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In post 9, Nachomamma8 wrote:hi guys, I'll catch up on the thread in the morning.
catch up with what? you are on the first page and allready doing excuses about not being avaible?-
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yeah i aint kidding. i am miller.
which also makes it impossible for me to be scum since i would have to explain down the road why i am not dead.
so... my scum plan must then involve the following
1. claim miller, hope people buy it
2. if people buy it, hope they dont question why i dont get nk´ed.
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well, since i have claimed you have to make a decision, i am either miller town or scum.In post 26, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why would a miller ever be killed?
if people belive me i will not get heat
scum kills people that get no heat
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your logic involves scum hoping that the cop will investigate me and find guilty... which I, by claiming miller, have allready confirmed will happen.In post 27, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why the actual fuck would scum NK a miller?
there is 0 times out of 100 that a cop will get something else then guilty on me.
i am either scum lying, or miller telling the truth.
orc, i dont know what you mean by dealing in absolutes. i hate my role and if investigated i will die... so i thought i would insta claim
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In post 29, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:oh yeah and for post 25
My vote is now serious
I mean, I don't mind the miller claim. But I do mind the feigned innocence of "oh deary me of course scum would never fakeclaim a miller!" You know why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Your grandmother knows why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Why would you be dishonest like that?
I mean, come on. We're good players here. Don't insult our intelligence.
your intelligence is abscent and if town you are nothing but noise.
sit down and take it slowly, i dont like being pushed against a wall.-
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In post 33, Nachomamma8 wrote:No, he's asking why scum would NK a miller because millers are shitty roles and never really "conftown" whether we believe you or not on the first day.
well sure, but thats day one.. "down the road" i was thinking abit further.
well, in amnesiac i think you wanted to kill ffer night 1 couse she was "obv town"... think it was you, my point is, my role does not really matter, if town decides that i am clear (which they shouldnt, just making a point) and they are correct, then scum will feel cornerd and forced to kill the "clear" person, regardless of him being mechanicly clear or not.
I just claimed because i would hate to have to explain myself later.
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now your are planting words.In post 34, Nachomamma8 wrote:
You don't like being pushed against a wall? You claimed miller and then claimed that you would never fakeclaim miller because then you would have to explain why you were alive or some shit. You shouldn't be surprised at this at all.In post 32, Svenskt Stål wrote:sit down and take it slowly, i dont like being pushed against a wall.
i never said i wouldnt, but its true, i would not.
your reactions are kinda expected but if you look objectively why would i do this as scum? in my eyes i have then limited myself in terms of "lifespan".
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In post 37, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
Fuck what?In post 31, Svenskt Stål wrote:
your logic involves scum hoping that the cop will investigate me and find guilty... which I, by claiming miller, have allready confirmed will happen.In post 27, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why the actual fuck would scum NK a miller?
there is 0 times out of 100 that a cop will get something else then guilty on me.
i am either scum lying, or miller telling the truth.
orc, i dont know what you mean by dealing in absolutes. i hate my role and if investigated i will die... so i thought i would insta claim
i can claim flavor too if that helps
Why would millers ever be investigated after claim
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My logic is that there is obviously a scum motivation behind a fakeclaim. And that is to ward off investigative results. Why haven't you been considering that?
because it is really short term, sooner or later i will have to explain why i am alive. i am a good scum, so there is no need for me to do this as scum in the begining
You dealt in absolutes with regards to how you think you would be perceived by town. It's retarded to assume that "oh yeah town will either think i'm town or think i'm scum. If they think i'm scum, i'm lynched. If they think i'm town, then it's suspicious when i get to endgame"
no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.
I mean, I don't even know where to start in explaining how that doesn't work.
Out rolls the Svensults. Why don't you vote me?In post 32, Svenskt Stål wrote:In post 29, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:oh yeah and for post 25
My vote is now serious
I mean, I don't mind the miller claim. But I do mind the feigned innocence of "oh deary me of course scum would never fakeclaim a miller!" You know why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Your grandmother knows why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Why would you be dishonest like that?
