X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (Game Over)

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm town. I have read absolutely zero of this game. Let me try to post a Lil but I'll have to wait until off work.

130 pages guys? Come on.

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Vote Count 1.10

Titus (8) - Venmar, Nero Cain, ika, Speaker for the Dead, Ultimate Life Form, SnowStorm, Macaronis and Cheese, My Milked Eek
Feu et Vol (2) - Titus, Sharpest-knife-on-tree
RubikAshtray (1) - Clusk92
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (1) - Cloud Nine


Not Voting (8) - RubikAshtray, PeregrineV, Brian Skies, Feu et Vol, Toogeloo, borkjerfkin, Majiffy, Rogue

borkjerfkin, My Milked Eek, RubikAshtray, Cloud Nine, Titus, Majiffy, Ultimate Life Form, Nero Cain, Speaker for the Dead, Toogeloo, SnowStorm, Feu et Vol, Macaronis and Cheese, and Clusk92 have received votes today.

The deadline for Day 1 is Tuesday, July 29th, at 6:00 PM EST. With 20 people alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Deadline in (expired on 2014-07-29 20:00:00).

Well then.

[AngryPidgeon]

I mean 24 hours left and only one wagon. Should I just vote titus?

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Claim: There is a negative utility aspect to my role.

Carry on.

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Titus, who is scum?

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AP, are you beloved princess? I ask because that claim is already out.

No. I don't need to claim anything more right now, but I'm not a BP.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also desperado forgot to add me to the neighborhood PT. I sent him a PM telling him I needed PT access and he said "Its in your PM". hurrrr. Hopefully he gets my follow up soon.

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@AP-the link is next to affiliation

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Would someone be so kind as to summarize Neighborhood distis and claims for me?

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mastin tell me who I should cop tonight.

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I kind of don't like that Snowstorm waited 115 pages to claim his BP role, but ehhh.

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Rogue, can you explain why you are Master Mold? I dont recall that character.

[AngryPidgeon]

Titus is town. Mollie probably is too although Im not going to just accept her reads.

We're lynching titus anyways though so w/e its cool, I like bussing townies.

I don't particularly see why SS should be vigged immediately.

[AngryPidgeon]

you look disinterested ap

[AngryPidgeon]

unless some people have balls we are past the dl

Ring a ding ding.

VOTE: titus, this is a misvote but Mollie is right.

Mollie who is your top scumread?

[AngryPidgeon]

are the reasons for Bork being town good ones or are they like the ones in Tales of You?

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AP who is your top townread and why isn't it me

Titus. holy shit though you all suck at scumhunting good job on this mislynch.

[AngryPidgeon]

If anyone hammers but Jiffy they are scum, if jiffy does not hammer titus then he is scum

Why?

[AngryPidgeon]

Also it sucks that we can't talk in a QT for this game

<3
Ok, well I guess Bork can be town.

[AngryPidgeon]

All these posts suck, I want better ones.

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We should just all shut up, let Titus get any last minute posts out and then let jiffy hammer

This, dear god this. Im going to just lurk in the PT while you chatbots flood the thread.

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Do we really need to wait for Majiffy to hammer? I don't really care about getting that governor shot. And I don't really believe Titus is going to flip scum, so can we end this already?

First, he is saying he doesn't care about town objectives and knows I am town...despite allegedly scumreading me...

HELLO! EARTH TO TOWN!

This doesn't sound like a cut and dry case like you are making it out to be.

I sort of think SS is town for the BP claim. I don't think he is the kind of player to fake it. Anyhow, why is this game Day still going? Im going back to lurking in the PT.

[AngryPidgeon]

There are 5 hours to deadline.

HELLO! EARTH TO TOWN!

If we no lynch I will start actually blacklisting you idiots.

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Oh before I forget... SKOT is town. I stood up to that mislynch (suggested by two hoods in pregame...no such thing as coincidence).

Gosh, a popular PL is getting suggested by multiple people.

Clearly must be scum motivated.

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I'd like the following people to give me 1) their rundown of major events of the day so far and 2) current, complete reads lists with a little explanation of their top 2 scum and top 2 town reads:

I'm going to give this a hard pass. Mostly because I don't want people knowing my reads right now for (probably scum motivated) reasons.

All I know is that there are mini quests that unlock powers for each neighborhood (read p1-5 for the details) and Snowstorm is a claimed Beloved Princess and Titus is a Vazilla Town. We are mislynching Titus today, with haste and purpose!

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AP dont be a weeny! If you are town you wil likely die soon so just fuckin tell me shit. Hiding reads is scummy as fuck. Dont do that. Tell me things. I want/need to lean on you a bit. Dont make me question that decision.

I literally replaced in to this game < 24 hours ago. I've been declaring intent to lurk it out in the PT. I only just read anything that wasn't the last couple pages.

Your PT will be open over night. Titus is getting lynched Today. The length of this game is anti-town.

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Cause fuck armchair meta.

I've been actually reading today in a lurky fashion, but I wanted to </lurk> for a second to say. MARRY ME.

ok, back to lurking </lurk>

P.S. lynch Titus TIA, fuck objectives get money.

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[quote="In post 3612, AngryPidgeon"][/quote]
Oops, screwed up my lurk tags.

<lurk>

There we go. Gosh there are a lot of posts. I'll post later.

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Ika stop arguing and post in the PT.

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Marquizard is town. Bad news Titus, your reads are clouded by omgus. No fear though, AP us here.

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Please hammer titus and catch up in the pt before I have a fucking stroke.

It doesn't matter who does it cause she's town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Just put then in your pt.

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oh yeah. fine whatever. you're still scum.

Awesome your reads are in the thread. Mislynch titus now please

[AngryPidgeon]

Dear morons,

If Titus were scum she would have hammered herself at this point to prevent the side-objective from being achieved. Now everybody stop being retarded and move this forward with a Titus hammer.

<3,

AP

[AngryPidgeon]

also it looks like you are in the know but not trying to which makes me think she is scum

Huh?

Also, yes lets lynch Titus. Shes being anti-town (no offense Titus, but damn).

[AngryPidgeon]

If I were scum with Titus I'd be screaming at her to self hammer until she did it.

So I'm not.

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I don't know and I don't care. This game isn't going anywhere until we lynch Titus so somebody please vote her or so help me god I will start dishing out verbal wrist-slaps.

So you think shes scum, EtL? Fascinating. Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE end this?

We need to stop getting caught up in shitty mechanics debates. We need to stop circlejerking. We need to prevent game days from being 150 pages.

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Because if Majiffy hammers and she is scum then his group gets 2/3 points towards unlocking their special power. She is town though, so its irrelevant. Your Neighborhood probably has 1 scum in it.

I'm doing my best to circumvent more bullshit from clogging the thread and to get people to stop being anti-town. I could read more but I intend to do that over night and I already have some reads to start with. Thanks for the tip though!

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Feu is town too, but its all good. Hammer this and lets get this town loss off to a good start.

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Yes now please hammer titus. ITs the only way we are ending Today. In a Titus mislynch.

[AngryPidgeon]

Well huh. Nero claimed Commuter in our PT fwiw, so whatever team killed him may not be in our PT.

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Nero was all lubed up for an ULF lynch. If anybody thinks that means anything.

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i wanted to lynch majiffy or ulf today anyway

I was suspicious of Majiffy (proof in PT!!). ULF I'm a little more MEH about, but thqh I kind of feel like pruning my neighborhood of scum.

This being prob multiball makes me extremely apathetic about life though.

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Oh that last comment was because.

