STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Drixx]

EbWoP: #168 is the post that Flum appears to be pretending to be offended by, not the #160 I mistakenly put in in the prior post.

Love, still,
Drixx

[Drixx]

Maxwell has 24 hours to claim or he should be lynched. I've told him so in our alliance. @Cerberus, please pick this up into the hydra.

[Drixx]

The post wasn't aimed at you Sonic. Second intercession by TW interrupting first Cerberus questioning Sonic and then me pushing him for a reaction ... noted. Hrm...

[Drixx]

I'm not. Mastina may have scum read Maxwell, but she didn't vote him. Scum buddies often do this to each other to appear town.

The next person to blatantly ignore that there was a request for the lynch to be held until something was done in an alliance chat and try to use that as a reason to go after someone is not going to like me after I get done ripping them a new one.

[Drixx]

I'm sure Cerberus will pick up these two posts and attest to the fact that I'm a 25 on a scale of 1 to 10 in grumpiness today. Make scummy posts at your peril. I've got the gloves off and I'm drinking scotch; we might be in for a bumpy ride.

[Drixx]

The "personal stuff" thing just doesn't fly. The scum team wasn't magically composed of 5 people who all knew each other intimately before the game started. It's a lame excuse and I'm sorry but yeah ... people being able to grow as players is an important part of why this site exists. If you can say something to the random group of people you got assigned to a scum team with, then you can say it to the random group of people who signed up for the game. Or ... how about you find some place else to say it if it's really super personal? Or how about you ask the game mod to redact it? It would be helpful to people who have

never

been assigned as scum to see how people play as scum on the site, only scum teams are always super secretive.

As follows was the post I had in draft. I was going to edit it and tone it down, but people have already told each other to fuck off.

Also, Fro99er; you got a set of balls on you talking about sore loser. How about you kiss Grapes' ass for stealing defeat from the jaws of victory? We nailed your best players. Caught their slips and nailed them to the wall, and we had a guaranteed win until one town player decided to fuck it up. You should be on your knees literally kissing his ass right now instead of talking shit to someone about being a sore loser.

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Thoughts:

1.) I'm super tired of people who talk shit or say things they are afraid for other people to see, and then hide behind "Please don't release the PT". If you say it, own it. Cerb and I are releasing our raw conversations because they might be helpeful or enjoyable. People who aren't on the scum team are obviously going to be curious about the scum team's thoughts and decisions and such, and every time I see that "Scum has requested it not be released" I know that someone couldn't keep themselves from saying something they are now ashamed of. The other alternative being someone has a gigantic ego and doesn't want their scumplay seen because that might get them caught later. But ... I would bet a significant sum that it is being withheld because someone said something they now don't want someone else to see.

2.) Varsoon - Your game was broken. Unknowingly, Cerb and I signed up to have our time wasted and be randomly murdered 2 months in, except absurd "luck" intervened and it became 3+ months instead. Also, you basically mod confirmed Mastin's claim, and when she did the right thing and pointed it out so she could be mod killed, you tried to pass it off as if you hadn't. From that moment on we didn't at all consider Mastin because it was obvious. Always remember that you know everything and the players (especially on town) know almost nothing. Be super careful what you reply to and how. It's stupidly easy to accidentally confirm someone's claim.

3.) Grapes - The scum team has you to thank for their win. We worked our asses off (as will be seen by anyone who views our hydra PT) and got the town into an impossible to lose position. We had to lynch you because of the Miller claim (which you pointed out yourself) and our lynch order at that time was stated as (Grapes, Xtoxm, Constantine) with Constantine as last because he had a cop clear. You cost us the mislynch margin when you bizarrely just ended the day by lynching someone we had shown you was town, and ultimately cost us the game because we lost the margin needed and had to decide with only Xtoxm's freaking 73 posts to work with. Go take your place on the scum team mate ... they owe you the win.

4.) I'm sure I'll have more thoughts later.

[Drixx]

No, I'm not a sore loser. I hate the simple fact that I've wasted a year on this site, and have yet to actually see how ANYONE approaches the game as scum. I enjoyed playing with the people, within the confines of the game, but I loathe your decision to share x personal facts within the pt, such that othersw will be denied access to it on that basis, when THERE ARE AN INCREDIBLY LARGE NUMBER OF WAYS FOR YOU TO TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT PERSONAL STUFF WITHOUT FUCKING WITH MY GROWTH AS A PLAYER.

That's all. good job otherwise.

