InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[zMuffinMan]

so your role is hakudoushi, town demon ascetic shardholder?

[zMuffinMan]

can you give me any flavour in your role pm plx

[zMuffinMan]

any and all*

[zMuffinMan]

PV

you can't just post then disappear and blue ball me

[zMuffinMan]

nah i meant flavour regarding abilities (if there is any) not general flavour

as in why do you have a shard, according to your role PM?

[zMuffinMan]

ok i just looked at my role PM again and my quote is fucking hilarious

gj cephrir

[zMuffinMan]

it's not happening today but if oversoul ever flips scum i think there's a decent chance neil could be his buddy

[zMuffinMan]

This wagon on me is nothing more than scum discrediting my VCA and pushing through my lynch bc I am good as scum.

nah i actually think kagami has a point that you shouldn't have started with a shard

which is why i keep asking if there's flavour that explains it

[zMuffinMan]

That first paragraph game was an NY game with Turkish Vsn and Kubliah Khan.

eHheHEhehhehEhHEhhEHhEHh

[zMuffinMan]

i'm considering whether they fucked up their claim vs whether ceph is putting it in just because (in the same way mhork, if town, is town just because)

[zMuffinMan]

You of all people should see the parallels and vote for someone who actually could be scum.

tbh im coming around to the idea that if you're scum, you're SK

though i'm not sure cephrir gives naraku a hakudoushi fake-claim

dunno

im thinking about it

youre probably not bo7

[zMuffinMan]

oh riiiiiiiight

cephrir was the mod i was thinking about who didn't used to randomise fake-claims but now does

never mind my hakudoushi-not-naraku speculation

[zMuffinMan]

Shos is pretty obviously the SK

i doubt it

[zMuffinMan]

no flavour is still somewhat relevant in the grand sense of things, i think

i'm still considering how likely it is that cephrir would throw a curveball in by having a shardholder who is ascetic (unlike the other one) and shouldn't really have a shard by flavour (at least not in the same sense)

[zMuffinMan]

Shos is pretty obviously the SK

i doubt it

What about my rationale is flawed?

if he's SK he somehow guessed wind scar makes sense off my character without even knowing what my character was

more likely scenario here is he's actually inuyasha

[zMuffinMan]

He'd have to be ninja flavor cop ascetic to be the SK, which makes no sense.

even if that did make sense, i believe he genuinely had no fucking clue who i was

[zMuffinMan]

no flavour is still somewhat relevant in the grand sense of things, i think

i'm still considering how likely it is that cephrir would throw a curveball in by having a shardholder who is ascetic (unlike the other one) and shouldn't really have a shard by flavour (at least not in the same sense)

7770

~P

i am aware of why you exist if you are what you say you are, at least in terms of general game mechanics and such

that's not what i'm thinking about

[zMuffinMan]

Shards transfer via kill.

so you're killproof and ascetic?

key phrase is "while we're alive"

[zMuffinMan]

yerp

[zMuffinMan]

the ninja modifier would be the puppets

i do not think the SK is

actually

a ninja for anything outside of the kill, meaning if the SK has other abilities, they can still be tracked using them

[zMuffinMan]

So you think the mod made it so that there is no other way for them to do it except to hammer or kill the ones that have it?

well scum have a flipped shard thief (1-shot) and i bet the SK has a shard thief ability, too (which is why i brought up the possibility of prohawk being SK - also fits with my idea that the SK is only immune to being tracked to kills)

If Puppetmaster makes you kill (cause you a puppet, right?), does he have to target you?

presumably no but i dunno if there's a precedent to compare with (i know the role has been used before in some form but i can't remember where) and i donno if cephrir would necessarily have the same ideas about it

You do realize from our previous games that the moment you have logic fails I REALLY REALLY scumread you hard.

i don't actually care

I have never seen an SK on mafia scum have any modifer but investigation immune and bulletproof. Here suggesting the sk has such sbilities is widely inconsistent with evidence.

