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Post Post #21 (isolation #0) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:08 am

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i claim miller
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Post Post #22 (isolation #1) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:10 am

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In post 9, Nachomamma8 wrote:hi guys, I'll catch up on the thread in the morning.

catch up with what? you are on the first page and allready doing excuses about not being avaible?
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Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:18 am

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yeah i aint kidding. i am miller.

which also makes it impossible for me to be scum since i would have to explain down the road why i am not dead.

so... my scum plan must then involve the following

1. claim miller, hope people buy it
2. if people buy it, hope they dont question why i dont get nk´ed.


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Post Post #28 (isolation #3) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:21 am

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In post 26, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why would a miller ever be killed?
well, since i have claimed you have to make a decision, i am either miller town or scum.

if people belive me i will not get heat

scum kills people that get no heat

also i am very good at catching scum
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Post Post #31 (isolation #4) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:25 am

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In post 27, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why the actual fuck would scum NK a miller?
your logic involves scum hoping that the cop will investigate me and find guilty... which I, by claiming miller, have allready confirmed will happen.

there is 0 times out of 100 that a cop will get something else then guilty on me.

i am either scum lying, or miller telling the truth.

orc, i dont know what you mean by dealing in absolutes. i hate my role and if investigated i will die... so i thought i would insta claim

i can claim flavor too if that helps
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:26 am

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In post 29, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:oh yeah and for post 25

My vote is now serious


I mean, I don't mind the miller claim. But I do mind the feigned innocence of "oh deary me of course scum would never fakeclaim a miller!" You know why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Your grandmother knows why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Why would you be dishonest like that?

I mean, come on. We're good players here. Don't insult our intelligence.

your intelligence is abscent and if town you are nothing but noise.

sit down and take it slowly, i dont like being pushed against a wall.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #6) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:31 am

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In post 33, Nachomamma8 wrote:No, he's asking why scum would NK a miller because millers are shitty roles and never really "conftown" whether we believe you or not on the first day.

well sure, but thats day one.. "down the road" i was thinking abit further.

well, in amnesiac i think you wanted to kill ffer night 1 couse she was "obv town"... think it was you, my point is, my role does not really matter, if town decides that i am clear (which they shouldnt, just making a point) and they are correct, then scum will feel cornerd and forced to kill the "clear" person, regardless of him being mechanicly clear or not.

I just claimed because i would hate to have to explain myself later.

but i like your tone here.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:35 am

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In post 34, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 32, Svenskt Stål wrote:sit down and take it slowly, i dont like being pushed against a wall.
You don't like being pushed against a wall? You claimed miller and then claimed that you would never fakeclaim miller because then you would have to explain why you were alive or some shit. You shouldn't be surprised at this at all.
now your are planting words.

i never said i wouldnt, but its true, i would not.

your reactions are kinda expected but if you look objectively why would i do this as scum? in my eyes i have then limited myself in terms of "lifespan".

But i get what you are saying, all my logic can be used as scum as well.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #8) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:40 am

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In post 37, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 31, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 27, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why the actual fuck would scum NK a miller?
your logic involves scum hoping that the cop will investigate me and find guilty... which I, by claiming miller, have allready confirmed will happen.

there is 0 times out of 100 that a cop will get something else then guilty on me.

i am either scum lying, or miller telling the truth.

orc, i dont know what you mean by dealing in absolutes. i hate my role and if investigated i will die... so i thought i would insta claim

i can claim flavor too if that helps
Fuck what?

Why would millers ever be investigated after claim
true


My logic is that there is obviously a scum motivation behind a fakeclaim. And that is to ward off investigative results. Why haven't you been considering that?
because it is really short term, sooner or later i will have to explain why i am alive. i am a good scum, so there is no need for me to do this as scum in the begining


You dealt in absolutes with regards to how you think you would be perceived by town. It's retarded to assume that "oh yeah town will either think i'm town or think i'm scum. If they think i'm scum, i'm lynched. If they think i'm town, then it's suspicious when i get to endgame"
no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.


