SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Metal Sonic]

i realise ceph is just sitting on his big fat bum and laughing his ass off at the drama

oh man

that is so not town




also i have seen that solar wind extra suspected ceph but it died down (fear of wrong? paranoia?) and fourtrouble who has very strong cephscumread


also i saw that ceph crumbed lie detector and fake gambited lie detector so his crumbs of "omg my role is super cool" is bullshit. don't know why vezok wanted to save him.

also the real SK lie detector flipped so lmfao

[Metal Sonic]

but ceph has townread me in the early game and early reads and that makes me happy

i never seen ceph play so i dont know his meta

[Metal Sonic]

its better if i dont know someone's meta though. I get super paranoid if a particular player snows me more than once as scum even if he/she is my friend

><

[Metal Sonic]

@solar wind & fourtrouble

I want your updated reads on cephrir because you guys were the top 2 anti-cephrir pushers in day 1.

updated because reads can change

[Metal Sonic]

please prod bitmap

[Metal Sonic]

How is I can dayvig someone every three days a super protect?

Who said I had a super protect?

[Metal Sonic]

She was yelling that AP was town. Could be scummy, I've seen scum WK like that before, but probability is town from average player

[Metal Sonic]

I shld dayvig before I get NKED tonight y/n?

[Metal Sonic]

Hi mastin


Tell me your read on Cephrir

[Metal Sonic]

I want to slap TWIE because he's bad

[Metal Sonic]

She was yelling that AP was town. Could be scummy, I've seen scum WK like that before, but probability is town from average player

Say more on this. Is mastin an "average" player? If you've seen scum "WK" like that, why is mastin town for doing it?

If I haven't seen mastin play before, I would read it as town.

IF I didn't have mastin's meta, I would read it as town.


Hope that's clear

[Metal Sonic]

Mastin is not an average player. But paranoia ruins town. Unless I spot something scum from mastin (which is difficult to do), town for now

[Metal Sonic]

Mastin catchup looks town. She won't reply my question until later, though.

[Metal Sonic]

If AP wasn't scummy, how did solar wind catch him?

[Metal Sonic]

^ fake typos are scummy

[Metal Sonic]

Hey friends

Mastin did this in organic chemistry and was town.


I know, it could be faked. Could be attempt to subvert meta.

But Occam's razor, we have bigger scum to catch

[Metal Sonic]

Unless you're yyping on the phone, or have a faulty keyboard, I find It hard to believe that one can possibly make so many typos. No matter how fast I type, minimal typos. Even when I'm mad.


So, might be a scum tactic. Hm. Possibly.

[Metal Sonic]

I want to slap TWIE because he's bad

Do you read the preview edit?

What do you think about cephrir's botched claim/gambit?

[Metal Sonic]

You have a higher credibility rating in reading AP than FT or ACEOFSPADEs, granted,


But is it possible that solar wind caught something that you didn't? Perhaps you are better at reading AP than them. Or perhaps not.


It's a "maybe". Both f16 and fferys words carry weight. And they can see things that others can't.

Do you think it's "just luck" they caught 3rd party AP?

[Metal Sonic]

Actually, the better question is:

What if, ffery and f16 collectively are better at reading AP than you are? Now?

[Metal Sonic]

how often do you think ffery catches scum by just luck?

how often do you think f16 catches scum by just luck?

do you think I catch scum by just luck too?

[Metal Sonic]

also, i'd just like to tell you about the funny story where you hydra (died) on me where I was scum and got AP lynched.

now, THAT was funny

[Metal Sonic]

Depends on the game. I have had some very bad days.

For THIS game, though?

FUCK no.

but this game, its ffery + f16 in a hydra.

not ffery and f16 in the same town,

but in the same hydra.

won't you think that 2 AP experts in the same hydra would be actually able to read AP at superhuman levels? even super-msatin levels?

or no?

[Metal Sonic]

hi ooba

i notice that your play is markedly different from your mason play in both FFX and capcom and I am worried

[Metal Sonic]

and why does it get us nowhere? I was in the process of sorting mastin. and I have been receiving good town answers.

[Metal Sonic]

except the "fake typos" scumtell, but forgivable

[Metal Sonic]

sonic readlists

town

2. Metal Sonic
4. Skybird
23. Bitmap
7. TheWayItEnds
13. Solar Wind (F-16_Fighting_Falcon and fferyllt)
21. Magua
3. Mastin2
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) < ----- because governor claim
14. FourTrouble

not null but dont know

12. Farside22 (Gun to head: town)
22. vezokpiraka (Gun to head: scum)
16. Imperium (Tammy and Nacho) (gun to head: town)
6. Beastcharizard < ---- his vote PR looks towny but bad play (gun to head: town)
9. Ooba (gun to head: scum)
5. Theaceofspade (gun to head: town)

null

11. PeregrineV
17. RachMarie
19. Ankamius
10. ZZZX

scum

20. T S O
24. Xombie
8. TiphaineDeath
18. The Mask
15. Cephrir

[Metal Sonic]

8. TiphaineDeath


given that he complied with cephrir's gambit

inclined to think he's town

thats a good point

[Metal Sonic]

i need to read peregrine. i have played loads of games with him but i never get to catch his style. he is pretty, unmemorable

[Metal Sonic]

i'have taken a couple of meta from peregrineV. high chance that PV is scum. He isn't scumhunting. Organic Chemistry was one of his better scumgames.

[Metal Sonic]

relatively. as town he scumhunts even with VLA and his constant non presence.

as scum he doesnt. Organic chem there is a semblance, but its better, but not scumhunting truly either

[Metal Sonic]

he was an antitown lynch.. scumdriven, yes. but fferyslot isnt scum

[Metal Sonic]

scumdriven, yes.

arguably

[Metal Sonic]

farside's PV vote is town. I didn't like the PV post right before it either, but that's primarily because I don't like anything he's posted recently. They all feel like he's trying to cherrypick things that look like he's doing something but don't actually do anything.

Not really. I'm doing enough to stay engaged with the game because I want to play, but day1 on day1 is not a strength of mine, and I know it. I will cherrypick things that stand out or interest me, or talk to people about those things.

do you still want to play? i can relieve you of your misery.

[Metal Sonic]

i've check 8 games of your town and scum play,

terror in eagland
x men desp's game
marvel avengers
organic chem
ffx
knight errant 2
l4d2
locked in asylum


all of which i am in

boy we have lot of history. theres more, but cbf. for example death diner LOL

[Metal Sonic]

heartless. solar wind. magua.

three of you. i want you guys to chip in on PeregrineV. he hasnt posted much, but when has he ever?

this is serious, i think he is probably scum but im afraid of screwing it up

[Metal Sonic]

only the three of you cause anyone else is probably scum LOL

[Metal Sonic]

but fferyslot isnt scum

Yes they are; they've been in my townlist for ages.

It's IMPERIUM that isn't.

tell me about it. i cant read tammy, but i can read nacho.

fferyslot says that they dont read imperium as scum. so what's there?

[Metal Sonic]

note to self: pere's iso ends at 3287

[Metal Sonic]

Pere is also a lurker.


Zzzx is a good choice. But in capcom he was town.

[Metal Sonic]

I've already threatened mask. But it appears he is gone again.

Is he low hanging fruit?

[Metal Sonic]

heartless. solar wind. magua.

three of you. i want you guys to chip in on PeregrineV. he hasnt posted much, but when has he ever?

this is serious, i think he is probably scum but im afraid of screwing it up

Don't care if I'm scum or town. Answer this for the town record

[Metal Sonic]

Pere is also a lurker.


Zzzx is a good choice. But in capcom he was town.

Pere is also a lurker, but he sometimes does good stuff as town. Pere also isn't a low hanging fruit.

