Mafia in La-La Land (Game over!)

Staeg · Post Post #139 (isolation #0) » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:39 am

Shii town
Matt town
Jackal slight scum (gut-meta)
Shamrock town
Mehdi, how many games have you played on MS/how much attention do you usually pay to games?

vote: Jackal

For the record, no, I'm not going to state the reasoning on the townreads unless they're in any danger of being lynched (no, finding out my alignment is not a good enough excuse for me to do this).

Staeg · Post Post #142 (isolation #1) » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:09 am

In post 141, Mehdi2277 wrote:So what does my answer mean to you?

Well, I was hoping that you'd have at least 1 "normal" completed game (yours is a micro game) - you struck me as a player that doesn't skim over important things, and the endgame PMs would be one thing to look for. It just so happens that mafia QTs are included in said PMs, and if you had any more games, I'd call for you to be lynched on the spot based on the previous conversation.

Staeg · Post Post #171 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:17 am

In post 170, Konowa wrote:Okay.

Vote: Mehdi2277

I can't say that I agree or disagree with the kondi wagon as I did not follow the links provided by Matt.

This is quite the cool story, comrade, but it lacks an important part.

Staeg · Post Post #173 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:31 am

unvote
Vote: Konowa

Staeg · Post Post #179 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:19 am

In post 163, Blastoide wrote:How do you [Staeg] feel about Kondi?

Oh, I missed this before - dude needs to be purged off the face of the planet at some point, but this day is not the day for that.

Staeg · Post Post #208 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:44 pm

In post 200, Blastoide wrote:
In post 179, Staeg wrote:
In post 163, Blastoide wrote:How do you [Staeg] feel about Kondi?

Oh, I missed this before - dude needs to be purged off the face of the planet at some point, but this day is not the day for that.

Why? Is it because you think he may be scum or because of his playstyle?

Playstyle.

Staeg · Post Post #222 (isolation #6) » Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:57 am

Konowa, why did it take you so long to tell us why Mehdi's scum?

Staeg · Post Post #227 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:18 am

I'm really unsure about how I feel re: konowa's change in attitude. Will think about it a bit.

Staeg · Post Post #230 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:39 am

I would be up for claiming it if it's actually significant (aka, not "at least one of these 5 people is town").
There's also a thing that not actioning makes you eligible for dreaming - it doesn't guarantee it.

Staeg · Post Post #283 (isolation #9) » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:08 am

In post 273, Seastormjt wrote:#139 -- Staeg, do you have anything to say about the various things that have happened in the game so far?

To answer this, and also your issue of "why is noone making lumpenlists" - if everyone did that, the game would be made of about 20 pages of walls that contain 2000+ words when everyone's engaging in a wall-on-wall discussion... with every single person in the game. Thing is, the game doesn't work like that. And if I had something very very important to add, I would've done so already.

I will ISO some people of interest later today.

Staeg · Post Post #443 (isolation #10) » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:35 am

Prodded

GW2

Post and catchup later today

Staeg · Post Post #484 (isolation #11) » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:55 am

In post 483, Knight of Cydonia wrote:Still reading, but I'm going to throw down a
Vote: PMysterious
on policy because I've heard enough from people I trust to know I don't want him anywhere near endgame.

This is truths

vote: PMyst

I could lynch manho, wouldn't really hesitate to vote PV, shamrock can be lynched, but they're all kinda minor scumreads and I actually prefer a PL over them.

Staeg · Post Post #489 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:00 am

Anx - no, that post is not scummy - at least, not if you see all his other posts as not-scummy

Staeg · Post Post #491 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:30 am

No, see, it's exactly that - it's just that this post follows the exact same pattern that his other posts do (namely: herrrderr)

Staeg · Post Post #556 (isolation #14) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:36 am

Shii, is my PM vote better than KoC's (reasoning, too)?

