason, when blight started to get heat (people FoSing him calling him scummy) she voted for him, when Ceph came under attack (boom another vote from ibby)..then when Sarc started riding my ass, she voted me…after I had to claim, she went back to Ceph..now, Glork is under the light, her vote is back there. Every sizeable wagon we have had (except Sarc’s) she has been on.

Then there is this shitty ass post.

Disingenuine and Fake:

there is a pattern here , I just know it...I just need to look closely and find it...

definitely a pattern...but where, where dammit, where.

Just...need...to...look...closer.

Newbie Card:

I guess chalk it up to my inexperience then..one of my first experiences on this site, Day 1 took 45+ pages..and it was a mini game...

As for Mistress Bandwagon, try again. I've joined one bandwagon, Jordan's, and unlike other wagonners, I provided reasoning behind my vote. I was first to vote Blight, first to vote you. And when I voted Cephrir, the initial wagon on him had mostly fizzled, and with it, so did his participation. So what you're really saying is that when I vote people, they get wagonned? Damn maybe it's because my suspicions and reasoning for voting is sound and people agree. It happens. Are you afraid that a wagon will form on you now? (Even though it should, since you're scum)

She wants everyone to believe I am scum because I tried to point out a wagon (that she was one) was rolling along for absolutely NO reason…or is it I must be scum because I played the newbie card? When I really didn’t even play the card, but even if I did..I am still relatively new, so what?….

This was a deliberate misrepresentation. When I called her on this she only came back with

Wow, CKD is awfully freaked out about one vote.

And now she is basically threatening me..

I bought your claim, but your push on me for such bullshit reasoning makes me wonder if you're just a lying scumbag.

But wasn’t your vote and reasoning on me bullshit…hasn’t every vote you cast today bullshit?

[curiouskarmadog]

that being said, havent heard from Sarc much since my claim...wonder why that is?

[curiouskarmadog]

I have only skimmed page 42 and will read it later..I have given you my role..

"merely a detective/cop" I have paraphrased the hell out of the PM, if I say anything I will be quoting it directly.

[curiouskarmadog]

You know I noticed that he had claimed, I was going to wait for him to claim again anyways just because it was kind of buried, and if he were scum he may not have remembered it and claimed something else. The way I had seen it, if he were telling the truth there was nothing to worry about. It does seem a bit odd to me that he didn't just repost it though, I mean he quoted it in 1023, but makes no mention to having already claimed his name and doesn't re-claim it. As town he should already know that name to repost it, and even if he didn't, it's as simple as checking a pm.

really I was confused..I claimed..then people wanted favor...I provided the mod approved flavor, then they wanted my role..I couldnt figure out what they wanted (which is why I said, if I say anything else I would be quoting the PM directly) I did mention I had already provided it, but gave it again....because I was unsure what everyone was asking for.

[curiouskarmadog]

Ok, getting my bird on. Will have light posts for the rest of the day, then I wont return until Monday...posting in all of my games.

[curiouskarmadog]

Post 1084 really struck me.

I apologize if it is highly illogical, I just feel that iammars is hiding something.

what sentence or part seems like he is hiding something that deserves an illogical vote?

[curiouskarmadog]

I would think that if someone is likely a buddy with someone else, it would make more sense to lynch the buddy rather than the person who claimed a power role.

well that makes sense

but what does that tell you about anything? If the buddy comes up town, the other could still be scum. if the buddy comes up scum, the other could still be town and the buddy doesnt want to be investigated (thus the buddy-ing).

if we lynch Ibby and she comes up scum, have we learned anything about all those people who said she was obviously town or at least that she wasnt scummy?

[curiouskarmadog]

MOD, can we please have a correct and updated vote count?

interested in seeing reaction or lack thereof to this claim...I am not sure I understand your claim..an example...when you say you gave the doc ability to MoS...did you protect him or give him the ability to protect?

If you game him the ability to protect for a night...then he should be able to confirm that he did receive that ability that night right?

Since we are at deadline, it might be important to confirm that MoS.

[curiouskarmadog]

deadline in a week

you guys disgust me

maybe some prods are in order...

or updating of page one to reflect replacements.

or a vote count...

disgust is quite a strong word.

[curiouskarmadog]

Ceph's last post was over a month ago..

