Mafia Behind the Maiden (Game over!)

[Hinduragi]

YOU GET BACK ACROSS THAT LINE RIGHT NOW

[Hinduragi]

SERIOUSLY FALLING FOR SOME <3's WHEN THEYRE REAL BUT AT THE SAME TIME A LIE. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.

[Hinduragi]

Vote: Uberninja

What were your results?

[Hinduragi]

Scum almost certainly are from more than one nation as they offed MoI over LLD.

[Hinduragi]

Actually, I was looking back on that to double check. Nikanor read needs explaining. Now.

[Hinduragi]

Nikanor is from Crimea.

It's no less protown than your constant stream of useless babble. *shrug*


I want to hear from the people who are still on Nexus but have been mostly quiet since his claim... Namely, Dupe, LLD, and Hippos.

How have I been quiet?

I have been trying to tell you to stop being stupid and get back on Nexus. I am 100% positive you correctly analyzed his claim the first time. Whether it's a safe claim Ike or not, he's doing his best to draw a CC and net scum some kind of kill.

In a game where scum have a win condition that involves specific players being dead, AND is heavy on flavor, why is it wrong to say that maybe they think one of their targets could be a doctor-ish role?

Even if my theory above is wrong, his claim was still bullshit. A Crimean Doctor makes NO sense. Crimean BODYGUARD, maybe.

No Tierce, I should not be there.

How many times do I need to say this.

NIKANOR.

IS.

TOWN.

FUCKIN... WHY CAN'T I USE MY RED TRUTH ANYMORE ASDGGDAIFDIAFOD

Ok. So, assuming false positives, how is Nikanor this much 100% confirmed town?

[Hinduragi]

LLD, please claim Nik's country.

Please also explain why you treated Nik as confirmed innocent despite supposedly

KNOWING

that there are false-positives/negatives, given your OWN country.


Trying to work my head around this. I'm inclined to believe LLD, but I want some answers first.

And I missed the second part of this, but:

I am treating him as confirmed town because that's how I treat Cop Innos until I have a reason not to (see: Late game). I don't lynch innos when there are other things abound.

Didn't read this part. Disregard above. Reads weak, though.

[Hinduragi]

Glork, tell me why we are killing UN? I mean, I wanted him SO SO SO SO SO dead Days 1 and 2.

But like, his result was EXACTLY the same as mine. Can you explain why this is?

I actually believe he's confirmed town to me, (as unfortunate as this is).

If I was scum, and know that someone on my team used an ability on "X", who is a VT, and knew this netted me brownie points AND might get them mislynched, I would like the rage of the GODS ABOVE claim that result in a heartbeat. No doubt about it. Clear myself AND get my mislynch out? Hells yes.

[Hinduragi]

welp. didn't know dana was town. lol

unvote

tho, cause i feel bad and i keep thinking of the look singer gave me on the beach twice in a row...

i really am town guys, fuck. lol

Oh no, self vote didn't make me look townier. Lol.

I'm going to make sure you die today. Lol.

[Hinduragi]

Unvote

I promise as soon as they post, this hammer is going down like lightning. Even if I'm not home, I'll borrow someone's phone and post just to end his life. But first things first since I remembered. I want TSH to claim results.

[Hinduragi]

I will lynch you here and now if I didn't want TSH's result. At this point, I could care less if you are town or scum.

[Hinduragi]

Also, if you suspected Tierce so much, you think you would've tracked her. But nope.

[Hinduragi]

At this point, it's within my wincon's best interest. It has nothing to do with my personal thoughts.

[Hinduragi]

The faster you die, the easier it becomes to get to actual lynches, removes the doubt of "do we seriously have town performing this badly", and allows me to get that much closer to a flame-free game instead of one that's infested with the stuff.

[Hinduragi]

Also, if you suspected Tierce so much, you think you would've tracked her. But nope.

yep. please refer to post 3648...

re: targeting dana.... I didn't know / am lazy / wasn't paying attention / forgot / etc.

You're kidding, right?

[Hinduragi]

I'll put this straight. I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt, ever, when you forget/become lazy/don't pay attention to your #1 scum read when you have an investigative role.