Staeg · Post Post #562 (isolation #15) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:47 am

In post 557, Shiidaji wrote:You're weird and I want to know why you asked that

Well, to read you, fairly obviously; the thing is, I saw what I and KoC did as the exact same (as evidenced by me saying "this is truths"), so the fact that you get a scumread on KoC, but not me, seems like backwards-logic.

Staeg · Post Post #640 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:41 am

CAN IT DIE YET?

Staeg · Post Post #662 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:20 am

Reck, noone (Except for bitmap but he doesnt count) is claiming that PM slipped

It's that either he's scum or he's town and he'll get to lylo

And I don't want him anywhere near my lylo

Staeg · Post Post #689 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:42 am

DV, why is shamrock scum and how would you compare this to history mafia?

Staeg · Post Post #691 (isolation #19) » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:41 am

In post 690, DeasVail wrote:Was there something else you wanted me to compare to History Mafia?

No, not really - the fact that you said "That was scummy." with nothing to follow it up at all, whilst apparently having a townread on the poster seemed peculiar.

Staeg · Post Post #732 (isolation #20) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:12 pm

Yeahh that post gave bad feelings
Probably due to the last part of it

Staeg · Post Post #752 (isolation #21) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:32 am

What... what the hell was that?

vote: N

Staeg · Post Post #791 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:29 am

In post 790, DeasVail wrote:Reck: I don't know? If scum didn't put at least one scum in a claimed dream, they'd be caught out eventually, so I think it's a good idea to lynch from the dream, but I don't think I'm going to restrict myself to it. Actually, there is something that makes Jarvis more likely honest.

If the scum put 6 townies and themselves in there, that's still an end benefit to it because they won't nightkill the townies of the pool and 6-for-1 is a trade I'd take anyday as scum

Waiting for certain things to happen before doing other things

Staeg · Post Post #827 (isolation #23) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:31 am

I like gamma's avatar

I would also not regret wagoning/lynching KoC, mostly sheeping off everyone else

Also, where the fuck did N go?

Staeg · Post Post #839 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:10 am

In post 832, Equinox wrote:You're probably not going to forget a game in which you're scum, right, seeing as you haven't finished one of those yet?

Do you think that he couldn't have manufactured that response (if not on his own, then maybe with his potential daytalkbuddies)? There's also some loopholes here that shall not be spoken of but yeah.

Staeg · Post Post #842 (isolation #25) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:59 am

Just ftr, N, have you fully caught up yet?

Staeg · Post Post #844 (isolation #26) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:40 am

Well, no, not really. I'm just wondering why you're going all meta on everyone's ass when you haven't stated your actual in-game reads.

Staeg · Post Post #904 (isolation #27) » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:00 pm

unvote
Vote: Rach

Forgot to do this earlier, and it's basically for not existing.

Staeg · Post Post #915 (isolation #28) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:05 am

In post 913, Blastoide wrote:And how is no one noticing Bitmap. He is being so opportunistic it's unbelievable.

I wanted to talk about this a bit more: bitmap should die before massclaim (aka LyLo-2 or less). If we're not sure when that is, just lynch anytime.

Staeg · Post Post #931 (isolation #29) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:56 pm

Uggghhh not feeling the rach wagon anymore
Let's do this for a bit

unvote
vote: KoC

Not too long, though, deadline's in 4.25 days

Staeg · Post Post #936 (isolation #30) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:29 pm

In post 933, RachMarie wrote:I can see why Blast in reading his ISO.

Hnnngh
Rach probably shouldn't make it to massclaim, either

Staeg · Post Post #975 (isolation #31) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:53 pm

I have no clue why A) anyone would even consider that claim to be true B) wouldn't kill it on first sight immediately
i was going to go look at wagons and determine if KoC really needs death more than rach but uh, set phazers to death now thanks

Staeg · Post Post #995 (isolation #32) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:42 am

Equinox, the only people who took koc's claim seriously were newbies, and the dude was lynched not because he claimed jester, but because he didn't actually claim this close to deadline

Staeg · Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:52 pm

I had a dream guise
Petapan
Shiidaj
4nxi3ty
Seastorm
Konowa
^at least one scum over there
Konowa sounds as good as anything

vote: konowa

Staeg · Post Post #1079 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:09 am

Konowa's head
On a pike
Within 2 days if he doesn't remain true to his promise
Got it?

