Royal Family Mafia - Game Over!

[Ether]

vote: Mariyta

Queen

Whapsalot, eh?

Anyway. STD--my microphone, please.

Ahem. Test. Cough.

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah.
So it's random voting time
And I

had

promised a song:
Someone's slandering me
And got my gender wrong!
IH, Bogre, don't you see?
There's no need for those votes on me!
Oh!

I would like a few scantily-clad back-up dancers. Preferably male.

(Incidentally, I'm typing this from backstage of the school play during the intermission. My parents kind of took my home Internet away until I typed something for school.)

[Ether]

Jelly, STD and Glork shall receive nice fruit baskets.

I dislike the "But it's the hot new wagon!" style of thinking, but not enough to not humor Luckay. TSS, what do you think of those implications of his?

IH, what

are

you trying to say in post 71? "Luckay, I think you're implying a power role to protect Canuckle because you're scumbuddies. Canuckle, I think you're scumbuddies with Luckay and trying to distance yourself even though Luckay's clearly doing the exact opposite. Luckay, I think you're getting ready to bus Canuckle now even though you protected him only a few posts before." I don't understand your train of thought at all; please articulate.

unvote; vote: IH

.

[Ether]

Well, at least we're back up
For a couple of hours,
So of course I have a need to sing
I'm blissed out to be back
The withdrawl was painful
At some point, we

must

dethrone the King!
Still, no longer do we have to wait
Are we all okay?
Are our bearings straight?

Luckay, "singers" such as myself get a lot of requests to be masons, I'm afraid. :P There's a waiting list I'll need to check first.

Although I of course whole-heartedly agree with your second assumption, your strategy confuses me. What

are

you trying to do? Why not try to find scum based on the nature of the attacks, instead of who they're on? Or are you just looking for people you think are town for now for its own sake?

Canuckle, if you're going to complain, please contribute while you're at it.

Then, IH, what are you figuring from points 3 and 4? Your suspicion is odd, considering that Luckay does this in other games, too, including one that you yourself are playing in.

I'm not sure I understand why Ether and LuckayLuck are claiming others to be town so early in the game.

I'm what?

[Ether]

Not fishing.

3.@LuckayLuck:How can someone have a straight face in a game of online Mafia? Besides, your defense wasn't that great IMO, because I largely do not believe in Townie tells.
Also, it could be noted that you have been protecting Canuckle.

4.@Canuckle:Hmm, I'm not sure about you're theory. I'm wanting to think that you're trying to distance yourself from LuckayLuck.

Wait--oops. I was still thinking implied power role when I first asked about that. Viewing Luckay's crazy mystical defenses as just defenses in the end and writing off #5 as sarcastic makes sense after all.

unvote; vote: Canuckle

Any point I make about it connecting these two would be pure wifomm which is why I won't.

Hmm?

But I do agree that Luckay's strategy seems--well, I'm not certain what it actually is and how far in the game he intends to go by it, so it's hard to say. Luckay, I too would like to read a few finished games where you made such predictions.

[Ether]

Canuckle, that looked more like cryptic platitude than something I could understand. Are there individuals you have an opinion on?

Luckay, on Day 1 of that game was a post where you Excel'd everyone and what you thought of them. Here were your towniest at that point, and what they turned out to be.

Chuckleslovakian: scum
Durron597: town
Nicholasp27: scum
OurHouse: town
Sighing: town
Xorbie: technically neutral, but if he won, the town and scum had to flip a coin for the win
Zurvan: town

There were 28 players in total, 8 of whom were scum and 2 of whom were neutrals working in cahoots. 2 of the scum were odd cases--one could be switched to town when the neutrals felt like it and the other started out believing it was town--so let's ignore those and the neutrals and just say that the proportions were 6 scum in 24 people. One fourth.

Luckay, one third of the people on your town list were scum.

[Ether]

It's the tragedy blues, people
Tragedy, tragedy
The night goes on and on and on
I'm decent at sports, because I am tall
But I don't like being hit with a basketball
The hit to my eye hurt my vision, you see
So all of your posts look extremely 2-D
It's the tragedy blues, people
Tragedy, tragedy
The night goes on and on and on
So I'm sitting in ScumChat (though no one's a talker)
And it seems ShadowLurker's turned into a stalker
He knows my name; I'm rather vexed
He'll find my baby pictures next
It's the tragedy blues, people
Tragedy, tragedy
The night goes on and on and on
So my Net went down a few minutes ago
I'd

thought

that it was getting slow
It just might fix itself--just might
So I wrote this without any rhyming site
It's the tragedy blues, people
Tragedy, tragedy
The night goes on and on and on

I win.