I mean, I don't even know where to start in explaining how that doesn't work.
In post 32, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 29, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:oh yeah and for post 25

My vote is now serious


I mean, I don't mind the miller claim. But I do mind the feigned innocence of "oh deary me of course scum would never fakeclaim a miller!" You know why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Your grandmother knows why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Why would you be dishonest like that?

I mean, come on. We're good players here. Don't insult our intelligence.

your intelligence is abscent and if town you are nothing but noise.

sit down and take it slowly, i dont like being pushed against a wall.
Out rolls the Svensults. Why don't you vote me?
you can have abscent intellect as town, I have seen it before.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #9) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:41 am

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In post 40, ² wrote:svenskt why no entrance gif?

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lol fuck me. thats scummy.

i was so caught up in my insta claim.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #10) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:43 am

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In post 46, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 45, GuyInFreezer wrote:I also see Sven as town at this moment.
Why is my read on Sven always not shared by people

Can you explain this

Because literally nothing he has said has been ringing town to me
why cant you learn from history... like other games we have played, and from that draw some sort of conclusion that will answer your question?
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Post Post #59 (isolation #11) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:45 am

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In post 47, Nachomamma8 wrote:Sven, it surprises me that your posting is so incredibly weak because I expected you to be someone to liked aggression, meaning you could handle a bit of heat. But now I see I have to treat you like a emotionally distressed newbie...

okay.

what in my posting is "weak" and why do you care if it is? agression comes when i find something worthy to persue,,, right now all my focus is in defence mode.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #12) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:48 am

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yeah feeling good about orc, want to feel good about nacho aswell.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #13) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:48 am

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In post 60, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 58, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Actually I was going to bring this up later but now seems like an apt time. If you wanted to give Sven space to get into his groove, why does it seem like you were trying to provoke him in 47?
I completely wanted to provoke him. Then he gave me a response that was far more meek than I was expecting regardless of alignment, so I backed the fuck off.
shouldnt meek equal scummy here?

and dont call me meek again.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #14) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:50 am

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In post 49, ² wrote:
In post 44, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 40, ² wrote:svenskt why no entrance gif?

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Too preoccupied with fabricating the fakeclaim.

Gut read on sven?

Pedit: Oh. >.>

Pedit: let me post
no, I'm leaning a little townish on svenskt.

- f

is this scum buddying up to the great svenskt?
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Post Post #71 (isolation #15) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:55 am

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In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 50, Svenskt Stål wrote:no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.
Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.

There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in

A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.

Why are you not considering maybe

C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^


Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
okay true.

But regarding outcome C, you will have to ask yourself "why?"

Right? I think I am a very capable scum player so why create all this noise arround me?

true this could be use from a scum point of view aswell...
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Post Post #74 (isolation #16) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:57 am

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In post 66, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 62, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 60, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 58, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Actually I was going to bring this up later but now seems like an apt time. If you wanted to give Sven space to get into his groove, why does it seem like you were trying to provoke him in 47?
I completely wanted to provoke him. Then he gave me a response that was far more meek than I was expecting regardless of alignment, so I backed the fuck off.
shouldnt meek equal scummy here?

and dont call me meek again.
Meek doesn't always equal scummy, sometimes it just equals meek.
And I call it how I see it. If you don't want to be interpreted as meek, don't be meek. Attack something. Defend yourself with more authority. If you're backed against the wall, start cackling like a mental patient.
no thank you. iu ahve been up against orc before, he brings out the worst in me and i will do everything to remain calm.

also people dont listen to me when i am in my dean winchester, king of the world mode.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #17) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:01 am

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In post 73, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Although I have to admit, if Sven is scum he's playing this beautifully with the thought narration and inner monologue and stuff.

see now i wish i was scum.

how would you have played it thou? wouldnt you have hated if you started getting attached to the game and someone investigates you and you will try to explain? i really did not want that. would you have been quiet?
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Post Post #84 (isolation #18) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:03 am

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In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.

and the reason for that would be?