I want to prune my neighborhood of scum. I originally thought Nero/AP/Ika town so lynching ULF/SKOT is A+, but with Nero dead and multiball making me less gung-ho about ika town (as well as others), Im a bit more meh about it.

I would still probably be in to lynch in my neighborhood today though. Majiffy was my other good pick for scum to go for today. Uhhhh. Need to rethink some previous townreads now that multiball is (confirmed?).

Huh, might actually talk myself into a Vol vote. The calling titus SK bizzyness looks like a fake predict maybe. Still think speaker is town I think.

Borkie is probably fooling everyone, but eh.

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Can we lynch SKOT?

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I think my PT should prob be on the lynch list today.

[AngryPidgeon]

join a game, AP

what prize do i get?

My beautiful smoking presence in this game.

And the wonderful town leadership I exude radiantly as I strut about on my horse of pure white and a saddle of crimson.

P.S.: The voices in your head telling you to lynch skot? Do it!

Wait those voices are probably just me.

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VOTE: perv

Interesting vote. PV is pretty null for me. Is Rubik's in his neighborhood? I think I would lynch Rubik's before PV atm if we are going for potential lurkscum over there.

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how can you possibly think perv is null?

-Shrug-, because he hasn't posted anything meaningful all game?

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VOTE: Ultimate Life Form

To arms, Nero

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and that makes you...not try to engage him? at all?

Ok? I didn't say we shouldn't engage PV. I said I think Rubiks lynch is a little more likely to hit scum. Are we voting on someone to predict or no? PV can still be pressured regardless.

Anyone voting our group is a very viable lynch candidate.

Ok, I'll humor these shitposts: why?

i just wanna lynch metalmastin tbh

So brave. FWIW I liked your enormous wall in which you called Majiffy/ULF a team.

tbh i wanna nom ULF and kill it with fire

from your hood, i would basically be PLing one of rubik/PV

I support this product.

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AP hasn't really done anything town and just did something pretty anti-town, etc.

Errr, what did I do thats anti-town? Anti-town meaning not 'scummy' but anti-town? Cause I'd really like to know.

We have AP at L-1 in the hood right now.

pls don't let us down.

...

Powerlynching AP is a must.

I'd really love to hear more. There is a 0% chance I get lynched today.

AP has coincidentally (?) done the same thing.

Excuse me?

Excuse me?

Excuse me?

Stop being misinformed about the gamestate, thanks.

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VOTE: AP

No I didin't. Is everyone in this game a moron?

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ETL meta reads him as scum.

Wow lets all bow down to EtL and take zero responsibility for this AP QL. AP is scum cause he voted for ULF (even thought NS was actually the one who voted for that neighborhood first) and EtL meta that she probably won't even divulge because "LOL THEN AP WOULD STOP DOING THAT AS SCUM".

Take some responsibility. How about an iota of logic from you that suggests youshould be scumreading me.

Oh also Im scum because my predecessor made a total of 2 posts before siteflaking. Thats a very compelling case there Bork.

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that was mollie. she wanted to let you know youre not alone. i don't speak mollie very well but i am guessing that means she thinks you're town now

Im legitimately chuckling right now <3.

Also Bork asked me to actually give a reason for him being scum and I don't wanna . See the thing about that is that Bork is a popular townread that I am skeptical of. There is virtually no utility in making cases on him today (or ever probably) because no one is going to lynch him. Suffice to say I do think hes scummy and I'll talk about it if people really want me to.

edit: I have perv as "who the fuck knows, maybe town if I really really have to guess?" and ULF as "ya ok lets lynch it"

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I'm town, but only on the condition that I get to help pick Mollie's sig.

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Also god damn it. For ONCE can it not be a goddamn multiball game. Just ONE FUCKING TIME.

FUCK

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Oh really? Well I claimed miller in the neighborhood N1 so Imma go right ahead and cc you for an easy scum lynch now.

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Also all gladiators are scum you know!

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K lol Im a compulsive odd-night vigilante.

I shot Macaronis last night.

Good job morons.

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Also you havent even bothered to try to read me or interact at all??? And you werent paranoid about mollie AT ALL AT ALL AT ALL in all your interactions with her? You didnt even try.

Lol, such arrogance. I don't care to reachout to you. And I decided mollie was my best townread over night when I read all 150 pages, so yes. Im giving them a pass.

All thw reasons AP is a fucking liar and obvscum here and clearly not a vig. No scumhunting. No actual discussing.

Such read, so good. Ive been in this game for < 24 hours on D1 and there was no changing the course of the day. I read literally all 150 pages over night and posted some thoughts in the PT. I've interacted with people in the very few hours this has been open tonight. I am a compulsive odd night vig and I will be FUCKED before I get lynched as a VIGILANTE. When I claimed "neg utility" that was the compulsive part of it.

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why

Because I thought they were scum, genius.

The fuck do you expect.

Why do you think I didnt want to share read yesterday? Because I didnt want my role to be obvious. Jesus christ.

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what am your character

Colossus.

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Go aay and bring mollie back. She knows AP. She knows this is classic scum AP. He is probly freakin the fuck out in scumqt.

Save ass. Fake claim. Troll. Disappear.

FUCKING. TYPICAL. SCUM AP.

DISAPPEAR. YOU DO REALIZE I HAVE A LIFE AND A SLEEP SCHEDULE?

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X-Ternals
7.

My Milked Eek

9.

Feu et Vol (beastcharizard + Marquis)

10. borkjerfkin
18. BS / EtL

Outcasts
4.

Cloud Nine (Natirasha + Salamence20)

6.

Rogue (Malakittens + notscience)

11.

Toogeloo

14. RubikAshtray
17. PeregrineV

Generation Next
2.

BigBird

8. Ultimate Life Form (Metal Sonic + Mastin2)
13. Sharpest-knife-on-tree
16.

Nero Cain

20.

ika

X-Men
1.

Speaker for the Dead (pirate mollie + zMuffinMan)

3. Macaronis and Cheese (Prof Fridays + Aronis)
5. Majiffy
12.

SnowStorm

15.

Venmar

Green being town and blue being meh-town.

P-edit: Ok then. You seem to be suffering from Mollie in Graveyard shift complex and I don't care. If I want you, I'll come find you. Otherwise, I will interact with people I find interesting IN THIS GAME. Its a game.

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did you talk about the read on mac&cheese in the neighbourhood? or not at all?

Above post was in response to this.

I called MAjiffy and SKOT scummy I think.

I was very explicitly trying to distance from my vig shots because I didn't want it to be obvious I was a vig. I am certain there is scum in my neighborhood, so . Also I assumed it was single faction all night.

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i don't see anything in his ISO that actually cotnradicts that claim or his claimed action

Gosh I wonder why AP was so excited to get to night phase on D1!!!

DONT THINK TOO HARD ABOUT IT

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They are ALL AND EACH OF THEM ap scumtells.

This is why I dont want to talk to you.

Good job. You misread me on meta. Enjoy losing.

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-> still lol-ing at vig being negative utility

I said there was an ASPECT that was negativue utility. I very SPECIFICALLY used the word ASPECT.

I did not say MY ROLE IS NEGATIVE UTILITY.

I said there is a negative utility ASPECT.

I.E. : The COMPULSIVE part.

I HAVE TO SHOOT. EVERY ODD NIGHT.

I dont see how COMPULSIVE is even remotely arguably not neg-utility.

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Reads != scumhunting. You've been on the site longer than me haven't you? Why am I the one needing to explain this to you? I know AP scumhunting. He did none of it since he's been here.

