Mafia in La-La Land (Game over!)

RachMarie · Post Post #540 (isolation #0) » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:38 pm

Hey all will read up on the game and see where we are.

RachMarie · Post Post #703 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:23 pm

I had work to do including my show tonight. I am beat will respond more tomorrow.

RachMarie · Post Post #728 (isolation #2) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:58 pm

I am still trying to catch up on things in this game and a couple of others. However PM was just recently force-replaced in a game I was on the tail end of. (I was a replacement for Noctis Nox in the last day of the game and was scum in that one and we did win). Open 439 Less Pressure.

I am not sure why he plays the way he does but he could very well be scum. So I am willing to join the rest and vote for him. Something about his play just seems odd and sets off my radar. Meanwhile taking a look at ISOs and see what I can figure once he flips.

VOTE: PM

I think that is L-1 So please give him a chance to respond and claim first.

RachMarie · Post Post #731 (isolation #3) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:07 pm

I am not absolutely sure as in 100% sure Matt, only way I could be that sure is if I were scum. What I meant was if he flips scum, look at ISOs and see who he is connected with. If he flips town though, I will be looking at ISOs and VCA to see who is likely to be scum on his wagon.

Sorry if that was not fully clear in my previous post. It takes me a bit to get a handle on people when I first join a game.

RachMarie · Post Post #733 (isolation #4) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:17 pm

If you have any questions feel free to ask me. I always state to give the person a chance to respond and so on. I have done that since my first game here with as far as I know, one exception where I quickhammered. (I was scum in that game and we needed that quickhammer right then). In general though, I prefer to give the lynchee a chance to speak.

RachMarie · Post Post #734 (isolation #5) » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:19 pm

BTW he is posting in the after game talk in Open 439 so not sure why he can't also post here.

RachMarie · Post Post #880 (isolation #6) » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:13 am

I feel so bad I totally forgot about this game I will read up and cast a vote.

RachMarie · Post Post #901 (isolation #7) » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:40 am

Sounds to me like he is going for an easy lynch.

5 days left? Ok time for some good ol ISO research and a vote.

RachMarie · Post Post #910 (isolation #8) » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:25 pm

Most of the votes on me are for lurking and forgetting this game. Meanwhile in reading through some of the ISOs I have some questions for ya all.

RachMarie · Post Post #911 (isolation #9) » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:41 pm

@ Konowa

Why are you so focused on N and Jarvis? What would you do if both turned out to be town? I think a lot of the pressure on N is the he has been lurking so it is easy to view him as possible scum? As for Jarvis, it seems rather like OMGUS since he has been the most adamant spokesperson for your lynch. Do you have any substantial case on him or is it just because he thinks you are scum?

@ KoC

I can see why some people are sure you are scum. In reading your ISO there is not much there. You post but I have no real clue where you stand on everyone from your posting. Could you give a more updated set of reads?

@ Jarvis

I noticed you have focused mainly on N and Kowona do you have any reads other than that? If they both came up town who would you look at?

@ Bitmap

My forgetting about this game and being lurky is not related to my alignment in the game. I have been prodded recently in a couple of my games. I find your questioning if it is ok to vote for me for a reason that should be a null tell, then voting for me because someone said to very scummy. I plan on spending a bit of time on your ISO to see if it is a one time thing or if I have found my top scumspect.

RachMarie · Post Post #918 (isolation #10) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:02 am

Those were the two you were most focused on Jarvis. Though I am leaning town on you. Your play here is not the same as it was in the other game we were in together... Newbie 1257. So I feel pretty good you are probably town.

RachMarie · Post Post #925 (isolation #11) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:01 pm

I lurk when life is rough. It is a null tell. I can show it in games I have played before. I was lynched in a coupe of games where I was the doc and claimed, and still got lynched. And I really AM sorry I forgot I was in this game. If you guys want me to replace out I will. Though I would like to see it to the end.

Meanwhile I presume that is an alt of yours DV?

@ Pere
Umm look at the vote count? I suddenly went to L-2 like that? Mainly because of inactivity, not because of a real case on me. That sounds like an easy lynch to me.

RachMarie · Post Post #926 (isolation #12) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:08 pm

Newbie 1257

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22578

Newbie 1254

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22401

Was Doc in both and definitely therefore town in both and even after I claimed and there was no CC in both times I was lynched.