Oh, and titus, it's really sucky that this was a perfect opportunity for you to actually discuss your vca method with us but it was foiled by getting the wrong role..

Well every other time I've ever rolled scum I released the scum PT.
I'm sorry you've had a bad experience but I'm not releasing this one and I wish you'd be a bit more undertanding. But You do you.

Good game.

If something in there that was personal was said is

really

the reason, then logically it makes sense to take up Varsoon's offer to redact the personal stuff and then everyone's in good shape. Nobody has something personal shared where they don't want it, and the town side can learn from the scum side.

The odds are low to be assigned as scum, and people go

years

sometimes between being scum. There's a reason they want to read the PT, and it's not because they want to see someone's personal posts.

In the 110ish games I played on another site before coming here, I rolled scum 3 times. Some people just have that luck and never ever get to play as scum. I have three completed scum games on site here, but I replaced into two of them (and won both). The one I started fresh, I thought someone was the SK and pushed for their lynch and the real SK wasn't having me stick around to keep looking for the SK and killed me night one. That player came down to a LYLO spot before losing. Nearly pulled off an SK game, which was pretty impressive to watch, even more so because he killed like 3 or 4 of the scum team. Guy was on top of it.

[Drixx]

I am willing to talk at length privately or publicly.

I feel many of the town roles were op for scum not having a roleblocker or strongman vanillaizer. NicCage and RR, if they were aware of each other and playing optimally could have aligned every night and made a near impenetrable circle of protection. The emotion behind the rant was genuine and we also had issue with the fake claims obviously.

Giving my fake flavor to Ricastle and him saying ZOMG you're scum was really frustrating and forced us to kill him. At least I got partial info out of Ricastle.

4 masons, 3 double voters, reviving watcher, cop, rolecop, lie detector, roleblocker that can be confirmable, mass commuter, dayvig, redirector, and an innocent child that's partially unkillable. Real real frustration there.

You feel that way, but you do realize this would have been a very fast and brutal dismantling of the town by the scum team if you hadn't made that slip, right?

Neither of us caught it on the first read, either. We thought you were referring to Sonic getting his Gladiate refilled twice instead of saying he would get the

refiller ability

AND get the gladiate refilled. Once we realized you were saying both things, we had a really long talk and quite a lot of work went into concluding that you were scum based upon that slip.

We got Sonic on the false premise that our beach buddies neighborhood wouldn't have scum in it, as that would be broken (*Glares at Varsoon*) and would have meant whomever was assigned Steven had basically signed up to waste their time for 2 months anticipating being able to conftown and become Innnocent Child, only to be strongman murdered in the night phase before they could do so. If this game were somehow played 100 times concurrently, around 75% of the time or so, Steven would be killed just before he could trigger his IC. That's really bad design and would piss off every person assigned that role.

And since our protect was pretty limited, we couldn't have just kept nic around forever. We do feel like since we had to arrange alliances publicly, scum was able to stop us being allied and because we weren't allied we couldn't protect Nic when he got killed near the end. Since Xtoxm was godfather (seriously?), we don't think he killed KC out of cop fear, but instead to stop us being allied and having access to allied powers. That let nic die and ultimately finished off the snatching of defeat from the jaws of victory which Grapes began.

Poor grapes ... I'm beating up on him a bit. But seriously. We had an unassailable position as town and .... sigh. So much effort just negated for reasons I'm really interested in hearing. Need to know what in the world Grapes was thinking.

I'd also like to know why on earth Vezok asked the game to kill his mod confirmed mason partner.

Anything else I want to know is in the scum thread so that will wait for whatever to decide whether I can go looking or not.

[Drixx]

Also, I fooled the shit out of you

There's a difference between us seeing that your claim was similar to Xtoxm's and wanting to consider what that meant ... and I will always tell people to stop and wait to hammer when a watch or a track result is given. If you know someone visited someone else, but no death or negative impact has been reported ... what you're seeing could be a lot of things. It was bad to assume immediately that it meant you were scum. Farside came in with the info that sealed you as scum while I was typing that post, and you self hammered too, if I am remembering correctly. It felt like there were posts going up every 5 seconds at that point.

[Drixx]

Actually, reading through previous PT's - a lot of the time I tend to make statements which you feel are insulting towards you, but which are not actually meant like that. I hope when I clarify them afterwards, that there's no lingering resentment or anything, since my insults tend to be quite blunt.

I'm actually quite nervous that our hydra PT will end up with a bunch of people hating my offhand comments. Hopefully not. Varsoon enjoyed them at least!