couse it sounds like "if town does A, scum should do B"... which in turn sounds bad, since scum should try to duplicate town
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Post Post #96 (isolation #19) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:20 am

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i have a skype meeting
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Post Post #101 (isolation #20) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:29 am

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In post 98, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Sven
because i claim to be in a meeting?
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Post Post #104 (isolation #21) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:31 am

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i wanna vote cabd

no meeting ended
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Post Post #107 (isolation #22) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:34 am

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trying to find a post of someone sponging orc, it was about his a b c cases

cant find it, making me furious


@cabd, where did i state i couldnt post?
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Post Post #110 (isolation #23) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:39 am

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In post 69, Cabd wrote:
In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 50, Svenskt Stål wrote:no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.
Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.

There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in

A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.

Why are you not considering maybe

C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^


Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
Pretty much my thoughts as well. Forcing it into Black or White is really bad when Gray exists. I've also seen plenty of wolves claim miller and make it to a win in endgame, sooo...

VOTE: sven

here it is.

i dont like it because he is rewording orc´s thoughts just because, or so it feels to me. and i never said gray didnt exist, i just assumed that i would either be lynched or nk and not live to long.
In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town,
mafia would be staying far away
from this entire thing, IMO.
Let us whip ourselves
into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.
This is odd aswell and just feels like he is getting a chance to "put himself" inside town and distancing from threat.
it lacks natural flow... cant precise it more then that

VOTE: cabd
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Post Post #111 (isolation #24) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:41 am

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In post 109, Cabd wrote:
In post 107, Svenskt Stål wrote:trying to find a post of someone sponging orc, it was about his a b c cases

cant find it, making me furious


@cabd, where did i state i couldnt post?
In response to this:
In post 95, Nachomamma8 wrote:Sven, where did you go? I expected you to do things while I gave you space.
you said this:
In post 96, Svenskt Stål wrote:i have a skype meeting
Which would imply you were telling us you could not post.
it might imply it, but i was merely stating why i was abscent.

also it should be clear to you that i should be able to make small posts and not large thoughtout posts under these conditions
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Post Post #131 (isolation #25) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:37 am

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regarding my meta... i dont know where this discussion started but i have never claimed miller in my life nor do i think it should effect the judement on me.

orc, go to bed.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #26) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:37 am

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In post 130, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 125, borkjerfkin wrote:[2] Svenskt Stål (Cabd, Nachomamma8)
come on, you know you wanna
there's too many townies who have posted thus far in order for sven to be town
it's just a matter of numbers at this point

you dont make alot of sense but i guess thats your thing.

you are town too.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #27) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:41 am

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why is cabd town

this will all boil down to majiffy hydra being scum
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Post Post #137 (isolation #28) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:46 am

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@orc, no... we have to disagree there, also think you are too loose on you ffer read which i think should be null.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #29) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:47 am

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In post 136, Varsoon wrote:I'll claim town,
hey guys.

but are you?

thoughts on my miller claim?
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Post Post #142 (isolation #30) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:49 am

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you do realize that ffer is half decent at being scum right?

calling anyone "town as shit" or "x is town" after 6 pages is too loose, but i think you and orc have done a very good job so far.

i also think i have been towny as fuck.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #31) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:53 am

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ffer is right on me, that dont make her town.

she is just sucking up to the great svenskt until i decide that she isnt.

nacho wtf are you talking about

i get the "fucking with town reads" but i am just saying that i dont get the ffer=town after so few posts and so early.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #32) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:54 am

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In post 145, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 143, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I sheeped fery on her Sven read in bork game and it was the best decision of my life
I don't trust her reads that are still in development.
She didn't respond to you in a way that suggested her read was ready.

ffer is way above avarage on this site when it comes to making reads.

no i am not saying it because she has me town

in amnesiac she called the entire scum team after like..day 2?

that said, giving her a townread that strong is not good.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #33) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:55 am