Staeg · Post Post #1162 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:39 pm

Jarvis is henceforth my spokesperson

Staeg · Post Post #1206 (isolation #36) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:23 am

In post 1204, RachMarie wrote:This is totally nuts. We are just stalled here. And no mod either

Dudes
If there's no mod, how does hammering help anything

(btw konowa we dont believe you)

Staeg · Post Post #1208 (isolation #37) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:35 am

In post 1206, Staeg wrote:(btw konowa we dont believe you)

I'm not saying that the hammer itself was bad, but people being "no wait cant hammer ppl havent posted yet olol" and then hammering when the mod's MIA is mildly suspicious

Staeg · Post Post #1212 (isolation #38) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:14 am

In post 1211, Kimor wrote:
In post 1208, Staeg wrote:
In post 1206, Staeg wrote:(btw konowa we dont believe you)

I'm not saying that the hammer itself was bad, but people being "no wait cant hammer ppl havent posted yet olol" and then hammering when the mod's MIA is mildly suspicious

The mod's been MIA for ages now. It's not a new thing. Eventually, we have to stop waiting on people who won't show up and get on with the game.

But how can we get on with the game if there's no mod? How does hammering speed up the mod's return?

Staeg · Post Post #1224 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:00 am

No problem with hydra.

Staeg · Post Post #1255 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:06 am

In post 1234, greygnarl wrote:DeasVail
Jarvis
N
Staeg

It doesn't say they are scum. It just gave their names.

Why is noone paying any attention to the last line
Like, literally noone.

Also not stoked about me suddenly going from a "yeh dude's town" to "eh I'd lynch that"

Staeg · Post Post #1263 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:32 am

Yes, I agree that it's LIKELY that the dream is your usual thingajigger, but there's a possibility that it isn't and I'm not sure why everyone's just dismissing it

I also agree that I've been a sack of useless but that will be remedied soon enough (read: within 60 hours)
Remind me to recheck whether scum can fake dreams and whatnot

Staeg · Post Post #1281 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:05 pm

In post 1278, Equinox wrote:Was your Dream formatted differently?

Yes. It was filled with flavor and specifically said that one of them dudes ain't aligned with the ordinary.

Staeg · Post Post #1284 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:14 pm

In post 1282, Equinox wrote:
In post 1281, Staeg wrote:Yes. It was filled with flavor and specifically said that one of them dudes ain't aligned with the ordinary.

Was it SnakePlissken who sent you this?

Yarp

Staeg · Post Post #1290 (isolation #44) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:34 pm

The thing I got from the inconsistency is maybe a scumteam got a dream and wanted another person to claim it instead of the actual dreamer, but didn't communicate details well enough
The problem with that is that they would at least give SOME background to the dream and whatnot so idk.

Staeg · Post Post #1325 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:40 am

In post 1324, Equinox wrote:Makes more sense to me that he got nervous about all the people jumping on

It wasn't really that - it's just that I wanted counterwagon magic to happen and generally went "okay, so KoC's scum for everything that rach's scum for except there's bonus points"

Staeg · Post Post #1327 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:03 am

Because, as I said, I actually had a scumread on him.

Staeg · Post Post #1496 (isolation #47) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:29 pm

Ughhh this game

I'm completely not-motivated in this game and I don't know what to do and who's scum etc.
I guess lynching me is not the worst that could happen? I'm a VT, as would be semi-obvious by what I've said/done, but yeah
Some of those posts of DV were kinda wrong (1472 in particular) but, seriously, that's the best I can offer in terms of scumhunting :/

Staeg · Post Post #1497 (isolation #48) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:29 pm

I mean, I'm here if anyone has any questions, but otherwise, proceed with murder, I guess?

Staeg · Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:11 am

In post 1498, Equinox wrote:Hrm. Might as well ask this question.