[Drixx]

This flatters me a bit but it will look good on my record.

Ftr RR, i'm not the one blocking the PT and i'm sorry Varsoon uses the awful policy of blocking PTs. We have an awesome 75 page scum PT and it sucks that you won't be able to view it.

As for your masonry logic ... since when are ICs designed to live longer than N4, let alone lylo. I'm surprised no one else really questioned this logic at any point in the game.

As I brought up with Varsoon already, my only issues with this game were the shitty fakeclaims and Vez/Beer being flavour confirmed to each other. If anything it felt a bit scumsided if you fix those two small things, but a lot of towns powerful roles died early so maybe not.

I'm glad we won, I was terrified of another night with no kill possible after that kill on mastin failed.

This is from my PT monologue on D9:

I am not fucking with them. I've just had a kill unexpectedly fail and i'm legitimately concerned the same will happen again tonight. Clearly RR was able to protect mastin, so i'm currently having a punt at drawing this protection away from mastin. Not expecting much, but might as well try, I figure.

Milestone: First successful rolefish of Steven, Day 9. Not bulletproof. Doctor who can choose to self protect? Something weird I can't think of? I wish those two hadn't refused to rolecop RR. "he'll claim soon" they said. Yeah?? D9, where's the claim? Thanks for that.

Also, new paranoia: Hermit is a mass wagon roleblocker? He's the rave guy, after all. I really can't afford to spend tonight dancing. Can't avoid voting Hermit though, so i'll just ignore this thought.

So yeah, I want to hammer Hermit, but I want to at least try and improve my chances should tonight go wrong for me. It's also weirding me out that RR is so willing to rush this day and makes me think he has another card up his sleeve.

We expected to live long enough to actually become innocent child, since we didn't become that until day 5. As designed, we should have died night 4. That's all. A better design would have had seasons be shorter by 1 day, and have you and mastin neibhor with us on the day we can IC, which would have presented us with a lot more choices, and also put our death date at night 6, which is reasonable. Two days to work as IC is fairly strong but not over the top. Lasting all game was a little crazy. We kept wondering when scum was going to shoot at us and it just never happened.

[Drixx]

It makes me a bit sick actually. We had a post ready to try and make Xtoxm think that mislynching wouldn't help him because we were going to claim to be able to self protect and protect Mastin again, and we worked out how we expected him to respond if scum ... and we didn't use it.

@Titus - If you read our hydra PT, you'll see that we basically never trusted you, but did our very best to give the impression that we did but were just being cautious.

[Drixx]

I am glad the game made it to a lylo situation, honestly.

This is generally a pretty good indication of balance.

@Cerb, I was just worried about you and your protection for the coming night phase (that i'm glad wasn't needed in the end). Hermit was obviously not a fucking supersaint and I was beginning to build up annoyance that I would be caught for the wrong reason. You really seemed too confident today, and voted far more quickly than what i'd expect from you in a lylo situation, so I thought you had means to block my night kill again for a 3p lylo.

We were going to test you, but the way Constantine played the day, he tipped the scales. You guys were probably both pretty even in our minds for a long time. In our original planned lynch order, you came before him even. But his play was just so scummy today. You did a good job. Playing as the last scum, especially for a few weeks, is really quite a lot more mentally taxing than people realize until they're doing it. Playing it to a win is super satisfying. Enjoy it. I know I enjoyed the hell out of winning SMITE.

[Drixx]

Well ... I guess Constantine

really

doesn't like me.

Well, he was close anyway: onto the WotC list goes SCtH.

[Drixx]

What Cerberus said. We both need more than gut to go by. For me gut is just my mind telling me I know something and is a clue for me to stop and re-think things.

You had a really big thing going against you, Constantine, which was the post from the day 2 alliance your slot invaded, and you replaced in. Unknown to us, someone (presumably Tunnel Warriors) thought that your predecessor was replacing out as a strategic move to avoid the pressure I was applying, and Varsoon commented that it was not the case and the replace out was for legitimate reasons (I know quite well they were legitimate ... that post I made, in hindsight, was awful. An aside ends up dominating the post and I didn't even properly communicate what I was saying (that admitting to wanting to kidnap someone against their will isn't exactly non-scummy) and there was a focus on some shared unpleasantness in both of our pasts). When looking at that late in the game, the question was why would Varsoon feel the need to say that for a town replace out? Only one alignment would strategically replace out in that situation.