Canuckle, I don't like the post 110 response. Other people had accused IH and TSS of fishing first; you followed these other people, but IH and TSS certainly aren't the only people who fit the definition you gave. These other people didn't fish by the standard definition, and thus hadn't already been accused of it. I hope I'm among those people, in fact. Anyway--it's just another bandwagon.

It seems to me that you are the only one during this first day who is drawing any ire or suspicion.

Is that from you, or the general public?

(Incidentally, can you not quote what you aren't responding to? The extra stuff just gets in the way. ^_^;)

This stuff makes Luckay's adamance over Canuckle's towniness

really

annoying to me. Not scummy--and I disapprove of the Luckay wagon--just annoying. Because of that adamance, I'll move to the Twito wagon--

vote: Twito

.

I don't remember the exact rationale for the people on Luckay: the gist was some paranoid people; some who just thought a vote on someone insane was as good as any. Actually declaring him

scum

for his quirked behavior is a ridiculous stretch.

I don't know much about Twito, and he's not so new; research time at some point, I suppose.

My first game with him.

Please link.

[Ether]

By the way, if I die, and I'm a seer, I peeked Canucklehead17. Canuckle is a townie.

This stuff makes Luckay's adamance over Canuckle's towniness

really

annoying to me.

Canuckle, someone being wrong isn't someone being scum, and therefore it's not a reason to "knock someone off." Furthermore, if Luckay dies and doesn't come up as something investigative, you'll probably want to hope for a distraction.

If I can't get rid of LL and his headhurting posting style I better just agree with it and follow him like a god.

I don't understand why so many people seem to blindly follow LuckayLuck.

Er...Twito? Mariyta? When Twito posted, we were

all

telling Luckay how useless his strategy was; even by Mariyta's post, there were only Canuckle and Twito listening to him (and Canuckle insists "this one time," and Twito just wants to be idiotic). Am I missing something? Where are the so many people following Luckay like a god, and why aren't their bandwagons bigger?

Unvote, Vote:Twito

It's a better wagon than LL

unvote:Twito
Vote:LL

We may as well lynch someone who's been posting a lot, that way we find out if certain people are full of it.

What changed? And why the sudden desire to lynch?

unvote; vote: Jack

(No Luckay-following conspiracies here, I promise. Incidentally, that seems to be my first

proper

unvote-revote. Joy.)

Ether does not place conventional votes
Voted Canuckle, sans "headseventeen"
Never unvoted to move onto Twito
Sorry, Ibelly! You know what I mean.

[Ether]

I should, y'know, post.

I think much of what Canuckle has said is scummy, and have mostly held off because Luckay's whole "if I'm the seer" thing distressed me. And if memory serves, that's kind of null now.

But...this

new

reference to Canuckle's newbness goes against that--in fact, I'm taking this in the exact opposite way from Cogito. The "hints" question: if newbscum honestly believed that the mod was making a hint, would it truly go out of its way to bring the topic up? (Hints are a foreign concept to me--the instance of them here sums up all my familiarity with them.) Canuckle, how common are these hints where you come from?

Regarding Luckay, his town-finding record isn't great. Post 108, remember? Was MoS being anywhere near serious?

I will probably unvote Jack once he explains that Twito/Luckay discrepency; it's sort of annoying that he still hasn't.

(IRT? Trust STD?
Picture our thousandth pro-town characters
Picture our thousandth newbie game,
Picture, now, my thousandth endgame hammer,
See the thousandth ending--just the same,
STD,
A thousand games; I'd never adjust
There'd never be a hint of trust
Not in a thousand futures...
Not for STD...)

(That's not relevant to this game. 'Course, if I think STD's town, I might have to bodysnatch him for the win. ^_^;)

[Ether]

Ether should not ignore the needs of her games. Ether should not lurk or be forgetful or whatever the hell her excuse is. Bad, bad Ether.