Yeah I say I am an easy lynch Pere. Hope that answers your question.

RachMarie · Post Post #929 (isolation #13) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:46 pm

The wagon on my jumped up pretty quick. And it seemed like the main thing you had against me was the not playing. So yeah it put you on my radar.

Obviously NOT everyone on my wagon is scum, but there is a good chance at least a couple of them may very well be scum. I was planning on responding to you earlier but did not want to triple post since that is rather lame, and when I looked again boom I was at L-2.

RachMarie · Post Post #933 (isolation #14) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:17 pm

I am getting a real sense of scumminess on Bitmap too. I want to take a closer look at his ISO and see if it is mainly recent posts or all the way through.

I can see why Blast in reading his ISO.

I will take another look at Konowa, Jarvis.

RachMarie · Post Post #983 (isolation #15) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:36 pm

uggh WTF was that KoC? I was reading through his ISO to figure out what it is everyone sees in him. (Also trying to figure out why the Word comment? I did not see any difference in his posts to indicate he was writing in Word?)

I would prefer a Bitmap wagon, but seems like people have decided KoC.

For the person who has never played with the Jester role before could someone explain it to me?

RachMarie · Post Post #986 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:30 pm

Thanks for explaining it Peta.

RachMarie · Post Post #990 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:58 pm

Yes we do, he lives in Australia so is on during different times from a number of us.

RachMarie · Post Post #997 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:34 am

Hey I am not that much of a newbie

Just never had played with the Jester role before so it confused ms. I have mostly played Newbie and Open games with a few mini and large normals and themes.

It was 3 AM for me I messed up on the time zone and had forgotten about the V/LA and backup mod.

RachMarie · Post Post #1021 (isolation #19) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:49 pm

baaa N

The thing is Peta is correct, the wagon has built up fast and even if we are all sure he is scum, we need to give time for others to respond including the lynchee. Day just started.

RachMarie · Post Post #1043 (isolation #20) » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:40 am

@ N

Fake response?? No I had never heard of that role before and I ended up asking NS what the heck a Jester was.

I have mostly played newbie and open games, and have never seen that particular role before. If you want to make a case on me, at least make it about something real.

Meanwhile

INTENT TO HAMMER Konowa.

Making sure everyone has had a chance to speak first, and Konowa a chance for final words, claim if he so chooses, defense, etc.

RachMarie · Post Post #1046 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:22 am

I know we do, I have used it before. However since NS's computer is like 3 feet away from mine it was easier just to ask WTF is a Jester??

RachMarie · Post Post #1050 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:26 pm

ouch Bit take care of yourself honey. If you need to go V/LA or replace out do so, your health comes first.

Still no response from the lynchee?

RachMarie · Post Post #1097 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:05 am

Is everyone ready for a hammer?

RachMarie · Post Post #1126 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:04 pm

Anyone else have something to say?

@Mod could we have a more recent VC?

RachMarie · Post Post #1204 (isolation #25) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:05 am

This is totally nuts. We are just stalled here. And no mod either

So I am going to assume that the unofficial vote count is correct.

Hammer time.

VOTE: Konowa

RachMarie · Post Post #1210 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:49 am

I was waiting for a VC and for people to have a chance to discuss things. But as Jarvis pointed out, the game was going nowhere. So I hammered.

RachMarie · Post Post #1216 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:17 pm

Snake did say if Quil had not responded by Sat he would step in and mod again til Quil had more time or was I the only one who saw that message?

Well it is Sat.

RachMarie · Post Post #1219 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:35 pm

Well Konowa was my top scumspect. Equinox is my strongest town read.

Have doubts about Notch, but waiting to see what he has to say. basically seems to be an uberlurker

Staeg I feel is likely town, probably Jarvis as well.

N I need to read up more on, but he has said some iffy things. Kimor seems town too.

I will work on getting more comprehensive reads together.

RachMarie · Post Post #1229 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:36 am

No probs with the hydra

RachMarie · Post Post #1243 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:55 pm

I am pretty sure that vig of the undreamt must be a 3 party role like a SK. Especially since it is not green or red.

I will take another look at both N and Seastorm

RachMarie · Post Post #1293 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:20 pm

Wow N

Do you have anything resembling a case? Or just following your scum buds with a vote on me?