I am sure there are a lot more lurkers as well.

I am not a fan of any of those lynches...

but if I had to chose to avoid a no lynch..I would probably swing Sarc's way....

hey Sarc, look, more reason to push to lynch a cop.

[curiouskarmadog]

that hurts

[curiouskarmadog]

As much I want to lynch Sarc today, we need to lynch somebody, so

Unvote, Vote: Cephrir

umm, shouldnt we have him replaced...or even prodded first? Seems pretty easy to go after someone who cant even defend himself.

why are you voting Ceph and not Sarc?

[curiouskarmadog]

Anyway, with the deadline about 24 hours away and me in the vote lead, I guess I should claim to you idiots. I'm Troy McClure, Inventor. (I'm not actually an inventor -- I sell products to players via my infomercials.) N1 I gave an investigation to CPE and last night I gave a Doc ability to MoS.
I also have an RB, a Vig, and a Tracker ability to hand out.

I did not receive

anything

well now that is interestng.

[curiouskarmadog]

It's a trap.

IT'S A TARP!

Also, I would vote Sarc at deadline if Glork can actually get confirmed.

Iammars, both MoS and I said we would probably vote Sarc..

MoS, how is Glork going to get confirmed, when CPE (scum) is dead and you said you did not receive anything?

Either you are Glork is lying....or the mod screwed up...

MoS, is there another possibility that I am overlooking in this case?

[curiouskarmadog]

Huh.

I'll go verify my action with the mod.

ok mod has posted and no such mention of this..thoughts?

[curiouskarmadog]

It's a trap.

IT'S A TARP!

Also, I would vote Sarc at deadline if Glork can actually get confirmed.

Iammars, both MoS and I said we would probably vote Sarc..

MoS, how is Glork going to get confirmed, when CPE (scum) is dead and you said you did not receive anything?

Either you are Glork is lying....or the mod screwed up...

MoS, is there another possibility that I am overlooking in this case?

sorry for the triple post

I see that Sarc only has 2 votes..Mos and my vote would only put him at 4..which means no lynch at this point...so I guess I understand your cephrir vote..

at any rate,

unvote, vote sarc.

[curiouskarmadog]

as much as I would like to disagree with Ibby...a quick meta on cephrir and it looks like he is quite active in all of his games...his last post here was a month ago, and a couple days ago he posted in all of his games that he would be gone for a spell...however, he didnt bother to post in this one..now there is a chance that he has forgot about this game (with the lack of Mod Prods)..but I am doubting that...looks more like he is just laying low.

MOD CAN YOU PLEASE SEND OUT PROD FIRST THING "tomorrow"?? or do you need names too?

also, I tend to agree with Ibby that the glork claim looks quite shady, given that MoS says that he did not receive anything....Glork have you contacted the mod yet?...that information is going to be needed today. I guess I dont understand if Glork was lying, why wouldnt he just pick someone to "receive" the doc ability that was dead....your thoughts ibby?...anyone?

unvote, vote Cephrir.

until I am sure of glork's shady alignment, I dont think I should not be voting with him...and it looks like Ceph is lurking versus just not being around

[curiouskarmadog]

right, I forgot about role blockers and what not...

[curiouskarmadog]

Also: I go to boot camp, as I am joining the marine corp on Feb 11th. So...lets finish the game by then.

if our next night takes another month, I guess we are in trouble...maybe you should consider setting a deadline now...or finding a back up mod?

at any rate, for some reason I was given an extra investigation last night (for a total of two). Now it was said that me providing this information was a poor choice (has can be demostrated by the death of MoS). So I going to hold off for now. Besides, I would like to see who interacts with who and what not.

at any rate, need to reread.

[curiouskarmadog]

any reason?

[curiouskarmadog]

also, you are not in the least bit curious who I investigated or why I got two investigations last night?

[curiouskarmadog]

thats it? Well I think we have the matter of your claim from yesterday that was not resolved, or have you forget...you did you target last night, and what did they get?

[curiouskarmadog]

edit.

..who did you target...

[curiouskarmadog]

Gave IH a roleblocking last night.

I also gained a passive ability that was in effect for only last night. As far as I can tell, it's not related to my own role, but I have a couple of ideas on what may have happened. I'll elaborate on that later if I absolutely must.

