SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:59 pm

In post 5210, Solar Wind wrote:I mean, I can put it in a more PC manner:

Cephrir, why are you buddying so hard to Tammy, Ffery, and Nacho? Why are you taking their word as gospel and sheeping them around?

Because I like them, I think they are better players than I am, we have built a rapport over multiple games, and I believe they are town.

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:01 pm

I'm not. I'm treating her like a human being.

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:02 pm

Please find me where that happened.

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:07 pm

These arguments we've been having are the least alignment-relevant things I will say the entire game.

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:09 pm

I'm not the one who keeps insisting on dragging their interpersonal problems into a mafia game.

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:13 pm

That would be me pointing out that you're dragging your interpersonal issues into a mafia game.

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:15 pm

I'm really sad that you have felt compelled to make post 5224, and I am not going to give it the dignity of a response

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:16 pm

I am going to do my best not to get baited further and will endeavor to ignore any further posts on this subject.

Pedit: Good, I'm not interested.

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:01 am

I would say it's more like he clearly spent enough time thinking about the game in the time between those posts that I could imagine his reads changing. Some of the analysis he was doing could also lend itself to read changes, because he was looking at the game through a heavily neighborhood-spec-based lens during that period.

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:03 am

Oh, yeah, actually, he and anti did have a conversation about beast here. I missed that last time I checked this.

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:04 am

And by anti I mean I don't care enough to think about which head is talking.

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:11 am

I'll summarize it. Let me trawl back through this thread to determine the correct dates & times.

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:25 am

Timeline- make of it what you will. I've timestamped the in game posts for my own use when constructing it, might as well leave them. Didn't timestamp neighborhood posts due to questionable legality.

1. ooba posts a scumpool including beast in game thread. 302am

2. ooba says he is rereading some isos in game thread. 423 am

~Neighborhood~

ooba speculates about a scumteam that includes FT (and myself, lol)

Neighborhood spec begins. This continues intermittently; is not very good on account of being neighborhood spec.

Decides FT's neighborhood contains scum, possibly multiple scum, and beast's neighborhood looks good. Doesn't really explain why.

Decides he would lynch beast, this despite my and heartless' commentary in the interim having nothing to do with beast - I assume this has something to do with in thread developments

~End Neighborhood~

3. Also expresses that he thinks all three of our would be lynch targets are scummy in game thread. 623 pm

Neighborhood: Wishes beast wouldn't lurk.

4. says he and heartless are discussing beast in game thread; votes ft 641pm

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:27 am

In post 5269, Cephrir wrote:says he and heartless are discussing beast

This was a true statement; they were discussing his lurking habits/whether this is alignment indicative

Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:04 am

I don't know that it does.

I'm just presenting all the context so we're all working off the same information here.

Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:19 am

It would be cool if we lynched him faster. This is dragging. It's gonna happen.

Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:50 am

Don't be the hero this game deserves. Be the one it needs right now. (Read the thread.)

Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:05 am

In post 5281, Andrius wrote:
In post 5279, Cephrir wrote:Don't be the hero this game deserves. Be the one it needs right now. (Read the thread.)

Would you be terribly upset if I only read D1? (115 pages IIRC)

Not upset, Andy. Just disappointed.

No but seriously, I think there's probably a more efficient way to allocate your time. FT's suggestion would be a start, though frankly we are pretty much lynching the beast slot today. Just read my catchup posts and you can skip the first 80 pages!

Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:36 am

I can't say I blame you.

Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:51 am

Yes. It's pretty good IMO.

Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:05 pm

these replacements tho

ozgin, why are you assuming you will be alive tomorrow, that seems very unlikely

Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:06 pm

just don't.

Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:01 am

No, we shouldn't, because we are not under any circumstances lynching him.

Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:57 am

I'm adamant on you claiming because you are getting lynched.

I am no more interested in a claim from FT than one from, say, Andrius, myself, Imperium, or literally anyone else who is exactly as much of a non-lynch-candidate today as FT is.