Anyway,

unvote

. Jack, I had remembered your Twito vote in particular because my own reasoning basically came down to that at the time.

Zindaras points out that IH did the same, and looking through his posts, I can go for that.

vote: IH

Plus, more recently:

Why do you want everyone to post who they think is most suspicious?

If you're so concerned when Huck asks, why did you

just

answer Pooky's question? And OMGUS FoS Jack?

I couldn't care less about his random vote on me,

Luckay

, but Bogre's being useless. That's kind of it. Looking through his filtered posts in other games--both as town

and

scum--the day <3s and the like here are a major stretch. I don't know what to make of that, but the crazy people here are just cancelling themselves out for me.

Pooky: As an underage female living on the East Coast, I resent this. (Actually, I rather like it, because it's sparked some things I can comment on: I just don't really see a point to personally applying. I can be some helpful NPC if it comes up, of course. I can, like, compose a nice epic if you're helpful.)

6. Supervillain is misunderstood. He is a townie.

^_^

*proxies opinion to Lackay Luck*

*votes: Jack*

***MoS has made no posts in between

7)If you had the power of "King"(similar to Kingmaker games, the King is the only voter and the final decider of the lynch) who would you choose to lynch at this moment?

Jack

Someone isn't paying attention. >=(

You consider the question of "who would you lynch, right now, if the decision were yours and yours alone?" a time waster?

If you feel this way strongly enough to yell at Maz, why not answer Pooky's question while you're at it?

[Ether]

...

Seriously, people,
Canuckle claimed COP
Seriously, people,
This wagon should STOP.
I do see the deadline
But we needn't put away the noose
There are other candidates
But a cop? No excuse!

Jack? Other people? Off. Personally, I'm cool with an IHlynch. I wouldn't

mind

a Twitolynch, but I'd much prefer IH. There's one more option here.

Guys

this game is going to last a long time

plus its 12 people to lynch.

so we obviously need some unity in order to get anything done.

I really don't see how this will accomplish consensus and save us time. If everyone provided a list of their top two/three scum, that might narrow it down to a few suspects that most people have on their list, rather than the broad group we'll get if everyone just puts out one name.

unvote, vote: HackerHuck

Town shouldn't really be concerned about "saving time", since the longer the days are with reasonable activity, the better. Only scum want to hurry along the game, so they can rush people into decisions that aren't beneficial to the town.

MoS has displayed the same kind of double-standard I've disliked from IH, really.

[Ether]

I'm... well always scum to you,

That

is

a factor. :P As I've already said, I disapprove of your old attack on Huck and Jack, which

blatantly

misrepresented their posts. Plus, there was the whole jump from Luckay to Twito.

Jack, I do believe that Canuckle is indeed a courier, and see no reason that such flavor would not point to an investigative role. Not necessarily a

sane

investigative role, but I do think Canuckle is pro-town.

[Ether]

Um, trying a bit hard to lay down an out for your scum buddy here, aren't you? Speculation on his sanity is fairly worthless at this point in time.

I agree that further speculation on cop sanity in this game would not be helpful. I posted for the sole purpose of getting Jack off of Canuckle, and not for the reason you're implying.

I will admit that Jack's lack of an instant "Oh, shit! unvote" isn't really furthering my assumptions.

STD, weren't you yourself previously all "Hey, everyone! Canuckle and IH are scum!" in large text? More recently, he's been hypocritical and misrepresentative over the TWMofW business as a basis to attack Jack and HackerHuck. Take a look. Pages 18 through 20, especially the latter two.

[Ether]

I mistyped that--it's TWMo

t

W. Team Wise Men of the West. You know, Pooky's group. You applied to join it.

Maybe I should have kept y'all guessing, though.

[Ether]

Ether sighs dramatically and gives Thok a smack with her microphone.

Gah! I have said this all before
Just look some pages back
Much logic, IH did ignore
To fling a crap attack!
He then went further on his limb
Instead of backing down!
How could y'all not have noticed him?
IH just isn't town!
I'm getting awful déjà-vu
I'd so love to proceed
I know a lynch needs more of you:
Can't more of you just

read

?

That last bit is what gets me. I'm willing to vote Twito if his wagon appears to be the best real possibility--his Luckay shenanigans don't amuse me, either--but it'd be nice if all y'all would

acknowledge

pages 19 and 20 at some point before the deadline.