When we were evaluating everything there was (and it was hard with Xtoxm, because his post history was either slam dunk town or slam dunk scum, but there wasn't enough to tell for sure which way), that little piece along with your refusal to quote your own posts and actions to show why you should be assumed to be town conspired against you.

As you'll see in our PT, we felt like the outcome of the game was on us because we made a critical misplay after the Grapes thing, so while you could have really helped a lot by doing what I begged you to do ... we could have ensured the win even after the fuzzy mislynch, so it's still on us.

I would advise you to consider what folks are saying. I retract my assertion that you are on my WotC list, so now there's nobody there again ... but you know well that your style clashes with a lot of people. Instead of telling them they're wrong and they need to adapt to you ... perhaps you could work on trying to meet folks in the middle?

[Drixx]

Cerberus

Your tune will change, guarantee it. Not stating this as an argument, in so much as a fact.
Raw ability at identifying scum (gut) is the most effective tool one can have this game.

No, it won't change. We've both been playing this game for years. I'm well into my 2nd decade.

What you are calling "gut" is just your brain telling you that you know something. It's lazy to just go with that, as it

will

give false positives and give you people who aren't scum but who are hiding something and your brain picked up on it. Once you learn to realize that it's your brain telling you it caught something, you can learn to figure out what. I figure out a lot of people as town in games just because of that "gut" that makes me reevaluate what I know.

Ugh pedits.

True "gut" is unexplained patterns.

This. It's your brain saying "I've got it!" when you don't consciously know that you do. The best players I've ever seen know how to figure out what that gut is telling them always. On the site Cerberus and I come from there was a guy there who was Legendary in his ability to figure out things stupidly fast. When I would mod games, he would frequently PM me his guess at setup and roles and be 90% right or better ... and he would do this on day 2.

And for the record ... we knew something was off about Xtoxm all game. He was, in fact, ahead of you in our lynch order. I would say the day started and you had more actual tangible things going against you, but you reacted really strangely to the early gambit we threw at you, and then when we unvoted to see if you would make yourself OTAF ... you just kind of flailed around. You should take it as a compliment. We thought you were a godfather and killed KC to throw us off (and given that we had Xtoxm ahead of you in our lynch order until the final day ...).

[Drixx]

Good game everybody.

Oh yea and before I forget. When conftown is calling the last two people in your lynchpool 100% town, you kinda panic. Like, I figured it was easier just to flip a coin rather than talk you off of your reasoning for townreading fuzzy and xtoxm, because you wouldn't have listened anyway. (and evidently never did) If my reads were shit this game I probably woulda been like whatever but I'd been pretty on point, so.

Plus cage was giving me the go ahead :p. And you even asked 'if you think he's the last scum why didn't you hammer him' like, you can't ask me that, and then turn around and point the figure at me after I do it.

What kills us is that if you looked at our plan ... Xtoxm was gonna get lynched before Constantine, and if you had accepted your lynch, all reasonable scum candidates were guaranteed to die before the town could be endgamed. Personal agency is a real thing, and you acted within your rights to exercise it, but at least acknowledge that you had already said you wanted out of the game, and that we had to lynch you because of Miller claim, and that if we had lynched you that day and Xtoxm the next day, this game would have been over awhile ago as a town win.

When you exercise personal agency, you have to take responsibility for your agency.

@Titus - I already retracted it, and yes there is a growing rumbling which is a big part of why. I don't think the answer is writing people off right away. But SCtH has to be willing to meet us in the middle. Right now he's standing way over there somewhere away from us and telling us to all come to him ... and I think people are just tired of it and that's why there's that growing rumbling. He respects you a lot ... talk him into coming over to the dark (light) side!

[Drixx]

This, by the way, is the best post game talk ever. You guys made the hurt of losing go away and get replaced by the excitement of learning from the game. Thank you for that.

I felt horrible since we were the IC and it was on us, and we made a critical mistake and have been beating ourselves up about it for awhile. Well ... Cerberus was beating himself up and I would try to stop him, while secretly agreeing with him but I didn't want to make him feel bad because he made the call on all of our final night actions this game except for one night. I felt bad that he would feel like it was primarily his fault when we always agreed on things, so it was equally

our

fault that we made that mistake.

[Drixx]

I'm well into my 2nd decade.

20 years? Wow, I'm impressed. You must of been playing it as Werewolf in the 80's.

Into my 2nd decade (12th year) of

forum

mafia.

I first played live mafia as a party game as a teenager, and if I tell you what decade that was in, then you'll start calling me an old fart.