And that "you must be a team" line is scumposting, plain and simple.

Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:09 am

In post 5341, Ozgin wrote:I also didn't say you must be a team, that's misrepping me. I just said it's like you're one. I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm just giving some information to the public about how you might be more than what you're letting on.

that is literally the definition of pointing fingers

Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:52 am

Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:37 am

neither

Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:49 am

brilliant deduction

Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:41 pm

In post 5350, Cephrir wrote:brilliant deduction

Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:15 pm

beastcharizard.

Ank, wat do.

Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:39 pm

why are you doing that thing that you did

Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:06 am

Since this asshat has just loverized me, in the event he is somehow not hammered, VOTE: TD.

This is pretty gay.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:08 am

If he is hammered, maybe Heartless will consider governing this. I really need to live to tonight so I can get a shot of my ult off.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:14 am

These people are scum and you should lynch them:

skybird
theace
tso
ank? td?

Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:17 am

fuck you, ozgin. you better be scum

Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:42 am

I don't believe you.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:45 am

at least I won't have to listen to falcon's bullshit anymore

Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:48 am

Well, someone loverized the two of us.

Either it was him, or scum decided to take me out rather than someone obvtown because ???

Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:48 am

Could they really just be that afraid of my role

Moreover, is ozgin seriously town

These are things I have trouble believing, so I have concluded he's doing it to spite me and/or is scum

Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:01 am

well i panicked rather than reading the thread, clearly i can hardly be expected to do my research

Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:22 am

it wasn't serqet

Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:23 am

Kinda thinking Falcon could actually be scum now too

Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:27 am

Like, I've been pretty clear about having a good role, why would you not want me to get a chance to prove that?

Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:42 am

Oh, you did the thing...?

Could you not do that thing

Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:44 am

Okay, the mod has just informed me that I am no longer able to vote for Ozgin. My vote was automatically removed from him, and that is why he's not dead.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:46 am

It would be cool if we could not lynch me today.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:50 am

Basically.

Oh well, he's probably town at this point really.

In that event, Oz, I'm sorry for tunneling you

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:14 am

I don't especially have a case at this moment. I could probably come up with one if I felt like it. I believe I'm allowed to have an opinion without drawing out painstaking reasons for it.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:18 am

That would certainly be in line with how protown you've been this game

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:28 am

That is a terrible argument.

I don't think he's scum anymore.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:29 am

Moreover,

as I stated

, I want to use my night action. If Ozgin was confirmed scum, I would still advocate not lynching him today.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:29 am

This is a ridiculous damned if I do damned if I don't scenario. And you are scum for putting me in it.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:31 am

Well, he's not scum, so.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:36 am

10/10 great ATE.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:36 am

I would say that was hot if we were talking about someone else.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:42 am

So I'm supposed to be scum with Ozgin? I don't see how anyone reading the last 10 pages could believe that.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:45 am

I wasn't interacting with you.

I'm pointing out to everyone else that your logic is ridiculous.

Furthermore, go fuck yourself.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:11 am

In post 5566, Heartless wrote:one dies the other does

that's basically what my pm says

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:12 am

I literally am incapable of voting Ozgin.

Besides, I now think he is town, and you'll probably come up with some bullshit excuse which people will eat up because that's what they do

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:17 am

I responded to that in post 5553

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:19 am

Well, you best not read day 2 then, Andy, because it's been like this for pages and pages and pages

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:35 am

In post 5584, Heartless wrote:

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:43 am

In post 5590, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 5589, Cephrir wrote:
In post 5584, Heartless wrote:

Shut up, dipshit. I'm not talking to you. Your post has served no productive purpose for the town.

this post implies you don't think i'm scum~

boy it sure is tough to keep that story straight

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:43 am

oh sweet

i hope you follow through with that

good riddance, asshole

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:45 am

could you use it to lynch someone who is actually scum, like someone who's not up for lynch today

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:46 am

the thing about me not dying is clearly bullshit, just as much so as the fake guilty

please don't be stupid anti

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:47 am

tso claims scum everyone

just wanted to make sure that was clear

pedit: no falcon. i just don't want to give you the fucking satisfaction.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:48 am

of getting your way

i'm town

please lynch falcon tomorrow for the love of god

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:50 am

It's not? Oh. Cool.

