Jack of All Trades Mafia -- OVER!

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I will reread and post tonight. Sorry about that.

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don't lynch me cuz I'm lazy...i'll be here soon. I'm feeling guilty now, so I'll most likely post tonight, small chance i'll post tommorrow.

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Hey everyone! I got through it all by neglecting my english homework! Maybe I should bring random allusions to this game up in class.

Professor: How does Ovid use metamorphoses in this story? Yes, Jeff?
STD: I think he's saying that mathcam is clearly scum.

we're 3 from lynch does bluemonick realise that

Should, under closer inspection, be read as:

us n00bs got to stick together even if I don't know your alignment

and the following:

O.K now BMQ

dead wood any player that is not helpful

WHY AREN'T WE LYNCHING BJ

Bogre maybe you should listen to BJ and

vote Bogre

as then you can get lynched




YES ABOVE IS A REAL VOTE

should be:

Dude! Spamwise! You like eggs? Let's go egghunting sometime!

Although in Max's defence, he did do something right. But that's more me thinking he's smarter than he seems to be.

As for LML, when he said

I think he meant it.

And before I continue...

I feel like I've been using the Buddy System -- it

never

fails!

hey look, there's two bodies at the bottom of the pool...

anyway...

The scumzors are:

Cesspit
Mathcam

less likely but still possible

Spectrumvoid
Pooky

People who are both scum and town (seriously, these people are scummy but have given me reason to believe they are town as well)

Yosarian
Ibaesha

CESSPIT

General play D1, then he kinda crawls in the shadows and pops out from time to time. His votes are oppurtunistic.

Also, on

two seperate occasions

, he votes viperscum and then quickly backs away.

MATHCAM

I can vouch that the office of Jack Johnson is pro-town

Did anyone else notice this besides mathcam? Upon my reread I noticed it and was going to point it out, but it seems to have slipped through. But mathcam picks it up and tosses it aside. You are a smooth one, mathcam.

I also don't like how you keep moving around.

SPECTRUMVOID

I'm getting bad mojo from you, but if I really want to pursue you, I'll be sure to present something. There was something you did that I misinturpreted throughout the game, and when I double checked it was something different, so it might be from that.

POOKY

telling people you have a hidden camera filming them doesn't make it candid anymore. If you noticed anything while being Dr. House, I for one would like to hear it.

YOSARIAN

I was origionally Jack Xavier. I was basically a vanillia townie, as (to paraphrase) the office was empty of things other the office furnature.

Now, after my office was bombed, I am a townie of indeterminate name.

If someone with an item dies, does that item go to somewhere else, or is it just lost?

Plz explain how you knew about items if you didn't have one.

IBBY

(AND I AM SICK TO DEATH OF PLAYSTYLE EXCUSES)

Pooky: Pooky lurks - he does it more as town than scum. He was also on bluemonick's lynch and he hates bussing so he got points for that.

With all that,

Vote: Mathcam

and

FOS all you others

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It's clear, from the mod's discription of the game, from the first mod post, and from my own PM, that your abilities are based on the items in your office.

Please quote me if I'm wrong, but...

(While your company in known for the zany stuff sent to Wile E. Coyote, you actually make most of your revenue selling useful and less exciting items.)

This is the only time Yaw mentions items, and they aren't items in offices, they are products being sold.

Your name is Jack. As a good Jack, you have the inherent ability to perform any task, as long as you have the tools to do so. You work in the offices of ACME Industries, a place with many marvellous inventions...so when killers infiltrate the office you will have to use the tools you have to drive them out.

There appears to be no correlation between roles and items within the office. Tools could mean any number of things.

That leaves your own PM, which I'm not privy to. I still fail to see how you come up with items for everyone when you don't seem to have any.

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I'm willing to drop this, since there's not much else I can argue, and I'm believing it to be possible. It just caught my attention.

But Yaw says tools, not "each office has a tool." I don't see how an outsider can mix the two. I don't see how it's obvious to come to that conclusion.

But I really care more about lynching scumwise/scumcam.

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if you don't vote for her, kittens will die. is that what you want?

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to be honest, I could care less if you're voting ibby, and those saying you must vote her or stop attacking her make me wonder.

and no one has answered my question about mathcam yet, although I'll give it more time.