Congratulations, I replaced into a 150 page game with < 24 hours to DL and one wagon. I read the entire clusterfuck overnight. I've had virtually no opportunities to actually interact with people yet because of that and today opened with someone tracking me to Mac and everyone claiming that like fucking dumbs. So you tell me if its alignment indicative or not!

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yeah . it's a game. where you basically told me i am not worth figuring out. despite that we play lots of games together, hydra, and i have posted enough that you COULD but you don’t care to.

This isn't how I play. I don't make plans to read people. I don't prioritize reads (usually). I wait and see what catches my eye and I talk about those things and go from there. There is no "OMG Mollie is in this game, I better make sorting them a priority". That shit is for people like NS. Stop painting me scummy for the way I play.

P-edit: No, you are taking a GAME way too personally. Realize that I like playing the game in my own way and that I don't feel a compulsive need to buddy buddy with people I know.

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my exp[erience against you in past games is that you either attack me or waffle.

you never just ignore me.

here you ignore me. so i wondered why

and in that wondering you attack my personality by calling me ARROGANT instead of explaining

HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN IN THIS GAME.

HOW LONG ETL.

USE SOME GODDAMN COMMON SENSE.

ALL I DID ON D1 WAS ASK THAT WE END THE DAY.

YOU CALLED ME SCUM. IM NOT TRIPPING OVER MYSELF TO READ YOU BECAUSE I DONT FEEL STONGLY ABOUT YOUR POSTS YET.

STOP TAKING IT PERSONALLY AND DECIDING I MUST BE SCUM FOR IT.

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no one said anything about buddy buddy but if you know someone your ability to read them is higher than your ability to read others, generally

i dont see how that is "shit for ns" since it is the way I PLAY and you know that.

Ok?

That isn't me. I think I have said before that I prefer reading people that I DON'T know because Im unbiased about them. I don't do meta reads, not usually and not well. Im at my BEST when I read the thread calmly and let my gut direct me where to go. And I point out where it is going as I read along. That is it.

I don't generally intentionally do otherwise unless mastin is in the game or Im scum.

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I have never ever been closer to copy pasting my role PM in a thread.

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hey ap you are saying that you read all 150 pages yeah? lets go over some of the content since you know, you are a vig and obvsly you don't know what you are doing cos you shot mac&cheese and let that majiffy thing live after supposedly reading the entire game and us being your strongest townread

Ask away

@EtL: Mastin has made zero posts (excluding "Im still VLA" posts). I DID reach out to mastin this game.

--

@Muffin: Can we actually win the game? I know its easy to want to troll, Im there right now. This game is such a shitshow, can we not have a game like that for once. : |

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Who in your neigh orhood is scum ap

You are an AP expert, you tell me. Hint: I'm probably voting them.
Double hint: I mentioned reads on everyone in my neighborhood just Today!

Glad to know you are reading my posts.

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I thought Ika was town. I had doubts on that when I realized prob multifaction. I then got a townread back again after his QT posts today.

I thought Nero was town (irrelevant now).

I think ULF and SKOT are good picks for scum. I even OPENED THI GAME DAY by suggesting we lynch in my neighborhood. My mind is pretty blown, EtL. Given that you seem to think im a PoI in this game, you arent really superficially grasping my mindframe.

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I think your reaction is town. But i dont know then who is scum in your hood.

Probably not Ika. That leaves SKOT and Sonic, woooo.

I'm fine with either TBH.

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LOL "I don't understand so you must be stupid". Fuckin rich. Clusk's entry posts were awkward and showed pretty clearly that he was trying to hide something.

A...naked vote in RVS and a "oh my there are so many posts?" You have GOT to be kidding me.

AP and I were posting at the same time and yet the only thing he had for me was "VOTE TITUS NAO BETCH". No "Are you scum ETL? Why aren't you voting Titus?" No real interaction whatsoever. If he was town, then he would be thinking about me trying to manipulate him and looking out for it. At the very least he would actually TALK TO ME. He didn't. He was trying to avoid interacting with me and it was obvious to me that this is what he was doing. Why?

This is all just nonsense; I dont even know what to say tbh. I wanted to end the day because I had no time to read before DL and because I had a vig shot to use and because I thought Titus was town but needed to be lynched anyways. You really need to consider the timeframe of this all and also remember how I get around DEADLINES in every game ever.

TownAP would be suspicious of mollie right away, and it's not like your ISO is a shining example of obvtown.

Actually it is. Multifaction makes me less sure of it, like always, but I still love their posts.

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Just explain mac cheese shot

It was a gut/emotional read that was wrong.

I disliked their calling Venmar town for the neighborhood slip. I thought they were trying to piggyback off the towncred he may get for that and it felt like a WK to a degree. When pressed on it (someone called them scum with Venmar potentially), they are like "lol we think Venny is town so its ok" which felt to me like cum who knew Venny was town. Nothing they posted really felt town to me. I thought they were unlikely to get lynched over other people so I prioritized shooting the partially for that reason.

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VOTE: Ultimate Life Form

To arms, Nero

I feel like this vote and the reason behind it is uncharacteristic of you AP.

Im not sheeping Nero blindly, I think ULF is scummy.

Nero specifically did ask me to wagon ULF with him last night though, so -shrug-.

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can every1 plz say who their neighbourhood predicted for the nk last night? like I am not just asking this to hear the sound of my own voice. like I have a legit reason.

I voted for Bork; Nero then sonic voted you (iirc). You were our prediction.

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You're not one to sheep though, you gave me the impression that you're voting ULF to avenge NC's reads or something.

I had kind of decided I was going to buddy Nero by posting "To arms, Nero!" and leading wagons on SKOT/ULF, but then he died and I couldn't really say it without adding sad faces.

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The only thing SKOT posted was a vote for SftD to be killed and that was all.

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So, what happened, AP claimed a role in the PT that contradicts his vig claim? Why did ULF come out as if he has night action proof on him? Someone that isn't as biased as ETL answer that, please.

I refused to claim anything in the PT.

Ika opened up the Day by voting for me in the PT and I asked him why. He told me to full claim and I immediately realized what probably happened and softly pleaded for him to back down. He then full claimed that I visited Mac and I immediately claimed Odd night compulsive vig. The end.

Also sonic then said its impossible for me to have shot Mac (with no reasons provided).

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Why haven't you claimed your character? (If you have I missed it, but I don't think you did.)

You missed it.

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ap why did you not vig the beloved princess? cos that would have made the most sense if you were trying to prioritize your nk in a protown way. your shot on mac&cheese still doesn't make sense if you read the game in its entirety and you were wanting to weed out people who were unlikely to get lynched.

Because I think Snowstorm is probably town.

Let me get back to you on how multifaction makes me feel about that.

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Ok, firstly, if Snow is scum then it is NOT with Majiffy.

I think he could be on the other team, but ehhhh. I'll reread that a little. His claim still just seems town to me. I assumed he was pretty obvtown given I was a vig and he was claiming a role that would commonly be seen with a vig.

I am half suspect ing that he actually IS a BP, just maybe not a town one now given multi faction.

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AP, what's the name of your ability?

Berserker

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Also @Muffin: Your posts about Rogue made me cry tears of joy, you have no idea how refreshing they were. I even posted about that in the PT!

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OH also I hated Mac and Cheesed case about how someone was copying Borks entry post for towncred. It just looked terrible and I thought they were distancing from Bork.

I should have shot Bork last night, fml.

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you are fucking terrible if you're town and you legit think I'm scum.

But hey you'd have gotten a lot of objectives filled!