[Drixx]

People are REALLY fucking smart...and they frequently don't realize exactly how smart they are. Our subconscious is trained to watch for patterns, and things that don't FIT patterns. Gut is when something doesn't match the expected pattern, but you don't actually know what made it not match. If you're good enough, and dedicated enough, you will ALWAYS be able to go back and logically identify WHAT exactly caused that ping.

pedit: grapes, we asked you that because we were curious what you'd say. It wasn't encouragement, if it was, we would have asked for you to vote him.

About the hermit WotC thing: It's not because I can't read him, I don't care about that. it's because he doesn't contribute to the game. It isn't fun to play the game with people who don't talk.

True but our brain is also trained to pick up patterns that aren't there. That's why we need a group to verify.

Plus, the group is better than a person. Everyone knows how much a pound weighs. Put a cow in front of everyone and you get wild guesses but the average is better than any expert.

Valid point. I think when we're just talking about forum mafia, the thing to do is know what to go look at when your "gut" goes off. I've gotten really good over the years at spotting when scum "narrative" shifts without a town reason for it, but it first requires that my mind catches it and I get that "gut" thing, and then I have to go find it. I won't generally lay down a vote just on a gut feeling alone, because there have been a lot of times where that "gut" sense has led me to realizing someone is a cop or a doctor or something else, and the best thing I can do when I realize that is keep my mouth shut (as either alignment).

So my play tends to require time, but I find it relaxing as a counterpoint to my job. It exercises my mind in a different way, and given that I've been confined to a wheelchair with a T1 level spinal injury since I was 11 ... exercising my mind is the best way I have to burn calories (apart from my daily shadow boxing aerobics to keep the heart healthy and the weight off).

i felt like xtoxm's vote on hermit after yall unvoted was pretty scum motivated especially with supersaint paranoia swimming around and really liked when hermit called that out

hermit didn't put up all that bad of a fight in comparison to some of the games ive read that he was in

I've seen

much

worse end game performances by both town and scum players. I think if Constantine had just been willing to look at his own ISO and show me what he had contributed to the town ... just that action would have made me reset my assumptions. My thoughts when I begged him to do that was that scum wouldn't do it but a townie who was invested in winning would do it.

I've been kicking myself since the game ended since I had Xtoxm in the lynch order ahead of Constantine for weeks and weeks now, and I let my confusion with how Constantine plays (and a poor assumption about a mod comment) lead me into seeing his actions during the day as scum flailing instead of town exasperation.

I hope you read our hydra PT, Grapes. You'll find that I was initially over the top angry with you, but then later you'll see us blaming ourselves and basically saying that if the game went to scum it would be because of a huge error we made.

[Drixx]

Drixx: Nope, i'm taking the blame here for allying the wrong person. I'm the one who made the post hammer posts abouta lliances on that day.

Doesn't work that way. All game we agreed on all decisions. Even the final hammer decision. We will share success another game, but today we share our failure. We should have won and we screwed up. Both of us. We are Reasonably Rational, and being reasonably rational can get you a long way ... but this time it was

just

short of where we wanted to go.

[Drixx]

One thing that needs saying.

Bins: I am super sorry. Words aren't enough to express what I feel. I hope you will forgive my mistake, and fully understand if you do not. Be well.

[Drixx]

Drixx, I think you're confbiasing with the prove your town bit.

Jailkeeps block kills. We couldn't jailkeep and kill you.

I felt like just the willingness to go through the exercise would have been a town tell. I try to always predict what I think will happen.

You'll see in our hydra PT there were things we did where I was like "what response means what?" and we worked out what we expected.

That's fallable, of course, but if you try and get responses from people without having any idea how you will read the response, then you are definitely going to fall into confirmation bias.

Where I personally hit confirmation bias was in having a piece of evidence that seemed to point to Constantine as scum and then just everything he did seemed scummy. I don't know if the dead thread was spoiled or not (haven't gone to look yet), but I think an uninformed person looking at the day would have had a hard time reading Constatine as town. I feel like we legitimately tried to reset our assumptions and give him room to convince us, and I don't know that anyone can characterize what he did as convincing.

Everyone we could ask already knows the answer, so it's an empty question at this point. We already said the loss is on us for mistakes we made, so it's whatever.

[Drixx]

Plus jailkeep requires alliance...

If Fro99er hadn't been caught, your team started with the ability to keep us from allying. Ever. (We counted as a gem).

The only escape we had from Strongman was if TunnelWarriors had been alive and we could have allied him (see first point) to mass commute out.