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while he may have been an idiot...

the whole surfboard and guitar thing was something I picked up on as a joke (read, NSW = Australia = probably Sydney, as it is in NSW = surfing) and I probably would have said something simmilar had my office moved. And I'm not an idiot (i'm a dumbass).

I still can see it as a scumtell even if he were an idiot, however, I think I did make a mistake in not looking at the quote as a whole.

I still find it suspicious that you keep moving around, but I'm willing to move on.

Unvote, Vote: Cesspit

for being the other other white meat.

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StD: It seems like your number one suspicion of me is that I brought up something scummy that spamwise did, that everyone else seems to have ignored. Can you explain again why that's scummy?

it's interesting to note, but i'm really not sure if it's scummy or not.

The fact is, spamwise said something and put it the way you quoted and I quoted it, it makes it seem like he's presuming something about his role that's not true. you become him and have to defend against what he did which is no easy task (i'm in your shoes right now) but it was interesting that no one else caught it and you did so you could pre-emptively remove it from our minds.

A lot of it was behavior that Spamwise had. And also some of it is making connections between you and other living people. If they start turning up scum, I'm going to look more heavily towards you, but until then I'm more interested in Cesspit.

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Reverse psychology:

DON'T VOTE CESSPIT.

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Just realized something.

Unvote for now

.

a) when you die, your information will be obvious to everyone so it's not worth it to reveal it any earlier, since it would help the scum, too
b) this information is so devastatingly helpful to the scum that it far outweighs anything the town would get out of it
c) there is some sort of consequence (game mechanic-wise) of you sharing this information in thread that you are trying to avoid

I almost forgot about this. Combined with Cesspit's vote on Coron not making ANY sense (you say he's trying to set up the lynch with no support from anyone, and think he's scum because school kept him too busy to post? wtf?), I believe a

vote: TheCesspit

is in order.

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Do you think Cesspit is suspicious?

Do you think Cesspit is lying?

Do you think Cesspit has information?

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>< relating to those three scenarios...that was directed at Cesspit, correct?

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that works for me.

Vote: MMoD

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he said he'd read like 3 times.

I'm more interested in pressure at this point. Once he pops up I'll probably relinquish, but right now I have nothing better to do with my vote.

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Unvote, vote: Cesspit

IGMEOY MMoD.

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stupid private lib arts school not giving me a day off...

I thought Columbus day was the 12th, though...

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FOS: Pooky

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FOS: HarryPotter

although I can't really hold it against you. I always say, "I'll do it tommorrow" and then next week I return to the game and find that I've been lynched.

Hmmm.

We could switch it over to Mmod to give the replacement a chance.
On the other hand...45 pages is a lot...if enough people are sure of Cesspit's guilt there's no need for a replacement.

Or we could...i dunno. Those are the two I'd be willing to vote right now.

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Does someone else want to field MBL's post? I could break it down and show how utterly scummy it is,

O.o

Umm...his post was his take on everyone in the game. I'm not going to sit here and say scum wouldn't do that, but I'm not going to accuse such a post of being scummy when I fail to see what's wrong with it.

If you think MBL is town, don't bother.

If you think he's scum, show it.

I am not convinced, so I won't vote him.

I'm more convinced of either Cesspit or MMoD. I have stated my case against harrypotter, and I fos:pooky to see who would respond, not to fos him. MoS said nothing, which makes me wonder.

I'd be willing to go after Fuldu or Coron. Right now I think the play is Cess or MMoD.

Still, we may need some prods.

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there is no reasoning to go with this, what do you want me to say about it? I can't comment on something that has no substance.

Why do you say this now when I have explained it in a later post?

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I'd be willing to go after Fuldu or Coron. Right now I think the play is Cess or MMoD.

Right now I can't think well.

Unvote

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Just in case there was any question about the issue, that is the correct discription of the townie office.

All offices have a desk and a chair IIRC. Not to say Ibby is lying, but I'm not going to say this looks any better on her, especially since she's been in an office with a desk, a chair, and something.

STD: Aren't you just waffling a bit much?

<SNIP>

Why isn't Fuldu lynched yet?

I like waffles.

