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no, you have it all wrong. i'm voting him because i want to. and i'm calling him scum because why not?peacebringer wrote:So thinking it over, people are voting and calling SleepyKrew scum because of perhaps these 2 things. Now, as I read negative utility it is not declaring scum but declaring that his role has a negative impact on the village. So the player is town but may have some impact that does not benefit town.
no we don'tpeacebringer wrote:we need to know what the "negative utility" isIt's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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he isn'tdante wrote:Most likely he's claiming Miller.
wait, you actually think sleepykrew is scum? i didn't know there were serious votes.bbmolla wrote:I think he's just scum for his postings.
not hard to figure out that MUM is the reason it's 10 to lynch, or there's a hidden voting mechanic of some sort.viera wrote:?
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you're not actually "scum hunting". you're just calling what you're doing "scum hunting".n&m wrote:since when did scumhunting become an "overreaction".
i feel honoured.n&m wrote:feeble and sad push from your slot may possibly be town.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i'm reading it as a playstyle thing more than an alignment thing. and when i read it this way, his posts make sense as town (just misguided).dv wrote:I think that this is because he was scum under the impression that this is what the townies were doingIt's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i am surpriseddopog wrote:Overly "suprised" that BB (maybe others) are reading him as scum.
describe why you think it's scummydopog wrote:I legit cannot express how contrived + scummy it feels.
also if you think pb is scum, and far more people have expressed a similar suspicion, why are you unvoting him for me?
i think this has to do with his conception of what someone claiming a negative utility role means about their alignment.dv wrote:I can't really get over how he continued to stand by SKrew needing to be pressured after it was revealed that no one was really interested in that.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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this doesn't particularly bother me. i read it as him not really paying much attention to it when it first happened, seeing the votes on him, trying to figure out why, then going back and re-evaluating sleepykrew's posts.dv wrote:Rail Tracer, but he didn't think anything of SKrew claiming it when he first read it, which is where my problem lies.
i can see where you're coming from, kinda, but i'm not reading it the same wayIt's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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you think pushing a wagondopog wrote:which a) keeps rvs + fluff posting going which sucks whilst contrivedly looking helpfulkeeps rvs going? in what fucking world? and why do you think my fluff posting was me trying to "look helpful" when that clearly isn't the case at all.
if your thinking is that i was trying to get SK lynched, why do you think i would admit i don't even find him scummy, and that i'm not voting him for any good reason? and why do you think i unvoted? surely if my plan were a lynch on SK the easier method for achieving this is to pretend i find something scummy about him, no?dopog wrote:but is also in the wider scope indicitave of what you need to do as scum (get people lycnhed)
i do think SK could be town. i was gut reading him as town from his first post. and i am genuinely surprised that there are people who think he's scum.dopog wrote:which seems to indicate he probably knows that sleepykrew is town (or not on his scumteam, etc.)
you're not correctly analysing it because you have this silly idea that my play makes sense as scum but you haven't really explained how it does.dopog wrote:I mean when you read the motivation behind what he's saying and the unconscious implicatures of it; it is scummy.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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why?mnemonic wrote:This isn't random. He is by far the most scummy person so far.
who is scum if peacebringer is town?nani wrote:Sup Peace, after 5 pages who is scum and why?
why do you think he said he thinks SK could be town? do you think he's dumb scum?nani wrote:You are voting a player that you think is town.
who is scum if peacebringer is town?katsuki wrote:lol as if PB wasn't scum enough with that post quoted above.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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the exchange i had with him near the bottom of p4 looked kinda town. at least enough that i don't care about them at the moment.dv wrote:If someone with a townread on neroandmollie could explain why, that would be great.
why?ooba wrote:No read on PB yet - but if dopog is scum, PB has good chances of being his partner
don't hold your breath.sk wrote:So VA are you actually going to do anything?
nah. i don't agree with most of ooba's reads so far but it looks town.peace wrote:okay that was a mega scummy post from oobaIt's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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how do you get that from my vote on you?bbmolla wrote:^He's town
why?bbmolla wrote:UNVOTE:
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why did you think he was scum?bbmolla wrote:Revelations have me believing SK's role for the moment.
how are you town on sleepykrew and null on me? like, how have you not at least formed some sort of read on me?neromollie wrote:rail is null.