then you're one of the lucky ones who hasn't played with many SKs

[zMuffinMan]

i mean i can think of 3 recent SK roles that had more modifiers than just ii or bulletproof

gif's touhou game, nati's jrpg game and bork's xenosaga (if you include global roleblocker as a modifier)

[zMuffinMan]

Zmuffin I wasn't in any of those. I don't recall the other two but xenosaga does not seem recent.

well i mean it's not *every* game that you see a SK and it's not *every* game that they're unique

gif's touhou game ended in april
xenosaga ended in april too

these are both within the last half a year, ergo recent in the grand scheme of things (half a year isn't that long in terms of mafia games, really)

[zMuffinMan]

sure, whatever

we could also just use the SK role in the previous cephrir large theme, which not only interacted with the mechanic (to make a SK baby), but also was a modified JOAT (that, iirc, had the same name as xof's role, which is another curve ball i'm guessing cephrir threw into the setup for anyone who played or read FEA)

[zMuffinMan]

Spoiler:

Robin

: "I'd never assume that! What kind of monster would curse their friend..."

Tharja

: "...Oh. Right. That would be crazy! Heh heh."

Welcome to Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia, Saki. You are

Tharja, Neutral Female Childbearer Hexmage Inquisitive Serial Killer

.

Abilities:

Proposee

(passive): As a female, during the day you may receive proposals from male players. If you do, I will notify you of this and tell you the screen name (not rolename) of the proposer. You will have the rest of the day, plus the first 24 hours of night, to decide whether to accept. If you do, the two of you become a neighborhood.

Childbearer

(passive): If you successfully marry another player, your child, Noire, will enter the game the following day and join your family neighborhood. Unlike most children in the game, you know that Noire will by default enter the game as a Neutral player and will join you to become a miniature mafia. However, you also know that she is only guaranteed to share your alignment if your husband is Town. As such, marrying a town-aligned player is likely in your best interests.

Inquisitive

(semi-active, 1-shot): To help ensure you can find a town-aligned husband, you have a one-shot ability to investigate a player proposing to you (you may do this during the Day or during the first 24 hours of Night). You will learn whether or not your target was Town, and can then choose whether to marry him.

Hexmage

(active, night): You are a master of the dark arts and have learned a wide variety of curses you can lay on others for a variety of different effects. As such, at night, you may use any of the following powers in addition to your nightkill. You may use only one of them per night, and may not choose the same power two consecutive nights (you don't want to get bored, mixing things up is more fun).
Target takes one less vote to lynch tomorrow (can't use this if 6 or fewer players are living)
Target can't be protected tonight (may not also kill said player)
Target becomes an Ascetic tonight and tomorrow, so non-killing abilities targetting them will fail (yes, this prevents proposals)
Target cannot make proposals tomorrow
You become a Ninja tonight
Voyeur
Silence target for first 24 hours of real-time tomorrow
Target can't vote tomorrow (can't be used later than N4)
Roleblock (you may only choose this power once)

If you don't know what any of those abilities does feel free to ask.

Serial Killer

(active, night): Apparently Robin, with whom you are infatuated, is “straight”. Well, if you can't have her, then no one can! You never cared much about these Ylisseans and their “morals” anyways. Each night you may kill another player. You do not have a particular kill method (they will simply turn up as “killed”). If you die and Noire shares your alignment, she will inherit this ability.

You win when your faction (whether Noire is in it or not) comprises half the game (you explicitly know that you win all ties so long as you are alive).

You may confirm via PM now or via thread once I unlock it.

i wonder how likely it is ceph included a SK with unique modifiers here!?

[zMuffinMan]

Jiffy, the lynch is either me or molla pick one.

or oversoul

[zMuffinMan]

ceph hasn't answered any questions i've asked about my role

i should ask some

[zMuffinMan]

did he

[zMuffinMan]

didnt he also state he knew stuff about shards

[zMuffinMan]

I don't actually have shards, but from what I know, and from my role PM, I can support that they are in the game.

oh right

totally interested in what this was about

also given he's kouga (?) if he doesn't have shard/s then that's somewhat interesting

[zMuffinMan]

ok titus

if flavour isnt relevant

then why, in your WALL OF WIN do you have neil and PA listed as town because "neighbourhood"?