[Ether]

Ether raises her microphone at TheEye threateningly.

I read Huck's alternative as an example, considering how he disparaged the alliance idea. Even if it wasn't? People

are

gonna post their suspicions, and they

should

, and they're filthy lurkers if they

don't

. I still view your statement as a hypocritical excuse to launch an attack.

Not only that, Hackerhuck and Jack both refused to answer the questions, but supported everyone listing who their top 2 suspects were.

I'm not sure what the first part is supposed to mean, unless you were concerned by their failure to join TWMotW. I

am

sure that that statement drastically misrepresented Jack's statements in order to OMGUS him.

What Jack had said so far was:

Well...we could just, you know,

VOTE

for people.

This is ridiculous. People's popular opinion is evident from the votes and posts so far, and from pookies list which you don't seem to have any objections to. You've been mixing it up like this all game, it's possible you're looking for scum but it seems to me you're scum trying to muddle things up.

There is no evidence of him supporting Huck's idea.

Explain.

[Ether]

Tomorrow's New Years party will be awesome
Even though I am Jewish
Wait, that was Christmas
And it

is

tomorrow
I am slightly drunk
(Not very, but it's 1 in the morning)
Rhymes are for wimps and sober people
It's not like you're checking this stanza
It's not like you care whether this rhymes
It's not like I've

always

loved you, man!
(hiccup)

Happy New Year, yo.

Actually, I read Huck's post as, "This idea is stupid. Here are some improvements." Personally, I agree that the alliance was only good for the discussion it sparked. The suspicions list is superfluous; I fail to see what opportunity the suspicions list gives that reading a few posts by different people wouldn't.

He's not trying to get a handle on people's views IMO

A convenient breeze through other's posts, and your suspicion changes.

Your attack has changed.

he's trying to get a lynching wagon going.

Guys

this game is going to last a long time

plus its 12 people to lynch.

so we obviously need some unity in order to get anything done.

Your attack is hypocritical.

If I said anything about Jack and this, it would only be because he had supported HackerHuck's idea.

Where?

[Ether]

unvote; vote: Twito

I believe that makes six votes on Twito. Seven to lynch at deadline.

[Ether]

in my role, it says to be careful that I am not caught during the night, and both nights, it has said that I managed to elude being caught for that night.

The Jail is occupied by LuckayLuck

Huh. I'd have thought that

that

was what would happen if someone were "caught," but Luckay doesn't have any visible penalties. Eh.

EBWOP:If you come up town, a canuckle lynch is sure to follow.

NO!

1-2 mislynches, remember? Can we

please

lynch IH today? Not Jack? I strongly believe that Jack, like Canuckle, is pro-town but being dangerously...well,

silly

. But that's not the point.

vote: IH

;

he's

still scum. Seriously. Kill him.

[Ether]

Ether sighs dramatically.

Finally.

So, "caught and instantly killed" is the wording? Yeah, I'd worry more about the cause than the effect. A "stay up watching for cops" option for the mafia is tacky, and I don't believe it. (No one say just yet if his role has a similar warning, of course; it means claiming "not vanilla" and "vulnerable.") Maybe you're like a hider in that if you and the mafia target the same person, you die. Considering that, my answer to Maz's suggestion is "no."

the mafia is scared of the doctor

Pretty sure this is the case.

Canuckle, aside from the mislynch business, IH launched a bullshit attack on HackerHuck and Jack yesterday that left a very bad taste in my mouth. And the early flipflop from Luckay to Twito. (Mafia presumably don't know who the traitor is, so that's not really a point in his favor, either.)

(I can believe that IH

did

misread Canuckle's post, but I still think he's scum. Combined with Canuckle's believable flavor, the fact that

IH

would support a 1-2 based on a bad cop result makes me more inclined to think what I always did: we could well have one or more cops with sanity issues.)

Canuckle, Jack, please step away from each other's throats. We have a common enemy here!

While I can't say that I believe IH for the moment, I don't think he's the best lynch for today....However LuckayLuck does make a strong statement against him & I anticipate the response from IH.

I don't like this post. Please elaborate.