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In post 146, Nachomamma8 wrote:So I'll just do my job like a good kid and keep pushing Sven until ffery's ready to condemn him and we can throw a party.
why you got to be so bad at this bro
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Post Post #151 (isolation #34) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:56 am

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In post 150, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 147, Svenskt Stål wrote:i get the "fucking with town reads" but i am just saying that i dont get the ffer=town after so few posts and so early.
You didn't ask me about my read. You didn't say you were unsure. You said she was a good player, and that OUR reads on her was too loose, not yours.
yeah?
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Post Post #160 (isolation #35) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:05 am

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In post 152, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 148, Svenskt Stål wrote:that said, giving her a townread that strong is not good.
She's not a scum player. I know her better than you do. Give it up.
In post 149, Svenskt Stål wrote:why you got to be so bad at this bro
Just a second ago you were sucking up to me, and now you're sucking up to ffery and discrediting me.
Try harder.
with what? you are walking down the wrong path broseph

and i know ffer well enough to not go inst town and disrespecting her scum game.

i am not sucking up to you, i think you and orc have done a good job at sounding town.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #36) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:06 am

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In post 159, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 157, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 155, ² wrote:Nacho, I was going to ask buldermar if he knows, but he's not around. Why is MS an easy lynch?

- f
His thought process is weird, he doesn't have a voice of authority, hard for people to connect to. In this game, he was a scumread that orc, -->town leader<--, has played around with for a while.
How ya doin sven
i dont know what any of this is refering to
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Post Post #165 (isolation #37) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:10 am

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In post 153, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Fery has always given me a "in development" tag vibe on all her reads.

Or maybe it's just me.

But I think if Fery's read is truly in development she doesn't like to voice them at all.

I mean, after calibration, "seems townish" is at least to me a decently solidified read

Unless someone in 2 wants to correct me

But yeah I don't want to lynch Sven before fery gets a better read on him


Hmm could this be scum Sven trying to whittle down the number of obvtown players?



FUDE I CAN'T POST
well first of all i would never claim miller right of the bat if i was scum... second, yes killing ffer/buldemar via lynch would be a goal.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #38) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:11 am

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In post 164, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 158, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:How about a vote here
Tiphane is also reading as town in his own weird way.
In post 160, Svenskt Stål wrote:i am not sucking up to you, i think you and orc have done a good job at sounding town.
hahahahahahahaha
ok buddy
are you troubled?
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Post Post #167 (isolation #39) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:11 am

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In post 163, ² wrote:
In post 160, Svenskt Stål wrote:and i know ffer well enough to not go inst town and disrespecting her scum game.
Now I'm not sure if you were disrespecting my town game or my scum game in Donner Party. Would feel pretty insulted if I hadn't earned it.

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i have no idea wtf you are talking about
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Post Post #170 (isolation #40) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:17 am

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2 = buldemar/fferyllt
bauty and the beast = majiffy/mollie
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Post Post #171 (isolation #41) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:18 am

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also i think thats a towny thought process by cabd and i will see if i can plant my vote elsewhere
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Post Post #172 (isolation #42) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:20 am

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VOTE: dntfckngcr
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Post Post #178 (isolation #43) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:24 am

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In post 156, Nachomamma8 wrote:Especially because of this:
In post 142, Svenskt Stål wrote:calling anyone "town as shit" or "x is town" after 6 pages is too loose, but i think you and orc have done a very good job so far.
In post 149, Svenskt Stål wrote:why you got to be so bad at this bro
right. you are sounding very town. your vote is on town.

do the math.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #44) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:28 am

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In post 177, Mac wrote:
In post 165, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 153, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Fery has always given me a "in development" tag vibe on all her reads.

Or maybe it's just me.

But I think if Fery's read is truly in development she doesn't like to voice them at all.

I mean, after calibration, "seems townish" is at least to me a decently solidified read

Unless someone in 2 wants to correct me

But yeah I don't want to lynch Sven before fery gets a better read on him


Hmm could this be scum Sven trying to whittle down the number of obvtown players?