[Hinduragi]

and

I didn't forget about Tierce

, and I probably got blocked anyway based on the fucking flavor I got

so what the fuck does it matter who I targeted

Now we're talking. Why did you target Dana?

[Hinduragi]

and

I didn't forget about Tierce

, and I probably got blocked anyway based on the fucking flavor I got

so what the fuck does it matter who I targeted

Now we're talking. Why did you target Dana?

because i was unaware that he was apparently confirmed town

somebody explain this shit to me good. who's fucking confirmed town so i can know not to track them

shit, it's not that hard. somebody make a list. fuck

If you're looking, this is a good example of dodging a question. There isnt an explanation at all but rather an excuse without assuming Dana was a good target in the first place. Yes, I understand that the context isn't 100% clear, but this and other little things like it have been building up all game into what defines UN's behavior as scummy.

[Hinduragi]

and

I didn't forget about Tierce

, and I probably got blocked anyway based on the fucking flavor I got

so what the fuck does it matter who I targeted

Now we're talking. Why did you target Dana?

because i was unaware that he was apparently confirmed town

somebody explain this shit to me good. who's fucking confirmed town so i can know not to track them

shit, it's not that hard. somebody make a list. fuck

If you're looking, this is a good example of dodging a question.

hey genius:

Also, if you suspected Tierce so much, you think you would've tracked her. But nope.

yep. please refer to post 3648...

re: targeting dana.... I didn't know / am lazy / wasn't paying attention / forgot / etc.

and this was asked by you, and answered by me.

so suck it, trebek.

suck it long, and suck it hard

There isnt an explanation at all but rather an excuse without assuming Dana was a good target in the first place. Yes, I understand that the context isn't 100% clear, but this and other little things like it have been building up all game into what defines UN's behavior as scummy.

so i'm scummy for all the little subtle things about my play instead of the glaringly obvious things that glork/tierce have been pushing for 2 days

hahahahaahahaha ok

[Hinduragi]

I don't want to play in this game anymore.

[Hinduragi]

Vote: UN

TSH can fakeclaim their results from N3 and N4 tomorrow since they can't understand how promptly this day needed to go by.

[Hinduragi]

I've been thinking about this and today is a good day for a massclaim, especially with the no kill.

[Hinduragi]

What part of the TAMMY CONFIRMATION did I fuck up? The fuck is this? I was TOLD it would be a good idea and if she would EVER fucking suicide, I'm outta here like PEACE and I'll live in a world of rainbows and sunshine AND she'll be confirmed town forever and ever.

[Hinduragi]

...........


THIS GAME.

My ability is on her 24/7 for THE REST OF THE GAME.

It doesn't matter WHEN she uses her ability, I DIE. That's that, no if's, but's, and everything else.

[Hinduragi]

The point was to confirm she actually used her ability, thus confirming her as town.

[Hinduragi]

What part of the TAMMY CONFIRMATION did I fuck up? The fuck is this? I was TOLD it would be a good idea and if she would EVER fucking suicide, I'm outta here like PEACE and I'll live in a world of rainbows and sunshine AND she'll be confirmed town forever and ever.

You were told to use your ability at NIGHT when she would be theoretically out of the game and thus your attempt should've failed; thus proving her ability. You used it during the DAY when she wasn't using her ability and thus it told us nothing.

We don't know the NAR at all. I could be a lover to her when she's out of the game, and then she could come back in. If I'm already there beforehand, then fuck it, it's 100% confirmation.

[Hinduragi]

Vote: GI

I'm down.

Also, DDD, you misread the plan or misunderstand it somehow. She's still confirmed town if she uses it and I die. My ability is that I'm now a one-way lover to her. When she uses it, I should still die no matter what.

[Hinduragi]

So when/if she uses it, I'm dead. That's all and well. You're missing the part where she hasn't used it. There was no "Hindu fucked up the plan". If we both used our abilities at night and pre-planned the confirmation, I would've said my last words on D2 or whatever and scum would have a chance of roleblocking either of us and making shit hit the fan. If it was pre-planned what night we BOTH used our abilities, then it's flawed.

[Hinduragi]

DDD, if it was pre-planned, there could've been all sorts of role interaction that could've compromised any results we had. I really don't think the right approach was "ok, let's decide to use action 1 and 2 on N2/N3 and see what happens".