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I concur.

Unvote, Vote: Fuldu

As for Pooky: I'm not liking what you're spewing. I'm loving the fact you are participating, but the whole appeal to emotion thing isn't doing it for me.

As for MoS: First of all, the point was that I was giving you a ball and I wanted to see how you played with it. When I revealed that, there's no point is seeing what the result is because it could easily be falsified.

Second of all, I don't see how you can link one living person with another and call them scum. If MBL is scum and Cesspit isn't, then he can use what you've said against you. If MBL is town and Cesspit is scum, (and you are too) then you could just reiterate what you're saying.

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It is a moot point.

Here's the play by play.

STD sees MoS defend Pooky.
STD recalls MoS has defend Pooky before in previous game without taking into consideration Pooky's alignment.
STD decides to see how MoS will behave when he FOS: Pooky.
STD has no idea what will happen and wants to analyze what does happen to see if he can better determine MoS's alignment, because he has hypothoses about how MoS will react if town or scum.
MoS misses statement entirely.
STD wonders about what could have happened, but does not find MoS suspicious in any way because of this incident.
STD backs down because no data was recieved.
STD should have explained himself more clearly.

MoS said nothing, which makes me wonder.

Yeah, that's not clear at all. I meant to say something to the affect of, "MoS said nothing, which makes me wonder what I could have learned had he said something during that time, i.e. 'POOKS CAN'T BE LYNCHED DIE SCUM DIE.'"

I had reason to believe you'd play with the ball no matter how deflated it was, however.

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Sticking with Fuldu for now, IGMEOY: Mathcam.

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Hmm. I'm not so sure negativity equates scum more than it does frustration, but I see you just think MBL is more likely to be scum than other people. I have not found MBL to be particularly scummy but it is a possibility. Maybe someday I'll look back over the thread, but that may not happen.

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This game needs a kill/no kill list!

Kill:

armlx
Uraj45
Coron
Fuldu
Harry_Potter
MrBuddyLee
mystery meat of doom
PookyTheMagicalBear
mathcam
Oberon

No kill:

ibaesha
Mastermind of Sin
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spectrumvoid
Yosarian2

hmm. That didn't help much at all. But those are probably the bandwagons I'd be willing to follow if they picked up enough speed and reason.

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Half of it is vibey, half of it is fact. Usually the kill lists include dead weight and such.

Kill:

armlx = worthless
Uraj45 = interesting posts as of late
Coron = lurking
Fuldu = i'm voting you
Harry_Potter = not posting much
MrBuddyLee = could possibly be scum
mystery meat of doom = not helpful
PookyTheMagicalBear = not particularly helpful, appeals to emotion bothersome
mathcam = gettin' bad vibes on this one, dudes.
Oberon = not helpful

No kill:

ibaesha = seems sincere
Mastermind of Sin = seems sincere
Save The Dragons = trust me
spectrumvoid = the whole PM thing
Yosarian2 = signs point to town

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hmm. To be honest I don't remember why I was voting Fuldu. I think a lot of it had to do with wagoning.

Unvote

I switched to mathcam during the crash. I really thought spamwise was scum during my readthrough and didn't feel so swell about mathcam being on the pro-town list. But I don't know if I'm ready to vote him yet.

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Si, pero los dos son non-participationo, y non-participationo es malo para el pueblo.

I missed why the town is having this arguement.

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I don't think MBL's a good candidate, and I think he's town. While these debates seem very unhelpful and nitpicky, I see them as town trying to encourage people to post and figuring out where they stand. I will admit it does not appear to the be the best way (the phrase, "who are the scum, Pooky?" comes to mind), but I don't think it's bad.

I just can't describe how I feel about mathcam, but it's a collection of little things, like little balls of mercury falling into a container. Spamwise threw in big chunks of it, but ever since then, I feel mathcam has, with every post, been dropping a little bit, and it builds up. You can't tell when he drops it, but you notice the pot is fuller. That's kinda what I feel.

I wasn't satisfied with Spamwise's posts.
I wasn't satisfied with his explaination (although he did a pretty darn good job)
I'm not satisfied that this latest post is sincere or scum going for easy pickings (and they don't come much easier than MBL).