[zMuffinMan]

Because it's pretty obvious that this game the hood mechanic would not be scum.

because...?

[zMuffinMan]

I don't even know where to begin with this

click your heels three times and say there's no place like home and you'll wake up

only to find it wasn't a dream

dun dun dunnnnnnnn

[zMuffinMan]

3 player hood, titus

3 player hood

[zMuffinMan]

the dead guy

[zMuffinMan]

i still want oversoul to claim

[zMuffinMan]

so youre clearing him because you dont think scum would distance from each other with

15

to lynch D1?

[zMuffinMan]

I have not seen a decent reason to scumread Oversoul.

well i mentioned a couple reasons when i asked him to claim (specifically that he said his PM mentions kikyo a lot, and kikyo was aronis's fake-claim, and also that things he's said about the setup - e.g. he said that scum likely consists of demons, undead and a human - doesn't match his supposed claim of race miller)

but really i just dont see his play as town, especially compared to others

[zMuffinMan]

ya one of those you scum fuck

stop ignoring the 50 pages that happened in the last 24 hours

[zMuffinMan]

vote: oversoul

whatever

oversoul is scum, just vig bop i guess

[zMuffinMan]

I get told that all the time

But only when I'm town

[zMuffinMan]

Still waiting on hearing what the "a lot" of mentions of Kikyo in your role pm was about

As well as why you speculated scum were undead/demons/human if you're a flavour miller

[zMuffinMan]

You *really* think that I would say my teammate's fakeclaim?

no

i doubt you even knew what aronis's fake-claim was, given discussing fake-claim flavour isn't exactly high priority for any scum team (virtually never happens ime)

i wanted to know what the context behind the kikyo mentions in your role PM are

I have already been abundantly clear about my opinions re: undead + demon given my stance on game design.

yeah but you're supposedly a flavour-miller

a
flavour
miller

if you investigate as undead, and you're a flavour miller, how does this not tell you what to expect about scum in this setup?

(also still doubt katsuki says "im negative utility" instead of just claiming flavour miller but that's not really something you can say anything about)

[zMuffinMan]

Btw oversoul

What is your full role name?

[zMuffinMan]

If I am a flavor miller so is Mhork apparently but you're giving him a pass for god knows what reason even though he LITERALLY CLAIMED scum.

well, there are several differences between what you've done this game and what mhork has done this game

katsuki claimed negative utility, you claimed a miller of sorts late into the game, and your first post in the game was that your role was lame (which makes not a lot of sense unless you call every vanilla role you roll lame, because nothing about the role you posted looks like anything other than a vanilla with flavour added)

on the other hand, mhork claimed a bo7 character (flavour wise), in a game where we know scum have fake claims (because it's both obvious and proven). now i suppose you could argue that if fake claims were randomised, he could be scum who has no choice but to claim a bo7 character because luck of the draw gave him the shittest fake-claim ever, and hey, that could be what happened here, but that's not what you're arguing at all. you've been calling him scum because he "claimed scum" which is duuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr levels of stupidity.

My role is Town Demon Undead Vanilla.
Both of my abilities are passives. The first one is that I am a demon. There is no flavor justification given for this.
The second is that I count for the undead. There is a flavor justification given for this and it is basically because I am always around the graveyard and dead shit.

I don't know why Katsuki made any comments he did but if I had to guess it would be due to being both a demon and undead, which has obvious connections to some sort of race cop type role. If Katsuki did know that Demon = town (which I still don't believe is a 100% certainty) a two different race cops could technically prove that I am what I say I am. So yes, I am not technically a miller but I am negative utility.

ok

then i'm pretty sure you're scum.

nothing in your role PM implies miller or "negative utility" and nothing in your role PM looks like it would prompt you to call it lame unless you just call any vanilla role lame. (i am guessing you weren't immediately aware upon replacing in that bo7 were all undead)

also your play in general just isn't coming across as town

i'm fine with lynching you today

[zMuffinMan]

I realise that but Katsuki claimed negative utility from very early in the game and I don't believe you saw two flips and surmised anything from that so I dunno why you're bringing it up

Also yes whoever is bo7 is undead but the don't necessarily all have undead fake claims because I seriously doubt anyone has the ability to check who is and isn't undead

[zMuffinMan]

Do you have flavour for being vanilla ?