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you (or your other head) have formed a town read on sleepykrew off almost no content, i'm wondering how you haven't formed any read on me whatsoever given the amount of stuff i've posted.neromollie wrote:Tell me why I shouldn't have you as null?It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i'm still not seeing how you think i'm town for the vote on you.
i think the second part of mnemonic's first post looked townish. why is it scummy?
and why did sk's claim make you think scum? i assumed you had some other reason, given you citing his "posting" as the reason when i asked about it earlier... (see 56)It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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so the two possibilities you're asserting here are that it's either meaningless or DV is really, really fucking dumb scum? got it.neromollie wrote:DV saying that he thinks its MB in a 17 player game and not explaining why he made that comment equates to fluff posting/inside informationIt's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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why does it matter? it's a possibility i too was considering when i asked you why you found it strange that he couldn't scum read you because you were scum reading his scum read. i don't think it's necessarily multiball, but i'm not ruling it out.
i don't know why he said he thinks it's multiball but i can think of a number of possible explanations that make sense from a town perspective and virtually none that make sense from a scum perspective unless you just think he's a really fucking horrible player.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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again, i can think of a number of possibilities (INCLUDING TRUTHFULLY ANSWERING THE FUCKING QUESTION YOU ASKED HIM).neromollie wrote:the town motivation of making that claim is what?
even if you could show this to be true (and i don't think you'd be able to provide many, if any, instances of scum saying "i think it's multiball" a few pages into a game), you would have to show that town don't say similar things in order for this to be significant in any way.neromollie wrote:Scum often hint at there being a second killing faction early on.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i had popcorn ready for this and everything. disappointed.In post 209, dopog wrote:Erm so now I'm thinking a rail / mnemonic scumteam seems legit
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i don't have a strong read one way or the other on katsuki's early posts. 305 is a pretty horrible post though. even apart from the fact it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, it's just lazy - no comments on other stuff happening in the game, no questioning anyone, and a theme that's been consistent so far is no effort to hunt scumshadowy wrote:What has he done that is scummy? he hasn't stood out to me yet so farIt's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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hello, BB. answer 219
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i also don't like this post.In post 385, BBmolla wrote:At least leave me with more. Just like post all your reads. Don't care how shitty they look or whatever. Just tell me your thoughts.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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which posts in particular?luna wrote:Kats is town because I actually liked some of his posting regarding his reads etc.
way harder? because he hasn't done much outside of active lurking so far.luna wrote:BBmolla lurks way harder as scum.
i am, but it's only been one head posting so far because the other head is too busy for mafia atm. so whatever read you have on me has nothing to do with me being a hydra.luna wrote:Nacho had to tell me that you're a hydraslot so that makes things different.
so you think i was doing "FEELERS" while simultaneously shutting down other options by calling them town? and you haven't formed a read on me one way or another from the content of my posts?luna wrote:luna wrote:the vote jumping looked more like FEELERS than actual pursuit of suspects.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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... i have no words for how ridiculous this sounds, given the context of what you're quoting.dv wrote:"No!! Don't attack me! 5 other people did what I did, so please read me as town!!!!' Well that's what he's barely managing to restrain himself from saying anyway. I could see myself voting that.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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what about my play is 'tweaking' your scumdar? there's a long list of players now that have called me scum or scummy, and I've yet to really see anyone back up this statement with anything outside of, "i didn't like your early posts." you can call this wifom all you want, but the lack of caution i showed in my early game is more consistent with my town play than my scum play.neromollie wrote:the only other person who is tweaking my scumdar is rail tracer
(1) i hate rvsdopog wrote:There are almost ZERO circumstances I can conceive it as coming from town... And if you say reaction fishing Idek I'd be pretty heated at that haha because your votes didn't seem to be dictated by it (except maybe the one on BBmolla)...
(2) the best way i can conceive of getting reads is to have people talk to me or about me, and playing in a way that draws attention is the best way to do this
(3) it was funny, and i wanted to see how much momentum it would gain
you seem to be assuming i ever expected the sleepykrew wagon to result in a lynch (which, if i did, it kind of doesn't make a lot of sense for me to both jump off the wagon and admit i had no good reason to be on the wagon in the first place).
the thing is, at best you can call my earlygame play somewhat antitown (even though it... really wasn't, but i can somewhat understand that some might be of the opinion that it was) because even if you posit that there's no reason for me to do it as town, there's even less reason for me to do it as scum.
i never claim to know anyone is town or scum. but i am a player that develops a lot of early reads, often based on single posts, depending on the content of the posts.dopog wrote:"Knowing" people are town from beginning of the game => scummy.
but even if i did say i knew he was town, what possible scum motivation can you come up with for this? do you just think i'm a really, really bad player or something?
all this aside, even if you legitimately do come up with reasons that my early play makes sense from the perspective i'm scum, you're not really doing a good job in pushing the lynch on me. perhaps you should either start making up reasons you think my more recent posts are scummy, or try a different approach in trying to paint my early posts as scummy. i'm going to put it bluntly; even if i were scum, you're wasting your vote right now because you're not really convincing anyone that i'm scum.
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the tone of the post was town. he could say something similar as scum, but the way in which it was written looked town.bbmolla wrote:This is townish?
I could vote you and say the same thing and not have any reasoning. It's just a hidden random vote.
but this isn't important. i was asking why you thought it was scummy, not why you don't agree that it's town.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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