And I have no idea. Is Nailah a part of the Apostles Army or not?

[Hinduragi]

I want to hear what everyone thinks of massclaim. Only Gamma had any input on it.

[Hinduragi]

Yeah, it's a last ditch effort to save me. That's why I'd totally do it after Glork voted for me.

Sweetie, don't be Tim Eater.

So can he post or not?

[Hinduragi]

If it's Ashera's judgement, then he should've been turned to stone on the last VC, right?

[Hinduragi]

The blue number was the same. And it says she comes in and just instantly turns everyone to stone from Beorc and Laguz(which would obviously be broken as fuck as a game mechanic).

[Hinduragi]

Anyways, flavor aside, like GI said, I doubt this is random regardless of the flavor behind it.

And to that sense, I am at a giant fucking loss to why Glork was targeted, reputation aside.

[Hinduragi]

On that note, it's not Tierce. You've got to be 100% fucking retarded to lurk-read along with a day phase, use your ability on someone, then come in and start discussing it.

[Hinduragi]

Anyways, flavor aside, like GI said, I doubt this is random regardless of the flavor behind it.

And to that sense, I am at a giant fucking loss to why Glork was targeted, reputation aside.

He said he knew a scum role name? Maybe?

Also, I'm considering the possibility this was a alternative action from a scum night kill. Depending on this powers duration.

Opinions?

Uhhh, I think it's more likely they have some sort of multi-action ability but their NK was directly blocked/neutralized via a town action. Hence why I wanted massclaim specifically at the start of today.

And I dont know. It's almost guaranteed that scum have fakeclaims(or at least it can't be hard if you're scum to just look one up that's fairly likely to not be in use), so their role name is really useless and seems minor(but I guess not?).

And no. If I had a super cool role, I wouldn't breadcrumb this dumb role when I don't even know the Vi mod meta of the joke role.

[Hinduragi]

I'm almost certain the petrification is a single day phase, and maybe a night phase too. It seems broken to make it last any longer.

[Hinduragi]

Katsuki and GI have been at each other's throats since D1 or D2. And I really don't think Katsuki is scum.

[Hinduragi]

>implying that scum cant fakebus/fakerage at each other
>you dont think katsuki is scum JUST CUZ

okay hindu

Pretty sure I can read Katsuki. Sure, it could be planned, but that's assuming GI and Kats couldn't come up with better, which would be really sad and terrible.

[Hinduragi]

I mean.

He's not from Daein.

And I've almost-positively identified the ROLENAME of one of the remaining scumbags.

And Kats isn't that particular ROLENAME.



Soooo. I don't see a reason to elaborate further.

Yes. He definitely brought the hammer down on Kats, alright.

[Hinduragi]

>implying that scum cant fakebus/fakerage at each other
>you dont think katsuki is scum JUST CUZ

okay hindu

Pretty sure I can read Katsuki. Sure, it could be planned, but that's assuming GI and Kats couldn't come up with better, which would be really sad and terrible.

What would be better?

Your logic is

>I can read Kat
>They went at each other real good so its not fake
>I assume they couldnt come up with better thats why
>Forgetting implied sentiment of how good they "went at it"

Seems a little contradictory there, Hinds.

If I was going to scumgambit from D1 into the rest of the game, I sure as hell wouldn't come up with "double-bus on each other". And I don't even know what you're talking about with contradictory, except that you've lost your touch this game. What would be better is... - Kats claims PGO D1. GI bus's everyone but himself and Kats to death cause fuck them, they would've died anyways. GI calls out Kats on PGO around now or D6, claims he was RB'd the next day after avoiding the question on purpose earlier, and gets lynched. Even with an SK, Kats is pretty much riding to LyLo, and it's sure a hell of a lot better than "lol, let's bus each other". Usually, as scum, you bus just because you want to/should and keep going to make it look real. If that's a pre-planned gambit, not only is it a bad one but it's a dumb one.

Yeah, the example gambit is eh, but it's better than that one and it's just an on-the-spot example.

Katsuki is a dumb scum option at this point. Defending that isn't going to change it.

[Hinduragi]

Jesus Christ can I go to bed without looking at you people derping left and right?