[zMuffinMan]

maybe for roles

i doubt he does that for flavour

otherwise he's basically required to give a long list of characters that aren't in the game

(also i linked this earlier)

[zMuffinMan]

do you think we can reach 500 pages and just completely shatter the hopes and dreams of

anyone who wants to read this game

anyone else going for the longest game record?

[zMuffinMan]

how long til deadline? drag it out guys and spam up the page count ill continue being helpful as a cheerleader

[zMuffinMan]

i already did that

here

[zMuffinMan]

i'm not gullible enough to believe people listen to you

[zMuffinMan]

if you vig anyone other than oversoul then I give up

vote: bop

[zMuffinMan]

*shrug* i would have preferred an oversoul lynch but you guys made it bop vs bbmolla so whatevs

[zMuffinMan]

Zmuffin, I will hammer myself right now and give you my shard if you promise to abide by my conftowns for tomorrow.

i don't even remember your 'conftowns'

but i think oversoul was one of them

and i am hoping oversoul gets vig killed tonight

[zMuffinMan]

if shos shoots anyone other than oversoul, i'm gonna count that as a SK claim

also would really like it if (in the event of a bop town flip) prohawk targets oversoul and bb no actions

i just want to see what happens

[zMuffinMan]

waiting for flips, but i will probably be voting oversoul today

[zMuffinMan]

HEY GUYS BOP WAS TOWN IM SHOCKED

also thinking it's increasingly likely i could be wrong about mhork purely because shit like this looks incredibly dumb unless he thinks it was very likely the counter-wagon (bbMolla) was going to flip scum

[zMuffinMan]

reiterating: this flip mechanic is fucking shit, don't care if it has some sort of game-relevance

it feels like you're getting blueballed every fucking day and night phase

[zMuffinMan]

i just realised we still have 30-40 pages to go and we lynched off titus, and shos died

now how the fuck are we beating fea

[zMuffinMan]

if noddy is scum, then I feel a lot better that I was on the right track with my one-puppet-scum theory (even though im aware im not the first to bring it up)

still don't lynch before flips pls and thanks

[zMuffinMan]

who cares

noddy scum claimed

how the fuck people don't see that is beyond me

vote: noddy

[zMuffinMan]

Can you show me the post? I really want Y&B dead because I know they manipulated me.

the beetlejuice post

also noddy's reaction on the last page isn't anything like town noddy so there's that also

Muffin can readjust his PoV by his next post or eat rope purely on the basis ffery said your slot needed to die

also don't believe this is something town noddy writes

[zMuffinMan]

I keep forgetting Muffin was HighShroomish. That slot's death would be fine one of these days.

he was obvtown though

only scum want obvtown to die

[zMuffinMan]

i can also lynch oversoul though since that still needs to happen

[zMuffinMan]

yes

[zMuffinMan]

i may or may not have mentioned this already, but i read the first 10 or so posts by highshroomish when i said i'd replace in and i was like 99.9% sure it was a town slot before even receiving my PM. literally don't know how anyone had him as scum after his demon=miller stuff

i'm guessing whatever he did that made people not like him happened some time later on and i don't particularly want to read to find out what it was so i'm just going to assume it was shit and baseless

[zMuffinMan]

that is actually the very definition of a stretch

[zMuffinMan]

there are differences between forced and genuine "town tells"

this one was obviously genuine. that is what i thought before replacing in, you can either take that as is, or assume i am just awful and don't know how to tell the difference between town and scum intent

i don't really care, but it

is

stretching to assume he came up with a plan to fake that (i mean, that would require highshroomish, who isn't the brightest bulb, to have come up with that on his own, or the scum team to have... chosen not to do it at an earlier point?)