I'd be down for an Ibby lynch today. I still want her to explain how she can justify her "drumming up suspicion" attack on me when she pointed at Ceph and said "look, this guy's not even posting" as a way to throw suspicion on him at end-of-day.

I want to here what you passive ability was and your thoughts on it.

[curiouskarmadog]

cross post, reading of over rated

[curiouskarmadog]

will you tell me how you knew you got the passive ability or maybe when...I mean Night did last a month.

[curiouskarmadog]

lets see, I have claimed cop

you had a strange claim yesterday that has yet to be verified (actually quite the opposite according to MoS)

I was able to investigate twice lst night

You gained an active ability that you didnt have before last night.

I want to know WHEN you got the ability

Do the math.

Seems like this could be important information for everyone.

[curiouskarmadog]

jesus glork, why else would I want to know WHEN you received the passive ability (other than your scum theory).

[curiouskarmadog]

I got my results 2 days before daybreak, but that doesnt have anything to do with it..

fine, you dont want to tell me the ability...will you now tell me WHEN?

[curiouskarmadog]

you thought it was relevant before when you "thought" I was a scumbag.

[curiouskarmadog]

I was mostly curious if you were "boosted" before I investigated. I understand my investigation was processed later, but I have seen some effects that go into effect the following night....at any rate, I will quite asking.

Mod, are you going to call me a fuckface again if I ask for some prods? (since we are on an apparent time table now?)

[curiouskarmadog]

I didnt say either of my investigation failed.

when I gave out my last investigation (MoS) I was told ( I think Ibby, will have to check to make sure) that it was poor game play..later (in other games) I figured out why.

it can plant a target on someone's back for night kills...if the majority of the game wants them..I will provide...but keep in mind, until we get a godfather...all innocents are meaningless....and should be taken with a grain of salt.

[curiouskarmadog]

Yes, which is why I unvoted him. He seemed to know that something was messed up with investigating me. I am almost certain that CKD is legit.

not that I want to quash your thoughts on me..

but from my stand point, I dont know that anything "was messed up with investigating you" I never indicated that either of my investigations failed. So if that is the reason you are unvoting me..you should place that vote back on.

You gave me a roleblocking... but I didn't recieve anything

Just so that I understand, IH, are you confirming that glork did indeed give you roleblocking, but your roleblocking action didnt work?

PJ, if Glork recieved it last night, and you're willing to believe that, how is Tar's post intriguing?

Also I have recieved zero notification from Fritz about anything. This doesn't prove anything, but I wasn't notified of anything either.

ok so that is two people who say if Glork gave them an ability they got no indication of it.

Beh, I shouldn't have spilled the beans. I'm kindof an idiot.

To be accurate, it made me invisible and thus immune to various night actions.

I need to understand "various night actions"..which ones? How do you know this. Do you know what night actions it effected?

[curiouskarmadog]

I couldn't be killed, investigated, or roleblocked.

But CKD, if you

did

investigate me, please reveal your result (or nonresult) immediately. You heavily implied it, and I got a notification explicitly saying that I was immune to those actions for this past night, so I can only assume that if you got any other result, you're full of shit.

I DID investigate you, I DID get a result. SO no matter the result that is the third time you have stated something that didnt pan out.

1.) said you gave MoS a power (he didnt get anything)
2.) said you gave IH power (he didnt get anything)
3.) said you couldnt be investigated (I was able to investigate and got a result)

I did get an innocent, but I would have gotten that off of a GF too. So one of us is lying, or there are other factors in play that we dont know about.

Not one part of your claim has been proven. I am not an insane cop because I was right about MoS.

At this point I dont know what to do. I have yet to be in a game when the cop got an innocent and all signs point to scum. Obviously there is a GF out there....I really would like thoughts on this. As it stands, I will probably vote Glork, even though I got an innocent.

is there any other possibilities other than 1.) glork is lying or 2.) I am lying that could explain this?

[curiouskarmadog]

also for sanity resolution issues, my other investigation result was an innocent too.

[curiouskarmadog]

does any of that explain.