TSO, you're an asshole :/

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:51 am

In post 5614, Espeonage wrote:Ok, wait a second.

How the fuck does Tammy have anything to do with what is going on right now?

How?

The slot hasn't posted in the game thread or the neighbourhood since I replaced in, so where the fuck does that shit fuck of a deflection have any merit.

You can die. You can die so fucking much. I have no grasp on Ozgin right now, but I want to lynch you. I want to lynch you so fucking much.
And to fucking think that I was going to give you the time over day to listen to what you had to say over the night phase and reserve proper judgement to tomorrow. Fuck you.

I want you dead immediately.

For the record, as far as I could tell you are townreading her too. So idek wtf you're on.

It has nothing to do with it

he's literally just an asshole

Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:52 am

In post 5623, T S O wrote:You've been calling me scum for fucking days and ignoring me, as well as being a cunt to Falcon.

I can't ignore you if you aren't posting.

I've been as civil as I can possibly make myself be. You should see my sanctuary. It ain't pretty.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:38 pm

Well then.

I still don't want to lynch Ozgin anymore, even if I won't die which isn't clear to me at this point. I thought his reaction was pretty town.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:38 pm

Oh yeah, that definitely does kill me.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:55 pm

I may not use it today after all if my need to prove myself isn't IMMINENT. Now that we know this is temporary it's not as vital I do something NOW.

I'll probably explain everything in the neighborhood, but I'm still coming to terms with that.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:44 pm

I don't think ooba is scum.

If you think Ozgin's scum and I'm not, it makes more sense to lynch him tomorrow. However, I'm going to fight that.

Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:52 pm

I don't know what that means!

Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:47 am

Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:08 am

I wish we could do something about that.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:54 am

By itself, I guess not.

Given that I'm town and there would hypothetically be little stopping us from lynching him tomorrow if he's scum, still seems like a bad plan.

I am considering voting for No Lynch.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:09 am

I thought his frustration with the whole thing read town.

pedit: Despite disliking Magua's posts routinely, I think he is town.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:25 am

I've come around regarding him in the very recent past.

There's no way lynching him today is a good idea really. If I have to claim to show this, I can, but I feel comfortable with my ability to defend this statement.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:27 am

Sorry if I'm feeling kind of wishy washy here. I feel like I want to play my role 7 ways at once and I'm trying to do all of them simultaneously.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:29 am

I'll do either.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:29 am

Have you read this day? Ozgin and I would have to be the most magnificent busmasters, and he's a relative newbie, so like.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:31 am

Fair enough.

Even if he's scum, I believe his frustration with me was genuine in hindsight.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:41 am

And yes Nacho, I remember your arguments re: TD, but I think the remote chance he's that crazy are better than the chances of FT being scum.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:16 pm

I don't get the impression he's actually read the parts of the thread where you were insanely town.

Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:21 pm

Your fake tso town tells are pretty underwhelming

Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:27 pm

In post 5753, FourTrouble wrote:Ceph, if you could lynch anyone in this game right now, who would it be?

I'd have to iso Skybird/ace/Ank/TSO to pick a top scumread. I want to lynch all of them.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:43 am

In post 5794, ZeL1nK wrote:
In post 5633, dramonic wrote:
TiphaineDeath (9): Mastin2, Xombie, theaceofspades, farside22, Vezokpiraka, Ooba, The Mask, Ankamius, Ozgin, Cephrir

A question for anyone who wishes to answer.

Is anyone assuming this is an all-town wagon?
Do people think I'm being bussed and, if so, by who? Since dramonic won't tell me, perhaps one of you can.
If I did happen to be town (if it's even possible to imagine such a scenario), who would be scum here?

This isn't productive!

In post 5811, Espeonage wrote:It's hilarious.

Zelink should play survivor.