[Ether]

It seems I've lost my bearings
No posts for one whole week!
Since Morning Two, no songs anew
I guess I'd better speak.
Yes, Arafax is scummy
Of your vote, I approve
Still, I advise, check wagon-size
Perhaps that vote should move?
I'll help you out tomorrow,
But, 'Dragons, don't you see?
"1-2 mislynch!" These voters inch
To join Majority.
Please humor us, and help us,
It's very worth your vote
IH is scum;

already

some
Are clawing at his throat.

(Yes, "more people look willing to vote IH" is the crux of my argument. I could easily see an IH/Arafax scumpair, and would be in no way averse to lynching the latter instead.)

[Ether]

'Kay, that works.

unvote; vote: Arafax

Zindaras, assuming that IH is scum, Arafax would be a quite logical scumbuddy. Look at post 709. Look at his eagerness to get back onto the Jackwagon the instant I call him on this, when the Jackwagon appears to be through anyway and the IHwagon is gaining ground. He can't provide a clear reason why, and he's flailing for an excuse.

Claimed vanilla, too. Join us; the wagon's cool and it'll be another strike against IH tomorrow if Arafax is scum. ^_^

[Ether]

Woah. I was wondering if I should elaborate on what was wrong with post 709 and all of that, but the wagon's going fast anyway.

Damn

this feels easy.

Well, for tomorrow. Canuckle, I know what conclusion I drew from 709 (and 726). You do realize what that conclusion hinges on, right?

[Ether]

Together, we could kill IH
That's gone a tad awry
I know where my own vote will be,
But, did you have to die?
Dammit, Zindie!
Whatever-aligned
I'm sure I'll miss having
Our votes intertwined.
Dammit, Zindie!
I read what's written
But

what kind of bastard

Would kill a kitten?
Dammit, Zindie!

Dammit!

Did someone protect me, target me, do something else to me?

Don't fish.

My apologies to thee if I may have disrupted thy workings, Dear Canuckle.

Meh.

vote: IH

. Scum without Arafax, then.

STD, do you need a hug, an exorcism, a Wookie-translator or some combination of the three?

[Ether]

.....So I'm going to get lynched without anyone even asking Maz what he did last night?

IH, you're scum: we know
No further need to fish
'Cause Maz was cleared a day ago
(Can't he just hold his tongue? I

wish

.)
If Maz spells out his role,
I just hope there's some gain
'Cause outing him was not the goal
We don't need cops and doctors slain.
(I know, it's kinda late
This song is mostly rant
But though it's quite bereft of weight
Can

you

leave stress untyped? I can't*.)

Ether hugs STD, mercifully cutting off some of his oxygen. Not fatally, though.

*This is a lie; of course I can. I'm just a biiiiiiiiit too into this.

[Ether]

watch Jack, STD

Throw hackerhuck in there

Why?

[Ether]

That, combined with your apparent skill at figuring out when he's scum(see IH's sig), makes me very content with my vote.

Heh, I'm not the best authority to appeal to here. Just a heads up.

= | I'm feeling worse and worse about Canuckle. His has a failed investigation, and investigated someone all but safe because he was afraid of being killed.... unless he can hide, then I don't know...

Maz prevented his investigation. Canuckle/Maz as a scumpair?

We're still not sure what would actually happen with Canuckle if he tried to investigate scum.

Yeah. Stupid Maz. >=(

From his uber defense of Twito day 1.

What Jack said. (Tee-hee, "Lost Prince.") Presumably, the scum didn't even realize what they were bandwagoning.

Come to think of it, you've displayed a double standard between Twito's in-character behavior and Cogito's in-character behavior. Heh, maybe I

could

get on this--

--But I'd

rather

just stay on IH. This is frustrating.

[Ether]

Limited access.

Also,

unvote; vote: Mastermind of Sin

[Ether]

So...reread?

EBWOP:MoS,

TSS

, Nightson, Bogre

By the way, I think that this means that TheEye is probably town if IH is scum.

[Ether]

Why is MoS still alive? Are we extending the day for discussion? I guess I can live with that, sort of.

Ether impatiently taps her mousepad. Or her microphone. Yay, roleplaying.

What if I'm town?

Then TheEye would be some obscure lurker who really needs to participate. 'Cept, one whose alignment I wouldn't be able to really draw conclusions about.

How many sucm do you think are in this game Ether?

First, why do you ask?

I'm looking forward to seeing the results of all the re-reads, if they happen.