1.) said you gave MoS a power (he didnt get anything)
2.) said you gave IH power (he didnt get anything)
3.) said you couldnt be investigated (I was able to investigate and got a result)

[curiouskarmadog]

who has jumped on Glork? I didnt really believe his claim yesterday (thus the investigation) but after I recieved the innocent I was willing to let it go. However, with his 2 new claims (which neither has panned out) I am considering a vote. I REALLY would like to hear from others (because there is more just 3 people in the game)....

I know Fritz is gone until Friday, but WE REALLY NEED SOME PRODS.
when you get back,

MOD can you please prod.

thinman (Primate's alt)
Rogueben
Pooky
CTD
Yag

I think that is it.

[curiouskarmadog]

MoS said he didnt get your power either.

[curiouskarmadog]

ok the role blocker could have blocked you or MoS.

something completely different happen last night that stopped IH from getting your ability, or he is lying.

but nothing yet explains why after you and elmo thought I investigated you, but it didnt go through, you claim that the passive ability said nothing could target you. I think it was a slip up.

you are logical Glork (at least from what I have seen). sometimes the most simpliest case makes sense.

in this case, I think it is either you are lying or I am lying.

My only problem at this point is a.) why I got an innocent when I investigated you.

[curiouskarmadog]

well fuck if I know...I want to hear from others.

[curiouskarmadog]

or investigated

[curiouskarmadog]

Mod needs to start looking for a replacement mod, this game will not be done by 02/11.

[curiouskarmadog]

OK before the day ends....what is everyone's position on me providing the name of my last investigation?...of course, with the GF out there it is meaningless (for now).

[curiouskarmadog]

vote glork

...I think you are the GF (or something the like)

[curiouskarmadog]

well crap...so the Mod (big frown) messed up the night choices due alcohol entanglements (I am paraphrasing here). Apparently I should have received an innocent on one of my investigations and the other I should have received a “lack of result” on the other (Glork).

I don’t know if this affected anyone else’s vote on Glork, but I need to reread to see if it affects mine. This was one of the things (out of three) that I felt like Glork was lying about. As it turns out…he was telling the truth and I think it is important to know.

Unvote Glork

[curiouskarmadog]

well you can imagine my when I got the PM..

[curiouskarmadog]

vote rogueben

[curiouskarmadog]

Vote:CKD

He just voted Glork earlier this page, saying "I feel Glork is the GF"

after you finish reading that page read this one.

[curiouskarmadog]

well, my vote on Glork was because I felt he lied about 3 different issues (one of those being directly related to me). SO once the Mod sent me the PM, I found out that the issue directly related to me was actually a mod mistake and not a lie by Glork.

What I still dont understand is why the people he claims he targeted with a power have not recieved a power. It is not to enough to warrant my vote (yet). However, Rogueben's current and past play has been scummy...so I think some pressure should be added there.

[curiouskarmadog]

you think he is pro-town?

[curiouskarmadog]

IH, so you are calling me the cop while voting for me?

will provide my rogueben thoughts as time permits.

[curiouskarmadog]

I don't know where Glork's targets have gone, but it seems pretty obvious that Glork is either the Godfather or is town, and I'm leaning that if the mod forgot he had that choice, he'd forget Glork was the GF.

CKD, you have to have SOME reason you think Rogueben is scummy, or else you're just voting.

I have been leaning scum for Rogue for most of the game..I dont like his posts or votes...I think he might be new scum...I think it is interesting that most all game he jumps on what seems to be a bandwagon of the hour (when he posts), but now that Glork is the band wagon of the hour...he is pushing for the lynch of a lurker that has only posted 1-2 times the entire game. He also labels the Glork discussion as distracting, even thought Glork was the vote leader...THAT IS HARDLY DISTRACTING..I think lynching Rogueben might just give us some insight into the last bit of scum


ALSO, IH, again, you label me a cop but your vote is STILL on me..why is that?

[curiouskarmadog]

thin man needs to be replaced as do several others.

I am wondering if I should be putting effort into this game because a.) the Mod is leaving b.) there have been no mention of prods or replacements, and c.) no mention of back up mods.

[curiouskarmadog]

Meh, I forgot that CKD had claimed cop. = (

unvote

what?

Vote:CKD

He just voted Glork earlier this page, saying "I feel Glork is the GF"

2 and a half hours later you quote me where I actually talk about being a cop.

Same page, missed the one under it.

well crap...so the Mod (big frown) messed up the night choices due alcohol entanglements (I am paraphrasing here). Apparently I should have received an innocent on one of my investigations and the other I should have received a “lack of result” on the other (Glork).