P-edit: You have been protown. I'll admit that much. I explicitly did NOT vig you for that reason and because I knew I would get backlash if wrong. Also I agree that your play doesnt mirror Tales that much. Over there, you were more.... eh. Whats the word. Uh..... Vacant? I don't know, you were more along for the ride I guess and overly cautious. That might be the word I wanted.

Anyways, I am not advocating voting you today. Congrats on voting for obvi town vig though ^^. I'm still waiting to hear your case on me other than

1. I sabotaged an objective (no, that was NS, no comment on that from you?)
2. EtL says so. Huh well she isn't saying that anymore, also take some responsibility.
3. OMGUS.

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2) Who cares? What the hell is wrong with sheeping a read?

I don't see any particular reason for you to trust EtL and you are pushing all responsibility for lynching a confirmed town role onto her.
You have presented zero original reasons for thinking Im scummy other than a false one that you did not reevaluate after being called out.
You absolutely did just say Im bad (and implied prob scum) for scumreading you.

Go ahead and get your 'information', I'll wait for you to start backpedaling. Im not going anywhere.

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by claiming vig he's not exactly raising his chances of survival either, regardless of his alignment.

This.

If someone is wasting any sort of investigate on me at this point then I have no words. Im NK bait regardless of what you think my alignment is, so fuck off.

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Yeah but I'm a shit player so I have to keep voting him

We know.

also i'm only just now starting to realise how funny metal sonic's "if AP flip town, vig me" comment is

Can we just lynch MS today? Hes probably on MAjiffy's team, I thought Muffin's case for that was pretty good : (.

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I cannot be any more obvious town.

Everything I've done points to me being a Vigilante that got excited about drawing vig and wanted to shoot scum without making it obvious that he was the vig.

I dunno how anyone can see my AUTOCLAIM of a negative utility ASPECT and my AUTOCLAIM of COMPULSIVE VIG as anything other than obvtown.

[AngryPidgeon]

I'd like the following people to give me 1) their rundown of major events of the day so far and 2) current, complete reads lists with a little explanation of their top 2 scum and top 2 town reads:

I'm going to give this a hard pass.

Mostly because I don't want people knowing my reads right now for (probably scum motivated) reasons.

All I know is that there are mini quests that unlock powers for each neighborhood (read p1-5 for the details) and Snowstorm is a claimed Beloved Princess and Titus is a Vazilla Town. We are mislynching Titus today, with haste and purpose!

Also the bolded was a pseudo soft-claim.

[AngryPidgeon]

AP, from my POV, MS' reaction to ika's claim and everything that he said following - do you honestly see that kind of "OMG GOTCHA" attitude from scum? Because I don't.

I don't see why not. Especially since its multifaction so Sonic probably does actually think I'm on the other scumteam.

[AngryPidgeon]

AP are you willing to compromise on SKOT?

Sure. I don't have a townread on SKOT. Im guessing he isn't Majiffy-scum, but it being multiball makes me like him more for scum than I did before.

[AngryPidgeon]

I remember Rubik whining about feeling like an outsider in this game and that felt scummy to me.

I want to say I've seen scum do that before but I can't remember when exactly that was.

Still it was weird.

[AngryPidgeon]

Spoiler: Before being caught

i wanted to lynch majiffy or ulf today anyway

I was suspicious of Majiffy

(proof in PT!!). ULF I'm a little more MEH about, but thqh I kind of feel like pruning my neighborhood of scum.

This being prob multiball makes me extremely apathetic about life though.

Oh that last comment was because.

I want to prune my neighborhood of scum.

I originally thought Nero/AP/Ika town so lynching

ULF/SKOT is A+

, but with Nero dead and multiball making me less gung-ho about ika town (as well as others), Im a bit more meh about it.

I would still probably be in to lynch in my neighborhood today though. Majiffy was my other good pick for scum to go for today. Uhhhh. Need to rethink some previous townreads now that multiball is (confirmed?).

Huh, might actually talk myself into a Vol vote. The calling titus SK bizzyness looks like a fake predict maybe. Still think speaker is town I think.

Borkie is probably fooling everyone, but eh.

Generation Next - The neighborhood needing pruning
2. AngryPidgeon
8. Ultimate Life Form (Metal Sonic + Mastin2)* (still alive)
13. Sharpest-knife-on-tree* (still alive)
16. Nero Cain* (dead, but not killed by AP)
20. ika* (saw AP "visit" Dead Mac-n-Cheese)(still alive)

Spoiler: After being caught rationalization

K lol Im a compulsive odd-night vigilante.

I shot Macaronis last night.

Good job morons.

did you talk about the read on mac&cheese in the neighbourhood? or not at all?

Above post was in response to this.

I called MAjiffy and SKOT scummy I think.

I was very explicitly trying to distance from my vig shots because I didn't want it to be obvious I was a vig. I am certain there is scum in my neighborhood, so . Also I assumed it was single faction all night.

Just explain mac cheese shot

It was a gut/emotional read that was wrong.

Bunch of fake bullshit because he got caught

Vote: AngryPidgeon

If we do not lynch him today, I will troll and mock everyone for the rest of the day.

Yes. I was rather explicitly trying to NOT be an obvious vigilante.

I assumed there was scum in my neighborhood and I didn't want it to be obvious that *I* was the vigilante. I assumed at the time that it was single faction and that my kill would be even more traceable/obvious so I explicitly shot someone that I thought was scum and talked about other people in the PT because I wanted to distance from my role from the scums in there. But it looks like thats irrelevant now! GG.

[AngryPidgeon]

AP, why didn't you shoot ULF instead of Macaroni if you were gearing up to wagon him alongside Nero on Day 1?

Also because Mac and Cheese looked like someone I was never going to successfully wagon. ULF was lynchable. Majiffy was lynchable.

Mac and Cheese was viggable but not lynchable.

Sorry for not being a team player, I jizzed my pants when I saw I finally rolled Vig.

[AngryPidgeon]

UNVOTE: Ultimate Life Form
VOTE: Rubik Ashtray

[AngryPidgeon]

Also @Bork: since you are so interested in my read on you wrt meta. This would be more along the lines of GoW Bork than anything. And that was Multifaction so it fits!

[AngryPidgeon]

Like seriously you seem to have come into the game prepared to scumread me and I just don't even

Well I mean I read 150 pages overnight so I can understand why my reads seem 'sudden'.

Link: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=26483

I don't really do meta. I'm only bringing up GoW because you brought up Tales of You and said you were not acting like that here. I 100% agree with that assertion, so I wanted to bring up a game that where you were scum and DIDN'T give me the Tales vibes of being {intentionally lost, overly cautious, etc}.

[AngryPidgeon]

In Tales people called you loltown for flimsy reasons because you are charismatic. Someone said you were town for *good reasons*TM. My gut reaction was to not trust people to read you. Take that as a compliment to your scum game.

I thought you were focusing on objectives in lieu of scum hunting and you felt like you were trying hard to appear protown. Also I thought you were probably intentionally mispredicting multi faction when you fosd Marquis for speccing on it. That point is out now that it is confirmed. What do you think about them now though?

Also I don't know what you are waiting on but seems like you are confident in it and not what I may say so eh.

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[AngryPidgeon]

There is utterly no indication of more than one scumteam until now

Ok, for a fun activity then, how about you try telling me where 3 kills came from. Especially since you think I am scum and made one of them.

[AngryPidgeon]

No. You stated one thing to try to justify your vote today.

ika busted you.

You say something that contradicts what you said before you were caught.

What the hell.