TSH CLAIMED BODYGUARD. THEY CC'D NEXUS.

Get your claims lined up. This is painful.

Regardless, TSH has been shitty for ANY role they're trying to play. Especially yesterday.

[Hinduragi]

TSH, AV, you need to stop waiting on your hydra head to confirm everything with each other. While it makes sure no dissonance happens, I'd rather have SOMEONE here representing the slot and getting input and groundwork laid down than this. Because this is unacceptable bullshit.

[Hinduragi]

You can follow up with a kill, throw off the town night actions and influence them, hope town assumes things about the petrification and changes course of action/lets it influence the day game, etc.

[Hinduragi]

Alc, are you a day neighbor with Glork or something?

........What the fuck?

[Hinduragi]

That's more of a "where the fuck did that just come from and why" than anything else. Sure, ANYONE could be neighbors with Glork because of his role, but that is really specific and weird.

[Hinduragi]

Hello Rhinox.

[Hinduragi]

What about the night before that? And why DDD over our confirmed town player? Why DDD instead of anyone else?

[Hinduragi]

Just stopping in to say Pere is out of action for a while, I have THINGS to say but I just want to run them past him first.

Nope cause this.

[Hinduragi]

Also my personal feelings for TimEater have nothing to do with my alignment. He'd still be a shitty player were I scum.

That's the only reason I haven't unvoted. Your rage on Nexus was fake as fuck but that shit at the top of the page this post is on, if we're still on that page, that was true glory to read through. You may not be good at faking your rage, but damn, when it's real, it's a pretty fucking good read.

[Hinduragi]

I have one question. How the FUCK did you forget to tell us YOU COULD CONFIRM ROLENAMES when we've been explicitly telling people NOT to nameclaim them?

Unvote

[Hinduragi]

No, we told even claimed people to never nameclaim because it was unnecessary. We didn't know it was confirmable via PM. Noone else has any rolenames in their PM',s I think.

[Hinduragi]

Hoooooly shit, I just figured it out. YOU guys activate Grey's shit, don't you. Hellll yes. Scum should be fucking afraid now.

[Hinduragi]

Are you for real or not? Yes or no.

[Hinduragi]

Time, why would GreyScum = TSH scum? Explain that crooked logic to me because it weighs heavily on how much I believe your CC.

I dont like the connections you've been implying with Grey. Can you perhaps restate a few things concerning your role interactions with Grey and the name Sanaki?

I've implied no connections, what are you smoking?

All I've said is that we know Sanaki is in the game and that our BG works on her.
Given the town is the APOSTLE'S ARMY, the role (Apostle Sanaki) HIGHLY suggests that whoever has that role is town aligned.
Grey claimed the role, hence I wanted to stop him being lynched because at the time there was no reason to doubt that Grey was telling the truth.

Work with me here because I am more likely to believe that GreyICE was trying to draw the CC or get himself off the hook, than you (as scum) are giving yourself a death warrant.


NOW
As for the idea that scum must kill only the country leaders.

How many leaders (or "important people") are left alive, do we think? If there's ONLY Sanaki, then this could very well be an Alchemist scumgambit. But that would still not account for the missing kill. Given that Alch claimed the block on GI, in the scenario where it was a scumgambit to CC, it suggests Alch KNEW Grey was Sanaki (if the RB claim was to try to get GI lynched). In which case, why not just shoot GI last night?

Ok. I'll outline TSH's position.

Either 1.) they're dumb fucking retarded, went ALL IN on their partner who fished for a CC as he was going down, AND did this AFTER CC'ing their OWN SCUM LEADER or 2.) they're some bodyguard role looking for a town leader. You tell me what's more likely. It's not rocket science.

[Hinduragi]

Tierce, are you still here? Know of any games where Vi went bastardmode and put the same rolename on two different town roles/fakeclaims/scum roles? Cause it's either this or scum just ran out of fakeclaims.

Also, I need someone to outline flavor for me because I seriously haven't played a single minute of this game my entire life. How many leaders are dead and how many should there be/do you think there are/are left?

[Hinduragi]

I never underestimate stupidity when it comes to scum. But yeah, you're point is legit. TBH I'm doing a lot of skimming this game and didn't really read the specifics of what he said. Lynch Grey with me dude. He is the lynch today.

