'The Lost Boys' Mafia (Cry Little Sister, it's OVER!)

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/confirm

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Vote: AniX

because he's the only scummer here I've seen post but never been in a game with

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unvote, vote: Crub

Daycop'd

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I <3 you and I don't even know you, Pooky.

Are you scumbuddies with Crub?

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unvote

for reasons.

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vote: -TinVision-

Also daycopped.

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Vote: TCS

Smoking gun.

Six foot twenty fucking killing for fun
Opponents beware
Opponents beware

He's coming
He's coming
He's coming

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I find the idea of a day cop with multiple investigations per day, even if its a number per game as very suspicious so I am going for a

Vote TCS

it seems as though he is trying to get us confused, and destroy as many theories as possible, to keep us from working as a group. Even though there are very few theories at the start of the game.

Working as a group? There's only a handful of people in any given game game who work as a group on page four. Are you among them?

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vote: Laggalot

FOS: The Fonz

I agree with VitR's assessment of the responses to my

random-vote stage joke

.

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Laggalot's move to Arafax smells like a big yellow bus.

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One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach, all the damn vampires.

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Ooh, I'm a meaty topic. Someone go dance with the title fairy.

As it is, I think it still may be worth our while to lynch Arafax or Anix because they have essentially claimed Vanilla. By lynching either of them, we 1) gain information as to whether or not they were being truthful, 2) do not risk lynching a power role before night gives us more info on the setup, and 3) do not make scum's odds any better than they already are.

I'm all for lynching a vanilla townie on day 1.

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Especially a "vanilla townie," if you get my drift.

unvote, vote: arafax

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Unvote, vote TCS

Sounds like a scum gambit. I'd rather we find actual scum, don't you ?

You're wrong, I'm right. Discussion closed.

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We have no guaruntee that either Anix or Arafax are townies. Not even a little bit.

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^3rded

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God damn it guys,

three vanilla claims on Day One

?

I'm just gonna /wrists now and be done with it.

I'm not moving off of Arafax.

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Figure it out for yourself, scum.

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My interpretation of Flay's first post was that all vanilla townies were beach bums, and that Arafax's claim was basically a scumclaim. Anix defending throws that into doubt, because he came out as saying it was possible.

I'm just not sure either are trustworthy, and it seems very WIFOM to try to decide whether or not Anix is a genuine townie defending what could be a genuine claim, or scum throwing some heat off a partner and willing to risk outing both to do so. It's a stupid play, so perhaps unlikely, but in my mind I'd rather lynch one to find out for myself.

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As long as we catch scum that's great... but for all intents and purposes I'd prefer to lynch

claimed vanilla

on day 1. Maybe that's just a mistake on my part.

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TCS appears to be more opportunistic than usual here.

vote: TCS

In what way?

We have no guarantee that Arafax is town, even if Anix's defense of him is genuine.

It is worse than useless for someone to claim vanilla Day 1. I've heard it called "scummy."

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unvote, vote: The Fonz

Yeah, I'm comfortable with this lynch.

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Why am I not voting The Fonz?

coz TCS is the play?

Your face is the play.

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Why am I not voting The Fonz?

coz TCS is the play?

Your face is the play.

ooh, you're good. wait for it...


Your MUM is the play.

Your mum's face is the play.

But seriously. I'm the play because...?

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Because I'm "opportunistic"?

Lynching claimed vanilla Day One isn't opportunistic. It's good sense.

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That is a scummy claim.

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That is a scummy claim.

i disagree. If i remember correctly, AniX also claimed to be a Vampire in the film, but not in the game. That explain why Fonz wanted to tie him to a nameclaim-in the hope that he might claim his name, and be outted as scum.
I did the same thing, as I am

STAR

, who is apparently a vampire in the film.

oh and Fonz is at -1.

Could we please,

please

,

please

,

please

STOP CLAIMING

?!?!!

I have NEVER seen a town so intent on fucking itself up.

If one more person claims needlessly, I will request replacement. This has officially passed from ludicrously stupid to hideously moronic.

Fonz claimed vanilla vampire because he knew he could get away with it, thanks in part to the outrageously foolish nameclaiming of some other people I would care not to mention.

If Fonz turns up vanilla town, then what have we lost? I think it's enormously plausible that this is a fake claim.

Thank you, and please for the love of all that is good and decent in this world stop playing like you're all on crack.

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Teh Fawns: "Oh.... woe is me....!"

Don't worry... no one has the stones to lynch anyone this game... we're just going to continue wagoning until everyone has claimed vanilla townie and then all abandon the game because we're all morons and can't decide what to do.

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Seriously, the next person to claim vanilla townie gets a flaming bag of cat shit on their front doorstep, courtesy of TCS.