@ Peta

I asked because a number of people had not yet spoken and I did not want to hammer without giving everyone a chance to speak, including the lynchee. I almost always do that. I have had people hammer me before I could get back to fill in the blanks or before someone else had a chance to say their peace and it sucks.

4n??? drop a bomb like that and then go away? Again is there anything remotely like a case?

RachMarie · Post Post #1294 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:21 pm

err piece not peace oops.

RachMarie · Post Post #1352 (isolation #33) » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:19 pm

4nx

Yeah I was definitely town in that game (and still got lynched), However it is a bit easier to figure things out in a newbie game that I was in from the beginning , that a much larger and complex game like this one. I am still sorting people out.

@ DV (sheeping much??)

RachMarie · Post Post #1361 (isolation #34) » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:41 pm

Partial reads:

ATM I am going with Jarvis, Peta, Equinoz, Shii, in the town pile

What is up with Sea? Are the mods replacing her? basically she is non- existent.

Which leaves

DV, Staeg, N, Pere, 4NX, and Grey who I need to look at more carefully.

RachMarie · Post Post #1365 (isolation #35) » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:43 pm

I did not vote for KoC because I did not have time to move over to him. I came to check on the game and found out he had already been hammered.

Only reason you should vote for me DV is if you really believe I am scum, or you are trying to put pressure on me for some reason. I do not believe in voting people just to vote them once we are out of RVS. Though I know a number of people do gambits, for the most part it seems to me they fall flat of the goals of the person doing the gambit, or seem so scummy they lead to a mislynch of a townie.

RachMarie · Post Post #1432 (isolation #36) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:33 am

Wait a minute... WHY are you role fishing for a cop Greygnarl?

RachMarie · Post Post #1433 (isolation #37) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:35 am

And apologies all. My dad was rushed to the hospital due to dehydration and temporary kidney failure after his cancer surgery. He is better now.

RachMarie · Post Post #1485 (isolation #38) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:20 pm

Joining the crowd here and admittedly sheeping due to time constraints:

VOTE: Staeg

RachMarie · Post Post #1486 (isolation #39) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:21 pm

Has Sea just forgotten she is in this game? Granted with both mods being limited on time we have not had a good record on prodding.

RachMarie · Post Post #1490 (isolation #40) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:34 pm

Well I know she has been having issues in other games but she seemed to be still playing. Probably got prodded more in those.

Anyways my dad is back home and is doing better after the emergency visit to the ER and ICU for his kidneys shutting down after his surgery for cancer on Oct 11 so hopefully I will be more in stride again. He got dehydrated and was not eating enough. The funny part is they have given him THC (yes the main ingredient in pot) pills which are legal by the feds to help him with eating and drinking more.

Pedit

@ Gamma could you like use a cattle prod on Sea or get her replaced? almost 40 days is kinda ridiculous?

RachMarie · Post Post #1622 (isolation #41) » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:42 am

@ Empking

Do you have something like a case against Jarvis? Or just putting someone at L-1 cause of gut?

RachMarie · Post Post #1631 (isolation #42) » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:45 am

I believe it is set up with if then statements and rules. Of course this is the first time I have played this setup so I am not sure of all the dynamics.

@ Grey

Really dude calm down a tad there is no reason to be so virulent about the game....

The reason I asked Empking was to get a handle on Emp's alignment not anything to do with Jarvis. I am always suspicious of people who just put a vote (especially L-1 or the hammer) without anything else to say such as reasons or a case.

RachMarie · Post Post #1661 (isolation #43) » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:52 am

@ N

In post 1631, RachMarie wrote:
I believe it is set up with if then statements and rules. Of course this is the first time I have played this setup so I am not sure of all the dynamics
.

@ Grey

Really dude calm down a tad there is no reason to be so virulent about the game....

The reason I asked Empking was to get a handle on Emp's alignment not anything to do with Jarvis. I am always suspicious of people who just put a vote (especially L-1 or the hammer) without anything else to say such as reasons or a case.

I guess you missed that part so bolding it for you.

I can see the case for Jarvis, based on the dream sequence. I feel the dreams are decided in a rather complicated manner to insure no one, not even the mod can tamper with them. so based on that I will join the crowd...

VOTE: Jarvis

This is again L-1 DO NOT hammer without giving intent and giving Jarvis a chance to claim and so on.