Covering all my bases. If Glork was alive and we made a game changing play that lost us the game, I'd never hear the end of that shit postgame and beyond.

[Hinduragi]

its not an issue of fakeclaims hindu, if grey is scum its very clearly attempting to bait the cc of a kill target.

Pretty sure if scum had a town leader fakeclaim, they wouldve pulled it at this point. No other claim would save their life anyways.

[Hinduragi]

If GI is scum I don't really think it makes sense for me to be scum based on your argument TSH, if you think through what all just happened.

Wow. Just wow.

What game are you playing in?

[Hinduragi]

And no, we sure as hell aren't postponing shit. We're deciding here and now and lynch Grey is where every clue points to. His post reads pure caught scum flailing.

[Hinduragi]

There's nothing left for this.

Dice are on the table. My money is on snake eyes. All in.

Vote: GI

[Hinduragi]

This. A thousand times this.

UN is the ONLY play today.

DDD still needs to die die die.

I don't give a fuck about role name

. At all. But claiming MAGICAL HAPPY PILLS is ballsacks.

Grey, you mise well claim everything but name.

Abilities, country, targets, etc.

Because right now, you're p much lynch fodder.

Nah bro.

Don't feel like it.

So fuck off.

If you really think I'm scum come out and say it.

P.S. Honey, I mean this in the nicest possible way. No, fuck you.

I assume Vi is a troll, and he was Tarhalindur with a fakeclaim of Ike. Tarhalindur, for those who don't do Vi games, is always in a Vi game, always non-town, and always has a bevy of ridiculous power roles. Plus he gets a fakeclaim even if you don't get fakeclaims (see: Team Mafia).

I bet Ike was their best damn fakeclaim.

Uber, Oman was a counterwagon to Nexus. That drops his scum points quite a bit, and if DDD is scum he's basically confirmed town.

I want to say something but I don't know if it will actually be helpful for the town to know :\

if you can say it without name-claiming I'd guess it's worth saying since you just claimed

*haz vague informationz*

I am admittedly stupid tired right now though so maybe wait for other people's opinions too?

Well it is a suspicion and nothing concrete.

Probably not going to say it until later in the game provided I live long enough.

95% certain this is why oversoul died btw. greyice/nexus could have also wanted him dead but even if they are scum I think it would have been more of an additional reason than one of them killing oversoul solely because of his suspicions on them.

Did you just admit to going on a fishing expedition on Oversoul's role, then shooting him when you thought you had a nibble?

Seriously, the 'this is totes why X happened' posts are not townie.

Btw, Oversoul is the guy who asked me to replace in. Even if I was scum, I'd never shoot the guy who asked me to replace in day 1 (cop investigate, sure, but not shoot). Give me a few points for class.

[Hinduragi]

If Tim was actually dumb enough to be pulling a drshotty on the entire town, my vote would not be on GreyIce.

[Hinduragi]

Also, based on what Gamma said in that quote, the Oversoul kill is pretty huge.

95% certain this is why oversoul died btw. greyice/nexus could have also wanted him dead but even if they are scum I think it would have been more of an additional reason than one of them killing oversoul solely because of his suspicions on them.

[Hinduragi]

At this stage I'm trying to think if there are two Sanakis--but in the flavor the actual Apostle was Micaiah, not another Sanaki.



Alchemist, please. Claim the flavor description of your ability via paraphrasing.

Been there. K, so then scum would have to kill them both even though she only appears on the list once. Which is lol but it's not a misplay unless we wait, let TSH decide his night action, potentially fucking up the game, then we're literally fucked, at least on the subject of Sanaki, anyways. Right play is to lynch GI because odds point to him being a lying commie scumbag than anything else and he's flailing on top of it all.

[Hinduragi]

If GI is scum I don't really think it makes sense for me to be scum based on your argument TSH, if you think through what all just happened.

Wow. Just wow.

What game are you playing in?

I don't speak in code. If you have something to say to me say it. I'm not going to hold your hand.

Try to play a part in this game. Benmage has done more.

[Hinduragi]

If you can't handle the pressure of the hammer, let me know and I can unvote.