In any case,

Vote: Mathcam

. Intuition. I'll eat my firstborn if you're town.*

*non-binding contract.

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killing mathcam is easy cuz he's beautiful...

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it's not definative. mathcam didn't have to be the one to make the kill, neither did MBL.

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spectrumvoid, which nights did you block them?

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Fos:Spectrumvoid

Does something about this seem odd to anyone else?

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I'm close to voting spectrumvoid.

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I'm about 33-33-33 for voting Fuldu, Spectrumvoid, Uraj45.

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Vote: Spectrumvoid

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ok guys

lets go

vote SV

kill kill kill

<3 Pooky

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Unvote, Vote: Fuldu

acceptable alternative

I actually did voice concern about spectrumvoid today. I don't think she's pro-town, either an anti-town RB or just flat out lying.

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For those who don't know what LAL is: http://www.mafiascum.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/LynchAllLiars .

This alone tells me you're scum.

Vote: Uraj

$100 to dragon preservation!

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Here's the problem.

To me it looks like you linked that to get people to follow you and vote based on metagame reasons.

To be honest, I hate it when people lie for the hell of it. I wouldn't mind lynching those people.

However, now is hardly the time to start executing metagame strategies. If you're town and you think SV is town, then it makes no sense to lynch her just to prevent her from lying in the future.

One day, pro-town lying won't work (I still don't understand the full ramifications of what happened here, explain plz?), and she'll have to deal with it.

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However, now is hardly the time to start executing metagame strategies. If you're town and you think SV is town, then it makes no sense to lynch her just to prevent her from lying in the future.

And I mean this because it's day 6 and we're low on the scums we've killed.

$300 for dragon preservation!

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Am I under the correct impression that our offices are currently permanent since we lack an office switching role? Because it would be nice for Jack Phillips to be in the game again.

Still liking Uraj lynch.

MoS is most likely scum.

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I'm the role switcher.

that has a lot to do with my confusion.

You lied this whole time about being an RB?

Did you get switched last night into a role switching room?

If my questions reveal something that isn't already in thread, then please don't answer them unless they are necessary. I'm still not so sure about what exactly happened with the "lying" and the

lying

and the...

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StD, you need to read today's post because every single one of those questions has been completely covered within the day.

My post actually said that. So thank you. You're helpful.

But I will look through today and find it. I was wondering if someone knew them off the top of thier head.

$600 to dragon preservation!

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I'm killing Uraj as fast as I can.

$700 for dragon preservation!

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I'm voting Uraj because he quoted LAL in not a very oppurtune situation and posted a link to the wiki, which seems like a tactic to sway people towards his position. Like he was trying to use fact to justify doing something ridiculous.

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I'm late for chem! And...

$900 for dragon preservation!

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Again I will say to STD that I try to backup any of my arguments with proof whenever I can. A strong argument is backed with evidence and making a strong argument is a good idea no matter what side you're on. Figuring something out is useless if you can't

No, you quoted a wiki article on game theory, you did not provide emperical proof on a fact.

What's scummy is that you keep seeming to want to present this theory as fact to sway people into believing it.

$1000 for dragon preservation! (Yaw promised me $100 for dragon preservation everytime I posted in a prod. The prod also said something about it not being real money or it not being legally binding or some other minor detail I'll work out with Yaw as I threaten to burn his house down.)

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hey i think it get it now...the whole lying thing. I still am not too sure how pab figured it out, but maybe one day it'll come to me.

And that day is today! I feel so smart. SV is what pablito was and was asking for the switcher.

Bah come on let's ignore my inate ramblings and kill Uraj. Feel free to add this to the list of attacks against you.

$1100 for dragon preservation!

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I'd rather wait.

I kinda want my old office back, or at least put someone in my old office if I'm not to be trusted.

Yaw: I'm including the posts other people have made adding $100 to the fund. I hope you don't mind...*pets giant dragon with mouth aimed towards house*

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Don't worry about me, folks, STD has an old address. That's been since turned into a tattoo parlour. I'm sure those bikers will be awfully happy to see their place burned down...

They could pay the bill for you...I don't personally want to burn down things...

That was hard to type with a straight face.