Cu ef ti. Speaking of which, you vanished for a month and jumped back into the game pretty uneventfully. Are you up to speed?

[Ether]

(I've really been neglecting this game.)

Yeah.

So, I'm back. I don't think I'd mind a Thoklynch especially. Better than Pooky's last two picks. I want Thok's opinions of Cogito, Jack, MoS, Nightson and Day 2. (I am aware of his...meh, I'm not referring back to the V/LA thread, some kind of condition; I'm patient, sympathetic and probably a bit run-on-sentence-happy. Stupid "being awake for over 24 hours straight due to time zone swaps" factor.)

[Ether]

Gyah.

Have little to no read on lurkerNightson. Why mention him and not other lurker types (Fritzler, Bogre, TEOM)?

Mostly 'cause Pooky did and I wanted to throw in a few red herrings to see if you'd make an inconsistency that, looking back, doesn't really work out as well as I thought it would from memory. (If the memory was the truth, your Cogito comment would have tripped the wire, though it'd have been slightly blunted by the "PJ said so" card. Oh, well.)

OK, a look over things makes me want to reconsider the IH wagon; I'll go with an

unvote, vote MOS

(

unvote; vote: IH

) What things?

I don't really buy your old IHvote, considering the unvote just now--the wagon was clearly gaining momentum by then, and I wouldn't be surprised if it took some nighttalking to give that the 'all clear'--and I am absolutely

baffled

by your behavior around me. What do you think about my relation to IH, especially when you bring Arafax, Cogito and yourself into play? What possessed you, then, to get onto--of all

possible

wagons--the one which

I

started?

(I'm still trying to determine where Cogito stands in this. If Thok/IH is correct, I think I'll start being nicer to MoS for at least a bit.)

Also Ether, is there a reason you've stopped rhyming?

With eleven songs down, I'll already be free to make shots at fulfilling my win condition as early as tonight. Wish me luck?

(I wish you'd timed that question so I could respond on April Fools; actually, I'm just being lazy. I'll go back to singing if people, especially STD, ask me to continue. Incidentally, you've made my day. (*hug*))

Hackerhuck, I believe the original case was trying to setup a 1-2 mislynch because I thought Canuckle had investigated Jack, and I said something along the lines of "After we lynch Jack, if he comes up innocent, we can lynch Canuckle"

It was

not

. I thoroughly believe that you did not immediately realize who Canuckle investigated, and believe that you are scum anyway.

Dunno if I believe Twito's 662, where he implies that he hadn't actually read his role earlier. He did that once in a newbie game, though that started after Royal Family. Either way, I doubt that the scum knew who he was. I believe it was IH (anti-STD) and TSS (anti-Jack) who attacked his defenders? Silly.

[Ether]

especially concerning Canuckle. I am doubting his claim more and more.

a Jack lynch would be the most preferable

So! Is someone going to remind me what the case on Jack was?

I think that his points against Fritzler have some merit as well.

o.

O

Dude. I could perfectly understand, say, "Twito didn't bring Fritzler up aside from that" ('cept that then you'd have to explain the difference between Fritzler and other such people), but a case based on a traitor being making friendly points that

weren't related to actual gameplay

is bullshit. Luckay starts the case, admits that it's light: you hop on (renouncing your attack on Luckay, which no one particularly liked). Nothing else.

Deadline in mind, a Fritzlynch today is unlikely and an IHlynch is pretty secure. I'm rather confused about this, but it doesn't change his Luckay behavior. To answer Luckay's question: if IH is town, I think I'd go for MoS next.

[Ether]

You're going to have to go back a few pages to day 1 and 2 I believe. Plenty of Jack caseage.

You could re/state what the caseage

is

, though. It'd be nice.

Will your spirit start throwing things around if I don't vote MoS tomorrow? I'm not sure why you quoted me.

[Ether]

Do you care what the town does when you're dead or not?

[Ether]

It was not. I thoroughly believe that you did not immediately realize who Canuckle investigated, and believe that you are scum anyway.

Just like you stated the case on Me? mmk.

Well, then. You're dying anyway; you appear to be resigned to this. If you really want Jack to be lynched, I fail to see how two wrongs make a right.