IDK if mask is lowhanging fruit. I've never played with him before.

I usually prefer seeing lurkers vigged, because lynching lurkers is painful.

I know. And he hasn't done good stuff all game.

Of course he isn't low hanging fruit. He is one of the most experience players here.


Mask, well, is unusual

[Metal Sonic]

heartless. solar wind. magua.

three of you. i want you guys to chip in on PeregrineV. he hasnt posted much, but when has he ever?

this is serious, i think he is probably scum but im afraid of screwing it up

Reposting for visibility, I hope I can see a respone by tomorrow

[Metal Sonic]

How can you possibly make these three posts in a row? It sounds like hydra dissonance, and you aren't a hydra.

this statement doesnt make sense.

but yes i agree with mastin town

[Metal Sonic]

Oh, I was kinda trying to read her. There's still something giving me a bit of pause on that front, but all the same, it was a major improvement.

When will you guys learn when I say you can trust me, you better damn well trust me?

Literally never

If AP wasn't scummy, how did solar wind catch him?

They didn't.

^ fake typos are scummy

Hey friends

Mastin did this in organic chemistry and was town.


I know, it could be faked. Could be attempt to subvert meta.

But Occam's razor, we have bigger scum to catch

Unless you're yyping on the phone, or have a faulty keyboard, I find It hard to believe that one can possibly make so many typos. No matter how fast I type, minimal typos. Even when I'm mad.


So, might be a scum tactic. Hm. Possibly.

How can you possibly make these three posts in a row? It sounds like hydra dissonance, and you aren't a hydra.

For anyone who's wondering, mastin is officially town forever as of this page.

I want to slap TWIE because he's bad

Do you read the preview edit?

What do you think about cephrir's botched claim/gambit?

Botched?

"crumb lie detector"

"crumb lie detector"

"make TD gambit lie detector"

"whoops! Im not a lie detector"


*real lie detector flips*


what on earth are you

[Metal Sonic]

The fuck is this shit? Your read of me changes every five minutes and seemingly in a 1:1 relationship with my read of you

um, no

[Metal Sonic]

You called her scummy, then town, then scummy again with nothing changing between the posts.

um. her fake typos are scummy. that doesnt mean that i think she is scum.


i already said that she is town. i forgave her scumtell.

[Metal Sonic]

"crumb lie detector"

"crumb lie detector"

"make TD gambit lie detector"

"whoops! Im not a lie detector"


*real lie detector flips*


what on earth are you

The success or failure of my reaction test is completely unrelated to the existence of an actual lie detector in the game. I don't know what you mean by "whoops". Retracting my implications was what I intended all along. Everything else I have said about my role stands.

.

i dont know whether to force you to claim

or to let you sit there.

.

[Metal Sonic]

3441 does not read like you think mastin is town at the time

oh, yeah. thats before i sorted her.

[Metal Sonic]

In fact, I had actually said at least one thing that contradicted the possibility that the thing I've been referring to is a lie detector.

i wasn't involved in the lie detector drama

so i wont comment further



all i can say

is that

piecemeal claims are scummy

and that is what you are doing, lie detector notwithstanding

[Metal Sonic]

oh hey, cool story, ooba's scum

what's this?

[Metal Sonic]

I'll end up doing it eventually.

There are pros and cons to claiming now as opposed to just proving it.

prove what? your power?

we dont need proof of power we are interested in proof of alignment.

unless its a governor, triple voter, friendly neighbor (a hem), dayvig (please CC me) or the like

there is nothing cool

[Metal Sonic]

for example, nobody gives a rat's ass if you can prove that you are a fruit vendor.

okay, maybe heartless.

you get the point

[Metal Sonic]

I'm having trouble keeping up with the arguments in this game.
I feel my brain wondering when I read another back and forth argument.

So I'm going to put most of the noise on ignore and look at the votes cast from day 1 and go from there today.

hi farside.

your new avatar is funny

[Metal Sonic]

does scum knowing that you have this ability allow them to subvert it?

[Metal Sonic]

if you claim it, will you be afraid of dying?

[Metal Sonic]

if you claim it, will you be able to be considered conftown?

will you require doctor support?

[Metal Sonic]

probably

what do you mean by "probably"? Is it an information-based action, or a night direct cause-effect action?


if you could be made unkillable for the rest of the game, would you claim your ability, knowing that scum might be able to subvert it in the way you think?

[Metal Sonic]

oh, ahhhh god damn it.

idiotic neighbor

[Metal Sonic]

I'm having trouble keeping up with the arguments in this game.
I feel my brain wondering when I read another back and forth argument.

So I'm going to put most of the noise on ignore and look at the votes cast from day 1 and go from there today.

hi farside.

your new avatar is funny

Thanks!

It's a pic of my son with a fake mustache.
Very appropriate avatar for mafia.



Ms: why is cephrir a scum read for you?

his posts hit quite a lot of my scum checkboxes.

but i am willing to give him townread based on his role

[Metal Sonic]

after my questioning

[Metal Sonic]

my patience is running low

but i must

endure

[Metal Sonic]

i am going to leave the thread

hope to see new insights in 24 h

i am very very very very very very very regretful that blonde replaced out

[Metal Sonic]

The good news is, there's one type of subversion that doesn't affect me as severely as it could!

you know i really wished you replaced blonde

you would probably be happier with your PR

[Metal Sonic]

*ahem*

[Metal Sonic]

can you use your PR tonight

[Metal Sonic]

if so, please do

[Metal Sonic]

you must. do it. tonight.

[Metal Sonic]

i mean

you wont be dying tonight

i am


im a godly dayvig

[Metal Sonic]

maybe i can be liberated

like in touhou

when i realise the town cannot win

maybe

maybe.

[Metal Sonic]

sonic readlists

town

2. Metal Sonic
4. Skybird
23. Bitmap
7. TheWayItEnds
13. Solar Wind (F-16_Fighting_Falcon and fferyllt)
21. Magua
3. Mastin2
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) < ----- because governor claim
Cephrir <---- PR claim
14. FourTrouble

not null but dont know

12. Farside22 (Gun to head: town)
22. vezokpiraka (Gun to head: scum)

16. Imperium (Tammy and Nacho) (gun to head: town)

6. Beastcharizard < ---- his vote PR looks towny but bad play (gun to head: town)
9. Ooba (gun to head: scum)
5. Theaceofspade (gun to head: town)

null

[/s]11. PeregrineV[/s]
17. RachMarie
19. Ankamius
10. ZZZX

scum

20. T S O
24. Xombie
8. TiphaineDeath
Imperium
18. The Mask

15. Cephrir

PeregrineV

I saw something in Imperium that I didn't really like. a lot. a LOT.might be wrong, though. i will know in dead thread

[Metal Sonic]

well what do you people think of ^?




Btw, not a dayvig threat. I'm removing either mask or PV. Not too sure about you, would rather have town collectively decide or lynch

[Metal Sonic]

Ok

[Metal Sonic]

heartless. solar wind. magua.

three of you. i want you guys to chip in on PeregrineV. he hasnt posted much, but when has he ever?

this is serious, i think he is probably scum but im afraid of screwing it up

Reposting for visibility, I hope I can see a respone by tomorrow

This is my appeal for consensus. Heartless ignoring me is suck

[Metal Sonic]

No ones going to lynch me once I claim unless everyone's just lost their marbles.

Ok. Keep your conftown claim like cephrir

[Metal Sonic]

If others believe you then I believe you

[Metal Sonic]

Capcom showed the play of TD and zzzx and their new bad downgraded play styles. Both were town.