I mean, come on. We're good players here. Don't insult our intelligence.
your intelligence is abscent and if town you are nothing but noise.
sit down and take it slowly, i dont like being pushed against a wall.you can have abscent intellect as town, I have seen it before.-
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lol fuck me. thats scummy.
i was so caught up in my insta claim.-
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why cant you learn from history... like other games we have played, and from that draw some sort of conclusion that will answer your question?In post 46, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
Why is my read on Sven always not shared by peopleIn post 45, GuyInFreezer wrote:I also see Sven as town at this moment.
Can you explain this
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In post 47, Nachomamma8 wrote:Sven, it surprises me that your posting is so incredibly weak because I expected you to be someone to liked aggression, meaning you could handle a bit of heat. But now I see I have to treat you like a emotionally distressed newbie...
okay.
what in my posting is "weak" and why do you care if it is? agression comes when i find something worthy to persue,,, right now all my focus is in defence mode.-
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shouldnt meek equal scummy here?In post 60, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I completely wanted to provoke him. Then he gave me a response that was far more meek than I was expecting regardless of alignment, so I backed the fuck off.In post 58, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Actually I was going to bring this up later but now seems like an apt time. If you wanted to give Sven space to get into his groove, why does it seem like you were trying to provoke him in 47?
and dont call me meek again.-
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In post 49, ² wrote:
no, I'm leaning a little townish on svenskt.In post 44, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Too preoccupied with fabricating the fakeclaim.
Gut read on sven?
Pedit: Oh. >.>
Pedit: let me post
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okay true.In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.In post 50, Svenskt Stål wrote:no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.
There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in
A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.
Why are you not considering maybe
C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^
Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
But regarding outcome C, you will have to ask yourself "why?"
Right? I think I am a very capable scum player so why create all this noise arround me?
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no thank you. iu ahve been up against orc before, he brings out the worst in me and i will do everything to remain calm.In post 66, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Meek doesn't always equal scummy, sometimes it just equals meek.In post 62, Svenskt Stål wrote:
shouldnt meek equal scummy here?In post 60, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I completely wanted to provoke him. Then he gave me a response that was far more meek than I was expecting regardless of alignment, so I backed the fuck off.In post 58, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Actually I was going to bring this up later but now seems like an apt time. If you wanted to give Sven space to get into his groove, why does it seem like you were trying to provoke him in 47?
and dont call me meek again.
And I call it how I see it. If you don't want to be interpreted as meek, don't be meek. Attack something. Defend yourself with more authority. If you're backed against the wall, start cackling like a mental patient.
also people dont listen to me when i am in my dean winchester, king of the world mode.-
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In post 73, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Although I have to admit, if Sven is scum he's playing this beautifully with the thought narration and inner monologue and stuff.
see now i wish i was scum.
how would you have played it thou? wouldnt you have hated if you started getting attached to the game and someone investigates you and you will try to explain? i really did not want that. would you have been quiet?-
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In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.
and the reason for that would be?
couse it sounds like "if town does A, scum should do B"... which in turn sounds bad, since scum should try to duplicate town-
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because i claim to be in a meeting?
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In post 69, Cabd wrote:
Pretty much my thoughts as well. Forcing it into Black or White is really bad when Gray exists. I've also seen plenty of wolves claim miller and make it to a win in endgame, sooo...In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.In post 50, Svenskt Stål wrote:no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.
There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in
A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.
Why are you not considering maybe
C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^
Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
VOTE: sven
here it is.
i dont like it because he is rewording orc´s thoughts just because, or so it feels to me. and i never said gray didnt exist, i just assumed that i would either be lynched or nk and not live to long.
This is odd aswell and just feels like he is getting a chance to "put himself" inside town and distancing from threat.In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town,from this entire thing, IMO.mafia would be staying far awayinto a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.Let us whip ourselves
it lacks natural flow... cant precise it more then that
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it might imply it, but i was merely stating why i was abscent.In post 109, Cabd wrote:
In response to this:In post 107, Svenskt Stål wrote:trying to find a post of someone sponging orc, it was about his a b c cases
cant find it, making me furious
@cabd, where did i state i couldnt post?
you said this:In post 95, Nachomamma8 wrote:Sven, where did you go? I expected you to do things while I gave you space.