[Ether]

My post count is swelling
I simply can't quit
My fingers rebelling
Now, "Preview!" "Submit!"
Your posts are compelling
Have I lost my wit?
(Number five
How

strange

; I've hit number five)
In part of my brain, this
Is all for the best
But I can't maintain this;
I'd only get stressed
I cannot explain this
I might be possessed
(Number five
How

odd

; I've hit number five)

In fact, I think anyone that says my case against him was bullshit or bad or whatever is full of shit themselves

I said that the case on Fritzler as stated by Luckay and supported by you was bullshit, and I don't feel that this has ever been adequately denied. I don't particularly mind the Luckayunvote in and of itself (as for the original case's validity, I think I'll want to read Fairytale at some point), but I strongly disliked your immediate entry onto the Fritzwagon and complimenting the points that Luckay himself admitted were slight.

Admittedly, there's something in the defense that Fritzler used that I also dislike. "Twito couldn't have known what he was talking about!" is a silly assumption to make; it's as though he's already admitted that there's a connection that would otherwise be incriminating. Bah.

I am amused that you would lynch me off the basis that IH is town, Ether. Care to explain why IH coming up town would make you want to lynch me?

It wouldn't be "off the basis" at all. If IH is town, every conspiracy theory that ever crossed my mind will go down the drain and I won't really have much direction anymore. Independently, you'd still be up there. Dunno how I'd feel about Thok. Cogito would be just gone.

Out of curiousity, who would you want to lynch if IH came up scum?

Right now, probably one of you, Thok and Cogito. I currently find you/Thok together unlikely, though. Curse that "there are at least four scum" clause.

[Ether]

MoS, I read your vote choice as "Yeah, yeah, that's cool, Luckay. (Whatever.) Now let's all go out for scones!"

I don't really get the approach everyone seems to be taking to the Fritzwagon, anyway; this is one of those times where Twito's knowledge seems nigh-irrelevant. Two side-comments that don't involve scumhunting? Please. Especially when MoS says

this

:

Ever hear of distancing tactics?

as he attacks Fritzler.

PBug replaces Nightson, effective immediately. Give him a warm welcome!

PBuG, you are handsome, witty and intelligent! PBuG, you're everything Nightson will never be! PBuG, we love you!

Will someone tell me the reasoning behind voting IH (I would love exact post references)?

I'm in school right now, I have less than a minute left online and I've led the charge for a while anyway. Before I get home, I invite my fellow wagoners of

Truth

to field this. Thanks.

[Ether]

Oh?

(Incidentally, I just realized that what I said about Thok/IH is nigh-meaningless because of the deadline. Scratch that.)

Before I get home, I invite my fellow wagoners of

Truth

to field this.

(Incidentally incidentally, no takers?)

[Ether]

Guys, I

really

don't think we should be voting Jack.

Jack's Canucklevote is also a bad idea.

Kill was probably just a one-shot, considering how late it took to happen.

I don't have any convoluted conspiracy theories anymore, but I I still don't particularly like Thok. Posts like 1185 sum it up--I understand that he's saying a bit more now, but only a bit--and why didn't he try saying something of actual relevance

then

?

I haven't really seen a case against VitaminR. Weren't the attacks on him based on IHscum? Meh. Oh--while we're on this paragraph, VitaminR, I note that Space Monkey is over. Feel free to elaborate on PBuG (replacing Nightson) now (if that had anything to do with your suspicion).

I didn't just change my vote on a whim or without good reason.

Um. I'm not saying a Luckay unvote was scummy. I'm saying a Fritzler vote as Luckay suggested was. There simply wasn't anything there--was there? Tell me how profound the case was.

So, it's relevant that I mention distancing tactics as I attack Fritzler,

who you don't even think is scum?

Interesting logic there, Ether.

Your logicblindness simply

can't

be an accident. The only thing Luckay said about Fritzler that set him apart from the rest of his List was that Twito was abnormally friendly to him. Someone defended Jack, saying that Twitoscum wouldn't act that way around Jackscum: you kick Twito's behavior

here

aside as "distancing tactics."

Seriously, MoS ought to be dead now.

vote: Mastermind of Sin

[Ether]

C-head

...

I'll get something together about IH if everyone insists that

I

do it, but I'd still much rather demand that explanation of a lower-profile wagoner. (Incidentally, PBuG, I can stall all I want today and I know it.)

