Two-Headed Mafia 2 - GAME OVER!

[Adele]

w00t!

My only defence, is that craplogic is better than no logic.

Hmm. Vague claim there. The trouble isn't that crap (or weak) logic

is

, but that it has a dangerous tendency to masquerade as truelogic. No logic is defiantly indefensible. Craplogic... you're waiting for someone to pick up on it, and it seems essentially dishonest in its nature. If it were upfront, followed by a "/craplogic" tag, that'd maybe be different...

[Adele]

And i also think you are scummy, you act totaly town...act. You know even such "town" like you can end up being scum in townies clothes soo.

Her behaviour is indistiguishable from pro-town... ergo she's scum?
Try again.

[Adele]

btw, heads-up: I believe Pooky's got keyboard problems and can't post.

[Adele]

Eon, is English your first language? Don't take that the wrong way; lots of non-English speakers play in these forums. I'm just having quite a lot of trouble understanding you.

In other news: hmm. If you were trying earlier at a subtle hint, it failed. The argument you presented against Ibby was dire (sorry, it was) and it did serve to make you look suspicious, not her (since

we

have no outside evidence as to whether you, ibby or both or neither of you is scum, "I think we should lynch X" is no good at all).

After your most recent post, I think you're in a spot of bother - maybe you should have a quick strategy discussion with your other head.

One other thing:

Listen vote against me and you will see how wrong you are what do i have to worry about?

That's never a good thing to say. Whether you are good or evil, your lynching harms your team's likelihood of success -

your

likelihood of success (since if you die but your team wins, you win). Comments like this smack of a sulking child taking their ball and going home. I'm not sure whether it's a scumtell - some say it is, some say it's not - but it's only ever going to do you harm.

[Adele]

mod

: any chance of a votecount?

I agree that's off of sepectrumvoid.

FOS: spectrumvoid

until I'm well and up to analysing all of spectrumvoid and lordy's posts.

[Adele]

standard message: apologise for my absence, will post tomorrow

[Adele]

There's not enough time to start a wagon on a third person? Pff. PBPA coming tomorrow.

[Adele]

Ew, did I really volunteer to do a PBPA? Why why why did I do that? Sleep deprivation helps us make poor choices.

Well, I won't putz out, but I won't do it right this minute either. Later this evening. 'Course, I dunno if we'll have time to act on it today... here's hoping, anyhow.

[Adele]

This is taking forever...
This is a body PBPA, not a head one; that'd be... well, it'd annoy me, so you can just live with it.

Bodies:

AdeletheMagicalBear
AmtoFry
Night-lx
BirdLurker
ChannelZiliu
CEMGM
Dripping Coron
re2Eon
Ibae-tzler
MOglork
H2man
SpectrumLord
MiniSpron
MrBuddyJelly
Save Pablito
The Silent Yos
Uberstatusquo

Pages 1&2:
1 . Ibae-tzler : generic query
2 . Mod :
3 . Mod :
4 . SpectrumLord : r. vote BirdLurker
5 . MrBuddyJelly : r. vote H2man
6 . The Silent Yos : r. vote AdeleTheMagicalBear
7 . BirdLurker : r. vote H2man
8 . Dripping Coron : r. vote Moglork
9 . ChannelZilliu : r. vote UberStatusQuo
10 . Save Pablito : r. vote Save Pablito
11 . MOglork : r. vote Minispron ridiculous fos attached +3
12 . MOglork : dice roll
13 . MOglork : r. vote The Silent Yos
14 . MOglork : another ridiculous fos
15 . MOglork : comment to self
16 . MrBuddyJelly : comment to self
17 . BirdLurker : comment to self
18 . CEMGM : vote: H2man
19 . BirdLurker : supports CEMGM's vote on H2man
20 . UberStatusQuo : omgus vote: ChannelZilliu
21 . re2Eon : spam first comment in game=spam? +3
22 . Night-lx : vote: re2Eon claims random, looks more like a to me
23 . Ibae-tzler : vote: Dripping Coron
24 . SpectrumLord : vote: Birdlurker "for the same thing"…
25 . Mod : votecount
26 . Dripping Coron : comment to mod
27 . Night-lx : comment to mod
28 . mod : "ta"
29 . ChannelZilliu : confirm vote uberstatusquo omgus confirmation
30 . BirdLurker : confirm vote: H2man for lurking
31 . Save Pablito : omgus vote: Save Pablito :roll: nothing better to say than self-voting spam? +3
32 . Save Pablito : comment on own's uselessness
33 . re2Eon : spam
34 . Night-lx : spam
35 . AmtoFry : "has my partner showed up yet"