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Seriously, the next person to claim vanilla townie gets a flaming bag of cat shit on their front doorstep, courtesy of TCS.

you really are acting pathetic in this game. I'm not even kidding.

What purpose was served by you name-claiming.

Give me a reason I can't refute with my left nut and I promise to move on.

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unvote, vote: Mariyta

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We got to lynch minus one on the Fonz, and its beginning to fall away. Can we put it back there please, plus one more.

I'm still amenable.

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unvote, vote: ABR

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unvote, vote: Crub

I advocate lurker hunting at this point. Let's see if we can't rustle up a few more vanilla claims, eh?

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Only when I'm incredibly frustrated with the way the game is going.

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unvote, vote: Indy

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unvote

Sigh.

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Misread a post, sorry.

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I haven't been able to be as attentive as I would have liked in this game, and have requested replacement.

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All right, I'm not going to be replaced, seeing as I'm a lynch candidate I think I'd rather not confuse the issue any more by bringing in a new face.

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I agree with ectomancer. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if The Fonz were actually the cult leader... his frustration with the events of the day gives me something other than a "vanilla townie" vibe.

vote: The Fonz

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I agree with ectomancer. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if The Fonz were actually the cult leader... his frustration with the events of the day gives me something other than a "vanilla townie" vibe.

vote: The Fonz

that clinches it. Fonz is town. Lets merge the Mariyta and Amb wagons, in order to actually lynch a scumbag today.

You=stupid-face.

Just remember this later on, kay?

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I agree with ectomancer. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if The Fonz were actually the cult leader... his frustration with the events of the day gives me something other than a "vanilla townie" vibe.

vote: The Fonz

that clinches it. Fonz is town. Lets merge the Mariyta and Amb wagons, in order to actually lynch a scumbag today.

You=stupid-face.

Just remember this later on, kay?

lol you think I'm the stupid one? If you turn out to be town in this game, i'm going to hold this against you eternally.

First you're going to have to explain what you're holding against me.

If I actually heard a case from you, I'd be fine with that.

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Leave any meta-game grudges out of this game please. I rather like it and don't want to see external motivations being used here. It sucks for everyone else not involved in the pissing contest.

AFAIK, we have no "grudge..." BM genuinely thinks I'm scum and I want to know why.

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I think that a

vote: mariyta

would be prudent at this point.

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So it's the Occam's Razor vote? I can't say I disagree- in the absence of evidence to the contrary, the simplest explanation is the best, right? Like Einstein said- "State everything as simply as possible, but not more so." The good old fashioned approach is probably the best.

That said, I now have to find somebody to vote for. My suspicion of Maryta is gone- it was more of a lurking thing, it's time to move on for now. I think TCS is more likely. I think he's trying to draw attention to some possible setups, and away from others; afraid the town's getting too close?

vote: TCS

I haven't commented upon any setups. You, sir, are dramatically full of shit.

vote: sudo_nym

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I don't like your logic, Laggalot.

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1. He offers the suggestion of lynching TCS. Not really a strong point, because he dismissed it fairly quickly.
2. Sudo_Nym sets out cases against Arafax, Indy and me, but never votes or FOSes any of these people. Instead, he jumps only on the Sir.Laggalot wagon.
3. Set-up/role speculation
4. Jumps on the Mariyta wagon.
5. Jumps on the TCS wagon.

It is mostly the fact that he has been building cases and showing suspicions himself, but his votes are all tag-along votes and specifically not on the people he seems to have his own suspicions of. Even his TinVision vote (the only non-random vote not mentioned above) only uses justification provided by HH earlier.

Quoted for extensive amounts of truthiness.

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FOS: Ectomancer

for a timely derail of the superior Sudo_Nym wagon.

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Seriously, there is no play for today that is not Sudo_Nym.

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Good luck with your bandwagon, scummers.

Can someone who isn't scum give an opinion on Dybeck vs Ecto/Mariyta please?

BM? TCS? AniX? Arafax?

One or both of you is distracting us from lynching Sudo.

Sorry if I've got tunnel vision today, but Sudo is scum and you are doing the town a disservice.

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To post in all games:

Sorry, I've got zero interest in mafia right now. Hopefully I'll be back soon to make good on this game. I really apologize for doing this, I'm just completely burnt out. I'll either be back in a few days or ask to be replaced.

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I'm here, and I am absolutely not going to be on the GOW wagon because half the players on the wagon are on my scumlist.

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@TCS, do you think GoW is town?

I think he's pretty scummy, to be honest. But I'm not comfortable voting him for the reasons already stated: I think Ecto, Sudo, and MoS are all equally scummy.

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Also the case for GodofWine seems to be based primarily on "The Case for GodofWine," if you get my meaning.

