Three-Pronged Trouser God Mafia GAME OVER- Happy Ending?

[dramonic]

we're a gravedigger.

Noting this again in case it was missed.

We are a gravedigger, meaning we appear to have visited the dead to all investigatives.

~Wis

That makes zero sense.

Vote: Narcissus

meh. Regardless of whether Aneninen is scum or not, this dumbness feels real. Does anyone have experience with him?

Anen is an idiot, don't worry bout it.

[dramonic]

@Dramonic, a gravedigger is a miller to trackers and watchers.

Will catch up with the rest later.

source?

[dramonic]

Jaqen gets a pass for at least a few days just for the speech style.

He always posts like that, it's not a PR

okay.
1. our good friend dramonic was town in marquis's last pokemon upick. he faked a post restriction in that game. literally no reason to either.
3. why would we lynch him over letting a vig shoot him?

1. Yeah but I was actually trying to communicate nonetheless.
3. Don't rely on a vig to do a town's job.

@Sakura, leave the MoF reading to me please. Sonic Boom (my hydra with MS) is the best hydra I have.

Welp, we're all gonna die.

Ugh, so much nothing =_=

[dramonic]

Dram, are you going to fake a cop result again?

I dunno, are we speedwagonin someone who's V/LA again?

[dramonic]

Right, she wasn't caught up.
And she flipped

town

[dramonic]

Or we could lynch scum.

vote: narcissus

[dramonic]

For someone town you sure want to replicate a scenario that ended in a mislynch.

[dramonic]

*cricket*

unvote

I'll just be in the corner ._.

[dramonic]

This Jaqen/Gork thing is silly and sounds tvt.

TheIrishPope (4) - Profgessor Emotion, Gorkington, Titus, White Narcissus

...
Narcissus, if you agree with me, why are you voting TiP?

[dramonic]

btw in case it wasn't clear at the start we're a miller

It wasn't, where did you soft that?

~Wis

I said "Please dont judge me for my pathetic, white ass" I thought it was good enough to send the point but looked back, well clearly it didn't

As anyone told you you're fucking stupid?

[dramonic]

okay, slightly uncalled for, but how the fuck does that say "miller"

[dramonic]

Well, I'm convinced.

Vote: Saint

[dramonic]

There's no benefit to a self-watcher.

[dramonic]

*town benefit*

[dramonic]

There's no benefit to a self-watcher.

*town benefit*

I disagree. Self watch can make for the best and most insane gambits

Not in a game where everyone is a PR.

[dramonic]

You watched yourself twice in that game. Once you were redirected, which negates the "self" part regardless, the other time you got motivated.
I fail to see how this is useful information.

[dramonic]

pretty sure that meme would go "one's a sick duck, the other suck dick"

[dramonic]

This game is full of twits.
Why is this game full of twits?

So many people to lynch X_X
Gimme a votecount so i can know if I want to swap

[dramonic]

unvote

I have no idea what's going on this game.
Ill reread at some point.

[dramonic]

vote: pisskop

This looks fashionable.

[dramonic]

How in the world is pisskop still alive?
The fuck are you people jerking at.

[dramonic]

Seriously, I musta read like 10 posts total this game and it's still enough to lynch pisskop over.

[dramonic]

well, voided sounds town.
and pissy.

[dramonic]

been away for the weekend, catching up nao.

[dramonic]

Slow the fuck down princess, we have 2.5 guilties, a shared gun, Donald Trump and some mysterious farside flavor styling.

...

1. Oversoul needs to clarify if his vote is a read or a guilty

2. There is no way in hell a shared gun in a bastard game has no scum-control over it. We are leashing this shit.

3. see point 2.
4. CKD is a jerk :<
5. vc plox.

[dramonic]

Not a guilty Dram. I'm a chair remember. This may as well be though. Saint is Obvscum.

noted

Sigh, this is why i hate Bastard games.
I'm not gonna put any resistance anymore if MoF wants to lynch us based on a lie from the mod.
I'll help lynch Titus however

Vote: Titus

~Sakura

A bastard game doesn't mean every word is a lie. Stop fucking throwing a tantrum.

so ms, what is this "guilty" that isn't a cop, a tracker or a watcher?

you shouldnt mind outing what the result is since you want us lynched, no?