FUDE I CAN'T POST
well first of all i would never claim miller right of the bat if i was scum... second, yes killing ffer/buldemar via lynch would be a goal.
WIFOM yay.

stop this please. it doesn't help.
i can actually type what ever I so chose, an i will continue to do so. Easiest way for me to play is to just say what comes to mind, that will hopefully show as transparant play on my part. i dont worry about sounding "wifoming", take what i say for what it is worth, either me lying or me telling the truth.

but i think the way you stated your post is towny, it shows genuine concern.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #45) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:29 am

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In post 182, ² wrote:svenskt, my read on you is slipping.

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awesome
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Post Post #186 (isolation #46) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:31 am

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i got miller, i played it like this, will make minimal effort from here on out. like legitly just avoid prod.

have fun.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #47) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:32 am

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actually i didnt get miller, i got miller tracker.

but what evs.
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Post Post #194 (isolation #48) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:44 am

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In post 192, Sajin wrote:
In post 191, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 190, Sajin wrote:@Svenskt: What is your role name? Miller?
Miller Tracker, apparently. Would you like to take a position on that?
I will wait to hear it from him. Don't be answering questions directed at other people please.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #49) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:47 am

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In post 189, Nachomamma8 wrote:kid, you crack quick.
i just cant stand how bad you are.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #50) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:47 am

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In post 195, GuyInFreezer wrote:BRO - seems town

@Varsoon's 136 - ....
But I'm p confident at reading varsoon so I'll wait for him to post more.

@orc's 158 - not yet but there's a high chance my vote will end up there, especially after stuff like 168.

@sven's 162 - see the arrows?

@sven's 165 - WIFOM

@sven's 171 - is that post referencing Cabd?

Wow sven breaks easier than remembrance.
yes, i am squishy. dont take advantage of me.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #51) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:59 am

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In post 202, Sajin wrote:
In post 194, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 192, Sajin wrote:
In post 191, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 190, Sajin wrote:@Svenskt: What is your role name? Miller?
Miller Tracker, apparently. Would you like to take a position on that?
I will wait to hear it from him. Don't be answering questions directed at other people please.
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This setup is based upon the game Xenoblade Chronicles. This link may be useful to you to determine context throughout the game.

[*]Flips will will be of the form [Character, Alignment, Role name]. This will be all you're given in the way of relevant information.
@Sven- So when you die, in your estimation, what will your death flip be exactly? You can leave character as [character] when you reply to this.
pretty sure i have nothing but the character name to give.

i told you my role as it is stated to me. minus the character name that preceeds it.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #52) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:02 am

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In post 198, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 196, Svenskt Stål wrote:i just cant stand how bad you are.
Because of one bad read on you?
how do you know its bad? pretty sure i could still be lying.

but yeah. i hate it when people point and say scum. i cant handle it. much better this way, i can go about my work.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #53) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:04 am

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In post 209, Sajin wrote:@Sven- Please try and format it for me. I quoted you the relevant part from the rules section.

@Guy in freezer- You have not seen my posts yet if you think that was a wall. Just wait for it.
you quoted the post that answers your question, or i need more information on what the fuck you want from me
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Post Post #215 (isolation #54) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:05 am

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varsson, i am, if investigated, found guilty,

i can also track people.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #55) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:06 am

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In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?

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you went back on me before that, why was that?

you are scummy.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #56) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:07 am

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In post 212, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 208, Svenskt Stål wrote:how do you know its bad? pretty sure i could still be lying.
I'm positive you're still lying, but I'm working from your perspective, where I have one "bad" read and a bunch of town reads that you mostly share.
oh in that case.

well it carries more weight with me since you are voting me.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #57) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:08 am

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In post 218, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 216, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?

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you went back on me before that, why was that?

you are scummy.
This was the first post in this thread I didn't hate.
thats kinda objectively bad on your part... alomst all of the shit i have posted is kind of towny for me.
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Post Post #227 (isolation #58) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:13 am

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In post 221, Varsoon wrote:
In post 213, Nachomamma8 wrote:Varsoon, what did you think of Sven's claim?
Honestly, I'll probably ignore the PR claim altogether when considering whether or not Sven is scum.
To me, claiming a town PR is the same as someone just saying "Hey, I am town," if a bit more lame since it hinges on some sort of town sympathy for PRs or something.
Generally, revealing PRs to the scum isn't a cool idea.
I don't know what the miller-tracker does. Please tell me.

