Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

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Sup ya'll, what's goin on?

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neighborizer or neighbor?

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Interesting, both alive, will do some reading tonight, come back with something tomorrow.

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Dunno, If I was scum I would off neighbors early, especially if one of the neighbors was also scum.

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Errrr, no, if one scum one town, scum knows town neighbor is town, offs town neighbor, one dead town neighbor looks like both neighbors town. Sends in to huge wifom spiral, easily rideable till endgame with good scum. Always assume scum is smart.

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I spect both neighbors town, without reading anything.

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Aaaaaand VOTE: titus. Game reading unnecessary . Choo-Choo.

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People Voting Titus, why is he scum?

Does anyone out there have a hard town read on titus, if so why?

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<Not doc. Liking pere for town though.

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ah fuck.... UNVOTE:

I just isoed pie, the dead scum. The interaction between him and titus is to hardcore for that to be a distancing act, titus is town :/.

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...... the opening post has pie as red, not gray, am i wrong in thinking that means scum on this site? I haven't been gone that long have I? X_X.

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Based on my reading I assumed the serial killer was a gambit as pie flipped scum, am I incorrect? Is DV in fact the only scum flip?

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back to VOTE: titus it is.

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yeah not liking 6354 from titus either, lynchity lynchity lynch.

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Is there evidence that titus is vig and not just scum faking it? I haven't been through the kill log.

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Godammit... no scum don't get dayvigs unless something is seriously screwy or we're in multiball.

UNVOTE:

Just once I'd like to step in to a game and be right about something.

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Feel like throwing me a link to the nacho case? Otherwise I think I might vote kanye.

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Ok, the only bad thing I see on nacho is the l-1 vote, and that's excusable.

What isn't excusable is a vote following a new player coming in, on to a wagon that should be obviously bad to him, because he already knew titus was a proven dayvig.

VOTE: kanye

Tell me kanye, why is titus scum?

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..... <Has never seen scum dayvig. I don't like how kanye hopped on the wagon.

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agar, doesn't post 6362 prove titus has a daykill?

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Mmmm, why were you pushing his lynch yesterday when he has a proven dayvig, i.e a totally overpowered scum ability.

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Meh, one of you is definitely scum :/ I am now convinced of it.

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You both jumped the other one hard as soon as I voted for him, despite not being on him before i got here, but since we're not in multiball you can't both be scum.

I guess it's possible you're both well intentioned though misled townies, but I find it unlikely.

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I've been told my logic is bad quite a bit this game. I find it odd that you are arguing with me when you think titus is scum though :/. According to you am I not right in that hypothesis?

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Lynch on sight, a leashed SK will always be looking for a way out and to force the town in to a kingmaker situation between himself and scum.

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Why?

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Great, can we lynch kanye now?

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Who are your town read titus, and while you're at it your non kanye scumreads.

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I think leviathen is town btw, because etl is probably scum, those are the two claimed neighbors yes?

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No wait, I had decided that the two neighbors were town hadn't I?.... this game is confusing X_X.

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I had logic, that said they were both town, but etl is scummy :/.

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I don't really like his interactions with levi.

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Enlighten me, sakura stuff?

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Goddammit titus, stop being so scummy when I think you're town :/.

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No, I can't. VOTE: titus.

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Shouldn't kanye be dead if you're town since you're the vig and you scum read him?

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Site is shitting itself aint it.....

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yay nati.

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Nah, I like it here, it's comfortable.

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gains steam, you're at l-2, flail more.

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Your reaction to me made you scum.

Wtf is 6509?

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wow, titus and levi at l-1 and no hammer, this shit be crazy.

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VOTE: etl loving it.

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Not just looks townie, Leviathen is almost certainly town given how the wagons formed yesterday.

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Levi was the counter wagon to titus, and there were only two wagons, no way in hell both wagons were on scum.

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though actually, that suggests nacho scum, hardcore, because there was the start of a counter wagon on him, that got shot down.

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..... no, please see the post directly above yours.

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Yeah, my gut got me titus, Ima keep following it, VOTE: nacho

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Walked in to game and nailed two scum, feeling pretty good about myself . Since the first two leaps of faith I made worked I'm gonna make a third. I think ETL and Levi are both town. I've been waffling a bit on this read, but the fact that their both alive, coupled with one of them being the not-nacho not-titus wagon, and the fact that they both voted nacho today, as votes three and four, makes this a relatively hard read for me. Given titus-scum I also think kanye is pretty hardcore town.

So town is
Me-Kanye-Levi-ETL

Other is
Belisarius-Agar-PV-Nati

If there are two scum left I'm gonna go ahead and call nati/agar. A Nati scumflip pretty much hard clears PV, though it would in turn suggest I might be wrong about leviathen. I want to move belisarius to my town reads section but that hammer is a tad suspicious. I don't have any wagon analysis to clear PV, but I've really been liking the posts of his I've seen, would not really want to lynch.