~Wis

I see zero intelligent reason to out the specifics of the role, unless it is obstructed by your gravedigger claim. The less info the scum has to work with, the better.

I dont understand why it is silly.

there is a result....it says guilty.

there is no reason to do anything else BUT lynch him...her. if she flips town...then we have an issue

guilties mean nothing in a game you know there are moderator lies.

~Wis

Not every word from the mod is a lie just because it's bastard.

Yo Void, stop and think about why I'd bring it up instead of just quoting and thinking I'm dumb.

If he used an action, then there's no proof he's sane.
If he used an action on himself for sanity purposes, then how does he have a guilty.

Gosh. I'm going back to work now.

WIFOM. Saying "I know im not an insane cop" doesnt mean "I know im sane". There are multiple other possibilities.

Take two: Stop fucking voting Titus until we've reached a consensus on the "vig" neighborhood. We need to leash that shit.

[dramonic]

But Titus, town can fake a guilty too.

@Curious

If you think I am being a distraction, then stop discussing the goddamn orgy! Sheesh!

Town would admit the guilty was fake here now though and still be as confident. Scum can't because then they lose me as a Mislynch. It's now or never.

Who wants to join my third party satanic masochism cult tonight?

WN, that is exactly how you catch seasoned scum. Look at Gundam Seed. Refused to vig my buddy. Look at We the Purple, refused to hydrate.

Players who don't consider the optimal path or refuse to take it after being shown it, moreoften than not, are scum. Sure is it possible Gork is town faking, yes. Outing his feedback message shouldn't do anything to help scum, but do a lot to help town.

P-edit: MoF would not claim a guilty on a gravedigger as tracker.

Omfg guys. Omfg.

Heres a suggestion.
In assumption that this game is multiball, how bout we lynch Hermit. He spams the fuck out of the thread and is useless distractions and deflections. Meanwhile, at night, scum will crosskill(each other if diff scumteams or just one if same)

Another weird possibility in addition to sanity as I think WN is town. Alien psychotrooper?

Who wants to join my third party satanic masochism cult tonight?

I would rather join a cult than deal with this town of derps that don't know what a bastard game is. u.u (still haven't finished reading)

~Sakura

we lynch titus and we vig WN.

what the fuck are we waiting for? screw the orgy. just post racy pictures.

WN, vote Hermit with me. Jaquen, at worst, will get rid of problematic bullshitters. If he was a horrible/scum vig he would have shot me last night.

WN you keep defending Titus but you aren't voting anyone else so it really just looks like you don't care who's lynched and want to get your scumbuddy out of a tough situation.

I'm not even going to try to defend against that, because.... you guessed it! hydra dissonance again:

Sigh, this is why i hate Bastard games.
I'm not gonna put any resistance anymore if MoF wants to lynch us based on a lie from the mod.
I'll help lynch Titus however

Vote: Titus

~Sakura

Either case i don't know why Wisdom thinks Titus is town, I was fairly convinced she was town yesterday, but I know MoF's guilty on me is bollocks so im more willing to believe Gork's guilty on Titus being correct.

~Sakura

if i had any real scumreads id vote

i said what lynches id like to see

~Wis

titus doesn't go for Titus

for TIP*

Another fresh example is you calling me Titus's scumbuddy because I am not buying the guilty on her. You don't stop to think that I as her scumbuddy would have much more to gain by bussing her, first of all. And if I really wanted to save her, I would actually do what you accused me of not doing, push other people and make them look as prettier lynches than Titus. You just take what's on the surface, someone objecting to lynching a guilty, and saying that makes them scumbuddies. That's what you being shallow is.

~Wis

I don't recall Wisdom ever wanting a policy lynch, only Sakura Or is just implied he does too because it's a hydra? Like I don't remember him stating that at all.

And yeah I would still not be surprised if there were cops with weird sanities itg but I am fairly certain given Titus' play today that she is scum. I still think you're scummy but less so. Lynching Titus and vigging you would help us figure out these sanities.

Scumbuddy is a term I usually use jokingly when someone buddies someone I'm scumreading. Hence the term!

[dramonic]

Agh, Mod please delete above post

But Titus, town can fake a guilty too.

@Curious

If you think I am being a distraction, then stop discussing the goddamn orgy! Sheesh!

Town would admit the guilty was fake here now though and still be as confident. Scum can't because then they lose me as a Mislynch. It's now or never.