[Metal Sonic]

Ankamius is playing well since touhou

[Metal Sonic]

Sine Arcshot: peregrineV

[Metal Sonic]

Of corse! SMITE gods weren't as smart as Euclid! Who the heck invented the word sine, anyway? We need mathdino!

[Metal Sonic]

You better buy it before it's sold out, my dearest hero

[Metal Sonic]

Most Educational Player: Antihero

For organic chemistry and some other math stuff

[Metal Sonic]

I'm sure pumba would make good use of it!

[Metal Sonic]

Can we all just sit back and watch the sine curve travel into peregrine's brain?

Or not?


It's my bedtime so I'll see if I am a shit player tomorrow

[Metal Sonic]

I mean


Cephrir is all good

I don't plan on reading heartless, town because claimed governor but really is null

[Metal Sonic]

Normally, daykills reset the vote count. Not sure why dram didn't include this feature.


Also, I suck at names.

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: vezok

Probably with PV. Might be wrong. Will ISO

[Metal Sonic]

Bitmap. I'm getting roleblocked for the night. Bring me into your hole again.

*i don't wanna die

[Metal Sonic]

Good thing I daykillled that scumbag so only I get affected


Also, to my knowledge silencers are usually night actions. PV's role said "silence someone for a day phase" so it sounds like a night action. Also, usually mod's will announce the silence otherwise the target night get kicked for lurking right

[Metal Sonic]

Bitmap. I'm getting roleblocked for the night. Bring me into your hole again.

*i don't wanna die

Only bring me into your hole before lynch lol. I want to talk in here.

[Metal Sonic]

So, Pere being scum didn't surprise you at all, but simultaneously you didn't actually think Pere was scum.

Like, I get that there's a tiny window of possibility of you being able to hold both beliefs together, but it seems an incredibly lazy and ambiguous stance, especially for you.

And the only mention of Pere in your ISO is you saying you don't want to lynch him - it feels like you didn't particularly support a wagon on him. And I don't see why you would oppose a Pere wagon if him flipping scum wouldn't surprise you.

Okay, look. I've played with Pere a couple times, including both as town and scum. I'm not surprised he's scum because process of elimination suggests he's probably scum, but that doesn't mean I had a scumread on him. He was null to me in a game with lots of players I townread, so yes he was scum via poe. But Pere has lurked hardcore in every I've played, so that's not a basis to push a lynch on him, at least not on D1. I already explained this -- when he starts posting more, I can read him pretty well, so I was waiting until D2 before coming to any conclusions.

i have 15+ games with peregrineV and i am glad that the information has helped in times of need.






on a side note, good thing i didnt let PV claim. if he claimed princess that would be cancer.

[Metal Sonic]

Do you remember when PV was town in Capcom and called for himself to be lynched, Sonic?

yes

[Metal Sonic]

Do you remember when PV was town in Capcom and called for himself to be lynched, Sonic?

I remembered it!

i dont remember you in the game!

[Metal Sonic]

I thought pv was town because he was softing beloved princess!

huh! i read his iso and i didnt see the "softs" :0

never mind it was alll bs anyway !!

[Metal Sonic]

I thought pv was town because he was softing beloved princess!

i read his ISO again and I STILL dont see the softs!!!!


are you imagining things !!!

[Metal Sonic]

This is true with the two flips and my own role, but all role power names in this game correspond to ability names in the MOBA, Smite.

Compare Fenrir's flip with MOBA equivalent and Kumbhakarna's role with his game character.

Sine Arcshot: peregrineV

This + kill going through confirms that MS is a Racist.

I'm pretty sure this happened because I was right about the evil character guess here and MS thought it would be better if he masked his day kill in the form of a more heroic\good character.

He either didn't realise the [role=ability names] thing or forgot when he posted in thread.

@Bitmap:

I wouldn't take MS into your neighbourhood. Mafia can waste their NK on him if they please.

---

I'll answer the heartless case here since it's related and the strongest point. Other points in a separate post.

a) You're right in that I correctly read MS as racist. I spotted something weird with his play - he barely cared that much on who he was pushing (nothing like the confidence\arrogance you saw in Capcom). On the other hand, he was far too useless to be Mafia. That, plus clues like calling his neighbourhood all town reaffirmed that. However, that doesn't require me to be Mafia. I have a history of making deductions like this as town.

b) Plus your case does not consider motives.

If I was Mafia, I would want MS removed from the game.

A third party killer is a liability to Mafia. [As evidenced by Pere dying].

I would have done the exact reverse as scum. Pushed his lynch through stating he's Mafia.

I would not have brought up the racist possibility.

lol

i am conftown.

sk is already dead. ur funny

[Metal Sonic]

I actually agree with mastin that SK=town play style (at least for good players) - but this D1 discussion gets us nowhere.

Let's talk about D2 please.

This is true with the two flips and my own role, but all role power names in this game correspond to ability names in the MOBA, Smite.

Compare Fenrir's flip with MOBA equivalent and Kumbhakarna's role with his game character.

Sine Arcshot: peregrineV

This + kill going through confirms that MS is a Racist.

I'm pretty sure this happened because I was right about the evil character guess here and MS thought it would be better if he masked his day kill in the form of a more heroic\good character.

He either didn't realise the [role=ability names] thing or forgot when he posted in thread.

@Bitmap:

I wouldn't take MS into your neighbourhood. Mafia can waste their NK on him if they please.

---

I'll answer the heartless case here since it's related and the strongest point. Other points in a separate post.

a) You're right in that I correctly read MS as racist. I spotted something weird with his play - he barely cared that much on who he was pushing (nothing like the confidence\arrogance you saw in Capcom). On the other hand, he was far too useless to be Mafia. That, plus clues like calling his neighbourhood all town reaffirmed that. However, that doesn't require me to be Mafia. I have a history of making deductions like this as town.

b) Plus your case does not consider motives.

If I was Mafia, I would want MS removed from the game.

A third party killer is a liability to Mafia. [As evidenced by Pere dying].

I would have done the exact reverse as scum. Pushed his lynch through stating he's Mafia.

I would not have brought up the racist possibility.

there is something very strange going on here.

Ooba and mastin said: "SK = town play"

ooba said: "metal sonic is not behaving as town, ergo he is SK"


i think your slanderous accusations are absurd and the angle you are pushing is like TWOH pushing bulbazak

[Metal Sonic]

I feel great about ooba actually, he and metal sonic probably move back up to my top tier.

i think vezok is scummy could you move a vote there please

[Metal Sonic]

no

why no

[Metal Sonic]

Vezok wagon best wagon.

Now seriously. Metal sonic is town. House and TSO are town also.
I still have no idea what's up with beast.

Ceph, don't tell me you're scum with Ms.

Ceph: thank me later.

vote ms

It's good that you're back. Time to die.

lol

[Metal Sonic]

I had a town read on the beginning on ms because his entry was townish. After that it dwindled and I expressed that in my neighbourhood. It slowly dwindled to a major scum read.

considering that was most people's approach to you this game, not surprising to me

why would it dwindle when i was away in another PT and silenced?

it is an easy and lazy way scum motivation trajectory.






also for some reason you missed the part about ceph "dont be scum with ms" "lol i protected you please thank me"

[Metal Sonic]

Piping into say I'm fine with everyone posting - nothing pinged my scumdar.

I really think lynching a lurker\low-poster would yield scum D1. Brantz is my pick. And not interested in lynching TD, Vezo or Mask in that list.

I like that.

Vote: Brantz

Tired so going to bed now, but biggest wagon + less posts than me=

Vote: AceofSpades

Vote: RachMarie

Counterwagon ho!!

Can someone link/explain the whole leaving thread thing yesterday?

Vote: Metal Sonic

can we just go on a tangent and say that these people are probably not scum

[Metal Sonic]

This is true with the two flips and my own role, but all role power names in this game correspond to ability names in the MOBA, Smite.