P-EDIT:

Thanks, Sven.


That's a pretty damn convenient role to have if you're scum, and a shite one if you're town.
Regardless, I'm not going to think of you as miller-tracker, but as Sven, the maybe-town-guy.
if i am scum i cant have the role i claim to have.

i can see why people think it is convinient..i dont agree with that assessment
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Post Post #229 (isolation #59) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:14 am

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In post 225, ² wrote:
In post 216, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?

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you went back on me before that, why was that?

you are scummy.
dummy. your "cracking" is reminding me of town-svenskt in that game.

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i know that. i am saying that you are scummy anyway and i want to know why you went back on your town read on me.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #60) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:15 am

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In post 228, GuyInFreezer wrote:@V: Finished game is ok to link.

@N: cliffnote: everyone circlejerks until they lynch majiffy. Sven also broke early, claimed BP, and subbed out.
i am allergic to retardation.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #61) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:16 am

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why cant i see who is viewing the thread anymore?

since when did that change?
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Post Post #234 (isolation #62) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:19 am

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In post 232, Sajin wrote:@Sven- Ok lets try this again, Sven. If you are not investigated as colonist then what are you investigated as?
guilty.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #63) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:21 am

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In post 233, ² wrote:
In post 226, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 222, ² wrote:do you want cliff notes?
Yes please!
I'm still going to read it, though.
Majiffy sledged the hell out of svenskt on day 2. I had a town read on svenskt, and didn't back him up strongly through most of that. I thought him refuting Majiffy's interpretation of some of his posts would be a hell of a lot more powerful than it going through the filter of my interpretation. He role claimed kinda early and replaced out.

the parallels aren't strong, but I'm getting a similar vibe.
my god thats not how it happened.

you and orc sucked

majiffy made you unvote his scum sister

i just couldnt take more stupidity

majiffy couldnt sledge me if i was tied down.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #64) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:28 am

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In post 240, ² wrote:
In post 229, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 225, ² wrote:
In post 216, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?

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you went back on me before that, why was that?

you are scummy.
dummy. your "cracking" is reminding me of town-svenskt in that game.

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i know that. i am saying that you are scummy anyway and i want to know why you went back on your town read on me.
Had to do with how you were replying to Nacho at that point in the thread. Tone, mostly. Also that you're claiming to scum-read me, when you townread me in our last game with very few fferyllt-town-like posts to base that judgment on. Usually I tend to take scum-reads as a sign of healthy town paranoia. My current calibration suggested that something is off here.

Now I'm waffling.
yeah you are, wtf is this shit
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Post Post #243 (isolation #65) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:29 am

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In post 241, Varsoon wrote:
In post 239, GuyInFreezer wrote:Varsoon is town too.
I'm
always
town. And never any cool roles, like Monado-wielder.
you can have mine. both of them
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Post Post #244 (isolation #66) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:30 am

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ffer, "my tone.... at that time"

gtfo.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #67) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:33 am

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there are no mixed signals

i get shit role

i claim said role

thread goes apeshit out of orbit mental basket case

i adjust and add more and threaten to not give a shit

heat dies



aaaaaaaand now it will start again
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Post Post #249 (isolation #68) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:33 am

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In post 246, GuyInFreezer wrote:Both of your roles?