I'm currently skimming through STD. Does anyone think STD is scummy for whatever reason?

I take it that's a 'no' on the office switching, then.

A decided lynch isn't a lynch fufilled.
Regardless, no content-relevant posts should be made during twilight.

TWIGHLIGHT MASS CLAIM TIME!

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absolutely nothing...what are you trying to prove?

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K. If I'm town, please place me back into Jack Phillips.

If you don't believe me, please place someone into Jack Phillips.

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MoS, you're a fast one.

I shall take care of MMoD.

MMoD has posted 37 times. Here are important tidbits.

Post 2: Joins viper wagon (scum, last known as bluemonick) because he's annoying
Post 4: Switches to Borge (town), for reasons stated by others. Calls Spamwise (town, last known as Mathcam) out for saying Viperwagon stalled because scumbuddies are on it...interesting.
Post 5: Asks for a claim 3 hours after voting
Post 7: Votes TSS(SK) for attacking Colonel Kurtz (Uraj, protown) for his attack on lordy (protown) for appearing to claim a pro-town role. MMoD states that it seems CK's talking about a mafia role.
Post 8: Points out that lordy did not actually claim a role to armlx (AKA pablito, protown).
Post 9: During the bluemonick wagon, votes for Masterchief (Protown, inhimshallIbe) for MC's bad logic.
Post 10: States why a role swapping office is probably pro-town.
Post 11: States he believes alignments came with offices, but abilities can switch.
Next 4 posts: "I'm going to reread"
Post 17: Mentions suspicion on Yosarian(protown) for derailing viperwagon (scum) on D1 for mlaker (Borge, pro-town). Suspicious of MBL (protown) and Harry_Potter (Quagmire, alive) as well.
Post 18: Response to MoS (alive), answers with a "i dunno," about Cesspit (mathcam, pro-town). Call's pooky (alive) lurking.
Post 22: Claims roleswitcher
Post 23: Reconsiders claim
Post 24: Clarifies claim
Post 25: Pimps claim
Post 27: Claimed to move Yos.
Post 28: Defends moving people every night.
Post 29: Suspicious of SV (alive) for involvement in matchcam wagon (protown)
Post 30: Votes for SV (alive).
Post 31: "WTF did we just lose?"
Post 32: Tries to switch SV(alive) to Jack Kay's office...isn't this another office switcher? Said uber-switcher overrided him, although Spectrumvoid

did

go to Jack Kay's office.
Post 34: Reveals Jack Zimmerman's (CES, protown) office as uberswitcher, supports Uraj (protown) lynch.
Post 35: Explains a "WTF did we just lose?" post earlier...I'm not 100% I buy this as genuine.
Post 37: Suggest moving someone into the cop office.

Good Points:
* The "WTF did we just lose?" seems genuine, like he actually saw scum talking about the game being won. It's a little sketchy, but I think I can buy it. It's a wierd thing for scum to do.

*Posts logical points, at least gives a mild explaination for his votes.

Bad Points:
* Jumps off of viper wagon to join the Borgewagon

* Accuses Yosarian of derailing the viper wagon. Yosarian was never on the viper wagon, and MMoD jumped off of it to join Yos's wagon.

*Barely any of his own analysis, it mostly relies on other people's arguements and agreeing with them.

*Joins SV wagon when it picks up steam

Neutral Points:
* Pimps claim out to anyone.

* Says that SV was switched by the uberswitcher and not him, even though SV went into the office he stated.

I probably would not be opposed to lynching MMoD; I am not satisfied with his play. However, I want to see how other people look, since I'm not quite ready to condemn MMoD yet.

$1900 for dragon preservation!

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Need time to respond to MoS's post, dont have it now. Sorry, all.

$2000 for dragon preservatioN!

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Will Pie pay for dragon preservation in your stead?

$2100 for dragon preservation!

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$100 a hammah.

$2200 for dragon preservation!

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Unvotes Cesspit, no reason why. Quotes a couple of my posts with a "?" after them, I don't know what he was getting at with that.

Asks me some questions about Cesspit, then asks me another question that I didn't understand and asked for some context about.

I wanted to know why you were voting Cesspit if you thought Cesspit had information. You presented three scenarios for Cesspit to have information, and voted him anyway.