Compare Fenrir's flip with MOBA equivalent and Kumbhakarna's role with his game character.

In post 3598, Metal Sonic wrote:
Sine Arcshot: peregrineV

This + kill going through confirms that MS is a Racist.

I'm pretty sure this happened because I was right about the evil character guess here and MS thought it would be better if he masked his day kill in the form of a more heroic\good character.

He either didn't realise the [role=ability names] thing or forgot when he posted in thread.

@Bitmap: I wouldn't take MS into your neighbourhood. Mafia can waste their NK on him if they please.

Please respond to this part.

you can believe whatever you want, lol

your slippery slope holds 0 logic flow and is equivalent to "the sun is red because the sky is blue"

[Metal Sonic]

i dont have vezok scum meta oh well

[Metal Sonic]

Apparently some of the gods are not much for conversation...

PeregrineV, [KUMBHAKARNA, THE SLEEPING GIANT],

Mass Blocker Princess

, mafia-aligned, killed day 1!

-----------

Votecount 31: Shot through the flab!

Metal Sonic (6): Heartless, The Mask, Cephrir, Skybird, TSO, TiphaineDeath
TheAceofspades (3): Xombie, Ooba, vezokpiraka
RachMarie (2): Bitmap, Farside22
Mastin2 (1): FourTrouble
Ankamius (1): Magua
Skybird (1): Mastin2
BeastCharizard (1): Imperium
Magua (1): beastcharizard

Not Voting: Rachmarie, Ankamius, ZZZX, TheWayItEnds, Metal Sonic, Solar Wind, theaceofspades

23 alive means 12 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-03-02 00:00:00)

Dramonic, is it intentional for the votecount to not be reset after a daykill, or is it mod error?

[Metal Sonic]

Magua (1): beastcharizard

btw people notice that beast gains a 0.5 vote.

so far 2 anti-town has flipped

2 x 0.5 = 1

hmm

[Metal Sonic]

Vote: RachMarie

Counterwagon ho!!

yeah, farside now that you bring this up, this

... does the opposite of implicate rachmarie

i don't know what the word i'm looking for is (an antonym of "implicate") since i'm kind of stupid, but you get the point.

i have "exonerate"

[Metal Sonic]

This is true with the two flips and my own role, but all role power names in this game correspond to ability names in the MOBA, Smite.

Compare Fenrir's flip with MOBA equivalent and Kumbhakarna's role with his game character.

Sine Arcshot: peregrineV

This + kill going through confirms that MS is a Racist.

I'm pretty sure this happened because I was right about the evil character guess here and MS thought it would be better if he masked his day kill in the form of a more heroic\good character.

He either didn't realise the [role=ability names] thing or forgot when he posted in thread.

@Bitmap:

I wouldn't take MS into your neighbourhood. Mafia can waste their NK on him if they please.

---

I'll answer the heartless case here since it's related and the strongest point. Other points in a separate post.

a) You're right in that I correctly read MS as racist. I spotted something weird with his play - he barely cared that much on who he was pushing (nothing like the confidence\arrogance you saw in Capcom). On the other hand, he was far too useless to be Mafia. That, plus clues like calling his neighbourhood all town reaffirmed that. However, that doesn't require me to be Mafia. I have a history of making deductions like this as town.

b) Plus your case does not consider motives.

If I was Mafia, I would want MS removed from the game.

A third party killer is a liability to Mafia. [As evidenced by Pere dying].

I would have done the exact reverse as scum. Pushed his lynch through stating he's Mafia.

I would not have brought up the racist possibility.

oh ya btw

consider that AP is infinite bulletproof (in fact, he gets a doublekill if his BP is hit). lets imagine ooba is scum

ooba-scum cant NK me. the only way he can get rid of me is to lynch me (with his partners). seems like an easy job that I was considered "scummy" before i conftowned myself like a boss. now his trajectory is shit and he sounds like a flailing buffoon.

i could not ever in my life imagine ooba as a flailing buffoon with such crazy ideas as town. he never expected me to daykill scum correctly so that is an unexpected situation he had to handle. "doesn't look like scum, "strange" scum vibes", lol


meanwhile, now we imagine ooba is town

town wants to lynch scum. okay so SKs are anti-town, that i concede (hello mastin). the reasons for ooba saying "he does not look like scum. he must be SK" is underdeveloped, unsubstantiated, and very imaginary. considering that he subscribes to the belief that "SKs should play like town"



i'm not even going to begin on how anybody can conceive of the idea that there are two SKs in the game

[Metal Sonic]

ooba, was AP in your neighborhood?

Nope. If my calculations are correct, AP is in a three person neighbourhood. One person is 'The Mask' and one of {5. Theaceofspade, 10. ZZZX, 19. Ankamius}.

Re-read the game - House(Magua) is surely town. I also feel much better about FourTrouble and farside.

I'd be down with a MS lynch.

Vote: MS

Also, TD's bramble is probably his own use.

look at the above^

Why on earth did you consider the mod's sample role pm a remote possibility over docs, JKs and RBs?

I don't think that ultimate is a sample one. Probably under the control of another Egyptian is what I figure.

---

Hmm. Getting a very weird not-scum but scum feeling from MS.
- The insistence that Chinese neighbourhood is all-town
- Plus talking about SK in singular
makes me think he might be a chinese-pantheon racist. (http://smite.gamepedia.com/Zhong_Kui)?

I'm expecting one more racist + 4-5 scum team

@MS: Claim Racist and we'll let you live.

crazy attempt at justification LATER^


i think that he was planning to set me up for a lynch, but when i was so obv town he had to change angles.











or, ooba could be town and he's yelling about crazy stuff

[Metal Sonic]

I would have done the exact reverse as scum. Pushed his lynch through stating he's Mafia. I would not have brought up the racist possibility.

last 1

if you push my lynch saying that im mafia

and i shot pere correctly,


you would be left in a shittier position than you currently are and you have no choice but to townread me.

or risk calling the racist idea a little too late and risk getting lynched over it.

then after you imaginarily flip mafia, i will be even more super conftown than i currently am

meanwhile my imaginary racist bulletproof means that i will be invincible and gg Best Third Party.


so no, you would not push me calling me mafia as scum. you're more calculated than that. and your imaginary teammates with daytalk too.

/ahem/

[Metal Sonic]

You haven't addressed his point about your kill method, MS.

what about my kill method

[Metal Sonic]

i've quoted the post more than 3 times

what do you think?

[Metal Sonic]

sonic readlists

town

2. Metal Sonic
4. Skybird
23. Bitmap
7. TheWayItEnds
13. Solar Wind (F-16_Fighting_Falcon and fferyllt)
21. Magua
3. Mastin2
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) < ----- because governor claim
Cephrir <---- PR claim
14. FourTrouble

not null but dont know

12. Farside22 (Gun to head: town)
22. vezokpiraka (Gun to head: scum) <--------- interesting that i didnt change trajectory
Imperium (Gun to head:

town

scum)
6. Beastcharizard < ---- his vote PR looks towny but bad play (gun to head: town)
9. Ooba (gun to head: scum) <--------- same for you
5. Theaceofspade (gun to head: town)
TiphaineDeath (gun to head: town)

null

17. RachMarie
19. Ankamius

10. ZZZX

scum (i have too little scumreads this list is suspiciously empty

20. T S O
24. Xombie

PeregrineV

protected by someone

18. The Mask (Guarantor: Cephrir)
8. ZZZX (Guarantor: Mastin2)




p-edit: cool xpost. can compare with mine

pedit2: another long one by ooba

[Metal Sonic]

24 fucking pages in 3 fucking days.