I don’t know if this affected anyone else’s vote on Glork, but I need to reread to see if it affects mine. This was one of the things (out of three) that I felt like Glork was lying about. As it turns out…he was telling the truth and I think it is important to know.

Unvote Glork

But you said you would reread.

So why did you vote Rogueben? How much more does it affect your vote on Glork?

Unvote, vote IH

try again

[curiouskarmadog]

MOD are you going to replace people who need replacing?

are you looking for a backup mod or will you abandon?

[curiouskarmadog]

you quoted me where I talk about getting results

[curiouskarmadog]

Hi. I'm catching up soon.

Fritz has been posting in the signup thread though, CKD, so I don't think he is abandoning.

yeah I caught that yesterday..thats good to know

[curiouskarmadog]

IH, please explain to me how you didnt know I was the cop when 2 hours after you voted me you QUOTED me where I was discussing my investigations...

[curiouskarmadog]

what is 4?

and where is my underwear?

your thoughts on IH PJ?

[curiouskarmadog]

(yawn)

[curiouskarmadog]

last post by the mod was 01/07. I saw where he was asking for replacements last week, but nothing has come of that. less than 40% of the people in the game are actually posting....please someone tell me how this game isnt going to be abandoned.

[curiouskarmadog]

with only 4-5 people posting, why bother?

[curiouskarmadog]

so who do we need to PM to get a replacement Mod?

[curiouskarmadog]

thanks for trying, hope this game can be saved...going to take a lot of work.

[curiouskarmadog]

so seriously..is this game abandoned?

[curiouskarmadog]

fritz is posting here.

[curiouskarmadog]

And I have the setup, so I'm taking over the game. I'll have vote count and what not once I have lunch.

THANKS IAMMARS!!!

we also need a handful of replacements and just as many prods.

[curiouskarmadog]

I would be fine with an IH or Rogueben lynch

[curiouskarmadog]

I have faith in Iammers that he will turn this game around.

[curiouskarmadog]

thanks again Iammers...I have no problem seeing IH or Rogueben hang.....I am on the fence about Glork atm..., I feel that either of the 3 would give us solid information...

[curiouskarmadog]

ok?

IH then?

[curiouskarmadog]

hey guys, thanks for joining.

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yeah I got that, you have been saying that for sometime now..it has been noted and renoted...I also feel like Rogueben would be a good lynch too...and if my vote is needed...I will join the glork wagon...but right now...I am comfortable

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we could lynch undo... that would be funny.

Why?

I assume because you are only half way through the reread.

Mod: can we get a vote count?

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no one is going to lynch you today...keep reading.

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it has been stalled for the past month....Iammars saved it from being abandoned (I think), but we still need prods and more replacements I am assuming.

keep reading.

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undo, have you finished your reread yet?

I think this was covered once...I was "motivated" last night and received an additional investigation..so usually no, but last night I received two...one of which was Glork.

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I dont think anybody wanted to know...

it might be worth it to find it..I remember (I will have to dig to be sure) someone said they targetted me and someone else agreed that they saw them target me.

Now, i was attacked the first time I claimed my innocent target (from Ibby I think, was told it was a poor choice to do so)..are you asking me for it now? I dont have a problem providing it..like to hears others thoughts on the matter.

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Well, I think it might be worth noting and will provide help the conversation at this point. Especially because of something that Fritz posted close to the beginning of the day.

In addition to the last note you found from one Joshua Taylor, you find this:

"There is something that you all should know
I'm the one killing Sarcastro.
He thought he was good arguing with Blight
But as you can see, he's not right.
Oh, and I'm pretty Elmo

Glork and Ibby are good y'know."

and then you realize Sarc is dead. Sarc was death from Sandman, a vigilante.

Now I dont know who left the note, or if it was flavor or not.

but I investigated Ibby (who I thought was scum)...got an innocent on her..

what bothers me is this post (bolded).

I get "townie" claims on both Ibby and Glork and this is posted when sarc was killed...I assume this was a mod mistake (and not a day kill), but who knows, there at the end Fritz really was doing a half assed job with things. Why was that mentioned in this post by "Joshua"..and why does it say he is Elmo?