[zMuffinMan]

i don't really think dan is scum but i forget why

i think it had something to do with him thinking someone was a lie detector

[zMuffinMan]

pretty sure i asked bop at some point for any and all information re: shards in their role pm and they didn't mention they were told that

so either cephrir is really inconsistent with how he writes role pms or bop left that out or you know that because you were told something town players don't

actually

know

[zMuffinMan]

Sure

let's pretend that's the case

and my townflip then proves me to be telling the truth

so dull

[zMuffinMan]

noddy will you bus oversoul

[zMuffinMan]

it's actually possible they were since bop never actually explicitly mentioned they were told but seemed to know it was the case

i'm not sure if that was an assumption they were making or whether they just neglected to mention that when i asked them for information on it

[zMuffinMan]

whatevs, i don't really care which of noddy and oversoul gets lynched

Vote: Oversoul

[zMuffinMan]

No one said for sure they knew differently

i doubt most people even read your posts

i think most people in this game have skipped most of the posts

it's an incredibly lazy game

[zMuffinMan]

he could just be poison-proof scum, though again i forget why but i think i had some reason to believe he wasn't likely bo7

[zMuffinMan]

nah it's nothing to do with the voting patterns i think, there was some stuff that someone quoted at some point that made me think unlikely bo7. i might do some light re-reading and try to remember what it was

[zMuffinMan]

i think i've shed a single tear every time i've read a ynb post today

it's making me think i should have listened to titus, and when i think of titus and being right, i start feeling a bit queasy

[zMuffinMan]

like it's legit making my stomach turn, and i dunno if it's because of something i ate earlier or because the thought of titus being right about something is repulsing me

could just be what i ate earlier

[zMuffinMan]

i think he voted more than one of his scum buddies, it probably wasn't all of them, though

(also he wasn't there when the first kill happened, was he?)

[zMuffinMan]

maybe. seems kind of dumb, though, since nobody goes, "omg one of rhaego's votes was town, they must all be town!"

or maybe they do

i dunno

[zMuffinMan]

i mean, i sincerely doubt that even played a small factor in why iecey pidgeon thing was killed

[zMuffinMan]

o

right

that reminds me

we should probably *actually* mass claim at some point in the near future

like today

or tomorrow

because my theory about the scum team is that they're all limited utility powers (spread so that any one of them can die and it won't greatly affect their overall chances of winning)

also

i was thinking about it and mhork's role is something i could imagine scum having as a limited investigative ability

so there's that

[zMuffinMan]

i talked about why squirrel girl's double voting powers didn't make sense as one of the scum abilities given the fact it's very likely a distribution of limited powers (at least for the bo7)

but

meh

guess shos didn't give a shit about logic

[zMuffinMan]

Spoiler:

i would rather you not shoot squirrel girl

also i don't think scum have a double-voter in this setup

because i'm making inferences about what scum is likely to have based on other scum power and i think it's a bunch of somewhat individually-weak powers because the setup is likely 21:6:1 and ceph didn't want to put too much power into any one role on the scum side (well, maybe there's 1 scum role that's somewhat powerful in comparison to the others, but i doubt it's a double voter)

also just from what i've read of squirrle girl, i don't think she's scum

i don't think mhork is scum, tbh, but prob not a good idea to have anywhere near a potential lylo situation

[zMuffinMan]

it's amazing for scum

dunno what you're on about

it means lylo a day earlier assuming it becomes single faction

that's why scum double voters are rare and some people treat double voters like they're ICs (at least in smaller games)

[zMuffinMan]

Guys, the Oversoul lynch is way too easy

it's taken two day phases

[zMuffinMan]

who exactly do you think was the scum pushing bop then?