Things that I said Today:
I thought Majiffy was scum.
I want to lynch in my neighborhood.

Things I did last night:
Shoot Mac and Cheese.

I'd love to hear how that is a contradiction.

[AngryPidgeon]

The only 'contradiction' is a distinct lack of me tlaking about Mac and Cheese. I didn't mention them Today because
1) What is the fucking point, they are dead.
2) I didn't want to tip off scum that I am a PR.

I didn't mention them last night (except excluding them from my townreads) because
1) What is the point, I was going to shoot them and become confirmable town.
2) I don't want to tip scum off that I am a PR.

Your case on me is A+ though, lets lynch a big just like Wicked mafia. BRO will be proud of me.

[AngryPidgeon]

Not Science lynched a town vig in that game too, no shock there.

[AngryPidgeon]

Well. You better get me lynched or NK me because Im shooting you on N3 if you are still around ^^.

[AngryPidgeon]

You scum, the other scumteam, and SK/vig/whoguivesashitrightnow.

those 3

And you are trying to accuse me of 'scumslipping' about multiball? That is some bullshit if I ever heard it seeing as how you can only explain 3 kills with 2 scumteams.

[AngryPidgeon]

uh.. what? Jiffy flipped blue, PV.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=31053

Grimleal named mafia (the only mafia in the game) flipped black.

Majiffy's faction had flavor associated with it as well.

Stop being dumb. Actually, never mind

VOTE: Peregrine

Down for this. He is the scum on my wagon.

[AngryPidgeon]

Spoiler: muffin

Seriously I give up. Town isn't going to win this game. I blame myself for missing scum last night I guess, if I hit Rubik scum maybe town wouldnt be tripping over itself or idk.

I just can't deal with this crap right now. Can you at least whisper sweet nothings in my ear about not science being derpy?

Plz?

Im sorry I was a scumfuck in Tales. Watching you go down was kinda sad and I just wanna troll, cause holy crap if I actually get lynched as a confirmed vig shot.

I mean the shitty cases on me and the people pushing my lynch should tip it off that its a bad one, but ehhh

I wish mastin would show up since I know at this point mastin cant scumread me EITHERwithout it being a scumclaim.

The line between shit play and scum play is nonexistent anymore. Like Im NK bait obviously but Im being wagoned because YOLO? If Im a vig, scum has to kill me. If Im scum, Im still a prime candidate for being shot by an actual vig or the other scum team.

Jesus. Why are people so dumb muffin idgi.

Also Ika tracks me to a kill, CLAIMS it, then asks me to claim. I claim odd vig and hes like "oh ok then cool". Why the fuck did he bother outting me if he was going to trust my vig claim. IDGI. Save me from the derp. I just wanna shoot scum one time. Just one time.

Or have a PR and live more than one day phase with it.

[AngryPidgeon]

3717- you were suspicious of Majiffy (after reading 150 pages), but decided not to shoot him.
3720- You say you want to "prune your neighborhood of scum". When given the chance , you did not, despite the "suspicion of Majiffy" "in your neighborhood" you want pruned.

3719- via pedit- ika busts you

Jesus christ, how is this hard to understand.

I ALSO wanted to murder Macaronis and Cheese in ADDITION to wanting Majiffy/SKOT/UFL. I decided to go with that one and pursue the other 2 during the Day.

There is no contradiction. The only 'contradiction' is me not mentioning Mac+Cheese ever which was pretty fucking intentional. I didnt shoot majiffy or my neighborhood because I figured that scum would realize I was a likely vig if people I talked about killing ended up dead. And yes Im sure there is scum in my neighborhood.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also in case I die, plz don't kill Snowstorm. That guy is town as fuck, wow.

Another crumb in my neighborhood that I was a vig last night.

[AngryPidgeon]

I didn't make too many callouts in the hood.

I only mentioned Snow because my death meant that he would have to be lynched. I was endorsing him for town which I hoped would have the gravity to encourage people to not fuck up by lynching him after the VIG got removed from the game.

I felt I needed to specifically comment on Snow because I was a vig. I guess it was not really a 'crumb'. Still I only posted that because I was a vig.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also it was my way of saying "Im not shooting Snow tonight, deal with it" for when claim time came and people inevitably bitched about me not vigging probtown Snow.

[AngryPidgeon]

@Marquis: Ya Im a little nervous there too. He demanded that I claim. I tried to soft to him to backdown. He claimed that I visited Mac. I full claimed. He backs down.

Its like...Im not sure what he expected. Granted, Im clearly a vig for how Ive handled this, but he just sort of backed down immediately.

I think hed be less likely to out me as scum though? Maybe. I mean he just put a target on his back regardless of anything.

[AngryPidgeon]

I will say that tunneling Venmar like Titus is is indicative of town from my experience (which isn't much, but hey), though, admittedly, I am loathe to say so. Also, I was completely unaware of the neighborhood; I just happened to stumble across it because I had accidentally clicked on "Private Topics," so I can confirm that Venmar's confusion/ignorance is legitimate. I guess I thought "The X-Men" link was to Wikipedia or some such thing. Personally, I think he's pretty much confobvtown at this point.

Buddying up to Venmar and this read looks an awful lot like WKing. For their 2nd post it was rather strong.

If Venmar turns out to be scum someone remind me 251 is a thing

Fair enough. I stand by it.

-Cheese

Looks overly confident. Read like the -knew- Venmar was town.

Idea: Whoever we lynch, two whole neighborhoods should vote them, so if they flip scum, two abilities.

~Macaronis

Decidedly focused on objectives which ok I guess a lot of people were but still I hate that.

He was apart of that whole RVS nonsense with Venmar. I suppose I wouldn't mind hearing more thoughts across the board about Clusk

They think Venmar is town, but Clusk is noteworthy for...doing the same thing "obvtown" did? Ya ok.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p6031847
The entire sequence of events in this case they make was just really reaching and felt like scum trying to look busy. Felt fake.

[AngryPidgeon]

tl;dr- You think Venmar is town, and that Mac-n-cheese was just picking on him with these 5 posts.

Yes I think Venny is town. I thought Mac was WKing him among other things.

[AngryPidgeon]

did you think he was town BECAUSE OF the perceived wk or something else

Partially, not entirely.

[AngryPidgeon]

And that was the absolute scummiest thing you found in the entire thread?

No I think Majiffy was the scummiest probably.

"Why didn't you vig majiffy then??"

-shrug-

I considered it. I really did.

I partially went with Mac because Nero and I had some overlap on that scumread and Nero was not interested in Jiffy.

[AngryPidgeon]

I can't wait to hear PV backpedal after my flip. Maybe I'll keep you around so you can do just that.

Also on a related note: VOTE: Rubik

I was going to say that everyone should predict me for the NK, but meh. Im ready to die tonight. Just let it happen. Im probably getting an RB or some nonsense parked on me anyhow if it isnt gone by N3.

[AngryPidgeon]

Explain how town thinks "Talk about my scummy neighborhood" but don't fix the problem.

IF I COULD VIG 6 PEOPLE IN ONE NIGHT.

I'd VIG MACARONIS AND CHEESE
AND YOU 5 TIMES.

[AngryPidgeon]

Interesting you mention that. Nero the town jailkeeper had suspicion of Mac-n-cheese. Who do you think he'd Jailkeep?

Not mac and cheese apparently!

IDK, maybe Sonic would be my best guess. Why is this relevant?

[AngryPidgeon]

Sure you're not Strongman Odd-night Compulsive Vig? It would lend more credence to your claim.

Yes....??