RachMarie · Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:45 am

Going with Grey's dream analysis DV

So Pere what do you think of the dream analysis then?

RachMarie · Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:01 am

In post 1552, greygnarl wrote:
In post 758, Jarvis wrote:Hi, I dreamt.

Bitmap, Jarvis, PV, DV,
KoC
,
Konowa
, N.

At least one of the above is scum. More in a moment.
I'm pretty sure that if Jarvis is scum then at least one more person in that pool is scum. If Jarvis flips scum then N would be cleared because of him being in my pool. I feel like Jarvis used a bit of scumhunting when he entered the game in order to try to coast as a "town leader"

The two dreams with no scum flips are these.

Petapan
Shiidaj
4nxi3ty
Seastorm

Jarvis
DV
N
Staeg

If we believe Staeg then there is at least one scum in each. That's 2/3 of the game so I don't see why we're focusing on my pool so much. At this point a 5 scum game seems pretty likely.

In post 1592, greygnarl wrote:
My dream:

Jarvis

N

Staeg

DV

Staeg's dream:

Nacho
4nx
Shiidaji
Peta

Jarvis's dream:

Greygnarl

N

DV

Jarvis

That dream analysis DV.. plus I went back to find out who Jarvis replaced... he replaced Kondi who when I did my initial read of the game seemed his scum self not his town self.

RachMarie · Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:29 am

He is in two of the three dreams and we are going on the basis that there is at least one scum in each dream?

I need to take a good ISO look at the ones in Staeg's dream though since that one does not fit either of the other two dreams...

RachMarie · Post Post #1673 (isolation #47) » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:05 pm

at least one kinda indicates it can be more than one?

meanwhile I want to look at the middle dream more carefully.

RachMarie · Post Post #1675 (isolation #48) » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:36 pm

So Nacho replaced Sea and Empking replaced Shii... hmm will take a look at the ISOs there though more closely. I have a fairly strong read of town on Peta.

@ Mod could you update the player's list on page 1? Thanks ♥

Kay. -Party Boat

Pedit
DV I found his predecessor (Kondi) scummy and he (Jarvis) does seem rather defensive.

RachMarie · Post Post #1700 (isolation #49) » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:53 am

Am I at L-1?

P

lease give me a chance to claim before lynching me thank you.

@Nacho there is another time I tend to be more lurky save for my first game Newbie 1206... Not to mention

R

eal Life has been a pain lately

RachMarie · Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:00 am

In post 1698, Staeg wrote:Uh, I can do this, I guess? I don't have a townread on rach and even though she's not PM, she's not all that much of an asset to the town atm (no pots&kettles pls)

Scum points for being wishy washy here.

To answer your question about where are those ISOs Nacho, I was offline for a while sorting out my ISP. The net is now back on. So I have not yet looked at it.

RachMarie · Post Post #1734 (isolation #51) » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:28 pm

9 votes??? I just got back home was gone for quite some time. BTW I did not SAY I was at L-1 I was asking if I was and I wanted an intent to hammer when I was so I could claim oh well.

I guess I am hammered....

Good Job Town. BTW yes I am a PR.. I am the Sleep Therapist and I have the ability to see if one person is sleeping, kinda like a watcher.

Thanks for letting me fill in and sorry things have been so rough that I did not have more time to focus on this game

(Bah post) .

RachMarie · Post Post #2136 (isolation #52) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:58 pm

So why did you bus me so hard Nacho

lol

good job everyone

and a big KUDOS to my fellow scum mates you ROCKED ♥

RachMarie · Post Post #2137 (isolation #53) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:02 pm

I am glad we won anyways I would have played it differently if I had known that Equinox had not slept

RachMarie · Post Post #2140 (isolation #54) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:02 pm

aww thanks ♥

and LOL

TBH I totally forgot who Nacho replaced til later then I realized ohhhh he uber bussed me ROFL

RachMarie · Post Post #2143 (isolation #55) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:23 pm

LOL he is not always scum I have been in several games with him when he was town.

RachMarie · Post Post #2146 (isolation #56) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:36 pm

Well TBF it has been a pretty rough time for me lately

I would have been V/LA if you had not bussed me like I was elsewhere.

For those who were not aware my dad died the sunday before Thanksgiving and NS and I spent 2 weeks in his apartment boxing everything up.