Bad Idea II Mafia: Game Ovah

[IH]

..Tempting... tempting.....

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Can we still lynch, or do we only have daykills? I don't know....

[IH]

Coron thats the stupidest policy ever. Unless they are the gf, then they've just proved their townieness.

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Also, sweet. No lynches.

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No. Thats not the assumption to make. I will repeat. It's stupid.

It says nothing about their alignment, and I am tempted to kill you just for the heck/stupidity of it.

and indeed. That is why the chicks love him.

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No, I'm telling you that killing someone who has an incredibly high chance of being town than scum is stupid.

I feel it's slightly scummy, and you become dangerous to the town if you automatically want to kill whoever ends the day. You effectively then just about end the towns chances of doing anything by eliminating day killers one by one, and town cannot lynch.

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If you don't have a daykilling ability, please don't fake it, or I will modkill you for real.

Someones dying.

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Yos, he did threaten to kill someone if they ended day 1 early. How would ending day 2 just as early help anything? How scummy is it for (most) of these people to go ahead and give out an early day 1 kill?

Also, we want goons dead first Yos, GF last. If you haven't noticed, if we have a goon pegged, and kill the GF, they can day kill, and we no longer have them pegged, and the cycle goes on.

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Sarc, for the hypo cop, how about people who've already day killed? Would you have them "reveal" and investigation too? or just those confirmed without a kill.

Also, we're losing killers fast, so remember that before you kill any daykillers.... just a thought

and yes, at least Jdodge or Primate are scum...

I need to look at the list of alive before I say anything else.

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Mmm, weren't as many players dead as I thought.

Vote:Pws to kill JD

I would also like to note that I am wary of Jack, and wouldn't be averse to someone killing him in the near future. A day 1 kill I can understand. It gets through the random discussion.

The cubsfan kill, though incredibly stupid, I can kinda understand.

The ancalagon kill I cannot at the moment understand.....

[IH]

Because Pod claimed to have a guilty investigation on him CPE. They can't both be a cop, because one claims he's guilty and one says he's an innocent cop with results. He has to explain why he doesn't just kill pod right on the spot for lying, so the only other role he CAN claim as scum/town is cop.

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I will be VERY suspicious of anyone who kills without waiting for discussion.

You're kidding right?

Right?!?

[IH]

So we have 4 cop claims?

GL why did you come forward.....

Jd needs to die sometime.

I think tomorrow I'm still good with a Jack kill perhaps.

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I want to know these claimed cops logic for their investigation.

[IH]

.....I think we need at least 2 of the claimed cops to investigate the same person. Probably Pod and PWS.

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Why? We know that Primate is a cop. There's no logical way he could not be. And we can be almost as sure that PWS is scum. There is no debate here. GL and Primate are cops, JDodge and PWS are scum. It's that simple, and I am extremely suspicious of anyone who says otherwise.

Don't be stupid sarcastro. PWS and Primate each investigate the same target.
PWS establishes his investigation first.
Primate can either dispute it or not.
As long as their specified target is not night killed, it will be helpful. That's the whole point of them both investigating the same person.

Clearly someone who hasn't daykilled yet.

Either that, or Primate (or another cop) investigate someone on one of the investigated list.

Assuming Primate is town of course, which could be dangerous.

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However, I don't understand how you think Primate could possibly not be a cop. Have you been paying attention? He successfully nailed JDodge as scum. The alternative is that he'a a goon who successfully guessed that JDodge is a cop and decided to sacrifice himself to get rid of JDodge. Think about this for a second. That not only means that he made an incredibly risky gambit successfully, it also means that he for some reason decided that trading goon for cop is worth it for the scum. That makes no sense. The whole point of the cops is that we trade them one-for-one for goons. Why would the scum willingly help the town? And do so in a way that more probably than not will result in doing nothing more than knocking off a goon without taking a cop?

An alternative you have missed is that they are BOTH goons.

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Jack, I'm already ready to shoot you my friend.

I think I want Wizardcat to kill.

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pretty sure Jack is GF. I've stated this before...

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I think it's good that both JDodge and Playswithsquirrels posted fake lists. Is there anyway that we can intuit anything from their fake investigation lists? Because I think Stallingchamp is a good choice based on JDodge's list. But also pws put down drippinggoofball, so we can see that mafia goons have already pretended to have an innocent on the last goon. So would jdodge be bold enough to put down his godfather on the same list? Because it seemed that jdodge was just puting down safe choices on his "investigation list".

You do know that we will have nailed all three goons at this point, correct? I believe those lists should be treated as void.

Jack, how is that above post supposed to alleviate the notion that you are the godfather?

We also have an extremely good chance.

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:Could we end the day with a no kill if we agree to a consensus?