[Hinduragi]

If GI is scum I don't really think it makes sense for me to be scum based on your argument TSH, if you think through what all just happened.

Wow. Just wow.

What game are you playing in?

I don't speak in code. If you have something to say to me say it. I'm not going to hold your hand.

Try to play a part in this game. Benmage has done more.

Fuck you I am trying today don't be a dick.

Make a statement I can actually interact with instead of 4192 which says nothing at all. Do you think I am scum? Do you think I am town? Don't make stupid fucking empty bullshit comments like you did that only keep inflating the pagecount.

The one thing you came back for was to defend yourself from a random scum accusation in the midst of Sanaki vs. Sanaki. Im not being a dick. Im not even sure if you've read the game. I can't tell what you are. Right now you're just a slot. You replaced for Oman, who was a scum counterwagonand I was definitely one of the people pushing for the lynch, but that's about all that's left. This day has been huge in terms of the game. I shouldn't be someone you're looking to interact with in a 1v1 and whatnot when I've already made this many posts about today.

[Hinduragi]

It's likely there were 5 anyways. That's why I said TSH would've been ALL IN if he had been defending GI, because they'd be the last two on the scumteam.

[Hinduragi]

Tierce, you dont have the balls to hammer.

Don't be a dick.

[Hinduragi]

That's Cymbaline. It's an enormous fireball. Seriously folks.

Alchemist is still town despite his decision to be the town hero by counterclaiming me. I get it. You get "DA SCUMZ" lynched, you get night killed when you're a minor character, you're the hero of the game. WEEE. *sigh*

Town win percentages would be so much better if players like Tim and UberNinja would fucking play decent mafia rather than trying to be superheros.

Gamma/Benmage scumteam 2012. That's my reads. And they both need to die.

You're already lynched. Say hi to Spyrex for me.

[Hinduragi]

Well, I'm Sanaki.

TimEater remains terrible.

Ok.

[Hinduragi]

Dear Tierce, Hindu, and other fags who discredited my D1 read,

Go kindly fuck yourselves.

Love,
Katsuki

Dear Katsuki,

You've been uselessly lurking and I still don't trust your reads for shit. GI was damn obvious before and during all of D5.

Love, Hindu

[Hinduragi]

Reading the Benmage claim on his role name and color. Still catching up because I havent been home.

I'll go ahead and claim my country, though, because I really don't think it can do much harm and I know for a fact what country I'm from due to my role pm flavor. My country is Begnion and my color is blue. Still reading so not sure what kind of help that gives us but we'll see. I also havent checked the OP for country's and their respective colors.

[Hinduragi]

Just popping in to say 1.) what the fuck and 2.) I'm here in case LLD posts anytime tonight.

[Hinduragi]

Just popping in to say 1.) what the fuck and 2.) I'm here in case LLD posts anytime tonight.

What are you wtf-ing?

The fact that 3 people got modkilled and that Alchemist died. Yes, I felt the need to post it here because I literally was about to post, got ninja'd by the Vi lock, and then saw that, and walked around my room yelling "what the fuck" around 30 times while I thought on it.

[Hinduragi]

Basically Rhinox confirms your role's information about false positives and negatives.

[Hinduragi]

I trust Tammy enough that you can kill me in her place or something if you'd like to CONFIRM her role. Cause fuck that shit. That's complete fucking scumbag motivation if I've ever seen it. Tammy is town. Basically, we have TWO BP town's right now unless scum are going to try and kill me instead of risking the double which I would also be just as fine with.

I have already drawn up a preliminary list of lynch (and potential investigation) targets. I will have some instructions for LLD once Ludi and DDD check in (in the event that I die), as well as some guidelines for the rest of the town. I'll then have people double-check my work, and we should be well on the road to victory.

Might as well come out with them because I've been thinking about the exact same thing. I'm not getting brainwashed, or letting anyone else get brainwashed for that matter, into losing what should be an easy win, especially when you take leader position at this point in the game. Hell no.

[Hinduragi]

While I get that this is closing in on the size of a Mini now, there are still people sitting on the sidelines chilling.