Which would imply you were telling us you could not post.In post 96, Svenskt Stål wrote:i have a skype meeting
also it should be clear to you that i should be able to make small posts and not large thoughtout posts under these conditions-
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In post 130, Nachomamma8 wrote:
come on, you know you wannaIn post 125, borkjerfkin wrote:[2] Svenskt Stål (Cabd, Nachomamma8)
there's too many townies who have posted thus far in order for sven to be town
it's just a matter of numbers at this point
you dont make alot of sense but i guess thats your thing.
you are town too.-
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In post 145, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I don't trust her reads that are still in development.In post 143, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I sheeped fery on her Sven read in bork game and it was the best decision of my life
She didn't respond to you in a way that suggested her read was ready.
ffer is way above avarage on this site when it comes to making reads.
no i am not saying it because she has me town
in amnesiac she called the entire scum team after like..day 2?
that said, giving her a townread that strong is not good.-
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why you got to be so bad at this broIn post 146, Nachomamma8 wrote:So I'll just do my job like a good kid and keep pushing Sven until ffery's ready to condemn him and we can throw a party.-
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yeah?In post 150, Nachomamma8 wrote:
You didn't ask me about my read. You didn't say you were unsure. You said she was a good player, and that OUR reads on her was too loose, not yours.In post 147, Svenskt Stål wrote:i get the "fucking with town reads" but i am just saying that i dont get the ffer=town after so few posts and so early.-
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with what? you are walking down the wrong path brosephIn post 152, Nachomamma8 wrote:
She's not a scum player. I know her better than you do. Give it up.In post 148, Svenskt Stål wrote:that said, giving her a townread that strong is not good.
Just a second ago you were sucking up to me, and now you're sucking up to ffery and discrediting me.In post 149, Svenskt Stål wrote:why you got to be so bad at this bro
Try harder.
and i know ffer well enough to not go inst town and disrespecting her scum game.
i am not sucking up to you, i think you and orc have done a good job at sounding town.-
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i dont know what any of this is refering toIn post 159, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
How ya doin svenIn post 157, Nachomamma8 wrote:
His thought process is weird, he doesn't have a voice of authority, hard for people to connect to. In this game, he was a scumread that orc, -->town leader<--, has played around with for a while.In post 155, ² wrote:Nacho, I was going to ask buldermar if he knows, but he's not around. Why is MS an easy lynch?
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well first of all i would never claim miller right of the bat if i was scum... second, yes killing ffer/buldemar via lynch would be a goal.In post 153, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Fery has always given me a "in development" tag vibe on all her reads.
Or maybe it's just me.
But I think if Fery's read is truly in development she doesn't like to voice them at all.
I mean, after calibration, "seems townish" is at least to me a decently solidified read
Unless someone in 2 wants to correct me
But yeah I don't want to lynch Sven before fery gets a better read on him
Hmm could this be scum Sven trying to whittle down the number of obvtown players?
FUDE I CAN'T POST-
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are you troubled?In post 164, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Tiphane is also reading as town in his own weird way.In post 158, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:How about a vote here
hahahahahahahahaIn post 160, Svenskt Stål wrote:i am not sucking up to you, i think you and orc have done a good job at sounding town.
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i have no idea wtf you are talking aboutIn post 163, ² wrote:
Now I'm not sure if you were disrespecting my town game or my scum game in Donner Party. Would feel pretty insulted if I hadn't earned it.In post 160, Svenskt Stål wrote:and i know ffer well enough to not go inst town and disrespecting her scum game.
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right. you are sounding very town. your vote is on town.In post 156, Nachomamma8 wrote:Especially because of this:In post 142, Svenskt Stål wrote:calling anyone "town as shit" or "x is town" after 6 pages is too loose, but i think you and orc have done a very good job so far.In post 149, Svenskt Stål wrote:why you got to be so bad at this bro
do the math.-
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i can actually type what ever I so chose, an i will continue to do so. Easiest way for me to play is to just say what comes to mind, that will hopefully show as transparant play on my part. i dont worry about sounding "wifoming", take what i say for what it is worth, either me lying or me telling the truth.In post 177, Mac wrote:
WIFOM yay.In post 165, Svenskt Stål wrote:
well first of all i would never claim miller right of the bat if i was scum... second, yes killing ffer/buldemar via lynch would be a goal.In post 153, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Fery has always given me a "in development" tag vibe on all her reads.