I couldn't agree more, I love this guy XD

In post 5818, Heartless wrote:
In post 5767, dramonic wrote:
Votecount 48: Well then.

TiphaineDeath (8): Mastin2, Xombie, theaceofspades, farside22, Ooba, The Mask, Ankamius, Ozgin, Cephrir
FourTrouble (7): Metal Sonic, Magua, Heartless, TSO, Vezokpiraka, Imperium, Espeonage
Ozgin (5): FourTrouble, TheWayItEnds, Andrius

No Lynch (2): Skybird

Not Voting: ZZZX, TiphaineDeath

22 alive means 12 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-03-07 00:00:00)

TD need to be replaced =_=

dram, is this vc correct?

who's voteless on the td wagon?

Mask is, it's my fault and I'm sorry

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:56 am

I don't especially think you're scum, really. We're just in a very awkward position today because we only have three lynches to choose from and all of them are bad.

I think Skybird, Ankamius, TSO and theaceofspades are scum. I don't see that changing tomorrow unless we get a scum flip.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:05 am

In post 5827, ZeL1nK wrote:Is this because I'm missing something and there are literally only three lynches to choose from?

Yes.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:11 am

Basically, a message came to tell me that we'd fallen in love and if one of us dies we both do.

However, F16's flip reveals that only lasts for today, so...

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:23 am

This day is stupid.

VOTE: No Lynch.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:30 am

It was farside's fault.

I believe it is an option, as Skybird was voting it and that showed up in the count.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:38 am

That's a good idea and everyone voting him probably needs to do it, especially if they haven't read the thread Espeonage.

We're in a good enough position, and seemingly have enough vigs, that we should be able to get away with a no lynch.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:49 am

Your theory doesn't account for gladiates.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:52 am

Yeah, that's what we've been doing all day, quite possibly.

I think we're going to get a lot of info out of this day eventually no matter how you slice it.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:14 am

I think I'm probably not going to ask that question because setup spec, but it unfortunately seems that we can't just clear vigs.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:14 am

It's a shame, really. It would've made things so much easier.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:54 am

I would like to take this moment to declare my wholehearted support for being referred to as Pumbaa.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:02 pm

In post 5899, ZeL1nK wrote:It could be argued that he was so confident that at least one of Ozgin and Pumbaa would flip scum that he was willing to take the gamble (this is the only reasonable explanation I could think of for this to be the case, but I don't see why he'd be so adamant about claiming it wasn't a lie or a gambit if this is the case)

Given his emotional state at the time and all around overconfidence as a player in the first place, this is what I think happened.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:02 pm

In post 5900, T S O wrote:It's entirely possible he despises Cephrir so much he was willing to be lynched if he was wrong without necessarily scumreading Cephrir strongly.

also

this

Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:09 pm

I'm taken, and I don't think he'd win that fight.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:47 pm

There are so many vigs in this game what the hell.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:53 pm

Then we just direct FT's dayvig tomorrow and it makes up for the lynch we're giving up today.

Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:56 pm

please agree to be directed so we can end this shitshow of a day

Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:50 am

In post 5938, mastin2 wrote:
In post 5860, vezokpiraka wrote:For anyone having trouble with Zelink posts: I started not reading them and my head doesn't feel like exploding anymore.
^This. I decided either scum or miniTWIE, so either way, win-win in getting rid of.

I don't know what was so difficult about them

Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:33 am

ace/skybird/tso

I also advocate against shooting ooba

Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:50 am

You seemed satisfied with my answer before. Why so nervous?

Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:13 am

So you've decided to OMGUS me because you're tired of it?

Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:24 am

Oh, so you must have a case on me then, or you wouldn't complain about my lack of case on you.

Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:30 am

In post 5961, ooba wrote:I'd put him as the same category as adorkable in Capcom. On the plus side, if he is scum, this should confirm both of us.

Please explain for the uninitiated

Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:35 am

Oh, good. What a relief.

Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:48 pm

In post 5975, T S O wrote:wow cephrir thank you for explaining your read on me after i asked you about 10 fucking times

well done warty

Did you want that? I kinda forgot I guess and/or it wasn't explicit enough to penetrate my thick skull.

What it boils down to is that the no time excuse doesn't really work for me. Town TSo doesn't have to be angry all the time, but I expect you to be passionate, and try to be proactive, but mostly the passion thing.

You clearly don't give a fuck about this game and that's why I think you're scum.

In post 5987, T S O wrote:I don't think I -can- anymore. This game broke something fragile in me a while ago and I haven't been able to get it back since.

...You were hardly even playing at the beginning, so... what? when?

Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:20 pm

You DO love me!

Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:02 pm

Andy may not have done a ton yet but I do like what he has done. Good tone.

ooba's done at least one quite town thing that i see no reason to discuss in the event all of us are actually town, which does seem possible to me

Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:10 pm

If I must choose, I choose Andy. I will admit your ooba case has some merit, and I've not been wowed by his responses, but there are other things that have worked for me. Heartless is just town.

Also, I am tired, so this is my last post tonight.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:34 am

In post 6037, ZZZX wrote:
In post 5974, TheWayItEnds wrote:I disagree.

I'm pretty sure that guy is teh scums.

I see your poi...

wait thats you....

also TWIE vs TSO felt weird. way too calm and non violent for a TvT. Yet not a single side dominating in a sense of TvS. Yet I dont get any reason why scum would do a SvS like that. Its prob a TvT thou..

In post 6042, ZeL1nK wrote:By the way, the point being made was that you calling your entire neighborhood town is counter-productive
IF
there are bad guys in it. Not that there necessarily must be bad guys in it.

Also, every single neighborhood in the game is saying their own neighborhood has no scum in it.

So what do you propose we do?

This person is a shining bastion of reason. This is exactly right. And everyone is doing this and it's kind of annoying.

In post 6046, ZeL1nK wrote:ZeL1nK, Imperium, Espeonage,
F-16
<---this hood thinks it's all town, but is probably right imo
Mastin2, Xombie, ZZZX <---this hood is weirdly defensive, I don't know if it's right but we have been assuming so simply because they've done it the hardest/most/earliest
TSO, Ozgin, Vezok, Magua <---this hood thought it was all town earlier and is almost certainly wrong
Ooba, Cephrir, Heartless, Andrius <---this hood mostly thinks it's all town but we maintain a healthy dose of paranoia
Metal Sonic-senpai, Skybird, TWIE <---this hood thought it was all town; it is almost certainly wrong
Farside, FourTrouble, Ankamius,
PV
<---probably scum here too
Theaceofspades, Mask,
AP
<---this hood has never claimed to think it was all town

This is the breakdown of hoods as far as I can tell

^How I see this issue.

In post 6051, ZeL1nK wrote:Also with everyone protecting everyone,
someone has to be wrong
.

So I value your opinion as much as I value the opinion of every other neighborhood claiming they have no bad guys in them.

i.e. Not at all.

I respect some players' opinions in this regard more than I do others, though.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:53 am

Oh good, interesting factors. How reassuring.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:15 am

That's not what he's saying at all.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:30 am

In post 6084, ZZZX wrote:
In post 6083, Cephrir wrote:That's not what he's saying at all.

He thinks we all are scum.

If we alla re scum then it just wouldn't make sense

Whate lse is he's saying?

Scumreading all three of you does not equal positing that all of you are scum.

In post 6086, Espeonage wrote:We had a chat earlier about the hoods overall, and we are in the process of testing a theory.

However we did get told very clearly by Dram to respect his fertile mind. And I have a personal theory that given the power that everyone seems to have that we actually have a type of hidden smalltown thing going. Which I think is probably the easiest non-arbitrary way of doing it. And it fits with the theory being tested.

Regardless, using neighbourhoods for scum hunting is bad.