It's precious that you think scum would need a guilty to mislynch you. Your scumplay is literally more protown than your townplay.

Who wants to join my third party satanic masochism cult tonight?

Can you also had a self-silencing close?
kthx.

Players who don't consider the optimal path or refuse to take it after being shown it, moreoften than not, are scum. Sure is it possible Gork is town faking, yes. Outing his feedback message shouldn't do anything to help scum, but do a lot to help town.

Agree with the former, except knowing the specifics of the investigation is much more useful to scum than town, so your point has no ground.

In assumption that this game is multiball, how bout we lynch Hermit. He spams the fuck out of the thread and is useless distractions and deflections. Meanwhile, at night, scum will crosskill(each other if diff scumteams or just one if same)

That's an incredibly optimistic approach to nightkill prediction. Scum wouldn't even have insentive to shoot each other, they can just wait for the town to lynch the guilty and get a free shot instead.

Another weird possibility in addition to sanity as I think WN is town. Alien psychotrooper?

There's also the possibility of redirector, tailor, framer, nexus, lightning rod, bus driver and rubber chicken. But sure,

alien psychotrooper

.
And you wonder why you get vigged night 1 so often.

Who wants to join my third party satanic masochism cult tonight?

I would rather join a cult than deal with this town of derps that don't know what a bastard game is. u.u (still haven't finished reading)

~Sakura

You seem to have a very twisted idea of what a bastard mod game is.

we lynch titus and we vig WN.

what the fuck are we waiting for? screw the orgy. just post racy pictures.

Assuming the vig is reliable.
Actually

@Jaqen:

Do you lose your vig if your partner dies, or do you keep it. If the latter, does your role name make it obvious that you're part of a vig team, or is it not mentionned. Last question, do you have to agree or does whichever of you submit gets to choose secretly and you hope its what was agreed?

WN, vote Hermit with me. Jaquen, at worst, will get rid of problematic bullshitters. If he was a horrible/scum vig he would have shot me last night.

You're always a good vig shot Titus.

always

.

WN you keep defending Titus but you aren't voting anyone else so it really just looks like you don't care who's lynched and want to get your scumbuddy out of a tough situation.

I'm not even going to try to defend against that, because.... you guessed it! hydra dissonance again:
~Sakura

Any chance you can get your shit together before the end of times?

if i had any real scumreads id vote

i said what lynches id like to see

~Wis

You listed lurkers. That's pretty compelling.

titus doesn't go for Titus

for TIP*

I could see Titus going for Titus actually.

You don't stop to think that I as her scumbuddy would have much more to gain by bussing her, first of all.

~Wis

Not with a guilty on you.

Scumbuddy is a term I usually use jokingly when someone buddies someone I'm scumreading. Hence the term!

*BANG*

[dramonic]

There's also the possibility of redirector, tailor, framer, nexus, lightning rod, bus driver and rubber chicken. But sure, alien psychotrooper.

those others don't explain two guilties on town. well, except lightning rod but two people dying makes that impossible

~Wis

While I'm glad to see you two are on cloud 69, I still see no reason to doubt both guilties.

[dramonic]

scum don't fucking claim a godfather ffs

just like scum don't claim what Saint is claiming

~Wis

Yeah no.
You're very, very wrong in this instance.

[dramonic]

Gork refused to claim his feedback for the guilty. Why? Because it is fake.

I would ask if you're familiar with the concept of "proscum claim", but I already know the answer to that.

[dramonic]

Woah, look at that assumption! :O

[dramonic]

It's like the only investigative role that exists is cop!
INCREDIBLE!

[dramonic]

How I wish there were other investigative roles that existed, that would solve this sanity conundrum!

[dramonic]

They claimed GUILTIES.
I dont believe either claimed COP?

[dramonic]

Ill give you Gork (although not for that post specifically), but MoF could say that as a taunt, while being a cmpletely different type of investigator, so i disagree on that one.

[dramonic]

what else is there? they also admitted to not being tracker or watcher (which wouldn't have a guilty anyway given our role)?

shos also described they got a message we are a guilty and it wasn't random.