Nero had like 5 reads.

He had a hard-on for lynching MS. He probably jailed MS.

Wait wait wait, let me get this straight.

Are you arguing that I

didn't actually vig Aronis now

?

Or you are saying you think Im a strongman? I mean I guess you can argue that but Majiffy flipped Strongman so -shrug-. Thats still god awful though.

[AngryPidgeon]

NO YOU FULL CLAIM WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW THIS INSTANT.

[AngryPidgeon]

IM NOT GETTING LYNCHED. NOT AS A FUCKING VIGILANTE.

FUCK YOU.

IM NOT LETTING THAT HAPPEN.

I DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK WHAT THE SHIT IS GOING DOWN OVER THERE.

I AM TOO GOOD AT THIS GAME TO BE LYNCHED AS A CONFIRMED TOWN ROLE.

[AngryPidgeon]

FUCK THIS MECHANIC.

FUCK MULTI FACTION.

FUCK IDIOT TOWN PLAY.

[AngryPidgeon]

BORK FUCKING DIES AFTER I FLIP TOWN.

I SHOULD HAVE SHOT HIM LAST NIGHT.

HES SCUM FFS.

I DONT CARE WHAT THE FUCK HE SAYS.

HIS EMOTIONS ARE FAKE AND I CAN TELL.

I DONT NEED A GODDAMN CASE.

[AngryPidgeon]

Egg on my face moment of the game is getting me to doubt myself enough to have to post this.

THIS IS A MISPREDICTION.

THIS IS HIM SETTING UP TO GO 'OOPS' AND THEN BLAME SOME MYSTERIOUS RESULTS.

FUCK THIS.

BORK NEEDS TO DIE.

[AngryPidgeon]

COUNTERCLAIM ME. ANYONE COUNTERCLAIM MY ODD VIG CLAIM I DARE YOU.

DO IT. OH NO ONE WILL HUH.

THATS FUNNY.

[AngryPidgeon]

Sure you're not Strongman Odd-night Compulsive Vig? It would lend more credence to your claim.

Yes....??

Nero had like 5 reads.

He had a hard-on for lynching MS. He probably jailed MS.

Wait wait wait, let me get this straight.

Are you arguing that I

didn't actually vig Aronis now

?

Or you are saying you think Im a strongman? I mean I guess you can argue that but Majiffy flipped Strongman so -shrug-. Thats still god awful though.

So your not on Majiffy's team. Got it.

Non sequitur detected, error, error. Do not know how to respond.

[AngryPidgeon]

No AP.

I am in his neighborhood as well. He's not lying.

It makes me sad.

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED.

I DEMAND TO FUCKING KNOW WHY IM BEING CRAPLYNCHED AS A VIGILANTE.

JESUS THE SHAME.

THE FUCKING SHAME.

FUCK YOU.

[AngryPidgeon]

I HOPE MUFFIN CHANGES MOLLIES SIGNATURE TO "IM BORKS BITCH. I SUCK AT MAFIA, HES GONNA ENDGAME ME"

[AngryPidgeon]

I KNOW WHEN MY SHIP IS SUNK AS SCUM.

THIS ISNT THAT.

THIS IS ME BEING CONFIRMED TOWN.

AND MORONS LIKE NS AND PV DECIDING IM SCUM DESPITE

1) CRUMBS
2) INSTACLAIMS SANS COUNTERCLAIMS
3) ME BEING FUCKING TRANSPARENT
4) CONFIRMED 3 NIGHT KILLS SO MY ROLE IS CONFIRMED
5) ALL MY POSTS RE ANYTHING TO DO WITH A VIG IN THE HOOD ADDING UP

[AngryPidgeon]

Goddammit AP. stfu please. Bork is town, and if you flip town, I know exactly who the fuck is going down, so if you ARE, there WILL be scum blood to follow.

NO JUST LYNCH THEM TODAY AND CONFIRM ME.

I WANT TO KNOW.

ITS NOT LIKE THERE ISNT SCUM IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. DONT PLAY DUMB.

ALL THIS SNEAKING AROUND IS JUST WHAT KILLED TOWN IN TALES OF YOU.

I WANT TO KNOW WHICH OF YOU CLOWNS IS CLAIMING ONE ME.

[AngryPidgeon]

TODAY IS RETARDED.

BECAUSE MY MISLYNCH DOESNT EVEN GIVE ANY INFO.

WHATEVER.

I DONT CLAIM RANDOMLY AS SCUM.

I DONT SAY 'OH HEY GUYS THERE IS AN ANTITOWN ASPECT TO MY ROLE'

AND THEN COUGHT ONE UP LATER.

JESUS.

HOW FUCKING BAD ARE ALL OF YOU AT MAFIA.

YOU DONT LYNCH VIGILANTES WHEN THERE IS A CONFIRMED VIGILANTE.

IDIOTS.

[AngryPidgeon]

i am sad that this game makes no sense to me and i think AP is very likely to be town here but i cant do anything about it right now because we have a real chance to get our sensor which is potentially gamebreaking and that is more important.. than saving ap.

TROLLOLOLOL OBJECTIVES SO GOOD

FUCK SCUM LYNCHES GET OBJECTIVES

HAHAHAHUEUEHUEHEHE

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[AngryPidgeon]

i am sad that this game makes no sense to me and i think AP is very likely to be town here but i cant do anything about it right now because we have a real chance to get our sensor which is potentially gamebreaking and that is more important.. than saving ap.

TROLLOLOLOL OBJECTIVES SO GOOD

FUCK SCUM LYNCHES GET OBJECTIVES

HAHAHAHUEUEHUEHEHE

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

no. get the sensor. do you understand what that is? how we can use it to completely clear an entire chunk of the game?

I'M TOWN YOU COMPLETE MORON.

YOU WONT BE GETTING GODDAMN SENSOR BECAUSE IM TOWN.

[AngryPidgeon]

I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE CENSOR DOES, JESUS.

ITS JUST A DISTRACTION FROM GOOD TOWN PLAY.

GOOD JOB SCUM.

GG.

OBJECTIVES TOO GOOD.

WELL WE CAN LYNCH TOWN SO LONG AS WE GET OBJECTIVES HAHAHAHA.

[AngryPidgeon]

this made me laugh

ap claimed gun giver or whatever on thorella in reboot

I claim when I have to.

I LITERALLY CLAIMED 'NEGATIVE-UTILITY' IN MY 2ND? POST. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING I DO AS SCUM. EVER.

EVER.

EVER.

[AngryPidgeon]

Can we get one of them Speaker of the Dead analysis please, like 4157?

It will be your eternal town contribution.

IM NOT GIVING THIS GAME ANY MORE EFFORT THAN I HAVE TO.

I READ 150 PAGS IN ABOUT 24 HOURS.

JUST TO GET TRACKED BY SOME RANDOM DUMB WHO THINKS IM SCUM DESPITE CLEARLY DOING ALL THIS READING OVER NIGHT IN OUR PT.

AND OUTTED FOR GARBAGE REASONS.

AND MIST SPREAD ALL OVER MY LYNCH IN A HUGE CF.

NO TOWN DESERVES THIS LOSS.

HAHAHAHAAHAHA.

GOOD JOB MUFFIN IF YOU ARE SCUM THEN YOU GET YOUR OWN CUSTOMIZED REVENGE AVATAR. ITS JUST LIKE TALES!

PV AND NATI MISLYNCHING MASTIN.

YOU GETTING OFF'D DESPITE BEING LOLZTOWN.

[AngryPidgeon]

SPEAKER IS SCUM.