No he hasn't

- try reading
36 . Minispron : vote: Moglork for craplogic
37 . CEMGM : comment to self doesn't like current vote, wants to confer
38 . re2Eon : Vote: MrBuddyJelly for an early joke
39 . ChannelZilliu : misunderstands re2Eon
40 . ChannelZilliu : explains MrBuddyJelly was joking earlier
41 . SpectrumLord : mentions a rule (can confer with self freely)
42 . CEMGM : FOS: CEMGM :roll:
43 . Ibae-tzler : FOS: re2Eon queries what Moglork craplogic referred to, suggests pseudo-nonrandom
44 . UberStatusQuo : comment: game confusing amen to that
45 . Save Pablito : spam I'm spending all this time chronicalling spam?
46 . re2Eon : protests ibea-ztler's vote, claims was joke +5 (see 47)
47 . Ibae-tzler : points out to re2eon, was FOS, not vote, big reaction
48 . Dripping Coron : suggests lynch on The Silent Yos
49 . BirdLurker : comments re2Eon's grammar

[Adele]

Fine.

No PBPA for you jerkwads

"dripping coron" amuses me.

Me too.

If nothing else, I think there might really be something to combining personas like that. At least, I think I might do that from now on.

*relents* okay, I'll keep at the PBPA, but it's a humungous project, so there's not enough time for it to be a useful tool today. Sorry, it's just not do-able when I've got a full-time job, a stinky cold and a theme mini to set up.

[Adele]

Combining the names isn't really a new thing. We had a huge discussion of hilarious name combinations in scumchat long before this game ever game ever came close to existing.

I'm... not....

It's not

about

the amusement factor - I'm saying, it makes it easier to see who's saying what. Well, for me, but then I'm much more used to mini games so 17 players is the upper limit for me.

[Adele]

Yeah, I really don't like what ShadowBird's been saying. I'll discuss the possibility of voting him with Pookyhugs

[Adele]

2) lordSV is pro-town, scum killed person who was suspecting us the most to frame us.

The reason they might've investigated you is what makes you suspicious. 'Framing' on you wouldn't have had much effect until it was revealed the target was a cop.
...
Scum couldn't have known leaving Ibby alive could result in an investigation result on you, so that can't be the reason they got killed, unless -of course- you did it to avoid being investigated.

Are you suggesting here that scum can't have known Ibby was a cop

unless

said scum was Spectrum?

Near as I can see, spectrum's claim's a fairly standard one - scum pick a target and NK the main accusers of that target to make the target look like scum NKing their worst enemies. Standard discussion with unfortunate WIFOM limitations (you can't take it as evidence of the potential targets' innocence, since then if they

were

scum they'd be even more likely to NK the most troublesome ones)

[Adele]

In any case it's probably safe to assume that each killing person/group sticks to the same MO, so this mich be useful down the line when there've been more NKs.

[Adele]

The site did not die yesterday morning. You said you'd have your case up "in a sec." More than six hours later, the site was still up and you had presented no case.

Um... the site died for me last night too (and already once this evening I've had the CPU overdone screen, but that comes up periodically). 'Course, we still need an explanation of why he's not given it more recently (since it undied enough for him to post) - I just thought I oughta mention, I experienced site deadedness yesterday evening.

[Adele]

I exist

(what it is, yeah, is that I noticed myself

thinking

. 'Course, I thought nothing of it, 'til it occurred to me, like, how can a nonexistant being think? Yo, it totally can't. So if I'm thinking I must exist. And could I be wrong about me thinking? Even if I think so, I'm thinking when I do that, so I'm wrong. So, what I reckon is, I definately think. No doubt. And If I think (which I do) then I exist. So, yeah. I exist. As aforementioned)

[Adele]

Mostly I'm still confused by the 2-headedness of everyone and trying to cover up for the fact that I can't keep track. Which I disguise as lurking.

QFT.
Am here.
Am suspected?
poop.

Sorry for my absence. I truly should've thought harder about being in a game with so many players. I thought since there were only 15

characters

... nm. Point is, it's my bad, and I gotta change; I'm on board with that.