~Wis

How would I know, I dont have their role. Gunsmith, paranormal investigators and FBI agents also get guilties. Im sure TPTG cooked up something pleasant.

ftr I interpret "negative" like Titus did (inno)

~Wis

I interpret negative as "immediately ask the mod because that's nebulous as fuck"


EDIT: That doesnt sound like a cop investigation. It doesn't even sound like he investigated.

[dramonic]

Scum, don't kill CKD.
I wanna play with him even though he's a jerk :<

[dramonic]

ill be in my bunk

[dramonic]

I want a dram lynch

Over anything, wow

is this mara or mastin?

[dramonic]

Yo Jaqen, stop ignoring me.

[dramonic]

vote:titus

[dramonic]

@jaqen: I asked three questions and you answered one. Try again.

[dramonic]

...wat?

[dramonic]

Ok. So a guy who always investigates guilty is on the scum team? That sounds like a weakness to the scum team. I honestly don't know what to make of Titus flip because the write-up gives me thoughts that she could have been on either side town or scum. I say that solely on my experience with one of the mods AND the fact that the wrong place wrong time modifier from greater idea mafia is attached to a townie.

It's not a weakness, scum investigating as scum is pretty normal <_<
Also the flip would be green for a town universal miller. Millers flip town.

Death miller?

~Sakura

Death millers don't flip miller.
How (was) this a subject of conversation.

I think universal miller means "tracked to kill, seen visiting dead person by the watcher, fbi guilty, gunsmith guilty, cop guilty, etc"

^

lol.
im pretty sure i got a false positive on titus.
would be happy if that was the case.

Why? You're a cop on scum, it's not exactly rocket science.
Also night result?

"hey guys my scummate died. im gonna pretend like they were town for no reason and draw attention to myself and be rude as heck to a guy who put her down because thats textbook scumplay right!?!?"
fresh is a weird person for anyone to be pushing hard as scum right now imo.

That's pretty much the reasoning That WN was using to call Titus town. Too scummy for scum is stupid.

^ That's me confirming his N1 result btw

Pray tell, what sort of millery stuff did you learn?

Vote: Spiffeh

Someone explain the Saint/Xtoxm wagons to me?

@Xtoxm: You say you got no Night 2 result. You got no result, or your target didn't visit?

[dramonic]

Because you claimed miller D3.
I'm not buying it.

[dramonic]

You're right, that would pretty much tell the self-watcher who the vanillaizer is.

~Sakura

@Gork: Stalker is watcher+tracker, usually. Alternatively, it can be someone who knows the type of action used, but not the target.\

unvote
vote: Saint

I missed the self-watcher claim, but he would know who vanillaized him then.

[dramonic]

It has a lot more scum utility than town utility.

^
There was a scum self-watcher in the bastard game I modded, back in like 2011 or something.
fwiw

[dramonic]

You guys need to use more adjusted roles <_<

Triggered Actions

Some roles might take actions that are triggered by other actions. For example, a Paranoid Gun Owner will kill if targeted by an action. Resolve triggered actions along with the regular actions, using the golden rule as normal.

Any action which triggers when a player is targeted should "go off" between steps 1 and 2 of the Golden Rule,before resolving the action that triggers it

. When that happens, stop and go back to step 1, this time considering the triggered action as well.

You can't vanillaize a self-watcher before he catches you. Saint is lying.

[dramonic]

theres literally 1 living female slot. overzeaklous much?

[dramonic]

Am I really the only one who thinks Defunded sounds a lot more like Trump than Bible Thumped?

[dramonic]

Are you titus?
That sounds like a titus thing to say.

[dramonic]

oF - are one of you not reading or something? We've asked you what the results of our investigate were and you responded but then asked if we sent it to you."

@imperium:
Are you saying that you copped WN knowingly again and sent it to us again? Ill answer later.

PEOPLE. SERIOUSLY. SKIM HERMIT'S ISO.

The first to quote 250 fluff posts/fake claims/fake orgy/distractiins from the game wins!

That`s more white noise than anything else tho.
You have multiple people who are suspicious (Saint, Spiffeh, Jaqen`s mystery mate, WN

who you have a guilty on

) and you wanna lynch the sapmmer.

What happened with that guilty and SHOS GET IN HERE post anyways?

[dramonic]

EBWOP: it was MS GET IN HERE, but point stands.
da fuck is up with that?

[dramonic]

unvote

Still waiting on MoF/IMP.