I'm just going to quote this forever.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:31 am

I imagine the racist(s) had their role(s) distributed non-randomly but other than that.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:31 am

In post 6108, ZZZX wrote:
In post 6105, T S O wrote:Me and ZeL1nk have caused ~things~ to happen!

You revived the ancient ZZZX.

but basically your interaction was weird. but you two can get 2 mini town reads for now.

did you even read it

Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:40 am

Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:47 am

I guess I'm just a humorless Philistine.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:53 am

Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:22 am

In post 6125, TheWayItEnds wrote:It's not your fault.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:35 am

Troll brigade, do you guys need an intern? I want to dick around until someone finally puts this eternal day out of its misery.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:41 am

He'll never take your position. He's overqualified.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:46 am

*standing ovation*

Marvelous! MARVELOUS!

Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:53 am

I like how you pretended to explain the joke. The audience will probably miss the irony, and then the joke's on them!

Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:06 am

Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:31 am

It's not your--

Oh. Right. I was supposed to stop.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:12 am

In post 6157, Magua wrote:PEdit: I understand each of the words you said, and yet do not understand your meaning.

Let me translate: "I am somehow unaware there was a gladiate today"

Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:41 am

Sky bird is the one I'd most like to see die

Since it has been implied he's bulletproof or something maybe that's a poor choice

Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:26 am

In post 6193, T S O wrote:
In post 2074, TiphaineDeath wrote:I would also be perfectly happy with a PV lynch.

In post 2076, PeregrineV wrote:
As would I day2 or 3 or 4, depending on how night goes and if it can be managed right.

I would be okay with ZeL1nk being shot because of this - I don't like Pere's tone towards Tiphaine here. I think it's scum-scum.

Great analysis 10/10

Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:03 pm

In post 6201, Skybird wrote:
In post 6179, Cephrir wrote:Sky bird is the one I'd most like to see die

Since it has been implied he's bulletproof or something maybe that's a poor choice

Where was it implied that I was bulletproof? I'm most definitely not.

Sorry, I'm obviously playing so poorly you all are scum reading me. I'm not appealing to emotion here so don't go there. Just stating a fact.

It's been my experience that when a person scum reads you but won't state a case that person is scum. Otherwise why not state the reasons so they can be refuted? (If I can't refute the reasons, then that's my bad.) That is why I am scum reading Cephrir. He refuses to make a case on me.

-I am not the only one calling you scummy but you only care about my lack of case
-I just pointed out how you don't have one on your suspects either
-I will do it eventually if I have to in order to get what I want but it seems like people largely agree with me
-people do this all the time and it's not scummy

Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:38 pm

1. Okay, so ask everyone instead of just badgering me about it. And you're the one calling me scum, but not saying the same about anyone else who suspects you. THis is not an effective way to get my attention -- quite the opposite actually.
2. I completely agree with you. Neither of us is scum for that reason. My point was that you should stop using it.
3. Doubtful!
4. It's something that's frequently done. I absolutely could provide reasoning. I just haven't felt like it/don't need to yet.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:41 pm

yes let's keep clearing people based on their roles until we have cleared everyone

good idea

Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:54 pm

In post 6234, Magua wrote:And on a less sarcastic note, this isn't clearing-by-role. This is clearing-by-reaction. I can see a scum redirector. It'd make a shitload of sense in a setup like this. But I do not believe a scum-redirector would act like Skybird has acted.

well I don't agree~~~~~

Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:47 pm

Madness!

Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:17 pm

In post 6260, FourTrouble wrote:We're not lynching Today.

Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:39 pm

Make it so.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:35 am

Your attitude is a little odd given you're the one who put us in this situation.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:37 am

Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:37 am

I don't get why you spent that long trying to build consensus if you were just going to ignore it.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:39 am

I would think you'd be at least mildly apologetic given that no one wants any of these lynches

Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:20 am

You realize we're probably no lynching today because it sucks so much right

Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:23 am

You're fruitless

Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:36 am

TSO, Magua is literally town. There is almost no argument here.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:50 am

In post 6340, Magua wrote:
In post 6337, ooba wrote:^pedit: @TSO: I'm town reading Magua like 100% to the grave.