Ignores my request and moves on to vote MMoD when it's pointed out that he keeps saying he'll reread but never does.

I did not think it made you particularly scummy, but it was a reason why I no longer wanted to vote Cesspit at the time (I'd later fogotten about this whole ordeal.)

Goes back to Cesspit, no reason given.

And as you can see, I'd forgotten sooner rather than later.

I would like an explanation of this, both the lack of reason for unvoting and revoting Cesspit, plus the ignoring my clarification request when you had apparently unvoted Cesspit based off something I said/did, then moving straight to MMoD and disregarding the whole thing with Cesspit.

Basically: I unvoted Cesspit because if he had information, I wanted to be more cautious with my vote.

I ignored your clarification because fire rained down from the sky and a voice told me to go for and be fruitful. That, or I've, once again, long since forgotten.

I went to MMoD because I found Cesspit less suspicious. I probably switched back when I found it more suspicious.

I'm still confused somewhat by the whole FoS Pooky thing, but I think I kinda see where STD was coming from, so I guess that's fine. I think it was mostly miscommunication between us, anyways.

Yeah. I just wanted to see how you'd respond.

I'd like to hear what STD has to say about Coron, Quagmire, MMoD, and Pooky (those four in particular).

MMoD is done.

Pooky's like a blip that appears every once in a while. My gut says that he's not scum, but I don't trust my gut too much.

I like Coron as well. I think his scumhunting, although it might not be accurate, is not completely baseless, even if he does not give his reasons. I could still just as well see him as scum, but right now I'm not leaning that way.

Quagmire just wants to kill you. That's all there is to him. I'm not particularly liking that at the moment.

I also want to know why STD went from saying that he felt I was genuine and shouldn't be lynched, then was stating I was scum while wanting Uraj lynched, but today, the only posts he's made have been about his new office and wanting his old one back. If you really think I'm scum, why haven't you voted me or presented reasoning to get me lynched, since your #1 suspect, Uraj, was lynched yesterday?

I have absolutely no idea why I said that you were scum. I'm sure I had a reason, but it escapes me, nor did I care to write it down. So...I don't really think you're scum.

Also, why has SV bounced around in your suspicion list? You had her on your no kill list, but then you wanted to lynch her, Fuldu, and Uraj equally, and even voted her. Then, yesterday, you went after Uraj and mentioned that I was scum, but never even talked about SV at all.

My mind changes. I at first thought the whole PM thing was good for her, then she does here roleblocky speil and posts some strange posts imo. Yesterday, she explained how she lied, which may or may not account for what happened, but it does, IMO, make here look a little more town.

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SV: *Raises hand*

i wanna kill Quag as well.

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i disagree.

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I don't think everybody did Pooky's thing, and that makes me sad.

My mind says to vote Quagmire, my heart tells me to look elsewhere. I'll tell you which one wins sometime before the deadline.

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People Total: 25
People Living: 8
Scum Total: 4-6ish
Scum Found: 2 + 1 SK

6 scum impossible, 5 scum = lylo today, 4 = lylo tommorrow.

Coron -- Nothing seems out of the ordinary to me.
Quagmire (replacing Harry_Potter) -- Makes sense logically, but seems to be honest.
Thok (replacing ibaesha) -- Hmmm...
Mastermind of Sin -- Seems pro-town
mystery meat of doom -- I am on the fence with him.
PookyTheMagicalBear -- Hmmm...
spectrumvoid (replacing Shamrock) -- I had doubts in the past, not so much anymore...

I think MMod is likely, but I don't want to vote for anyone until I look back on a few players or time runs out (the latter of which is more likely to happen).

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Are you saying that you think Thok who replaced Ibby who went after Fuldu(scum) very hard is actually scum who tried to throw her partner under the bus at a time that made no taouctical sense?(because I don't see Ibby as the type who'd throw under the bus, and the timing isn't right either)

this is shock, not anger.

HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET ALL THAT FROM "HMMMM..." ?

bah, you're dead. Please tell me post game. You confused the hell out of me.

Once again I request that you put someone pro-town into my former office because it is something the town can use but the scum can't really use. It's not the greatest thing in the world, but it would be nice to switch people into offices that can serve some purpose.