[dramonic]

Fuck
No

If you wanna roleplay, get the fuck out of the game.

[dramonic]

...I'm not the only one who sees he's obviously scum BSing right?

EDIT: he being Jaqen.

[dramonic]

...
Giving a gun to fresh and jaqen.
The Trouser Gods are fucking evil.

[dramonic]

most obvious S1-S2 neighbors since CEBC

[dramonic]

In my opinion, that'd make this dual gun of ours either both town or both scum of different factions.

this is a slip

~Wis

Dude.
Did you really need that post to determine that Jaqen and Fresh are both scum?

Btw if we believe that the Aliens only have one NK in this game, wouldn't it make sense if one of them had partial control over the vig?

Why would we believe only one shot?

[dramonic]

dram Jaqen is not scum, ffs.

~Wis

Neither was titus WN

[dramonic]

I'd still prefer to lynch Saint today.

same

~Wis

[dramonic]

Jaqen isnt a hydra though?
Is he?

[dramonic]

Vote: Saint

dumb

[dramonic]

You deserve this Wisdom.
You tried to interact with Constantine.

@Jaqen: You're aware that this is not Greater Idea Mafia right?

[dramonic]

It's very obviously a portmanteau of Edward, Bella and Christian Grey, the three most swoony characters to this generation of middle-aged housewives.

[dramonic]

It is obvious, you're just brain-damaged.

[dramonic]

Is english not your first language constantine?

[dramonic]

im pretty sure when Saint flips scum we can safely assume Constantine is a buddy.
Why be so obvious, that's the question.

[dramonic]

Lynching WN today, vigging Saint tonight. Tommorow we enter the game without being distracted by either wagon

have you already prepared your speech for why your vig will fail tonight, or are you waiting for that first?

[dramonic]

yes void, because it's visible chainsawing.

[dramonic]

well not chainsawing.
But if Constantine REALLY thought Saint was scum, hed vote him.

[dramonic]

vote: spiffeh

Baby dont lie.

[dramonic]

Wait no.

unvote

[dramonic]

@jaqen: list of Fresh's QT reticences please.

[dramonic]

Slobberknocker- Wally the Window-Peeper - Wrong Place at Wrong Time Commune Guy Bible Thumped Night 3.

Yo Bacde, pay attention mate.

[dramonic]

Also Jaqen just claimed scum, so that's cool I guess?

[dramonic]

Imp claimed even night amnesiac cop iirc

vote: Imp

[dramonic]

Also Jaqen just claimed scum, so that's cool I guess?

he claimed absolute usurper, so...

[dramonic]

Hence that whole "town redirectors need to claim"; wanted to see if anyone forced us to kill slobberknocker or something like that

youd think a redirector wouldnt make you

kill

your target.

[dramonic]

Hence that whole "town redirectors need to claim"; wanted to see

if anyone forced us to kill slobberknocker

or something like that

youd think a redirector wouldnt make you

kill

your target.

She said they visited them didn't she? I didn't see anywhere that said they killed anyone. You're advocating pushing a quick lynch on what's essentially a tracker/watcher result. Nope.

VOTE: Dramonic

Imp is admitting to the kill. Are you illiterate?

[dramonic]

That's what a watch result is Imp...

[dramonic]

jaqens pretty town.

k just quit.

[dramonic]

BUT it still doesn't explain how Slobber died. It does make Ninja more likely, and Jaqen's pet theory (though not by much), but unless scum-DGB and his partners are trying a gambit to get rid of you (scum1 redirects you to slobber, scum2 ninja kills slobber, scum-DGB says he "watched" you kill slobber or something), how does that kill make ANY sense?!

So either scum redirected us, a claimed even night amnesiac cop, to slobber and then someone just happened to watch SLOBBERKNOCKER (do you understand how ridiculous someone watching slobberknocker is? i cannot emphasize this enough.) ooorrr it was coordinated and a frame job

And ignoring my question. And to now add to it- you don't find it odd

at all

that DGB

did

target slobber knocker of all people? You know, along with the odd coincidence she was able to watch you target Slob (after you were redirected to him none the less), comes in saying you targetted him last night and nothing else (not even a vote to go along with what she implied), and then sits back keeping mum while you're almost lynched. Yep. Nothing at all weird about those events...

VOTE: DGB

Oh hey look it's Imp's buddy.