Um, and since it's 3.40am, I'm not gonna do that right now. Expect content within 24 hours, and I hope I can be a reputable part of this game (hopefully it's pared down to a size I can handle by now anyhow).,

[Adele]

Oh joy,

that

game: "Post more!" / "OK" / "AHA!". I'm so over it.

SV/Klebe said I was scum. I'm not. Could I ask Klebe to clarify whether he was stating an opinion or breadcrumbing a fake cop claim? Ta.

[Adele]

And you got one. Content's really not a problem for me; I consider membership of a game a duty as well as a joy. But if you were expecting a PBPA, I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed. Not much has happened for a while here. It might be drip-feed for a while. But I'm confident we can bring the game back up to stat.

[Adele]

So, just to clarify: there's nothing to discuss here expect lurkers? Because that's obviously not a topic I can unhypocritically contribute to.

FOS: petroleumjelly

; you seem to be looking for easy, weak reasons to vote for people that'll be easy to back off from if they turn out unsafe for whatever reason.

[Adele]

Okay. Sorry to say, I've not developed any major suspicions, although I've got a few theories. One of these is that Re2Eon blocked Pablito/STD night 1, and the "never liked docs" was a breadcrumb or something (what townie actually dislikes docs?) and tacit apology.

I also have my own theories as to the probable setup, which differ from what Re2Eon thought, based in part on the night 2 info. However, some people seem uncomfortable with setup speculation (I think it can do more good than harm so long as it doesn't degenerate into a claim), So I'll leave it up to Pooky as to whether these ideas should be aired.

What I find remarkable is that 90% of the game content seems to have been about re2Eon. Unfortunately, I 100% agree with the voteson them; can't find anyone who pulled any craplogic to seal the deal or anything... meanwhile the last 100 or so posts are primarily check-ins and lurker complaints. I don't think I have a viable suggestion for the direction the game should go in.

We're back at square 1.

...

Random vote: Klebian

[Adele]

Sorry about my absence (I've been completely absent from the site).

PJ, sorry I don't have a huge voting record; that whole issue has been discussed already, as part of the "we lurked like crazy folk" convo. Earlier I said that discussion was stalled the the point that we were back at square one, hence the random vote. Note the lack of my use of dice tags; I'm prepared to accept that people might read ulterior motives in my random votes, in fact I think that's a big part of the point of them. However, I don't think that I (and it was me, rather than Pooky, that actually placed that vote) have a tendency towards OMGUSing. I've always been faintly amused by the idea; I certainly don't think it discourages votes, so what's the point?

More soon, but I'm short on time (as always)

[Adele]

Votecount:

Pooky/Adele: lots (nasty folk)
Other people: various (various)

not voting: putzes

[Adele]

What? You don't think there was a legitimate attack on us, yet think our failure to adequately answer the attack is worth mentioning? What exactly, then, did you think we should be defending?

Now you vote for us because nothing's going on to your satisfaction, and think we should claim when there's no case against us? I'll leave it up to Pooky whether we claim or not, but whichever he picks, your last post looks scummy as Hell. You don't care about a good lynch; you just wanna attack whoever's weak.

Vote: PJ/MBL

[Adele]

I would have expected you to at least decline to claim in that post, but you didn't even mention it.

I'll leave it up to Pooky whether we claim or not

I certainly find it interesting when people criticise me for not doing something I have done. So what's your objection to the post exactly? If someone's at lynch-1 they only exist in a capacity to whine and plead as they're led to the gallows or, in desperation, claim. God forbid that even in these desperate times, I criticise someone for doing something scummy out of boredom (at best; that's the excuse he gave).
Alternatively, do you expect me to defend myself? Against what?? As PJ noted, there's been no case presented; how can I rebut arguments that people are keeping secret (or simply do not have)?

Guys, come on. This is looking so very like an inertia lynch. Take a look at the lack of case against pooky and me ("They've been lurking" / "Sorry, we'll stop now" / "meh, we'll lynch you anyways").

[Adele]

For goodness' sake. How you expect us to defend ourselves when you don't raise anything for us to defend ourselves against, I don't know. Why you act as though this is so incredibly urgent because we're at risk of deadline when all mods ensure that the deadlines leave at least enough room to finish up and one hadn't even been set, I don't know.

Huggles for my other head.

Go town. Please don't do this again tomorrow; at least go easy enough on the "easy kill" so that the

actual

scum has a

chance

to show themselves.