It is what it is. I already said how I would adjust the design to allow the IC to actually be an IC and interact with the game as such, while also giving the scum team the means to choose to kill the role within a reasonable timeframe, if they so choose.

You'll see in our hydra PT ... I actually questioned the logic of xtoxm and mastin being town, and Cerberus rightly pointed out that the only thing that logic

really

accomplished was made us sure Sonic was scum. I was wrongly giving that logical assumption credit for other things. So we did re-evaluate the assumption. I've said it a few times now ... we had Xtoxm in our lynch order ahead of Constantine for weeks. If we had stuck to our plan...

But we didn't. Let that be a lesson I suppose. Also ... you were dead and knew what was going on in the end. We were alive, had everyone looking to us to make the decision, and had limited firm information and probabilities to work with. It's easy to be critical when you know all the answers.

[Drixx]

What were all your night actions, RR? It's a miracle we dodged all your doc shots until N8.

If you look at our role you'll see. Once per season we could protect someone (and either protect ourselves or not ... so we could have used that sacrificially if it came to it). We then had limited shots of self-protect. We spent a lot of time talking about when to use things. We lost the game when we allied with KC instead of you or Mastin. We would have been able to keep Nic alive and would have just caught you but we messed that up so badly.

@Varsoon - Our hydra PT is complete and can be opened whenever for folks to read.

[Drixx]

what do you mean by OTAF anyway

Cerb gave the actual translation. It is for those times when someone is just so obviously town it hurts.

[Drixx]

I hate having a janitor in a game...

That said, gg, everyone!

Thanks for modding this one, Varsoon, as brief as my time here was, I had fun.

I need to draw scum in a game with you where you actually have to hunt me.

I'll be a Vanilla Townie, I'll have you totally figured out, so Town will lynch me Day 1.

Isn't that how it goes? Remember that game where you thought I was a bomb and you and your teammate did competing miller claims and I called out your whole team and told the game exactly what was going on, and then I got lynched? What's worse is I got lynched for hammering the day before (without realizing I was hammering) because your scum partner who did the dueling miller claims thing claimed a cop guilty on our cop, whom your team had rolecopped.

And I called out the whole situation to the game. I was like "they rolecopped Shinobi, did a fake claim to get him lynched, and now they're doing counterclaims to try and clear one of themselves". I had it spot on all the way and nobody believed me. I think you guys turned those gambits into a win if I recall correctly.

Just didn't want anyone thinking you're only ever on the bad side of those situations ;p

[Drixx]

I was going to do that Sonic. I feel like I've been super fortunate and played in the two best games on site so far this year. SMITE was a knock down drag out fight of a game and this one was played really well on both sides.

Let's keep these really top notch games coming.

[Drixx]

Anyone who is thinking of reading the hydra PT for RR ... Cerberus removed our names and headers and timestamps and such, and it clocks in at just shy of 80,000 words. You're looking at a Steven King length novel of words ... so maybe don't expect to finish all at once. Hopefully the timestamps help if you're curious about specific things that happened, heh.

[Drixx]

I will begin down the modding path within the next month, so sometime next year will come the day I get to post signups for a large themed game. The one that I would LIKE to run is a complete reworking of a game I ran on the site where Cerb and I come from. It's so reworked at this point that it wouldn't be recognized by the folks who played the first run of it, except for it's theme (Stephen King's

The Dark Tower

series).

If this game was particularly hard to balance ... whomever that guru is who managed it is someone I need to do some favors for I think. Anyway ... off to bed.

[Drixx]

Not fair. That hit in the feels.

[Drixx]

@Drixx: That scumpartner who thought up the whole silly gambit was meeeeee

I had already stroked your ego enough ... didn't want to overdo it ;p

[Drixx]

Can Cerb and I hydra in that game Varsoon? If all the pre-ins are filled, we may have trouble getting in separately.

[Drixx]

Also frustrating: Site rules say you can only run a single mini theme at a time. So even thought I've got this setup essentially nailed, gonna have to sit on it for awhile. My Suikoden Upick is coming up, and Parasyte Large Theme should be following in time.
If anyone would like to be a part of the review process for the Steven Universe Prequel Theme, please let me know.

Give me a pre-in to one of your other games please, and I'll be happy to offer my thoughts on the prequel, even though that means I won't be able to play it. I could co-mod if you like. I think I'm going to send Mith my off site mod experience and just skip waiting to be assigned an open and just get my mini ready so I can start working on that Large.

That Large, with Varsoon level flavor, is going to blow people's minds. I can't wait.