IT BEING MULTIBALL MAKES THAT VERY POSSIBLE.

THEIR REACTIONS TO MY WAGON TODAY ARE REALLY TERRIBLE AND I KNOW MOLLIE CAN READ ME.

WELL ACTUALLY I GUESS SHE REALLY DOES THINK IM SCUM WHICH IS GARBAGE, IDK.

GO AHEAD ANY LYNCH THEM, IDGAF. THEY DESERVE IT.

YA THEY ARE SCUM WHATEVER.

[AngryPidgeon]

IF I GET ANY MORE VOTES, I'LL SABOTAGE THE OBJECTIVES?

HOW DOES THAT SOUND?

YOU WANT YOUR FUCKING OBJECTIVES?

HAHAHAHAHAAH

I KNWO YOU WONT DO IT.

[AngryPidgeon]

YES.

IM NOT GETTING LYNCHED AS A TOWN VIG.

THAT IS SHAMEFUL.

SHAMEFUL

[AngryPidgeon]

AND THESE OBJECTIVES ARE ENCOURAGING ANTI-TOWN PLAY ACROSS THE BOARD ANYHOW.

OK WE CAN MISLYNCH A PR ITS OK BECAUSE OBJECTIVES!!111ONE!!1

[AngryPidgeon]

VIGS DONT GET LYNCHED.

EVER.

NOT WHEN THERE ARE PROVEN VIG SHOTS. AND NOT ON D2 OF A MULTIBALL GAME.

GG.

TOWN LOSES AGAIN.

MUFFIN/MOLLIE LYNCH TOMORROW.

THANKS.

PEDIT: YES. I DONT CARE. I REALLY DO NOT CARE. I CANT BE FUCKED TO CARE. I HAVE PROVIDED SO MUCH EVIDENCE THAT IM TOWN AND PEOPLE ARE MISLYNCHING A CLAIMED VIG.

FUCK EVERYONE.

[AngryPidgeon]

OH LYNCH IKA TOO. THE WAY HE HANDLED MY CLAIM WAS RETARDED AS FUCK AND I WAS A SHITTY TRACK TARGET.

THEN DONT LYNCH ME IF YOU REALLY CARE.

YOU ARE LIKE "WELL YOU ARE TOWN LOL, BUT WE ARE LYNCHING YOU BECAUSE CENSOR!!!"

WOOOOOOOOO

WOOOOO

I HOPE THAT CENSOR GETS YOU ALLLLL THE SCUM ETL.

[AngryPidgeon]

IM NOT GETTING LYNCHED AS A TOWN VIG.

THAT IS SHAMEFUL.

SHAMEFUL

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey AP, why are you being so unreasonable??

Gosh let me think about that.

I am beng lynched:
1) despite people thinking I'm town
2) because lol mechanics!!
3) because someone claimed something and I have no idea what the hell was claimed and it will probably get misted over anyhow.
4) despite being NK bait.

GG

Good town play.

I have every right to call you morons.

Muffin is scum for letting this happen.

He of all people should know how Im feeling right now.

Die in a fire muffin.

[AngryPidgeon]

lol, ap. you pretty much scumclaimed when you listed yourself as big bird in the neighbourhood list. plus you didn't yell at me for obvtowning in that obnoxious way I have that you hate. but muffina had you as town and that he was not interested in playing anymore if you were lynched and flipped town. so I sig betted him and I backed off cos as sure as I was I wasn't a 100% even I think I know who the real vig is.

does anybody know how awsum it is going to be lording it over muffina? lol

I love this hydra.

Oh is it ULF?

Ya the real vig is obviously sonic, must be el oh el.

[AngryPidgeon]

Mollie I expect to be wrong a fair amount of the time.

Muffin though.

Muffin is scum for this.

I want muffin's fangy head on a pike.

Im Burden of Proficiency'ing him and he needs death after I die.

[AngryPidgeon]

Im already a dead man walking. Why the hell do you idiots think Im raging.

Cause I like to troll? Cause Im scum? No.

I MIGHT be able to do that as scum if I felt I could coase off of it.

Im not making it to endgame this game, so that isnt even a possibility.

Why do you guys think I would claim a vig shot? I could have claimed anything under the rainbow. Anything at all!~

Muffin, good job you got your revenge.

Hope you and mollie have a good laugh about it.

[AngryPidgeon]

Bork and mollie are scum.

PV and NS are town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Whatever you need to do to justify your awesome reads!

[AngryPidgeon]

better try to insult everyone in the game rather than try and reason with them nicely

No I tried that.

I really did.

You can read my posts.

I reasoned with PV.

For posts and posts.

I reasoned with EtL and Bork.

I knew my ship was sunk when BORK claimed 'mystery investigate' on me.

So dont tell me that I didnt try.

And dont justify this lynch by calling it a 'policy'.

You all refused to listen to my evidence.

GG.

[AngryPidgeon]

like I am not taking anything he says srsly

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Remember Too many heads mafia Mollie?

Lets not get to that point. Lets not. But Im basically there right now.

[AngryPidgeon]

Can I not be eternally shamed by getting mislynhced as a confirmable town role? Excuse me, CONFIRMED town role?

Unless someone is speccing that there are 3 anti-town kills, I am claiming a town role. And Im NK bait.

Why is this hard.

Im still screwing up objectives if you guys lynch me because I want to contribute to my teams self destruction as well.

[AngryPidgeon]

No, its my only bargaining chip.

Its pretty much the only thing you magpies might let me live over.

Im not this glib as scum. Im not this depressed.

Ok Hidden Temple, lel. Meh.

Whatever. Mollie if you think this isn't real then you really have no idea how to read me.

[AngryPidgeon]

or if by some oddity he's actually town gets modkilled for playing against wincon

Right ya so Toogeloo is scum or modkilled? willywonka.jpeg

[AngryPidgeon]

What evidence?

Can we just claim it?

Half the reason I'm pissed off is because Im being shamefully lynched despite arguing away any 'case' on me because there is LOL EVIDENCE LOL that scum

probably

know anyways yet I get to just die to it as town.

[AngryPidgeon]

No, I am using it as a bargaining chip to prevent a mislynch on a town power role.

[AngryPidgeon]

It doesn't matter. I'm town so you wont be getting any objectives from being within 11.5 feet of my wagon.

Im fine with lynching Rubik today.

[AngryPidgeon]

Mollie needs to convince me that this is completely oblivious Mollie from Too Many Heads if she doesnt want me screaming for her head on a pike over BoP for BOTH of the heads there.

[AngryPidgeon]

so why you are so pissed off at me specifically is a bit confusing.

Because you basically said that all my rage was fake annnnnd I expect better from you. You are acting like Im just caught scum and either going for a hail mary or trolling for kicks. Neither is the case.

I am not letting myself get lynched as a confirmed town role. I will fight tooth and nail to stop that idiocy. Evidence from Bork's hood can go fuck itself.

[AngryPidgeon]

I think your still kicking and screaming because you have 6ish votes and 9 are needed to lynch. Until you're lynched, you'll fling that wine to try to get us to drink.

Oh ya just like what Titus did yesterday.

Right this isn't the exact same mislynch material.

[AngryPidgeon]

Lynching me is OBJECTIVELY BAD PLAY.

I am NK BAIT

PREDICT ME FOR THE NK.

LET THE VIG SHOOT ME.

LET SCUM KILL ME.

I am a claimed confirmed town role. Either I get shot by the person that is actually town vig or scum shoots me.