2. Teleporting Speed Hippos
3. Debonair Danny DiPietro
6. Gammagooey
7. Glork
9. Hinduragi
11. Katsuki
12. Lady Lambdadelta
13. Magister Ludi
17. Nikanor
22. singersigner
24. Tammy
25. Tierce
26. ToastyToast
29. danakillsu

Dana, you're confirmed town this game. You should be ashamed of yourself. Nikanor needs death. Imminent world-ending death. Toast might as well be on the same square foot of land when it hits him because he's right there. DDD is another one of these slots but less so in my mind. If the game's still going, Glork/Gamma/singer/ML is where the rainbow ends. Glork is there for the paranoia lynch but trust your gut if you have to make a choice between him and someone else if it's, let's say, LyLo. The rest are there for the "slightly town but not very much so and is the last scum" lynch. Everyone outside of them, minus TSH because I don't trust them for some reason, is ok.

That's how I want to see the ahead days pan out. I could lay out more but the last few days of a game are never going to go as planned, especially if the plan is complicated. I'm down for lynching any of Nikanor/Toast/DDD today. Don't have any qualms with either of the 3, but I do prefer Nikanor. A lot.

[Hinduragi]

And, actually, that makes a fuckton of sense if you look at the blue numbers. When they got tri-modkilled, the numbers went up by 10 or 11.

[Hinduragi]

The only thing I learned from this conversation is that arrow above Vi on that infographic is hilarious with regards to the fact it basically tells me "You are here".

Vote: Nikanor

I really want to see this.

Also, if I am going to die or am in danger of it today, I would like it to be thrown out there. At least then I know how I should be playing, what I should be doing, etc. I've already decided how I want to go out in this game.

[Hinduragi]

I'd rather see what happens with one more night with our country cops and go for someone I don't want in this game rather than gamble on the one we know is going to die out of the two anyways.

[Hinduragi]

The more Nikanor posts the more I want him dead. The fact he's made it this far is an accomplishment.

[Hinduragi]

Can you both fucking take my word on it that you're both town so we can move on. If I flip town, at any point in this game, that's the condition. You can't vote for each other. Ever.

[Hinduragi]

Can you both fucking take my word on it that you're both town so we can move on. If I flip town, at any point in this game, that's the condition. You can't vote for each other. Ever.

You both can vote me if you really want to fucking go at each other's throats.


Glork's plan is ehhhh, because Nikanor/Toasty should definitely come before singer.

[Hinduragi]

Like, I really don't think lynching one of LLD/DDD should be what we do today. I just don't and I can't really explain why.

[Hinduragi]

DDD is town. If he isn't, I'll take full responsibility for this loss.

[Hinduragi]

Feh. The lynch DDD plan is really only "fool-proof" if DDD is scum or LLD is the

only

scumbag remaining... which I am not willing to put my money on.

I think we really do have to examine both players and buckle down and sort out which one is the actual scumbag.

I still think we should consider the possibility they're both town and take our time with it.

[Hinduragi]

Feh. The lynch DDD plan is really only "fool-proof" if DDD is scum or LLD is the

only

scumbag remaining... which I am not willing to put my money on.

I think we really do have to examine both players and buckle down and sort out which one is the actual scumbag.

I still think we should consider the possibility they're both town and take our time with it.

So you think that there three protown roles which can find the countries of other players? Have you even read Dana's posts? Or my Post 4904?

I've read them both. And you can sure as hell bet I'd be all "let's do dis" if I was scum so that argument is fucking retarded and I don't want to see that kind of shitstain hanging above my head as some sort of dumb threat.

[Hinduragi]

So, anyways, with the way Vi is making these VC's, I'm PRETTY fucking sure this one was for the blue number and that alone. Probably something to do with an action of some sort. Either way, when those three got themselves modkilled, it went up by 10 or 11 as well. I really don't think we're done seeing that blue number so just make sure you're aware of this.

[Hinduragi]

I did A, B, half of D, and I'm town.

Plus this game's D1 was really just a bunch of nothing if I had to put a word to it. I don't know. I wasn't interested, even in the slightest, until I forced myself to start posting and becoming involved so I could help us get somewhere.

[Hinduragi]

In fact, if ANYONE should be getting flak for the Oman thing, if I remember right, it should be me. I was probably the largest supporter of the wagon.