Activity overview is telling me that I really, really, really, really want to lynch Imperium and then let Solar Wind by nk'ed. Holy shit, the two of you put together have a third of the posts in the game.

---

Like Solar Wind's push on Imperium, but *entirely dislike* Solar Wind outright saying it's a pressure vote. 3127 and 3134 are basically "We're going to vote you until you act in this way we're going to describe" and let me tell you how weird that reads.

Oh, drama llama, etc, etc, skipping.

People who don't know how to trim quote walls, skipping.

Mastin and Solar Wind arguing about something that's utterly pointless, skipping.

Weeeeeee.

@TheWayItEnds:

3328 is you saying you took House's vote. Why?

Mastin and Metal Sonic arguing about something that's utterly pointless, skipping.

HOLY SHIT METAL SONIC WAS ACTUALLY NOT TROLLING ALL ALONG WHAT A TWIST

Idea that AP was silenced yesterday is bullshit because he stillc ould've voted. He was just lurktastic. Goddammit, mastin.

---

Metal Sonic:

Guys, how many fucking times are you going to fall for a troll before you wise up?

Welp, guess that's not really relevant anymore. Can be town and ignored until lylo, revisit if still alive then.

Mastin2: You're town. Shut up about AP. If AP wanted to play as town, he could've, but town play there would've been to make everyone have a post that said "I am Order aligned." AP didn't do that. He hardlurked. Let your anger go, move on. But, you're still town. So.

Skybird: Literally nothing.

theaceofspades: Not really liking anything of his that I've read. Only redeeming factors are circumstantial, eg, Peregrine voting him.

Beastcharizard: Town. Useless town, but town.

TheWayItEnds: Slightly more town than TSO, but that's not saying much. Has had slightly more content, but in my mind I just keep falling back to "the TWIE and TSO show"

TiphaineDeath: Mostly town due to unprovoked claim on roleblocking mastin. If mastin's powers were such that he thought he was targeted for the kill and lived, I think he would've said so and/or pushed on Tiphaine. So I'm left with Tiphaine telling the truth.

Ooba: Meh. Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. Suspicious, see his rebuttal in 3719, but it doesn't ring true. Don't buy the thought process. Especially don't like the "If I was mafia, I would've done the reverse!" self meta.

ZZZX: Literally nothing except that mastin is super-100%-sure-he's-town.

Farside22: Has had posts. I've read them. Don't recall them. All pushes seem to be on easy targets, which isn't by itself terrible (I'm fine with lynching RachMarie, PeregrineV vote for her or no), but seems to lack self-awareness. They just seem to be flung out. Only one game with farside, btu I remember her having more developed thoughts than this. Scummy.

Solar Wind: Holy shit. You're town, but you both seriously need to realize you can close your mouth every once in awhile.

FourTrouble: He's done stuff. He's like TSO and TWIE but with more content and actual stances and thoughts and reasons and stuff. Find his posting stilted and not-fluid, unsure if that's just playstyle or not.

Cephrir: Don't like. Don't like the spammy nature, don't like the frequently drawn out off-topic posts. Blah blah D1 lie detector claim blah blah. However, given that I don't think mastin was roleblocked performing the mafia kill, Cephrir being protected by vezok is the best hypothesis for no kill. So until another one comes along or vezok flips scum,

saving for later possible mislynch

ignoring.

Imperium: Tammy is scum. Therefore Imperium is scum. Not

really

a joke.

RachMarie: Literally nothing

The Mask: Weird (affected?) posting style. Know very little about stances.

Ankamius: As close to nothing as possible to get without being nothing

T S O: Just shows up to complain. I like complaining, I'm a fan, but I really like it when other stuff is done besides complaining as well.

(inb4 "Yo dawg, I heard you liked complaining, so I'm complaining about your complaining" etc etc)

vezokpiraka: No lie, upon joining the game I sighed at this, but vezok's actually doing really well, and I can follow the thought process at work. Town.

Bitmap: The only thing I know is that he can imprison people. Other than that, nothing.

Xombie: The only things I've seen are "Replace me" and "Ok I'm staying"

Heartless: More town than Imperium (which is a low bar). Lots of questions. Reserving judgment.

---

So:

Town (S->W): Solar Wind --> mastin2 --> Metal Sonic ----------------> vezokpiraka --> beastcharizard --------> TiphaineDeath --> ZZZX (based off of mastin) --> Cephrir -------------> FourTrouble -> Heartless -> Bitmap

Scum (S->W): Imperium -> TSO --> Ankamius --> Skybird --> RachMarie ------> ooba --> farside --> TheWayItEnds --> aceofspades --> xombie

UNVOTE: Ankamius
VOTE: Imperium

i really like this post. mirrors a lot of my thought process. +1

very very well done we should hydra

[Metal Sonic]

sonic readlists

town

2. Metal Sonic
4. Skybird
23. Bitmap
7. TheWayItEnds
13. Solar Wind (F-16_Fighting_Falcon and fferyllt)
21. Magua
3. Mastin2
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) < ----- because governor claim
Cephrir <---- PR claim
14. FourTrouble

not null but dont know

12. Farside22 (Gun to head: town)
22. vezokpiraka (Gun to head: scum)

16. Imperium (Tammy and Nacho) (gun to head: town)

6. Beastcharizard < ---- his vote PR looks towny but bad play (gun to head: town)
9. Ooba (gun to head: scum)
5. Theaceofspade (gun to head: town)

null

[/s]11. PeregrineV[/s]
17. RachMarie
19. Ankamius
10. ZZZX

scum

20. T S O
24. Xombie
8. TiphaineDeath
Imperium
18. The Mask

15. Cephrir

PeregrineV

I saw something in Imperium that I didn't really like. a lot. a LOT.might be wrong, though. i will know in dead thread

If you are town and you are telling the truth about your role and this is a day VIG threat, let me know so I can claim.

magua, give me your thoughts on this

[Metal Sonic]

@Bitmap: Do not take him into your portal.

maybe if you have the slightest bit of town power or authority, maybe


but you dont. funny how you try to command one of the most towny

Bitmap, take me into your portal plz ty

dont listen to ooba he maybe scum

[Metal Sonic]

Imperium -> TSO --> Ankamius --> Skybird --> RachMarie ------>

ooba

--> farside --> TheWayItEnds --> aceofspades --> xombie

i see your name on the scum list............

[Metal Sonic]

Idea that AP was silenced yesterday is bullshit because he stillc ould've voted. He was just lurktastic. Goddammit, mastin.

correct.

plus, usually silencers resolve at night. to my knowledge

[Metal Sonic]

Like ooba has an excuse he couldn't read me outside of a paper bag.

Metal Sonic? Magua?

WTF

i always read you as town so i am very paranoid

[Metal Sonic]

you are not in my scum list

vote xombie

[Metal Sonic]

@Bitmap: Do not take him into your portal.

maybe if you have the slightest bit of town power or authority, maybe


but you dont. funny how you try to command one of the most towny

Bitmap, take me into your portal plz ty

dont listen to ooba he maybe scum

YOU ARE NOT A MASON, OOBA

[Metal Sonic]

@ Magua

re: TWIE andd Skybird,

I have had a nice long chat with the two of them in my neighborhood and have come to the conclusion that they are town. Skybird moreso.

so maybe I can be like a mastin and go "Skybird is town 100%", if something goes wrong, I take responsibility

[Metal Sonic]

I have a strong townread on Imperium. Less confident on the Magua town-read so Magua needs to explain.

I see a lot of Nacho and not a lot of Tammy. The Tammy I do see feels forced. I'm serious when I say my reasoning is "Tammy is scum so Imperium is scum."