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Also Iammars, if you have the power, can you update the first page...trying to remember who replaced who.

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I'm going to do a whole bunch of updates either friday or this weekend. Sorry for the inconvience.

thanks man

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I am a cop..and I am sane given my Mos and Oman results.

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btw, I am still here..I am still in support of a IH lynch.

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I got my prod, but really there is nothing to answer or discuss...I think IH is scum, and his lack of defense is telling...I think Glork might be the GF but I am on the fence about it..

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that is -1 right?...lets finish this

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well, I have not received my investigation results nor have I been given a failure notice..I have PMed the mod and am waiting for a response....

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Got my investigation result...it was an innocent.

Glork, who did you target last night?

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Only one result? I wonder if undo ever bothered to read the game.

right, was going to ask about that..but just figured the mafia kill took place before his ability, if he even bothered?

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right, Ibby was the one that targetted the cop the first time, not undo...

also we dont know what takes place first, the kill or the motivation.

I would like to hear from Glork though.

Mod, we probably need a round of prods and update the first page (undo is dead).

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well, mafia RB was already offed, and I have never been in a game that each side had a RB

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for the sake of argument, what protown RB would target a claimed cop?

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I am pretty sure that in most games, the block goes through first, then target switchers (etc), then all other roles, then kills. I've never heard of someone not being able to complete their role because they were killed first. Maybe one of hte cop's investigations were blocked?

Killing actions are usually last, right? You'd have figured undo would have targeted CKD. I would have imagined that roleblocking a cop would mean they couldn't investigate at all, but perhaps that's not right. Um?

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sruffs, I dont think I understood much of your last post.

at any rate, people were discussing that I might have been blocked, I think that it is doubtful, for the reasons I stated like a.) dont think there are two RBs in this game and b.) what protown blocker would target the claimed cop.

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I am not down for lynching anyone until Glork answers my question.

[curiouskarmadog]

(bumping this game)

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not a clue, his other game he is modding is in need of him too

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We need to mod to prod though.

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before we lynch ANYONE...I want to hear from glork

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fuck, I dont think Iammars is coming back..he has been replaced in most of his games...this sucks..I blame Fritz.

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is there anyone we can contact to see?

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Hi all,

I have asked alko (the original back-up mod and reviewer) to take a look at this game and see whether it is salvageable. He's busy today but will get on to it tomorrow night.

Tal

thank you

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can we get Glork to answer my question now?

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many people havent showed up..

I dont want to lynch glork until he has showed, but or is replaced, though since the mod doesnt have night choices, it could be useless..

has glork (or anyone) been prodded?

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this is mostly is...but willingly to push through..wasted too much time in this game to let it go.

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still waiting on glork to respond..or a glork replacement..of course, am I to understand that the Mod doesnt have the night actions?

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IU don't rembemr buth about this game, but I do remever being suspiciouhhs of Skrugff so i will

bvote: Skruffs[/b[

I thin k I had reasonging at some p9itne but damned if I can rembember now.

By the way,. ckd should be abls to confurm tow people today so what do yiuy have for us ckdL?

why should I be able to confirm two?

I can "confirm" one..but with the GF out there, it is useless..

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ahh, well that is it..

vote Glork

..I think you are the GF

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good I was just thinking to myself, I wasnt in enough games with DGB and armlx

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Glork, I can not remember, do you know what the gift is when you send it?

do you know what you sent last night, gift wise?

unvote

for a moment.

Question for all, I have 0 experience with bus drivers, do they tend to be mafia or town?

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vote Glork

, I think we have an inventor, and Glork is not it.

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I recieved another ability last night, to be used tonight....it does not match with yours.

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Glork, I also find it interesting that you have no problem questioning why other abilities have not be seen until this point.

but you have a problem with people thinking you are lying because none of your abilities you have "given out" can be confirmed.

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there is every reason not to tell you what I received.

I will tell you tomorrow.

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Glork, how can I answer your question..how the fuck do I know?

All I know was that I recieved an extra ability last night..I thought maybe it might have been from you, and a bus driver or redirector gave it to me..but your claim does not match what I got last night.

Is there some other role that can give people a one shot ability that is not an inventor?

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also (for the whoel town) what is the over/under on my providing who I investigated last night?..I got an innocent....do you want to know, who?