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CPE, you did see he was confirmed scum right? = ( You NEVER listen to what confirmed scum says.

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See, you NEVER listen to them. = )

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So, Results everyone?

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Oh...

= | Well I'm a dumbass.

So who wants to kill PWS?

[IH]

MoS killed, don't be stupid.

I want CPE to kill.

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Can you prod CPE?

[IH]

= | CPE has been a dirty lurker, why do you have to kill right now? Why can;t you just let him get prodded and post?

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But everyone knows Fritz makes rules up that he never follows. Like his rule against having sex with 5-year old girls. Did he even attempt to follow it?

Thou shalt not get caught

[IH]

Wow.... a arguement over the 11th commandment. I am almost ready to kill ih, but I will wait I think.

So why would you kill me?
For discussing the 11th commandment in Twilight?
Calling you a dirty lurker?

[IH]

heh that's what I'm talking about.

btw when we reach 4 alive the gf will win. Probably. Unless they've killed already and we decide on someone to kill before 24 hours.

How do you figure that?

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From the fact that the cop is dead, I'm actually saying we have a newer player.

It's stupid for the scum to kill the cop, because they are essentially useless now that all the goons are dead. If they would keep the cops alive, they'd win quicker, because GF would win quicker with cops alive.

At the moment, I'm leaning towards wizard cat the most.

[IH]

From the fact that the cop is dead, I'm actually saying we have a newer player.

It's stupid for the scum to kill the cop, because they are essentially useless now that all the goons are dead. If they would keep the cops alive, they'd win quicker, because GF would win quicker with cops alive.

At the moment, I'm leaning towards wizard cat the most.

I wanted to bring this back up, since CPE killed right after I stated this.

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MoS-First of all, he was an unconfirmed.

Woot! I get to say something before the thread closes for once! Despite the hilarity of "being Cubs" being an awful meta choice, Shea's an idiot.

Despite this, I don't think blindly fishing for the godfather is the right move. I think Bird1111 should kill Ubertimmy. Nice doublepost btw, Bird. Get a little nervous?

Second of all is wanting bird to kill timmy. He seems to be suspicious of bird from a double post... when his double post was an EBWOP.

He also says "We should stop blindly fishing", so why did he want Bird to kill Timmy? He was still doing it randomly.

Easy on the language, Jath. Just because you don't know good pizza and we lynched you is not a reason to come out today guns ablazin'. If the concensus is that I should kill JDodge I shall come forward.

This is assuming that Primate is telling the truth. I don't see any reason why he's not. This would be a pretty awful gambit, no?

This also tips off he doesn't have a kill. First of all, he doesn't ask why. Second of all, he's trying to wait it out for 'the consensus of the town to kill JD"

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I want everyone to answer MoS's questions before there is a kill.

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Also, I need to go over MoS some.

I don't really see the point in directing WHO does the kill, since we already know who the last goon is. Everyone left in the game except the cops can kill, so there's no point in choosing who you want to be making the kill, really. The only logical way to choose who makes the kill is to choose someone who you think is the most innocent, therefore maximizing our chances of killing the godfather.

MoS, I want you to explain your reasoning, considering some rules. Since you've clearly acknowledged the 24 hour rule from this post beforehand.

Can anyone who has killed kill again yet?

We can still just lynch people, can't we? Or is the only method of ending the day through daykills?

Also wondering what the point of this question was.

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EBWOP-On the end of the lynch question to MoS, I meant "What was the point when it had already been answered."

[IH]

........

I hate you Jack. So very much. I'm killing you in the morning.

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How many times has Jack Killed?

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Before this time?

Also, I'm confident that Jack is the godfather, because of THIS statement.

Hey, it was him or me.

What kind of town is going to think like that? This isn't a survivor game.

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We also missed that Jack kill not counting by around 3 minutes. I'm pretty sure he was watching to get that in as soon as possible.

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I am most definitely killing Jack in the morning, because he'll wait til we have 48 hours of discussion, and then fire. Like he did today.

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EBWOP:If I am nightkilled, someone else do it in my place. It is of upmost importance, because if Jack is the GF, and everyone pushes for discussion, he's going to cruise to a win.

This needs to be something that anyone who violates will be threatened with death to counterbalance it.

So in the morning, Jack needs to die ASAP.

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How many more kills do we have until we hit DKLo?

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I think.... now I wanna kill Wizardcat today, and get StallingChamp deaded tomorrow.

StallingChamp seems to eager to make the kills, trying to gain town's consent to go as soon as possible. I didn't take that into account when I made my earlier statements about Jack and am regretting them now.

[IH]

mm... no, not really. They're interchangeable. It might be better for Stalling champ to die today since he seems to be more of a threat.

[IH]

I'm even sadder I missed my chance to daykill. = (