I'm not seeing what you, Mastin, Ooba, and Metal are seeing. Tammy's posts have felt to me like her normal posts as town. How are they forced?

i always read tammy as town. this makes me paranoid cause she had me fooled in capcom.

this is a flaw of mine when someone beats me when they are scum i tend to be more paranoid of them.

i am aware of this flaw and will thus refrain from reading tammyslot

[Metal Sonic]

Hi mask

Are you my friend

[Metal Sonic]

I know what livid means!

[Metal Sonic]

You know what is funny

I can differentiate ffery and Nacho



But in imperium it takes me longer

[Metal Sonic]

Hi mask

Are you my friend

He's lets be friends

Tammy I get sad when you mad. Don't do
<3
I would like to hug everyone if I coluod. Magua -#1 suspect.

Okay. We are friends

Why you don't like magua? He looks friendly.

[Metal Sonic]

Hi mask

Are you my friend

He's lets be friends

Tammy I get sad when you mad. Don't do
<3
I would like to hug everyone if I coluod. Magua -#1 suspect.

Okay. We are friends

Why you don't like magua? He looks friendly.

How does he look friendly?

It says "Most Enjoyable Player" below his name! That means he is enjoyable and friendly! I think.

[Metal Sonic]

Magua bull*#%£ting



He's nice guy but not authentic when I know him be authentic. Will hug him in fallout.

Did you give a present to TSO and TWIE? Is it meant to be a surprise?

[Metal Sonic]

Can I sleep now? I think I'm better when rested and will sleep

Sonic we can be best friends forever? Who else join circle, I'm not sure about the troll pyramid . Been fucku before

TSO will get hug if town.

Hey! AoT account

Yes!!! Best friends forever!!


IF you have good presents for me best friend should give me best friend

But tonight I ask my other friend Bitmap to bring me to his fun holiday place so no presents tonight

[Metal Sonic]

Hi mask

Are you my friend

He's lets be friends

Tammy I get sad when you mad. Don't do
<3
I would like to hug everyone if I coluod. Magua -#1 suspect.

Okay. We are friends

Why you don't like magua? He looks friendly.

How does he look friendly?

It says "Most Enjoyable Player" below his name! That means he is enjoyable and friendly! I think.

Enjoyable people do not condone personal attacks in games. They do not fo oh look this person is personally attacking this person, they're my favorite person. Oh look at the person they're attacking, I'll call that person scum.

That does not happen.

Where were there personal attacks? I heard that f16 had some but that has since been resolved.

[Metal Sonic]

It's resolved now, but is it because he's a guy and I'm a girl so it was justified and he's right and strong town and I was wrong so I'm scum even though I was the one called a bitch?


I don't understand why there would be such a strong disparity for any other reason?

I'm not in your hood so i don't know what went on but this looks like a misrepresentation to the uninformed observer!

[Metal Sonic]

Mastin, if I am such a scum, why would I make this post in the last hours of day 1? I volunteered to be the day one lynch so we wouldn't have a no lynch.

Several of you have read me as scum. Can you flashwagon me? Town needs a flip.

Because you knew it would never happen, it was not viable, and especially without scumbuddies supporting it, would never happen? It's a shot for cheap towncred. Knowing AP would flip town (well, "knowing"), the act of offering yourself up would look town.

But there was zero follow-through.
No self-vote.
No attempt to lynch yourself.

You're speaking to the person who named the Mastin Gambit, of self-voting to save the life of another player and advocating your own death. I know what it looks like. And what you did was like my Paranoia halfhearted mimicry of it: going through the motions, but being insincere about it.

Skybird is town

And I am very sure

[Metal Sonic]

And yes, it's resolved now and I don't want to make it seem like it's not, but like seriously wtf is wrong with you?

Southern belles being scum is wrong

[Metal Sonic]

vote xombie

Xombie is also town. Don't touch him, either.

Uh, what?

Is it 100%?

[Metal Sonic]

And yes, it's resolved now and I don't want to make it seem like it's not, but like seriously wtf is wrong with you?

Southern belles being scum is wrong

No, what's wrong is having my playstyle both town and scum openly mocked, being personally attacked including bring called a bitch, and for everyone in this game to think that makes them the strongest town ever and somehow because of his personal attacks against me that makes me scum.

There is something wrong here.

Yes, it's resolved now, we've talked through it.

But there is something seriously serioulsy wrong when people stroking town read someone because they've personally attacked someone and scum read the person they've attacked for it.

That's wrong. That's fucked up.

Oh yes, that's wrong. Who is the culprit?

[Metal Sonic]

Who's scum reading us?

That's why they are. There's no other reason besides thinking the attacks are cool and hating me for it.

Did they say that?

[Metal Sonic]

The mod announced that TD has brambles. Not TD himself. Where Is the lie? Maybe I didn't catch it

[Metal Sonic]

Who's scum reading us?

That's why they are. There's no other reason besides thinking the attacks are cool and hating me for it.

Did they say that?

What's your read of solar wind?

Strong town for what I remember?

You've been calling us scum. Must be a reason. Ten bucks it's because solar wrote a ton of shit against me. It's literrally the on,y reason anyone could think we're scum.

Can I take your 10 bucks?

[Metal Sonic]

The mod announced that TD has brambles. Not TD himself. Where Is the lie? Maybe I didn't catch it

How do yu think he got brambles?

I think someone used brambles attack on him

The effect of brambles is currently unknown

[Metal Sonic]

vote xombie

Xombie is also town. Don't touch him, either.

Uh, what? Is it 100%?

I already said too much by defending ZX; don't make me say too much on Xombie, too.

Should nobody target you? That means that scum shouldn't touch you either, right?

I find it hard to believe that you can call two different people 100% town in only just one night passed, so I'd really like you to elucidate

[Metal Sonic]

If that is the case, then the question is. Not "is ZX town", but is "is mastin town"

[Metal Sonic]

Will you ask dram?

I am doing what I can.

If it helps, though, TD's roleblock on me would not have succeeded. Side-effect of my decision to no-action last night.

How in the literal hell did you get 100% town on zx and xombie...

I have an idea, actually, but I am not inclined...

[Metal Sonic]

Who's scum reading us?

That's why they are. There's no other reason besides thinking the attacks are cool and hating me for it.

Did they say that?

What's your read of solar wind?

Strong town for what I remember?

You've been calling us scum. Must be a reason. Ten bucks it's because solar wrote a ton of shit against me. It's literrally the on,y reason anyone could think we're scum.

Can I take your 10 bucks?

Well there's no other reason for anyone to think I'm scum than they think that personal attacks are okay or why would solar wind be the top town read??????? And apparently I'm scum because I've been attacked.

Like its so fucking typical.

It's just sad who's endorsing it because thre used to be respect there.

Solar wind is the top town read because there is ffery and f16

Whether you are in the game or not is irrelevant

[Metal Sonic]

vote xombie

Xombie is also town. Don't touch him, either.

Uh, what?

Is it 100%?

So. Are you going to be xombie's guarantor as well?

[Metal Sonic]

I'm irrelevant

to the read of solar wind, yes.


I still love you <3

[Metal Sonic]

I need to turn off my 4g before my battery dies, bye

[Metal Sonic]

Not when your alignment is very questionable

[Metal Sonic]

Interesting...

[Metal Sonic]

Who wrote that

[Metal Sonic]

Yes. Not to that high a level, though. You never snowed me before so I usually am comfortable with reading you town

[Metal Sonic]

my relationship with MOLLIE for example is a love hate

I love her

Yet

This paranoia aspect of me prevents me from getting in a game with her and having smooth sail unless she gets conftown somehow

[Metal Sonic]

i've quoted the post more than 3 times

what do you think?

I think you didn't address the lore concern at all.

lol

i am conftown.

sk is already dead. ur funny

there is something very strange going on here.