We dont waste time misylnching a PR because LOLEVIDENCE which scum already knows about but the people refuse to claim because they dont know how to play.

[AngryPidgeon]

You already know why this doesn't work.

No I really don't. And TBH I would love the opportunity to make it to N3 if it doesn't!

Learn to read people; I know everyone wants to be the hero that caught AP. Lol such scum game.

Im actually town though and many of you will look pants on head after I flip.

I'd like to hear why objectively good play is a bad idea though!

[AngryPidgeon]

K so I was probably wrong about Mollie then I guess.

[AngryPidgeon]

Its not like my flailing and attacking is unjustified.

I tried being patient with the scumreads on me.

I argued reasonably.

I was 100% confident that Bork was going to report back and say "ya ok I guess AP is town" because... I am town.

When that didn't happen, I knew the chances of me being lynched went way up.

I am pissed off because vigilantes don't get lynched. I pride myself on at least being persuasive and being a VIG on top of that makes this lynch all the more shameful.

I don't even get to know what the 'case' on me is. Its just some random lie in some neighborhood that may even just be someone faking something blindly, who the hell knows.

"Letting me of easy". lmao. If you have an actual case, I'll respond to it. And have. Im not going to put up with mystery claim X being 'incriminating' against me though.

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm doing my best to not get quicklynched as a town PR. That is playing to my wincon. The ends justify the means.

PV's 'case' on me is just so bad, I can only put up with responding to it for so long before I get upset. I know how muffin felt in Tales of You now. I want to talk to him at least.

Im in no mental condition to make a list right now, and I posted where I was last night. Multiscum makes this different than I originally thought. All the crap that has happened today is overloading me here and I cant process it sanely.

[AngryPidgeon]

You shot someone that wasn't remotely scummy.

Nope, that was you in Tales of You.

My remarks were not contradictory, as already explained. I considered vigging the following people on N1: Majiffy, MacCheese, Bork, ULF, SKOT, Rubik, EtL. All of these people crossed my mind as vig targets for at least a second or two (never considered EtL or Rubiks or SKOT for very long). I shot one of the people that I considered vigging. I then posted about the current game state to suggest lynching SKOT/ULF. There is no contradiction there. I simply never mentioned MacCheese at all because I was kind of intending to vig them the whole time and didn't want to be like "Ya Mac and Cheese is scum scum scum lol" and then have the scum realize that someone other than them shot Mac/Cheese. This is actually what went through my head.

If a kill on me is stopped for some reason, then lynch me. I have nothing to hide.

[AngryPidgeon]

So just that one extra night is all you need?

You can't use your ability, so why is that ONE EXTRA NIGHT so important?

Because I intend to cross that bridge if I come to it.

I have some amount of faith that I will be shot or cleared tonight.

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm clearly not a mafia PR unless you think Im odd night strongman or something. I have motivation for not wanting to be lynched as either alignment. Your point is weak.

[AngryPidgeon]

And if you think Im going to be protected then hurry hurry super scurry, use your little PRs on me to see who is protecting me.

I doubt my scumteam will risk identifying themselves with a sinking ship.

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm sorry I'll use subjunctive tense next time professor charizard.

[AngryPidgeon]

I don't understand why you need to live through night 2. It seems to be for no reason but your pride.

Yes, and? I find that a pretty compelling motivation.

If no one clears you or you live THEN we can lynch you.

not to repeat myself more times, but:

I have some amount of faith that I will be shot or cleared tonight.

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You know, because then you'll..........be in the exact same position you are now?

It doesn't make sense to me.

Yes, and? If scum want to leave me alive (or more likely both scumteams enter a game of WIFOM about which should kill me and neither does) then we can talk about more things on D3.

You want explicit town motive for me wanting to not be lynched? How about because we can unlock the sensor if we lynch scum today rather than unlocking it

never

sometime in the distant future.

[AngryPidgeon]

UNVOTE:

[AngryPidgeon]

we have some information related to his claim in our neighborhood that we need to work out

Ok then lets work that out now.

What on earth could there possibly be.

I dont want there to be any ambiguous crap tomorrow about the nature of this evidence and what it means.

[AngryPidgeon]

There is scum in your neighborhood. Stop pretending there isnt and give me the info.

[AngryPidgeon]

AP is going to flip scum and I am against any plan that doesn't lynch him today.

[AngryPidgeon]

Bork is on Majiffy's team specifically.

not that anyone cares.

[AngryPidgeon]

Its cool, I know you think Im on scumteam B, but Im not and you are going to look hilarious when that comes out.

[AngryPidgeon]

Well there is no good reason for thinking Im scum in the first place, -shrug-.

[AngryPidgeon]

Sonic is soft ccing me in my own PT fwiw.

I have no idea what to make of it.

[AngryPidgeon]

Whatever. Im scum for setup reasons apparently.

I wish ffery were here.

[AngryPidgeon]

ap visited mc

phonepost , not reading the thread

Your claim is good

however ap claiming 'vigilante' can't be possible

paraphrased because I dunno if I can directly quote it, but.

No. Not a direct CC.

[AngryPidgeon]

Still town.

Its cool that Im getting lynched for setup reasons on D2 of a large them though.

[AngryPidgeon]

Muffin just vote me. I want out.

[AngryPidgeon]

This game is even more fucked than graveyard shift. I wash my hands of it.

[AngryPidgeon]

Serious talk, I teared up a little. That's exactly what I needed to hear.

Re PV: I'm leaning slightly town on him right now. Honestly he has been over vested in his push on me. I don't particularly see why he would stick his neck out so far as scum when "lolevidence" and general consensus is that I'm confirmed scum. Now given that it's prob multi faction I could be way of base and PV is scum and legitimately thinks I'm confscum. I don't know. I'm reading his persistence as stubborn town who is probably caught up in getting revenge for Tales. His train of thought looks genuine. It's like I can feel the gears teeing to spin but the rust of vengeance won't let them.

[AngryPidgeon]

Trying* on phone.

I don't feel amazing about that read but yeh. At least pv is doing his best to make a case. He just wants to pin me so bad he can't parse my answers. Scum or tunneling I think the latter has more motive.

[AngryPidgeon]

PV is one of the few people taking some direct responsibility in pushing me. The others are going at it as a neighborhood or just sort of following suit. PV is trying his Darndest to punch holes in my posts and I think he can reasonably expect that to look bad if I flip town.

I don't know. Sonic has directly stated that I'm lying about my role. The other thrusts on me are all about information that apparently is strong enough to lynch nk bait with. I would argue that just sheeping along makes more sense and PV is doing that the least.

I can see him wanting vengeance for Tales ssubconsciously or at least not trusting me.

Mollie misreading me here is a laugh.

[AngryPidgeon]

Go back to being a lurksack Eek.

[AngryPidgeon]

if AP is scum he'll self-hammer anyway

You get me! You really do.

I'd probably self hammer as town too though and say something like "lol you guys got me" just to watch NS be happy for like 5 minutes before the flip.

[AngryPidgeon]

fwiw, AP, this is actually unfair since mollie was considering the possibility that bork was scum well before you even mentioned it, and so was i

but i told her to stay quiet about it because it makes it far more likely bork will be crosskilled if he's scum and if he's actually town who cares?

Stop stealing my thunder. I want bragging rights for the Bork flip.

[AngryPidgeon]

Muffin, is Vol scum?

I think Eek is just a frustrated townie maybe but vol is being kind of a silly goose.

P-edit: Ok man. I dont really get your vendetta against me. OMG ap yelled at some people. Boo hoo. I have legitimate reasons for being upset about this game.