[dramonic]

@Gork: Say what you want, my charades were pretty good >:/

[dramonic]

Wait-oh, Farside.
There's an investigation on me: Not Alien.
The SK, WhiteNarcissus is out.
The only Nightkill at Night2 was a Bible Thumping and it's clear that I couldn't perform that one.
If we put these together we get that there's a very little chance for me being a scum.
And for everyone's information, I'm town.
So is Farside, anyway.

That provides quite literally zero reason for you not being a blocked defunder.

what did spiffeh ever do that was townie was there something on like d1 or d2?

nothing besides claiming.

Still think we should lynch imp. Dat reaction was textbook caught scum

[dramonic]

I disagree with the latter.
Imp and Jaqen are both outed scum, Xoxtm is not.

Vote: Bacde

[dramonic]

Because Fresh flipped scum.
Im so glad you're paying attention.

[dramonic]

I disagree with the latter.
Imp and Jaqen are both outed scum, Xoxtm is not.

Vote: Bacde

Why are you not voting outted scum????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I am.
You are too, "vanilla cop".

[dramonic]

I am far more inclined to think that blocked him from killing as opposed to stopping a kill on an effective VT.

[dramonic]

like,
"oh man jaqen is scum jaqen is scum jaqen is scum" is such a logical train of thought for town to have when there are two kinds of nightkills unaccounted for beyond "gunned down".

You coulda just said you're not reading the game.
It would make you look like less of an idiot.

[dramonic]

jailing only protects from kills, not night actions in general.

[dramonic]

okay lets talk.
about jaqen.
because apparently this is a thing that needs to be talked about.
1. jaqen came forward with the vig claim with fresh. if jaqen is scum, then he would likely be scum with fresh, correct?
1a if jaqen is 'pruddite' then why would he, as scum, claim to be a vig-duo, effectively making him a target for a potential actual vigilante in the game and drawing attention to himself and fresh by doing so.
1b if jaqen isnt scum with fresh, then you have to believe that he is on a scumteam which effectively has access to two nightkills.
2. there were NO nightkills last night.
given how scary a vig is and the amount ive been trying to push jaqen as town, do you not think its a lot more likely that scum shot jaqen?
3. worst case scenario with jaqen is that we leash him and if anyone dies from "gunned down" flavor that we didnt say he could shoot then hes clearly scum and we lynch him.

1.

100% wrong. He'd be opposite scum. Look at Fresh's flip. Look at it again. Look at it a third time if you have to.

Pruddite Vigilante Neighbor

1a

Cuz he's legitimately a modified vig. Unless there are multiple vigs, that's not something to be scared of. Furthermore he doesn't have to fear scum retribution cuz he IS scum.

1b

It's a share nightkill, as they've both said about 6 times at this point. If he has to dispute the nightkill with Fresh he's not "scum with two nightkill", he's "scum negotiating a second kill" with someone of a different alignment.

2

Gunned Down can't happen anymore, Defunded is probably blocked scum-jaqen. There's only one kill unaccounted for, unless you wanna count the anally probed thing or whatever which has yet to happen.

3

See point 1b.

Seriously...

[dramonic]

1b It's a share nightkill, as they've both said about 6 times at this point. If he has to dispute the nightkill with Fresh he's not "scum with two nightkill", he's "scum negotiating a second kill" with someone of a different alignment.

Question: Why does the distinction matter?

2 Gunned Down can't happen anymore, Defunded is probably blocked scum-jaqen. There's only one kill unaccounted for, unless you wanna count the anally probed thing or whatever which has yet to happen.

Could equally be protected Jaqen-town .

Well, the distinction is that one or the other can refuse to shoot a target they don't like. A shared vig shot is sorta the same as a mini lynch vote.
And in a town full of PR, as scum, would you shoot the one who's essentially vanilla at this point?

[dramonic]

You've been part of a scum lynch on your buddy. Good job champion.
Fresh and WN are irrelevant results, they're not your alignment anyways.

[dramonic]

Gasp, I'm calling you not scum with

your flipped neighbour

and

the flipped SK

SCANDALOUS!

Vote: Jaqen

This is much more damning than everything else we have right now.

[dramonic]

Gasp, I'm calling you not scum with

your flipped neighbour

and

the flipped SK

SCANDALOUS!