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really that is the only reason I voted you?

when you mentioned the bus driver, i UNVOTED you because I thought I might be able to confirm you....

nice trying to skew facts.

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dodge, not going to tell you, but will tell you first thing tomorrow. Providing my ability will not confirm it (today) and only serves to inform mafia..why do you want to do that?

why is that bothering you so much?

You think that Glork is telling the truth?

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Interestingly enough, a mislynch also helps the scum. Avoiding that is in the town's best interests. Why are you refusing to reveal your info? You have no logical basis to do so.

Very interesting, once I tell you want it is/was, you will understand...and I will tell you first thing tomorrow...

CKD - Why did you wait so long to confirm having received an ability? Why did you not push Glork to claim the ability earlier?

I wanted to find out if Glork a.) targetted me last night and b.) what power he gave away. I thought I could confirm him. If I would have brought this information out BEFORE Glork said who he targetted then I could not believe the claim. As it stands, Glork claimed he gave his ability to SOMEONE else that cant confirm it.

Skruffs, the lack of a counterclaim should support my role. That's why I'm pressing the issue. Since there is and will not be a counterclaim, I'm even more confident that either my role is screwy, or that somebody has screwed with my role.

Glork, what are your thoughts about the fact that I was given a one shot ability last night that was not from you...am I lying? you are implying that..if you think I am lying, why are you not voting me?

CKD - Why did you wait so long to confirm having received an ability? Why did you not push Glork to claim the ability earlier?

because he's lying through his teeth, obviously. Or hiding something. That's why he refuses to claim exactly what he got.

again, if you think I am lying..why arent YOU voting me...Dodge, answer me this..why do you want to give the mafia so much information going into the night?

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"being an idiot" huh..

not one part of your claim is confirmable...actaully quite the opposite has occured (granted IH was the SK). And again, the person you claim you targetted last night can not confirm. I have been given a one shot ability, that does not match you claim...

but I am an idiot because I think you are lying...but if I believed that you could be an insane inventor, I am not an idiot...really? that is what you want to go with? Maybe I could believe a mafia redirector, but no one has claimed to have recieved any one shot abilities that match your time line. Also, if you really believed a redirector..why do you keep making a night action that can be redirected?

Glork, in my position, what would you believe? Seriously....what would you believe...

Dodge, you can blow it out your ass....I will tell you first thing tomorrow, and it can be confirmable. I have already let on too much that I have a fucking ability.."how can I be entirely sure it was not from him" I cant. I already tried to investigate him, but it failed. My one shot ability does not match the timeline and abilites he mentioned...you care to explain why?
I thought Glork was scum well before this occured..if you have a problem with it...vote me.

You are currently not voting me because you dont want to lynch all liars??? In your opinion what am I lying about and why? If that answer is because I am scum, then again explain why you are not voting me and why you think I am scum.

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jesus

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Ha..no it is a bread crumb (I do that on occasion)

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dodge, you want to ignore these questions...or just spout out more meaningless BS?

My one shot ability does not match the timeline and abilites he mentioned...you care to explain why?
I thought Glork was scum well before this occured..if you have a problem with it...vote me.

You are currently not voting me because you dont want to lynch all liars??? In your opinion what am I lying about and why? If that answer is because I am scum, then again explain why you are not voting me and why you think I am scum.

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But CKD says the JEsus was a breadcrumb, not a role claim.

I dont think I did.

So Haschel targeted me, I guess that makes since because you did comment on the fact that you thought I was the cop yesterday and that would confirm my lack of investigation on Glork. I guess I am confused why you targeted Glork with an inventor type role, when Glork claimed inventor.

Well, Dodge, any thoughts now or am I still lying through my teeth? Also interesting in what your buddy Glork has to say now, that we do have a counter claim

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well, dodge, if he had said it earlier, we couldnt have seen you make an ass out of yourself...Dodge, why are you sticking out your neck of Glork so much?

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of = for, but I think that was obvious

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well, dodge, if he had said it earlier, we couldnt have seen you make an ass out of yourself...Dodge, why are you sticking out your neck of Glork so much?

Why are you pushing so absolutely hard for his lynch? The

only

reason for a Glorklynch is role info. I want to make sure it's correct.

your thoughts on the two inventor type roles, then?