In post 6338, Cephrir wrote:TSO, Magua is literally town. There is almost no argument here.

I cannot adequately tell you how conflicted I feel to have a scumread and a paraonia-read say these things about me.

I don't think you completely understand the words that are being said here!

Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:18 am

What Zelink said.

Also, if you're going to change to Ozgin, please allow me to claim first so you can see why that's strictly negative utility.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:20 am

Well, ooba is town, which is the whole reason you're changing, so ???

Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:20 am

Yeah he's a pointless shot. If you need my claim to have the realization that shooting elsewhere is strictly better, then I'll do it.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:21 am

Ace is who we'd probably be lynching today if we were able to, which is what makes him the best target. We're going to lynch him soon anyways.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:26 am

He implied part of his role.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:28 am

Incidentally, if ooba is town, Zelink is also town.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:36 am

Yes I can.

If you can find me the scum motivation for thinking of the outbox thing in a world where ooba is town and deciding to go ahead and tell FT about it, go ahead.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:44 am

My scumreading theace is largely POE as well.

His stance on AP was weird and never made sense, and I prodded him about it multiple times but he refused to clarify.

And he's one of very very few players who have not at any point done a single thing to make me think they were town.

I'd shoot Skybird first if that were possible but apparently it isn't.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:46 am

I can try to look back through his posts and pull out things that read as somewhat scummy to me, but I feel like I'd basically be fabricating reasons for a 70% gut based read.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:14 am

If you shot Ozgin without letting me claim imma cut you. Just FYI.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:24 am

So I should claim now? Or are you determined to be antitown?

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:25 am

Whatever.

I'm a modified vig. If you want Ozgin dead, it's better to no lynch and tell me to shoot him. Strictly better.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:25 am

All my crumbs should make sense now.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:26 am

I don't see how that's relevant.

Also, the way in which I'm modified would make it difficult for scum to strategize how and when to fuck with me as long as I keep it to myself.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:29 am

Well FT, there you have it. Now all he can get is taking me down with him.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:31 am

There's nothing to gain from killing me here.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:31 am

(And unless you believe my stance on that slot has been scum theater -- which is ridiculous -- I don't think I need to finish this sentence)

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:32 am

fourtrouble.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:35 am

FT is essentially clear now, by the way.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:37 am

I guess I should start assuming I'm dead. I'm not 100% sure whether I should out the last thing I have to out to my neighborhood, or to here, or not at all.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:38 am

Perhaps obviously, that thing has to do with my crumbs around The Mask yesterday.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:43 am

You should care. There's no reason to ditch a townie along with him today when you could have a free lynch tomorrow or even vig tonight.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:43 am

Given that we're order aligned, I am assuming chaos is mafia.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:58 am

Read my posts, FT.

You're killing me for no reason and I'm clearly town. Let me shoot him.

Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:58 am

Please? I'm having fun

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:02 am

In post 11453, Metal Sonic wrote:
Cephrir: How do you feel about winning this game, yet having the record of your iconic Inuyasha Mafia broken?

What is your opinion on long games = scum wins?

It doesn't feel like as good a win as it would if I felt like I did anything to contribute to it.

Though learning that I died for reasons basically unrelated to my play was somewhat comforting.

Records exist to be broken, as much as I was hoping to fill that page with my games.

I don't know if there's a correlation, someone should do the math!

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:18 am

go for it

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:19 am

also can we talk about aps role now because what the fuck

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:24 am

In post 11471, Cephrir wrote:what the fuck

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:26 am

i.e. how is that not lying to the players

& moreover why did you do that even so

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:35 am

look at his role pm until you find the problem!

Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:58 am

i could see letting a third party know who the scum are, though i would never do that myself and it could have made the game totally stupid

i just don't especially appreciate being told he was mafia when he wasn't

there's no universe where that isn't lying

Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:59 am

if i sound upset about this, i dont really actually care, just.... if you're going to lie to the players, don't say in the queue that you aren't going to