Or maybe it's just me.
But I think if Fery's read is truly in development she doesn't like to voice them at all.
I mean, after calibration, "seems townish" is at least to me a decently solidified read
Unless someone in 2 wants to correct me
But yeah I don't want to lynch Sven before fery gets a better read on him
Hmm could this be scum Sven trying to whittle down the number of obvtown players?
FUDE I CAN'T POST
stop this please. it doesn't help.
but i think the way you stated your post is towny, it shows genuine concern.-
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colonist aligned miller trackerIn post 192, Sajin wrote:
I will wait to hear it from him. Don't be answering questions directed at other people please.In post 191, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Miller Tracker, apparently. Would you like to take a position on that?In post 190, Sajin wrote:@Svenskt: What is your role name? Miller?-
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i just cant stand how bad you are.In post 189, Nachomamma8 wrote:kid, you crack quick.-
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yes, i am squishy. dont take advantage of me.In post 195, GuyInFreezer wrote:BRO - seems town
@Varsoon's 136 - ....
But I'm p confident at reading varsoon so I'll wait for him to post more.
@orc's 158 - not yet but there's a high chance my vote will end up there, especially after stuff like 168.
@sven's 162 - see the arrows?
@sven's 165 - WIFOM
@sven's 171 - is that post referencing Cabd?
Wow sven breaks easier than remembrance.-
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pretty sure i have nothing but the character name to give.In post 202, Sajin wrote:In post 194, Svenskt Stål wrote:
colonist aligned miller trackerIn post 192, Sajin wrote:
I will wait to hear it from him. Don't be answering questions directed at other people please.In post 191, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Miller Tracker, apparently. Would you like to take a position on that?In post 190, Sajin wrote:@Svenskt: What is your role name? Miller?
@Sven- So when you die, in your estimation, what will your death flip be exactly? You can leave character as [character] when you reply to this.In post 2, borkjerfkin wrote:Setup
This setup is based upon the game Xenoblade Chronicles. This link may be useful to you to determine context throughout the game.
[*]Flips will will be of the form [Character, Alignment, Role name]. This will be all you're given in the way of relevant information.
i told you my role as it is stated to me. minus the character name that preceeds it.-
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how do you know its bad? pretty sure i could still be lying.In post 198, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Because of one bad read on you?In post 196, Svenskt Stål wrote:i just cant stand how bad you are.
but yeah. i hate it when people point and say scum. i cant handle it. much better this way, i can go about my work.-
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you quoted the post that answers your question, or i need more information on what the fuck you want from meIn post 209, Sajin wrote:@Sven- Please try and format it for me. I quoted you the relevant part from the rules section.
@Guy in freezer- You have not seen my posts yet if you think that was a wall. Just wait for it.-
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you went back on me before that, why was that?In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?
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you are scummy.-
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oh in that case.In post 212, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I'm positive you're still lying, but I'm working from your perspective, where I have one "bad" read and a bunch of town reads that you mostly share.In post 208, Svenskt Stål wrote:how do you know its bad? pretty sure i could still be lying.
well it carries more weight with me since you are voting me.-
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thats kinda objectively bad on your part... alomst all of the shit i have posted is kind of towny for me.In post 218, Nachomamma8 wrote:
This was the first post in this thread I didn't hate.In post 216, Svenskt Stål wrote:
you went back on me before that, why was that?In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?
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you are scummy.-
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if i am scum i cant have the role i claim to have.In post 221, Varsoon wrote:
Honestly, I'll probably ignore the PR claim altogether when considering whether or not Sven is scum.In post 213, Nachomamma8 wrote:Varsoon, what did you think of Sven's claim?
To me, claiming a town PR is the same as someone just saying "Hey, I am town," if a bit more lame since it hinges on some sort of town sympathy for PRs or something.
Generally, revealing PRs to the scum isn't a cool idea.
I don't know what the miller-tracker does. Please tell me.
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Thanks, Sven.
That's a pretty damn convenient role to have if you're scum, and a shite one if you're town.
Regardless, I'm not going to think of you as miller-tracker, but as Sven, the maybe-town-guy.
i can see why people think it is convinient..i dont agree with that assessment-
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