VOTE: Sven

miller....tracker......
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Post Post #250 (isolation #69) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:34 am

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In post 247, Varsoon wrote:
In post 243, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 241, Varsoon wrote:
In post 239, GuyInFreezer wrote:Varsoon is town too.
I'm
always
town. And never any cool roles, like Monado-wielder.
you can have mine. both of them

I bet your character is someone like Mumkhar or Dickson.

its a girl
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Post Post #254 (isolation #70) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:37 am

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In post 251, GuyInFreezer wrote:How is miller tracker two roles

P-Edit: I got a girl too.
well it usually is the case... you are a miller, or you are a tracker.
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Post Post #258 (isolation #71) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:41 am

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In post 252, Varsoon wrote:Sven, do you think there's scum pushing on your wagon?
If so, who?
i think nacho is town, very diffrent from the amnesiac game where we both scummed.'

i think pushing me is kinda towny overall... since scum knows i am telling the truth they will have an easier time seeing my logic, town will just go "WIFOOOOM, KILLL IT WITH FIRE".

i usually work backwards anyway, find town, limit the pool of where to find scum.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #72) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:42 am

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In post 257, GuyInFreezer wrote:@Mac: Then that's one role, not two.
Unless other ppl accepts "miller tracker" is two roles, I firmly believe that it's a scumslip.
wow.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #73) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:52 am

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In post 264, GuyInFreezer wrote:Hey nacho what do you think of sven mentioning two roles?
I need a different view because I think sven slipped up and trying to get out of it.

x said he wanted some cool role

i have two

i am miller

i am tracker
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Post Post #271 (isolation #74) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:54 am

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In post 261, Varsoon wrote:@Sven:
Ah, who do you think is town, so far?

@GIF:
I could see where he would understand miller-tracker as two roles.
253 is too compelling, though.

I really like Sven's claim more and more now. It feels like a litmus test for town/scum.
nacho and orc are town
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Post Post #336 (isolation #75) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:59 am

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i do, i try my darnest to limit myself thou
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Post Post #342 (isolation #76) » Tue May 21, 2013 11:31 am

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i think i have done awesomely

i am almost lock clear
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Post Post #692 (isolation #77) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:18 pm

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and they calll me a spammer

VOTE: ghostlin
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Post Post #695 (isolation #78) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:21 pm

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In post 588, Ghostlin wrote:I got on maybe an hour ago, and I'm up to page 5. I'm trying to catch up, but here are my notes.

TD's #52, Miller post or not withstanding was probably the dumbest/opportunist post of this game. If everyone clears an early claiming miller as innocent in every game and it's known site meta, scum will catch on and adapt. It's what scum -does-. Voting Nacho because Nacho pressured Sven is counter-intuitive. It needs to be checked.

Orc's #64 shows he actually thought about what would actually happen, particularly if Sven is a weak player.

Sven #71. I hate WIFOM and you should too. Having one scum in front often can allow other scums to hide. Having an alibi of 'I'm a Miller, don't waste your time investigating/lynching me' is also a possible play, particularly if you bother looking townie.

Cabd #76. Wrong answer. Scum would probably monopolize the confusion or even risk lynching a scum buddy for free Town points.

Nacho #89, Cabd did pull a stance, but his conjecture's wrong. It also clears him.

TD #99, WHY IS NO ONE CALLING TD ABOUT HIS REMOVING HIS VOTE FROM NACHO?

GIF #100 I retract statement on #99.

Nacho #113, his logic is horrible, but that doesn't mean he's scum. By the way, TD, how you feel about that?

BRO #114: Generally, yes, Miller claims are town. The problem with this post is the logic almost goes back and forth. Not entirely fencesitting, but..

That's it for these sets of pages. I'll try to super fast read from here on out.
In post 599, Ghostlin wrote:Up to Page 10:
Var #136: That usually means there's a 50/50 chance you ain't town
Sven #139: Why would you ask the first question?
Orc #141: Yes. I will lynch half a dozen reaction test guy with you too. I fucking hate reaction tests.
Sven #149: If you've ever played with Nacho he's not acutally 'being bad at this' right now.
Orc #158: GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
Mac #161: This is true of almost every claim. If you're townie, you get killed. It's why Townie's can't afford to let themselves die. Why did you feel the need to post this?
TD #168: Someone asked you a question. Please answer the question. Plus, why did you feel the need to post this?
Mac #177: WIFOM is bad, but you not giving any sort of read is more bad. (Badder?)
Mac #179: You going to be this lazy during the game? Let me know know so I can vote you.
Fuck it.