[zMuffinMan]

Hm. Actually now that I think of it. That was highly scum motivated. Lynch Kagami tomorrow. Switch her and Notsci.

this is my favourite thing that oversoul said, after hammering titus without a word

[zMuffinMan]

also once again, waiting 24 hours for this super awesome and fun flip mechanic

bbl

[zMuffinMan]

prohawk not claiming his targets is sensible

he could still be SK, but not because he's not claiming

[zMuffinMan]

you thought it was a fart but turns out it was't and you accidentally got a shard

[zMuffinMan]

what a dumb way to gambit

coulda just asked for a mass claim since we should be doing it about now anyway

[zMuffinMan]

yeah, nah

ad being a dumb fuck is understandable, but that mhork flip makes me incredibly obviously town to anyone paying attention

[zMuffinMan]

Also mass claim today

Full roles, all actions

[zMuffinMan]

yeah, nah

ad being a dumb fuck is understandable, but that mhork flip makes me incredibly obviously town to anyone paying attention

show, not tell.

if you can that is, because I see the exact opposite

yeah

your amazing case is that mhork said shroomish was town

go you!

[zMuffinMan]

considering I was part of FEA I feel no compunction to make this longer.

ditto

i suggested it as a joke

didn't think anyone would actually take it seriously

[zMuffinMan]

Mhork white-knighted more than just Titus.

AD's super duper case on me is that mhork called shroomish town

it's amusing

[zMuffinMan]

he probably is, which is unfortunate

[zMuffinMan]

was the result on goat? i thought the way he claimed his action last night was pretty fucking scummy tbh

[zMuffinMan]

o wait nm you probably didn't actually track anyone last night, that was most likely a gambit. but still, goat's reaction was kinda weird

specifically the bolded part

Hi!

Y&B is not the play. I investigated her last night, and was not blocked.

NS, I have a damned good idea how you got your shard. Didn't you say something about passively acquiring shards if more than one person was supposed to acquire one?

So...Egg...if I'm not mistaken...this would require an explanation from AD and Molla, correct?

but just overall don't really understand why a shard cop would target y&b and why goat was magically blocked by something until last night

[zMuffinMan]

dunno. i want a proper mass claim to sort through the actions. only one i don't care about claiming is prohawk, though tbh i don't think it really matters at this point if he does claim his targets

[zMuffinMan]

though in all honesty if he's town and used his ability after taking a shard from noddy then he's either scum of some sort or using his role really badly

[zMuffinMan]

if shos shoots anyone other than oversoul, i'm gonna count that as a SK claim

also would really like it if (in the event of a bop town flip) prohawk targets oversoul and bb no actions

i just want to see what happens

though in all honesty if he's town and used his ability after taking a shard from noddy then he's either scum of some sort or using his role really badly

O rly?

I meant in general if you've continued using it to try to steal shards off people, there's no town motivation for that

The plan I proposed was one designed to test role claims

[zMuffinMan]

did oversoul claim to have lost the shard

[zMuffinMan]

and concise

[zMuffinMan]

he's non-existent and potentially scum

i don't remember why i thought he wasn't

[zMuffinMan]

I'm not scum, bbMolla

[zMuffinMan]

@cephrir

i know there's no explicit rule against this shit, but can you force replace ynb if this continues

I really could not give less of a shit about reading this game

[zMuffinMan]

fuck off, cunt

[zMuffinMan]

All in all, this feels like the SK is interacting with you, in which case, either you are the SK with revival powers or the SK is forced to revive you if you die. Also that 24-hour bullshit I'm sure is tied in to this, I just don't know how.

i somewhat agree with this, actually

i think the 24-hour thing is most likely there for either for mist (because it's an automatic mechanic) or because scum (either SK or scum team) have a mechanic in place that allows them to revive someone / govern someone if they so choose (and this is probably 1-shot).

in any case, it's pretty much guaranteed to be a scum mechanic whatever it was

[zMuffinMan]

also i don't believe scum, unless it's SK, have a full roleblocker (and even then i doubt the SK has full roleblocking abilities)

i think goat's claim to have been roleblocked repeatedly until last night is probably bullshit, and i think the only reason he claimed a successful action last night is because it was possible he was tracked

he's non-existent and potentially scum

i don't remember why i thought he wasn't

Hi!

Yes to the first part. No to the second. I've lost track of this game a bit. Sorry about that.