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Or it's just as likely that it's simply a matter of the mod designing the game to be mass-claim-proof by giving some townies rolenames like that.

I can't believe I never thought of that myself. That's actually a really good point, but it doesn't particularly alter who I see as suspicious. Chalk up a new learnin' experience for the still-relatively-new player.

People playing the newbie card on page 33 deserve to be lynch. Call it a metagame.

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EBWOP: "deserve to be lynched." English no work today.

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Just a nameclaim does nothing for us. A nameclaim was an innocent lynch yesterday.

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Ah, true enough. But a Day 1 vanilla townie claim is as good as worthless anyway.

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Ah, true enough. But a Day 1 vanilla townie claim is as good as worthless anyway.

Actually, i disagree. As this opinion becomes more accepted, less scum are going to claim vanilla townie, and thus, scum who are under pressure on Day 1, may buy themselves some time with a power-role claim.

Just a thought
BM

That's exactly what we want... scum to claim counterable or verifiable roles..

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You know something we don't, Laggsy?

Oh ffs now he's rolefishing.

Can we pretty please lynch him already?

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I'm going to

vote: ectomancer

at this point. I really, really don't like this setup speculation anymore. We need to focus on reading out scum.

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I'm going to

vote: ectomancer

at this point. I really, really don't like this setup speculation anymore. We need to focus on reading out scum.

When new information becomes available to clarify an issue I had earlier I am going to bring it up and discuss it. I did not vote BM, I gave him an fos for suspicious behavior back then and new discussion that would help to explain his motivations. Call it a marker if you will. I see a couple people thought it was worth more than an fos, so my point was not frivolous.
I am not ready to lynch GoW and his claim, without a counter-claim is the reason. It is apparent that by doing so, I am buying into the notion that Flay did not just drop all the names randomly into a hat and draw them out, randomly assigning roles. I tie Marko to David, and there is no scenario in any of my speculations that say that lynching him

today

would be a good move.

The thing is, we don't know enough about the setup at this point to make any kind of educated guess about which rolenames might be pro-town and which might not be. The most "obveous" answer, that the characters who were vampires in the movie are all scum, is clearly not true, and beyond that, we don't really know anything. So I'd say we're much better off at this stage of the game just lynching people based on behavior rather then try to figure out who's on what side based just on rolenames. Trying to outguess the mod at this stage with such limited information is not likely to get us anywhere productive, I think.

Quoted for truth.

I would also like to see Sudo_Nym lynched. My vote on ectomancer by no means that I think Sudo is cleared.

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Could those still voting GOW explain why they remain on his wagon?

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Could those still voting GOW explain why they remain on his wagon?

That seems like a strange way of putting it. Nothing has changed since I voted for him, at least, but then again I voted for him after he claimed. Why would you suggest that people should not "remain" on his wagon? Do you think his claim was that strong, or what?

I think that the case is "that" weak.

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sudo_nym or ectomancer should be lynched

/contribution

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That is extremely nice right there, Mariyta. I admit, I once thought you were a bit shady yourself, but I suppose just inactivity in a game rife with it isn't a fair or accurate measure of anything.

Also, I'm getting even more red flags of GoW (now Dasquin). Seems like a strange time to quit- couldn't handle the pressure, perhaps?

Oh God, scum less plz

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unvote, vote: sudo_nym

I will accept either a sudo or ecto lynch today.

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I'm posting because I got a prod. I still want to lynch Sudo. I'm sorry if my contribution is lax, but he's scum and I want to lynch him.

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I'm still not going to support a dybeck lynch.

I hope for the sake of the town that dybeck is scum, because otherwise a lot of you are going to look like shit tomorrow.

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I apologize very sincerely to the town I'm letting down, but school is very busy right now.

I will attempt to get a re-read and substantial posts in, but don't hold your breath.

As it is, I'm still baffled as to why we aren't lynching Sudo_Nuym, and I think that a dybeck lynch would indeed be very bad for the town.

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I would like to

FOS: everyone on the Pooky wagon

.

@ Ecto: It doesn't matter whether there's only a cult or anything. I'm of the opinion that all we are dealing with is a cult, since there was no nightkill last night, but I suppose anything could really be going on at this point in the day. Back to my point however--it doesn't matter. We need to lynch someone who we think is anti-town. I still think Sudo_Nym is anti-town. I am suspicious of you (Ecto) and Mariyta for latching onto wagons that I think are targeting obv-town players.

I will remain voting Sudo_Nym in the hopes that you all will come to your senses, but I will switch to an Ecto or Mari wagon if only to avoid deadline lynching someone whom I think is innocent, or a no-lynch.

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Ok, I'll entertain the assumption that I'm bonkers for a minute. Why dybeck?