Vote: Mac


\Sven, 187: WHY WOULD YOU FULLCLAIM NOW?
Mac, 188: ....Yeah, I still like my vote on you.
Sajin, 190: Was this an RVS or a serious vote?
Andrus, 199: GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
AJ, 201: The bad: You bothered to do setup speculation in a Large Theme. The good: The TD vote isn't bad if albeit predictable.
Sajin, 202: Seeing this is not a bastard, what's the use of this question?
Varsoon, 210: I don't like this post. I think it's the whole 'gee, it'll be hard to find scum' and the 'flipping based on information' bits.
Sajin, 232: I don't think you understand what the word 'Miller' means...
GIF, 239: Not sold on that.
GIF, 246: *Groans. Expects some sort of labyrinthine reasoning involving a scum slip, or simply not reading the thread.*
because of these catch up reads.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #79) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:24 pm

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i would be suprised if varsoon was scum

i would be very suprised if orc was scum

so can we shift focus.
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Post Post #704 (isolation #80) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:27 pm

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beauty and the beast, start signing your post.
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Post Post #706 (isolation #81) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:29 pm

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In post 702, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 701, Svenskt Stål wrote:i would be suprised if varsoon was scum

i would be very suprised if orc was scum

so can we shift focus.
Do you see his explanation for the sheeping Aj remark

"I was trying to get a reaction"

and yet he doesn't bring it up until now?

Like

hello?
i remember that from somewhere else.

i also remember you promising to vote him if he did it this game, so i guess its okay.
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Post Post #707 (isolation #82) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:30 pm

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In post 703, Mac wrote:
In post 701, Svenskt Stål wrote:i would be suprised if varsoon was scum

i would be very suprised if orc was scum

so can we shift focus.
what part of ghost's catchup did you not like?
the superficial structure, the easy reads allready stated not contrubuting to anything

easy for scum to make
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Post Post #708 (isolation #83) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:32 pm

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In post 705, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Oh yeah Mac is town

Sven how do you not tell them apart?
i dont want to haave to tell them apart, they should sign their fucking posts.
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Post Post #710 (isolation #84) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:34 pm

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i think the fact that varsoon goes up against you speaks in his favor.
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Post Post #711 (isolation #85) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:35 pm

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without having zero knowledge of his case lol
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Post Post #715 (isolation #86) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:38 pm

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varsoon, ghostlin is a good candidate for what? lynch? I am voting him so that should answer your question

edit, wtf varsoon
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Post Post #718 (isolation #87) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:40 pm

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no i dont know, since he was really fucking town on page 5... so why not go after targets that doesnt seem to be town.

orc, i will have to read up, i havent yet.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #88) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:43 pm

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In post 719, Varsoon wrote:
In post 715, Svenskt Stål wrote:varsoon, ghostlin is a good candidate for what? lynch? I am voting him so that should answer your question

edit, wtf varsoon

I'm a madman.


Honestly, I've got to make plays so that my wildcard reads can be put in scum or town buckets.


I think that ghost could be a good vote. Do you think our vote pressure would drive ghost to respond in interesting ways?
VOTE: Ghostlin
"do i think our vote pressure would drive ghost to respond in interesting ways?"

you sound like a robot and you sound very fake.
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Post Post #777 (isolation #89) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:45 am

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aj you are not epic

neither me nor orc is scum
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Post Post #924 (isolation #90) » Wed May 22, 2013 7:13 am

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so i am never reading pages 9-37 except skimming

jfc this game moves fast

also, if scum wins this then i will eat my hat.

just keep this up for days and scum wont be able to, also.. nacho+orc+2+batb seems town so gl hf

happy wifom attack
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Post Post #925 (isolation #91) » Wed May 22, 2013 7:13 am

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and now i am gonna sleep. i trust this scummy popin will be discussed extencively

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