Vote: Quagmire

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All I meant was that I have no idea off the top of my head whether you are good or bad. So I said, hmmm...

perhaps I should have said, "I dunno," or "I wonder what alignment they are, since I can't tell,"

but I did say hmmm to another person as well (I think) and didn't get chastized for it.

hmmm...

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I don't think spectrumvoid is scum, although how she's dealing with her switcher role is kind of wierd...and the fact that scum have kept her alive, too...

Did somebody do the pooky thing to her?

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What pooky thing?

The analyze the posts of the person below you "thing." I think only like three people did it, and I thought it was a good idea.

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SV: I'd rather you have put someone in my old office days ago. It really doesn't matter now, since we're running out of nights. The fact that you've ignored my request thus far has given me no reason to believe otherwise that you have any intention of doing what I suggested a while ago. I'll admit you don't really have a reason to do so, but still.

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Day 6:

February 10th:

Am I under the correct impression that our offices are currently permanent since we lack an office switching role? Because it would be nice for Jack Phillips to be in the game again.

February 21st:

I kinda want my old office back, or at least put someone in my old office if I'm not to be trusted.

Day 7:

March 1st:

K. If I'm town, please place me back into Jack Phillips.

If you don't believe me, please place someone into Jack Phillips.

March 25th:

Anyone wants a change in office?

SV: *Raises hand*

Day 8:

April 26th:

Once again I request that you put someone pro-town into my former office because it is something the town can use but the scum can't really use. It's not the greatest thing in the world, but it would be nice to switch people into offices that can serve some purpose.

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At work.

My opinion on Quagmire has not changed.
My opinion on MMoD (now ThAdmiral) has not changed.

Either are acceptable voting options. I don't see anyone else as scum at the moment.

Yeah, actually Thok's theory is looking really apetizing unless there's a vig office that was used.

God that was a lackluster post. I'm sorry.

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@Thok: seeing as you are trying to deduce who quagmire's scum partner is, do you have any lead suspects?

my name's not thok, but I'm thinkin' you.

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I am of the opinion currently that scum is in the following:

{ThAdmiral, Coron} and if both of these are lynched, we are golden.

I will revise that statement (or agree with it) on further review of the game).

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I've been very confused about SV's alignment and it saddens me to see that SV is still alive, just because I have no read (or rather, I have reads both ways).

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Save the dragons: if you believe me and coron are scum then you have nothing to lose by putting your money where your mouth is and voting him as well. Just saying.

No.

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Please don't brush these questions off.

Coron: Why aren't you voting ThAdmiral?

ThAdmiral: Why are you voting Coron?

MoS: Who's the scum?

SV: Who's the scum?

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Ooo...STD <3 answers, thanx.

IMO we have 2 groups of scum, hence two killings, which would make sense for there to be only 1 scum left. Random role generally neutralizes thier boost to the pro-town, so I can see why there might be 2 mafia of 2 and an SK in a game of 25. But I could be wrong. Hmmm.

I guess it could be a scumgroup of 4 or 5 with a vig office...ooo, that would suck.

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Shit. I'm here, but I'm running out of time. I'll post after work.

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STD works random hours. The thing is, I only show up every few days because I'm rationing my time with all the things I want to do, when I'm not working. I apologize, and I will try to show up more frequently. My friend came to visit from Florida and he was over a lot, so I didn't have much time the past few days, but he's gone now. So yeah, that was vague. You don't need to replace me if this doesn't bother you too much. I'm very willing to see this to the end.

Coron and MoS's arguement != helpful.

Do we have any reason to believe MoS is scum? Does anyone find him scummy? Am I forgetting an investigation/obvious reason for him to be pro-town? Bear in mind, this is not to say MoS is scummy, nor that I think this way, but I'd rather cover all the bases, because this is piquing my curiousity.

SV has been all over the place. I don't have much problem voting for, but I'm still wondering if one of Coron/ThAdmiral serves better as Quag's scumparter/the remaing scum.

Coron, are you considering anyone else beside ThAdmiral?

Feel better, SV!

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at this point I'd be willing to vote anyone but MOS.

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Vote: Spectrumvoid

At this point I am ok with this.