Ooba and mastin said: "SK = town play"

ooba said: "metal sonic is not behaving as town, ergo he is SK"


i think your slanderous accusations are absurd and the angle you are pushing is like TWOH pushing bulbazak

you can believe whatever you want, lol

your slippery slope holds 0 logic flow and is equivalent to "the sun is red because the sky is blue"

Quoting the post and saying "lolnope" doesn't address it.

Let ooba push for himself lol.

Yes, "lolnope" is all I can say to "ur scum"

[Metal Sonic]

note to self: "i need to be more concise"

i literally wrote so many words for something that can be summarized in "lolnope"

it
is
a
skill

[Metal Sonic]

i think im playing like town me

[Metal Sonic]

i sense something sneaky and hidden implications going on...


if this were a real life thing you can see me get serious

but it is a game
where i am conftown

[Metal Sonic]

"What are you insinuating?"

[Metal Sonic]

i just shot scum

[Metal Sonic]

sounds good

[Metal Sonic]

i also made antihero a monkey's uncle

[Metal Sonic]

why? i want him to target me today.

[Metal Sonic]

it is a boon.

it makes him apathetic but meh

[Metal Sonic]

whats wrong with wanting to preserve my life?

[Metal Sonic]

Okay, I want you to look very closely at the next image




look over there. it says YOUR DAYKILLER WILL BE ROLEBLOCKED FOR THE NIGHT.

THATS RIGHT

I HAVE NO ADVANTAGE TO GO INTO THE NIGHT TONIGHT

NORMALLY IF WE DIDN'T KNOW BITMAP HAS THIS SUPER COOL COMMUTER HIPSTER ABILITY, THE BEST I COULD DO IS TO GET A DOC PROTECT

NOW WE DO

IF THERE IS A GOOD WAY THAT I CAN STAY ALIVE TONIGHT 100%

THEN WE DO IT


I took the goddamn fall for the town

unless i get a confirmed protect (who on earth is going to claim a protective role, please hit your head on the wall)

I am a sitting duck

without me, half of the town would lose their action tonight

without me, PV would be in time to claim beloved princess and be able to weasel his bum out of a tasty lynch

PV would have the time to use his ulti to silence someone and get his team fish for another free mislynch





SO YOU WILL FORGIVE ME IF I ASK FOR THE NUMBER 1 COMMUTING SERVICE TO BE USED ON ME TONIGHT

[Metal Sonic]

i obviously cannot self protect or self pgo tonight because i have been roleblocked thats a great time for the scum to kill me dontcha think

[Metal Sonic]

I made skybird claim in the neighborhood and his claim is

very town

So I will vouch for skybird like how mastin vouch for ZX

Skybird is 100% town.

ahem

[Metal Sonic]

There has absolutely got to be something to be found in the almost-PV-votes we've had. Someone in there was intentionally not lynching him.

no. there was never a wagon on PV. even if his scumbuddies wanted to bus him (note: never happened), they could bail at the last minute for ~reasons~ knowing that they will eat a roleblock.

one tip I gave to my neighborhood is to look out for who was waffling on a PV read prior to me announcing to shoot him.

like

"oh PV is null"

"nullscum"
"nulltown"



which is hard to differentiate town from scum saying that, because

honestly PV really is null

[Metal Sonic]

There are like a million claims in this game that are supposedly 100% town and I don't believe it's possible that all of them are town.

not really a million

but if skybird is scum i WILL eat a donkey's uncle


thats how sure I am that he is town

[Metal Sonic]

Oh, and I'm not exactly vouching for Mask being town. I am just vouching that lynching him isn't a thing we should do.

we'll know in due time

[Metal Sonic]

There has absolutely got to be something to be found in the almost-PV-votes we've had. Someone in there was intentionally not lynching him.

no. there was never a wagon on PV. even if his scumbuddies wanted to bus him (note: never happened), they could bail at the last minute for ~reasons~ knowing that they will eat a roleblock.

one tip I gave to my neighborhood is to look out for who was waffling on a PV read prior to me announcing to shoot him.

like

"oh PV is null"

"nullscum"
"nulltown"



which is hard to differentiate town from scum saying that, because

honestly PV really is null

Right, I know there was never a wagon on PV.

I'm saying there probably should have been one. It was brought up; who resisted it?

My feeling is that even though scum would be okay with lynching PV, they would rather get him nightkilled.

who is going to resist something that gives the town a full roleblock for a night?


given PV's role, this line of questioning will bear no fruit. I've discussed this in detail (with myself) in the neighborhood

[Metal Sonic]

MS, have you actually defended yourself against ooba's post yet? As in, legitimately?

hahaha screw ooba and his bs post

[Metal Sonic]

Though I must confess, there's something I feel like Mask should have reacted to, and he hasn't.

Maybe he's just smart enough to realize, as I have, that it's not actually relevant.

I think Mask is smart, he is just not a native English speaker.

He is also an alt. I have a guess but meh, irrelevant

[Metal Sonic]

nightkilled.

AP died d1.

[Metal Sonic]

nah, he has more shots

[Metal Sonic]

who is going to resist something that gives the town a full roleblock for a night?


given PV's role, this line of questioning will bear no fruit. I've discussed this in detail (with myself) in the neighborhood

Dayskip seems better.

what i meant to say was:

scum is going to be like "lol, go ahead and lynch PV, I'm not stopping you"

they won't resist the lynch.

how are they going to lure a nightkill onto PV? once he flips scum the instigater will be in a little bit of poo.

so "let nature take its course" aka "NO ASSOCIATIVE TELLS"

[Metal Sonic]

There are always associative tells.

Associatve tells are the best scumhunting method in existence.

That's why the scum want you to hVe less of those

[Metal Sonic]

I also still want a real response to that ooba post because the more it gets ignored the more it sounds like a slam dunk

Apparently I failed reading comprehension so why doesn't FFery our English major tell me the point of ooba 's post that I am "supposed" to rebut

"Supposed" because I don't have to respond to that nonsense actually

[Metal Sonic]

I also still want a real response to that ooba post because the more it gets ignored the more it sounds like a slam dunk

The only way to slam dunk metal sonic scum is to catch him with a night action

[Metal Sonic]

>:(

[Metal Sonic]

So, can I have your ten bucks now :p

[Metal Sonic]

If lynching Mask wasn't off the table, I need to know how people would feel about it.

Mask just reached out to me. I'd like to townread him.

Plus, you're the one who "cleared" him lol

[Metal Sonic]

Timestamps are US Pacific time (GMT-8)

Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:26 am

Votecount 28: I wanna hit 100!

Metal Sonic (3): Heartless, VezokPiraka, Ooba
Ankamius (1): Magua
Skybird (1): Mastin2
Magua (0.5): beastcharizard

Not Voting: theaceofspades, Rachmarie, Ankamius, TSO, Skybird, Imperium, The Mask, Solar Wind, FourTrouble, Xombie, Cephrir, ZZZX, PeregrineV, Farside22, TheWayItEnds, TiphaineDeath, Bitmap, Metal Sonic

24 alive means 13 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-03-02 00:00:00)

Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:39 am -

Such a wonderful day!

Mastic you are beautiful! I said the same thing about AP's lynch in my neighborhood.

On that note, I fear that perhaps another racist will target my pantheon and do not wish to disclose who else is in the PT. Could it be you, Magua??? Say it isn't so!

AP had 1 post saying he feels farside may be town (dated January 25th).

Oh, if only we could get scum to walk away. It pains me to do this but I have no other way of winning! I love you Sonic!

Vote: Metal Sonic

You should claim your motivation before I DAYVIG your face off

Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:04 pm

Votecount 29: I am very much amused.