Vote: Jaqen

This is much more damning than everything else we have right now.

^ "Let me ignore the plentiful information and evidence against others and instead vote for someone because they suspect me."

More like it's a reflection of Fresh's obstinant refusal to vig Dramonic coupled with Dramonic's constant push to get rid of me knowing Fresh slipped in our PT. I'll try to get around to making public all the private thoughts of Fresh when I get off work at midnight.

It sure took you a long time to vote me since Fresh "slipped"

[dramonic]

Why is jaqen not lynched yet?
Do you guys need him to claim scum in thread or something?

[dramonic]

Why would you give your result to one of your scumread?

[dramonic]

I'm thinking that's how your role works. It's the only way getting a pamphlet from you and then xtoxm, having well seen that I received one, claiming you didn't visit anyone. I mean, that's a shit claim from him in respect to his role and actions whil facing almost certain death today otherwise and I don't think he's a shit player.

It's a shit claim, it makes no sense, it contradicts your result, but you're not gonna vote him for it.

People, explain this to me. Explain why this is alive.

[dramonic]

... That's exactly my point.
He should be voting Xtoxm.

[dramonic]

@ Imp - Look, I don't know what happened to you. I don't condone abuse and if someone victimized you, they should face the consequences. Take it up with them. But since I've posted a case on you, you've been screaming "vendetta," putting my name in quotes, and telling me I'm someone else you know. I thought you were scum posting bullshitting as a way to undermine my case on you but you probably actually believe it regardless of your alignment.

AAAAAHHHHHHH

I don't want to go over this over and over and over again. But It was taken up with them. Months ago, that person was banned, and you have the exact same fucking playstyle and the exact same wording and seem to be fulfilling the same threat. My back is up; i feel like my game is ruined. If you're not him, read smite and then if you think I'm paranoid for no reason, talk to me.

Having had sorta the inside-track on this situation (sorta), I think you're panicking/projecting here. Warped doesn't really sound like F16.
He feels sharp whereas F16 was more... blunt force trauma or something.

[dramonic]

Still don't get how Jaqen is voting for a possible slip over someone who is confirmed scum to him.

You keep pushing this dichotomy between Jaqen and Xtoxm and claiming "confirmed scum" like it is some sort of universally agreed upon thing.

It is, but people are really,

really

slow.

[dramonic]

Call me an idiot, but I can see no universe here Spiffeh or Jaqen are scum in. And I doubt Imperium is scum.

This is me calling you an idiot.

[dramonic]

The apathy is real.

vote: Xtoxm

[dramonic]

So, whose claim contradicted xtotm again?

Alsp gork is hilariously town

Imp's.

Jaqen's does as well:

Jaqen you confirmed you got a result from Imperium about Voided right?

Doesn't that mean you know Xtoxm is lying about no one targeting Voided last night?

Imp claims to have targetted Voided and sent the result to Jaqen
Jaqen confirms this
Xtoxm denies this

Is what we have.

[dramonic]

vote: Imperium

Frankly I think all three are scum <_<

[dramonic]

Assuming that face means what it means, the third is voided, not xtoxm.

[dramonic]

They're all scum, nuke em from orbit.

[dramonic]

...

Are you trusting your result from the person you're voting? <<

[dramonic]

Oh, so now you're saying people are receiving results and Imp decided to say those were from him.

really?

[dramonic]

Oh, so now you're saying people are receiving results and Imp decided to say those were from him.

really?

When have I ever side anything contrary to that?

. . .
What are you on and can I have some wholesales?

[dramonic]

That's exactly what my 5233 was a response to...

[dramonic]

The fact the information is relayed by the mod doesn't change the fact it's produced by Imperium. On the premise that he flips scum, that information is WIFOM.

[dramonic]

Can you give us an update on who youve got cleared so far?

[dramonic]

i think they alternated on who got to make the kill from what i understand?

they said multiple times that they had to agree and both submit the same kill each night.

Also if you can make a compelling argument about why we got zero kills on the night Jaquen, by then a completely harmless townie from a scum perspective, got roleblocked by Farside, MAYBE I'll take your townread on him more seriously.