Hey Kanye, what are the odds natirasha has been faking getting the same kind of secret messages you have from his scumbuddy nacho?

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Kanye, get in here and answer my question.

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I want everyone to ask yourself this question, why did leviathan die, and get back to me.

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Agar, I will accept that as your response for purposes of this experiment, however I still request that everyone else respond.

And yes beli, that is exactly what I want right now, all should become clear shortly.

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Waiting on nati-kanye-PV, and kanye to answer from yesterday, I'll probably have a vote after I finish collecting responses.

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Kanye, answer my nati question, now.

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....We were so in sync bro, and now you're calling me scum and not talking to me....
Fuckit, waiting for Agar and PV before I lay anything down.

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No objection.

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ETL get the fuck off yourself, and also get the fuck off Kanye, I don't buy that he bussed titus AND Nacho, do you?

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Agar/PV.... pooooooke!

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Given the level of your response I somehow do not feel that I am the one that needs chilling. That however is irrelevant, happy holidays, answer question please.

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I am waiting on PV, after he has responded to my start of day question I will claim, and likely vote, in my next post.

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If you're willing to give actual analysis before I proceed I would love some before I go slamming votes on people, however that's plenty for a claim.

I'm Kojiro Murdoch

No standard or Mobile Suit abilities.

Next!

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Ok, glad I have all the responses, thanks guys. For purposes of the next paragraph or so I am assuming one scum left, and I am assuming kanye town, mostly because I still don't buy the early double bus in the slightest.

Me and Kanye are in fact still mostly in sync, we just reach slightly different conclusions.

Leviathen was killed for one of two purposes.
A) ETL is the last scum, and flipping her partner as town is a ploy to make me, and the rest of the town who sides with me on the two town neighbors theory clear her and push her through in to the endgame.
B) Natirasha, Agar, PV, or Belisarius Killed leviathen to setup an easy ETL lynch.

Kanye thinks A) I think B).

On top of that, nati has started pushing me, after I pushed him. This makes me think I can put natirasha in my town pile, if he killed levi, he'd be pushing ETL.

I dunno the theme behind this but belisarius seems rather set on his "Clotho is the last scum" read. This reads as towny to me. However what he also did was respond, very readily to my question, in a way that makes it hard to actually attribute his responses back to him.

PV answered my questions honestly, and with good thought, and he did some good analysis on the day titus died. I wish this made him town, it feels like he should be, but I can't quite dismiss that nagging feeling.

Agar hasn't done anything usefull since being on titus's lynch and he flatly refused to speculate, which leads me to believe he doesn't want us thinking to hard. This makes me want to vote him, just because he irritates me, but honestly I think if he had been attempting to go for the levi kill he would have been only too happy to speculate.

On that premise, if option B) The last scum is in Belisauras/PV
If Option A) The last scum is ETL

I would now like to bring your attention to post 6501, a votecount.
leviathan93 (4) - Belisarius, PeregrineV, NachoKoopa, Titus
NachoKoopa (3) - Pyrotechnics, EspeciallyTheLies, leviathan93
Titus (4) - AGar, kanyeknowsbest, TiphaineDeath, Natirasha

With only three votes down on nacho, when i believe it took 6 to lynch that day, etl was on him. Again this is super early for a bus, I really think ETL is town. Two of the four people on the levi wagon have flipped scum. I'm gonna bet it's three.

So that question then is who of Beli/PV was mislead in to being on the levi wagon, and who was there with their other two scum buddies in an attempt to throw all their weight on one wagon to get it off titus.

The next post I would like you to direct your attention to is 5965 Titus(Scum) Says Majify is probably right when he suspects Nati/PV/Levi/Pie. In this same post he says he's going to re-read PV to confirm his townread on him. Not quite sure what this means yet, but I'm damned sure it means something, I'll get back to this. I think it might be that titus is trying to look like he's doing something and then doesn't, I'm not seeing any evidence that he did re-read PV.

But then 5969 comes along with beli saying that levi scum=nacho town and then voting levi, as the first vote. PV immediately follows suit one post later in 5970.

Then in 5991 Beli says that levi town does not = nacho scum

Kanye's 615 again pretty much hard confrims him as town as far as I am concerned.

I'm starting to see beli's setup-spec as more and more fake action than towny suspection. And titus never told him to knock it off, or really referenced him in any way.

Then in 6628 etl jumps on nacho. No way in hell would etl jump on a scumbuddy with levi that close to a lynch.

In 6147 Beli steadfastly refuses to vote nacho while giving a good case against voting nacho and leaving himself the opportunity to vote nacho if he feels the need to bus at a later date.

Yep, I'm ready to call this one, last scum is Beli. Let's end this game people. CHOO-MOTHERFUCKING-CHOO

VOTE: Beli

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Yes actually I would, the re-read I just did, as I said somewhere in that bigass wall, reinforces my theory that Kanye is town. I don't think I will be voting for him this game, pretty much under any circumstances.

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Now vote beli with me, or tell me why you think one of PV/Nati/Agar is scum.