You shouldn't vote for Jack because...meh, I'll wait for the Canuckle business to sort itself out.

Jack, please give a List of your voters and Thok. Comments, too.

I haven't really seen a case against VitaminR. Weren't the attacks on him based on IHscum? Meh.

Ether, I hope you didn't just mistake IH for scum, which he wasn't kthx.

Um, no.

[Ether]

Jack, why are you voting for Canuckle?

[Ether]

Well, were.

[Ether]

I'd be cool with a Jacklynch now. Well, not

now

; I think there's a bit more for the rest of us to discuss. Earlier, I regarded Jack's Canucklevote as a poor man's counterclaim. His three-towngoers response to Thok kicks that away.

PBuG, what I said earlier about preferring to see TheCaseOnWhyIHIsADeathGodfather from the keyboard of a wagoner who was less vocal at the time still applies. I'd be happy to add corrections after that, or explain myself if a lot of people pressure me in particular--but as of now, I think presenting it myself would ruin it.

Pooky, my main complaint would be that people don't care enough about spats they haven't been forcibly dragged into. (Psst--the rest of you should check in regarding Ether/MoS and Ether/PBuG, and tell us what we've ignored around you.)

[Ether]

Unvote: Jack,
Vote: the silent speaker

Cool. But why not both?

(

unvote

)

PBuG, I'm stalling. I'm sure you've noticed this. Hopefully, you've also noticed that you can change this by getting more people to say that I and not CES/Fritzler/TheEye need to explain the IHwagon. (Jack's superfluous and Canuckle's a cop, so they don't count.)

Wait...CES/Fritzler/TheEye. Bah, I wouldn't bug the former two, knowing them. Okay--do we want something from TheEye first or not?

[Ether]

I owe BM one ballad. Redeem this when I'm online before midnight.

im confused as to how Jack thought he could prove he was pro town

I'm under the impression that he was just screwing around.

And BM seems to have returned a verdict, I would like to hear who we should vote for next because I'm 99.9999999999% sure of BM's townie tells, because C-head, through his investigations, has lead the town to it's current stage and we owe everything to him.

Um, hi. Welcome to Castle Jellugi. Now, who do you think is scum?

[Ether]

The jail's not that bad, Huck.

i ate zindie's cat

It's still not that scary; it serves vegetarian
Best stick with that.
I'm seeing new colors
(My vision's not great)
Was someone in trouble? Did he need this rubble?
Bah; better to wait.
This might not be pretty
Proportions are skewed
Three scum left; four lynches--Occult's demise clinches
The chances we're screwed.

Any objections to mass-claiming today?

Also, CES needs a prod and Bogre needs a replacement. I find TSS's pro-CES remark absolutely baffling. (Plus I find TSS himself scummy; I'll try to WIFOM CES's alignment out later. Kinda tired and hung up on deciding whether "rubble"/"trouble" and "lynches"/"clinches" rhyme.)

Also also, yay, it's Sarc.

[Ether]

It annoys me how little right I have to complain, having been replaced and all. But let's see anyway.

After my fiasco with IH, I was worried that my alignment might come into question--lucky, me having that one-shot kill. And I targetted MoS, too. Of course, the night I decided to go out and do something confirmable, I was roleblocked. Not that I realized the cause then. I was pathetically grateful that some governor liked me.

I left a few breadcrumbs to being the blue knight and screwing up my one chance at sweet confirmation.

It's the tragedy blues, people
Tragedy, tragedy
The night goes on and on and on

Seriously, MoS ought to be dead now.

I'm seeing new colors
(My vision's not great)
Was someone in trouble? Did he need this rubble?
Bah; better to wait.

(For the last one--as long as I was alive, I thought my role was part of a set. Seeing the Red Knight as a safeclaim now, I'm slightly amused.)

I wish Fritzler hadn't killed Canary, even if he

was

scum. I wanted to play with him. ._.

Did anyone have any amusing reactions or thoughts about my diva thing?

I came back from my flake like a day or two after TS was lynched. I read it. It was sad, in a "This is Restrictions 2 all over again why is she

town

why is she

me?

" way. I'm very grateful for the replacement gig, mind you. X_X

And, finally...

Thok said in the chat that my remains would be stuffed and put on display for the glory of the matriarchy. But you won't let that happen...right?