Metal Sonic (5): Heartless, The Mask, Cephrir,

PeregrineV, Skybird

TheAceofspades (3): Xombie,

Ooba

, vezokpiraka
Mastin2 (2): theaceofspades, FourTrouble
Ankamius (1): Magua
Skybird (1): Mastin2
BeastCharizard (1): Imperium
Heartless (1): Farside22
Imperium (1): Solar Wind
Magua (0.5): beastcharizard

Not Voting: Rachmarie, Ankamius, TSO, ZZZX, TheWayItEnds, TiphaineDeath, Bitmap, Metal Sonic

24 alive means 13 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-03-02 00:00:00)

I would like to remind everyone of rule 22:
22) Policy: Have fun. Or else. And remember, it's a game - keep it classy and don't take things personally; everyone's doing what they have to to win.

I'm a nice guy, but I seriously don't give a flying fuck about your personal vendettas. Keep em out of the game.

Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:07 pm

Votecount 30: 70% to go boys and girls!

Metal Sonic (7): Heartless, The Mask, Cephrir, PeregrineV, Skybird,

TSO, TiphaineDeath

TheAceofspades (3): Xombie,

Ooba

, vezokpiraka
Mastin2 (2): theaceofspades, FourTrouble
Ankamius (1): Magua
Skybird (1): Mastin2
BeastCharizard (1): Imperium
Heartless (1): Farside22
Imperium (1): Solar Wind
RachMarie (1): Bitmap
Magua (0.5): beastcharizard

Not Voting: Rachmarie, Ankamius, ZZZX, TheWayItEnds, Metal Sonic

24 alive means 13 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-03-02 00:00:00)

In our neighborhood bitmap made a post Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:28 pm, saying that ms had confirmed all of the abilities that his neighborhood had reported, basically everthing except the day 1 daycop stuff.

Shortly after that, TD voted MS. I pointed out to him that Bitmap had confirmed the abilities in our neighborhood.

And his own neighborhood had been aware of the claimed abilities, though there was skepticism voiced.

Anyway, PV's vote suggests to me that scum either didn't realize MS claimed dayvig in his neighborhoods, or they thought he was gambiting. I'm leaning toward the former.

ooba jumping off the wagon at that point is interesting, but I'm not sure it's alignment indicative.

Is there something I don't know? What is this?

[Metal Sonic]

Votecount 32: I won't reach 100 if I don't VC more often :<

TheAceofspades (3): Xombie, Ooba, vezokpiraka
RachMarie (3): Bitmap, Farside22, Heartless
Skybird (2): Mastin2, Cephrir
Magua (2): beastcharizard, The Mask
Metal Sonic (1): TSO
Mastin2 (1): FourTrouble
BeastCharizard (1): Imperium
Bitmap (1): TiphaineDeath
Xombie (1): Metal Sonic
Imperium (1): Magua

Not Voting: Rachmarie, Ankamius, ZZZX, TheWayItEnds, Solar Wind, theaceofspades, Skybird

23 alive means 12 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-03-02 00:00:00)

I don't like the spread of this VC even more than I don't like the VC with the scums voting for me

[Metal Sonic]

Is there something I don't know? What is this?

Wagon analysis is not my forte, but we know that some players knew about your claimed abilities - and not just the players in your own neighborhood. bitmap shared it in our neighborhood.

What I was/am trying to figure out is if that knowledge affected how your wagon formed. PV voting you suggests to me that either he had no idea you'd claimed dayvig privately, he thought you were bluffing, or he thought you were going to shoot a townie.

And if he thought that, so did the rest of his team, probably.

Of those three possibilities, I think the first is the most likely. If I were groupscum I would NOT want to crowd a potential dayvig into taking a shot.

Catch me up about the leak about me being a dayvig. As far as facts go, PV didn't post between the 24h me claiming to shoot him and me actually shooting him,I need you to clarify your point because I am involved and even I don't get it

[Metal Sonic]

I claimed DAYVIG BECAUSE I was confident that there is no scum in my neighborhood, lol

[Metal Sonic]

That doesn't ezclude them from being bad, though. Quite disappointed with what some of the are doing/did but that's domestic, I'll handle that

[Metal Sonic]

Next thing, what did you expect PV to do, even if he knew that I had a dayvig. My announcement to kill him and the act of doing so, between that time PV didn't post or didn't check the thread.

[Metal Sonic]

Next thing, what did you expect PV to do, even if he knew that I had a dayvig. My announcement to kill him and the act of doing so, between that time PV didn't post or didn't check the thread.

That's kinda beyond the point in time I'm trying to figure out.

You claimed to bitmap well before that threat to dayvig Mask. Did you claim in your pantheon before that post?

i claimed to bitmap before my pantheon

[Metal Sonic]

yes

[Metal Sonic]

also,


it appears that the ace wagon is scumdriven. PeregrineV was on it. so will be the scum. I'll look there

[Metal Sonic]

*was

[Metal Sonic]

PV was a lurker, but PV is always a lurker. looking for the scum among lurker is looking for scum my playstyle. unh-unh

[Metal Sonic]

Theaceofspades (4):

AngryPidgeon,

Farside22, TiphaineDeath, vezokpiraka
vezokpiraka (3): Skybird, Aeronaut
FourTrouble (2): The Mask, Ooba, iHouse
TiphaineDeath (2): FourTrouble, Cephrir
AngryPidgeon (1): theaceofspades
BRantz (1): PeregrineV
Cephrir (1): Xombie
The Mask (1): Ankamius
theaceofspades (1): RachMarie
-Blonde- (1): Mastin2
Imperium (1): TSO
iHouse (0): beastcharizard
Not voting: ZZZX, Solar Wind, VysePresident, imperium

Theaceofspades (8):

AngryPidgeon

, Farside22, vezokpiraka,

mastin2, xombie,

PeregrineV

,

Cephrir

, Rachmarie
FourTrouble (1): The Mask, iHouse
vezokpiraka (1): Skybird
TiphaineDeath (1): FourTrouble
AngryPidgeon (1): theaceofspades
Rachmarie (1): Ooba
Cephrir (1): TiphaineDeath
iHouse (0): beastcharizard
Not voting: ZZZX, Solar Wind, VysePresident, imperium, TSO, Ankamius, Aeronaut

[Metal Sonic]

farside is always town

but what if farside is not town

[Metal Sonic]

Shit, I don't know who said that.

TAMMY?

[Metal Sonic]

Nacho?

[Metal Sonic]

hi mastina finally someone else here in the game

[Metal Sonic]

I have been watching the thread for 2-3 hours, but nobody

[Metal Sonic]

sonic readlists

town

2. Metal Sonic
23. Bitmap
7. TheWayItEnds
13. Solar Wind (F-16_Fighting_Falcon and fferyllt)
21. Magua
3. Mastin2
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) < ----- because governor claim
Cephrir <---- PR claim
14. FourTrouble (may need to refresh read)

not null but dont know

12. Farside22 (Gun to head:

town

scum)
22. vezokpiraka (Gun to head: scum) <--------- interesting that i didnt change trajectory
Imperium (Gun to head:

town

scum

???)
6. Beastcharizard < ---- his vote PR looks towny but bad play (gun to head: town)
9. Ooba (gun to head: scum) <--------- same for you
5. Theaceofspade (gun to head: town)
TiphaineDeath (gun to head: town)

null

17. RachMarie
19. Ankamius

scum (i have too little scumreads this list is suspiciously empty

20. T S O

PeregrineV

protected by someone

18. The Mask (Guarantor: Cephrir)
8. ZZZX (Guarantor: Mastin2)
Xombie (Guarantor: Mastin2)
Skybird (Guarantor: Metal Sonic)