Vote: Voided

L-2

[dramonic]

N1 - Misaka is not an Anal Alien
N2 - dramonic is not an Anal Alien
N3 - Aneninen is not an Anal Alien
N4 - Tried to target Oversoul but I had to submit my action on D4 fsr and my result was that I didn't follow directions (even though I did submit during the day) and the Trouser God wasn't pleased w/ me ???
N5 - Jaqen is not an Anal Alien
N6 - Warped is not an Anal Alien

I stopped believing they existed by like N4

Agreedo, although I'm thinking maybe try a shot at Hermit considering he's been changing his claim every day.
ya know, just in case.

[dramonic]

What have you done besides the coroner exactly?

[dramonic]

cmon gork
cmon
indulge me bby

You can see this is Jaqen defending his buddy.

He had NO INVESTIGATIVE POWER
We literally have a coroner result saying "the results he sent were made up"

like cmon people, do you REALLY wanna argue about jaqen being town?

[dramonic]

what no
I'm saying jaqen is voided's buddy <_<

[dramonic]

he wants to lynch warped because "the investigation is legit"
he wants to keep voided alive because "the investigation is a frame"

OH RLY?

[dramonic]

I'm not following results scum admittedly made up to mislynch someone.

I already made it clear that I was coming for Warped today based on Imp's odd night investigation

:/

[dramonic]

So you're saying he thinks Imp made up investigation result A, but gave out a real investigation result B?
That seems

plausible

to you?

[dramonic]

Except there are other pieces of evidence that incriminate Voided.

[dramonic]

Im sorta inclined to wait til after we lynch the two outted scum before massclaiming, but ymmv.

EDIT: I would say you're a somewhat unlikely kill due to your vanillaization, but scum DID kill Misaka so...

[dramonic]

I think Scum-town would really fuck over the non-vig scumteam harder than S1-S2 does the town.

[dramonic]

b. someone gives me a rundown of the gamestate

There were no kills on the night Voided was blocked, there were no kills on the night Jaqen was blocked, Imp who now flipped scribe sent a guilty on Warped to Jaqen.
I think that sums up the important stuff? I'd try to explain Constantine but you're better off ISOing him, it's a shitstorm.

Also OS claimed to be a chair, but I think that's it.

[dramonic]

his fakeclaim isn't read

he wants to catchup first.

[dramonic]

*ready

[dramonic]

You roleblocked Misaka N4, no kill happens and you don't call her out on it?
REALLY?

Hammer this cutie.

[dramonic]

We've been missing multiple kills, I call BS on that.

[dramonic]

Oh, your theory is that Jaqen scum tried to shoot and got shot at by the opposite scumteam.
Of course, that makes complete sense.
. . .
<_<

[dramonic]

Or that both scumteams shot at Jaqen.
Dem theories tho

[dramonic]

lol
GORK INCRIMINATES HIMSELF!
:p

[dramonic]

Holy shit batman 20 ninja.

Const, dont waste rolecop jaqen. His role is probably the exact same as Fresh's
either cop him, or rolecop someone else.

[dramonic]

Oh man, I'd forgotten you also claimed absolute usurper.

[dramonic]

Good job Jaquen. You didn't win, but you gave it one hell of a shot. Given the odds against you, it was good you survived that long. The setup pretty much confirmed you as scum six ways from Sunday. I'll have more to say later after I'm done mourning the loss of my Cowboys.

Thanks! I really appreciate that. The scum Red Thread will show how hard I worked, even if it wasn't too evident here.

Dramonic- Why wouldn't you get off your death tunnel? It appeared Imp picked up on that I was genuinely wanting to work together to a co-win. Their outro said that much. The only reason I killed you was because you wouldn't find a reason to get off it. I knew you were other team since maybe the end of D1, definitely D2, and tried to ignore you while after Fresh was redirected to (I wanted to no kill that night) sending out my desire to work together as a huge scum team with three kills.

I wanted to lynch you on the day you shot me. I woulda gotten away with it too, considering the claim you did

im still proud of my play/reads overall this game.
even if i got carried to mylo on a bad read. q.q

>:(

[dramonic]

<3
I still wouldn't have brought you to endgame. Spiffeh and Anen, prolly.

[dramonic]

It concerns me that both scumteam were immediately "your neighbor is on the other team" but the entire town seemed adamant about that being unlikely <_<

[dramonic]

@Wisdom: post flip it shoulda been obvious.
@Jaqen: Were they multiball? What games?