Explain the "potentially scum" part please.

8780 wasn't even in reference to you, it was in reference to beastcharizard

though i guess it also applies to you, anyway

[zMuffinMan]

coz im town, duh

for reals this time

for reals, bbMolla

[zMuffinMan]

i swear it in the name of mollie

fo' reals

[zMuffinMan]

what night did goat investigate noddy?

[zMuffinMan]

i think scum is some combination of {beast, goat, noddy, kagami}

maybe

though tbh i dont think kagami is all that scummy, just the revival mechanic is super obviously a scum mechanic and there are only a couple scenarios in which i can imagine scum of any sort unnecessarily reviving kagami (basically it would have to have been compulsive)

[zMuffinMan]

Imply that I'm not doing anything, yet don't bother to do an easy ISO

how is this even related?

[zMuffinMan]

so here's something i just remembered

shos said he hadn't been targeted on any night

there was one night where both bb and goat both claimed to have targeted shos and got no result

now we can assume that if a theoretical scum alien-variant JK exists, shos would have at least seen them targeting him but he didn't, so what was going on with the "roleblocks" in this game?

bb clarified that he was actually roleblocked and it wasn't just a lack of result iirc, and goat getting no result as opposed to a negative result (like he claims to have gotten on mist N1) means he had to have been blocked in some way

[zMuffinMan]

What are you trying to say?

just recapping all of the claimed roleblocks

you claim you were roleblocked N1
no one claimed roleblocked N2?
goat and bb both claimed roleblocked N3, both targeting shos, shos claims no one targeted him any of the first 3 nights
goat claimed roleblocked N4
egg and goat claimed roleblocked N5

this is all the known roleblocked claims as far as i can tell

i sincerely doubt scum have two roleblocking abilities (even if we suppose one is coming from the SK and one is coming from group scum) - i sincerely doubt group-scum have a full roleblocker, as well (my theory about the scum team coming in to play with this one, scum is most likely full of limited-shot or limited-in-some-way abilities with probably no goons, so while i believe it's possible scum have the ability to roleblock, i sincerely doubt they can do it every single night)

i think at least one of the "roleblocked" claims is false

[zMuffinMan]

oh and i suppose no one claimed roleblocked last night but then the only one who claimed to have used an ability theyd know was roleblocked last night is goat so i dont know if that means anything

[zMuffinMan]

did the shots getting used up thing ever get clarified? iirc egg was claiming you were lying about that at some point

also egg should actually just full claim his role instead of being all tricksy, because i was under the assumption he was an odd-night tracker but i just realised he claimed to have a certain number of shots

also kagami should really full claim as well

[zMuffinMan]

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[zMuffinMan]

Yes, it did get clarified.

where / when because iirc it happened at the end of the day yesterday and i dont remember seeing it get clarified

[zMuffinMan]

those posts by egg are before 8521

[zMuffinMan]

That means her reads still aren't the be-all and sheep-all

anyone who sheeps titus ever is doing it wrong ime

she maybe gets one scum read correct a game ime

[zMuffinMan]

Feel free to shoot holes.

noddy could very well be scum (probably is) but what is your theory for why your action was somehow prevented (if you don't want to call it blocked) 3 nights in a row and magically went through last night?

[zMuffinMan]

im pretty sure egg took that back and said he didn't action last night

[zMuffinMan]

wait nm he claimed blocked

i just thought he was bullshitting because of my theory about him being odd-night

[zMuffinMan]

amished doesn't work if you read your predecessor's iso before replacing in but that's also not what amished actually is

[zMuffinMan]

just lynch me. could not give less of a fuck about this game

[zMuffinMan]

something about stuff and magic and i don't really give a shit. mafia isn't about logic, anyway

[zMuffinMan]

me2

[zMuffinMan]

i actually dont think beast is all that likely scum

i think either goat or noddy is a better shot at hitting scum

stop asking me why im not voting, it's not like it makes a difference unless there's actual support for a wagon not me or beast so it doesn't matter

also kagami is probably SK but whatever