Staeg, since you claimed vanilla, could you answer this: Did you receive confirmation last Night that you'd successfully used your Sleep ability?

Not last night, nor any night, for that matter (obviously I know I used it on the dresm night, but I was never specifically notified of it).

Staeg · Post Post #1570 (isolation #50) » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:23 am

In post 1555, Jarvis wrote:no dream if we no lynch

Also 1/3 living player dreams is fucking retarded. Town autowins 3p lylo if scum killed the night before. Greygnarl is getting into that "hard to tell if town or stupid" area.

Vote: 4nxi3ty

This fucka needs immediate death.

Now that equinox said something... How does 3p become autowin?

Re: anx-scum - I can't really tell town-anx from scum-anx because of two things: for one, when I read some of anx's older games and it felt like the posts were typed up by a cactus (and his play in Artemis Fowl was much the same). The new-and-improved anx, well, I haven't actually seen any of his scum games, but I guess his play uere is similar to that one Team Mafia game?

Staeg · Post Post #1609 (isolation #51) » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:49 pm

I thought that it'd go along the lines of generating a list with x names and then checking if there's at least one scum in there - if yes, mail it to a sleeper, if no, repeat from step 1.

Staeg · Post Post #1615 (isolation #52) » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:00 am

In post 1614, Empking wrote:Yeah, looking at the first posts I don't buy that it's random. If it was random he could have balanced the game as it went along and Quil said that he couldn't.

That's not how it works, though? Why would Quil change the results? It's kinda like deciding which player gets which role, without using the RNG.

Staeg · Post Post #1652 (isolation #53) » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:24 pm

In post 1624, Jarvis wrote:Or you could all stop being fucking stupid.

Jarvis dudebro, how would 3p be autowin or anything like that if the dreams are 1/3?

Staeg · Post Post #1654 (isolation #54) » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:32 pm

Uh, judging by the fact that that's all I posted I either don't have anything else or I don't want to say anything else at this moment. Why the question?

Staeg · Post Post #1660 (isolation #55) » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:57 am

No, N, not that - I'm asking about how would it be autowin.

Re Ggnarl, I have nothing to really add to the dream pool discussion and the jarvis case is... not convincing. I'm not sure I can read jarvis for jack squat, but I'd currently peg him as slightly leaning town. I wouldn't cry TOO much if he died, but yeah, um, I'm in no position to judge.

Staeg · Post Post #1698 (isolation #56) » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:29 am

Uh, I can do this, I guess? I don't have a townread on rach and even though she's not PM, she's not all that much of an asset to the town atm (no pots&kettles pls)

Staeg · Post Post #1731 (isolation #57) » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:00 pm

Yeah okay now I'm pretty confident rach's scum.

Staeg · Post Post #1742 (isolation #58) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:57 pm

So basically everyone except for grey and pereV?

vote DV

, but N's not all THAT far from it.

Staeg · Post Post #1754 (isolation #59) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:18 am

Nacho, why are perev and ggnarl conftown via dreams (they probably are due to play, but)?

Staeg · Post Post #1763 (isolation #60) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:53 pm

In post 1762, petapan wrote:that people wouldn't lynch her jeez

She claimed it after she was hammered... and another 2 votes on top.

Staeg · Post Post #1833 (isolation #61) » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:48 am

Can someone summarise the Anx case, please?

Staeg · Post Post #1834 (isolation #62) » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:57 am

No, actually, can Jarvis summarise the Anx case?

Staeg · Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:12 am

So I'm not touching the anx wagon with a 60-foot stick and am now leaning more heavily towards a Jarvis lynch

Staeg · Post Post #1951 (isolation #64) » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:28 am

Alright, so I'm kinda decently sure that Shiidaji (so empking, too, I guess) is town, but this leaves me with Nacho and Peta

I don't think I can actually separate the nacho-town waves from the nacho-scum waves, but SSJT was kinda not town at all and peta's... Iunno, I just don't think he's scum.

vote: Nacho