[Hinduragi]

Alright, so Ive been going around...and just what the fuck. I fucking told you. It's time to lynch someone. I REALLY don't think it should be DDD or LLD but I will compromise if it means appeasing these fucking numbers. Fuck that mechanic.

Vote: Ludi

Nikanor DOES need to die. If I ever die at any point in this game, I want the lynches to go somewhat like this:
Nikanor, Ludi/Toast, Katsuki/Singer, Gamma/Glork, and if none of those worked, we're going to fucking lose.

[Hinduragi]

Vote: DDD.

Hindu on a scale of 1-10 how disappointed are you going to be at the end of the game when you see that I'm town?
I'm hoping for like an 8 at least.

My "how many fucks I give" for this game is actually pretty low, partly due to how the game attitude has been and how the game has played out, and especially given this random ass mechanic and D6's end.

[Hinduragi]

I've been in europe for the past ~11 days. I don't really have time for this game, or any, but replacing out of the behemoth is not something I could do to anyone. I don't think I have actively avoided any game ever in my history here.

I am not scum.

Ludi is town for this post. I'm dead serious.

Unvote

While I'm over here in near-endgame holyshit-this-mechanic crazyland, it's time to get even crazier. I've decided if whatever the numbers predict happens, then it happens. It was going to happen anyways tomorrow or the day after that. All I know is that even I wonder what my gut tells me, especially at times like this in the game. I am sure DDD is town. I can go for a LLD lynch. I will go for anyone else on the first half of the list too. And you know what? Fuck it. Impending doom? Bring it on. I'm not rushing a lynch.

[Hinduragi]

I mean, beyond me, who actually listens to Grey without discounting his opinions as stupid? Seriously?

Glork? Hindu?

Like, seriously.

Around the time I put all my cards down on Tim, Grey became confirmed scum. There wasn't really a need to listen to any of his shit by then.

You do need to die, and you should recognize this. You not seeing it is what the worrisome part is.

Vote: LLD

[Hinduragi]

Alternatively, we can lynch DDD's self preserving ass.

I can pretty much tell you DDD is 100% town by now. I will bet this game on his alignment if I have to.

[Hinduragi]

And DDD, if you are by some chance scum, then good job and you deserved this win. The rest of the scumteam...not so much.

[Hinduragi]

Please end the Day, someone, anyone. I need the 48h break we're going to get to be able to continue tolerating this.

[Hinduragi]

I don't hammer 100% townreads. I might as well replace out if I'm going to play like that.

[Hinduragi]

Called it. Couldn't clutch the win. Oh well. Not much I could do, really.

LLD, adding more garbage to the crap that was this game was unnecessary. You should really be ashamed for that.

[Hinduragi]

Called it. Couldn't clutch the win. Oh well. Not much I could do, really.

LLD, adding more garbage to the crap that was this game was unnecessary. You should really be ashamed for that.

Ftr, I'm referring to my townreads. I probably wouldn't have lynched LLD this early in the game given the circumstances. Town had no chance of winning this game unless by pure luck we decided to solely go for the two cops, which in the end we did, and knew what the scum wincon was and what stage of the game we were in.

[Hinduragi]

Hindu, I did what was necessary. I was goin to be lynched but for what I did.

I got tierce to swing my way and it went down.

I really don't think so. The rage is what I knew you, as scum, would do for self-preservation as I've seen it before, and if you were town, made you a bad person who doesn't understand how to behave in specific games. Seeing your flailing like that, just like GI's, made me want your blood more. I hated every part of this game and how people were acting. I say someone's a good poster on-site, trying to give out a simple compliment and change the general mood of the game. What happens to me? I got fucking attacked for it. For a compliment to someone. Yes, it's in regards to the site. But it was in-game. Therefore it's definitely game-related. Just the sheer context of that baffles me. I got attacked for complimenting someone. Also, fake rage is really easy to spot. I saw through GI's the entire time and that's what initially got me on him. If we hadn't rushed the day and this game wasn't going the way it was, I think the lynch on you could've changed.

This game was just one of those games. Wasn't fun at all. In the end, I think that's a big part of why we lost too. EVERYONE kept raging, over and over and over and over. It's not even BaM-type rage or any such sort. It's just rage. And that really detracted from the game as a whole.