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I would also accept a detailed case on how I have maligned beli and your argument for his towny status.

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Yeah, my thought process of kanye-town is thusly.

I do not see a reasonable universe in which kanye was early on both that titus and nacho wagons, (I think he was vote 1 and 2 respectively, not sure), AND that he was calling them both scum before a major wagon happened on each of them if he was scumbuddies with both.

Get me?

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.... working from there, Etl, and going forward yes, though I'd rather you actually read wtf is going on. And no, there is no multiball, just a serial killer. who is dead.

kanye what is 6758 refering to, Beli's flavor theory?

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Also kanye, check how ETL is fighting me when I'm fighting for him, not just agreeing to everything i say and insta voting beli.

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:/ well if that's where you are I'm not sure I can do much to alleviate your fears, thanks for the compliment though. If I accepted a 1v1 with beli on the condition the he die first would that do it? Cause I really am that confident at this point.

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Harsh, well, so am I. guess that puts us in opposition, sorry buddy. If you get what you want and either me or ETL flip town though, remember this conversation and go for beli.

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If I've totally misread beli or if there are two scum PV is scum. Agar and Nat irritate me but I don't think they are.

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Did anyone read my wall? If not go do so, I detailed it there .

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Sure, beli is probably Clotho.

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Aaaand add inconsistency to the long list of beli's crimes.

Hey beli, weren't you going to scan me tonight?

Lynch-this-scum-now.

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Oh, you already scanned nati huh? Scuse the the mis-read, carry on scum-boy <3.

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Well it's 5am and I forgot, also I wasn't here three days ago and haven't really been paying much attention to beli till today.

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Diction analysis, wat?

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Hard to say the same thing five times huh? You still only have one vote on you and you've been saying "ok then flip me" an awful lot.

Fake bravado anyone?

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This can only end in a wifom shitstorm, and yet I feel I must, why are you voting me nati?

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Sooooo, your case is based, not on anything I have done said or been anywhere near, but on what this slot has done in the past before i got here.

Yeah ok, you have fun with that.

Also I'd like to point out your theory requires me to have not only double early bussed already but be going for a third one right now.

E-tu Agar?

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3/3 or 3/4>2/3? Whatever.

Walk into game, nail three scum, get lynched. I remember why I quit this stupid game.

Fuck you guys, I hope beli wins. I'll predict the rest of this game for you, just for kicks.

Dumbass Nati and agar have already voted me, etl and kanye seem to think I'm scum, one of them will vote me, beli or pv will hammer, then nati or kanye will die in the night. No one will listen to my final words of "vote beli you dumbfucks" you'll mislynch again, and then beli and PV will win.

Might be beli and agar or beli and nati though, agars vote on me is for shit and nati has no real case.

Pretty damned sure there are 2 scum left at this point though.

Good Luck TD-Out.

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HEhehehehehe, I actually hadn't noticed that, nice catch PV, hummmmm. Maybe I was right yesterday and this whole beli thing is a wild goose chase.

He sure looks like scum though :/.

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Mmmm, I've been so super confident on my reads I haven't needed to?

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I got some connections in my wall, they were there, why does no one read my shit Q_Q.

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Why don't you be useful and go check PV, instaid of telling other people to, also DV means shit because sk.

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Really all I want to do right now is unleash an unthinking stream of profanity in Agar's direction. I'm practicing self control though, so it's his lucky day.

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Well then fuck you too sir .

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Great, glad you all admit ETL is town, now catchup with the theory. Given that ETl is town, levi was shot to attempt an etl lynch. No vote beli with me.

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Go-Read-My-Wall-Dumbass.

No straws.

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I would replace out if it was going to be more than 4 days, or if I believed in replacing, instead I'll keep posting, but I'd like to reiterate my earlier comments about you guys and the fucking thereof. Just lynch beli once I flip town ok? Otherwise I laugh at you from the dead QT as you lose.

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Etl-kanye- cant give a third really. Everything else I have is POE and speculation.

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That's just a thing I always say, I hate judging a replacer based on predecessors unless there is truly damning evidence, hate it more when it's me.

Agar, you need to learn to not be a conceited shit, kthxbai <3.

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I'm coming back a minute late and realizing that was out of line, sorry agar, I don't really like your attitude but I see where you're coming from, under a lot of stress, nothing personal mate.

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I don't really have much else to say, this is kind of a prod doge post, I'm gonna sit over here on beli and wait for you all to see the light.

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Shush you, I'm busy trying not to yell scum at you even though you are acting it and irritating me because my POE says you're not.

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And I'm really unhappy beli is still alive Agar, but we can't always get what we want.

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Fuck yeah kanye, thas how we do! Sorry I was so tunneled on beli that I failed to see agar, despite him scumming it up hardcore, I'll try to have more confidence in reads in the future, great job buddy, you certainly carried while I was here, and probably throughout most of the rest of the game by the looks of it, will def vote you for scummy.