The game of the year: town won!

[funkybike1]

Here.

[funkybike1]

Waiting for a claim... that's pretty much all we need now..

[funkybike1]

The problem here is that there are simply too many players. It's impossible to tell who's scum.

BTW, I think UberNinja is town. I simply don't see scum playing that way, and the wagon seems sort of forced.

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i don't care about who is on my wagons i care about who the wagon is careening into at 88 mph

you're really incredibly superbly bad at posting, almost as bad as T-bone

but i'll humor you and argue with you for a bit since you're blatantly wrong

nowhere in posting a list did i say those people were scummy or even lurking, just that they hadn't been active and it was my idea that i should read up on them when they have become more active, and hell why not post it in the thread so that people can be reminded who to keep tabs on? you are shitting the bed real hard over something that was essentially a public note. if you legitimately think i'm not posting content, maybe go circlejerk with T-bone and throw names in lists and laugh about how protown you are, but i back up everything i say it's just that the knuckledraggers don't pick up on it

so i guess you live up to your username, really

no, he isn't. his posts are low-effort garbage inflated with things like useless lists to mask the lack of substance, hope this helps

I agree the lists thing is garbage, but a lot of people present their reads in garbage ways. I think his attempts to foster a voting bloc is town motivated, even though I think that is also pointless right now (and not including the right people). Calling someone scum for those reasons is even lazier than you think T-Bone is being.

i had considered that he was just really bad at posting but my biggest problem with him is that his only consideration for calling people town is "writes long posts" which granted is something some who is Really Dumb might think, but it's also a thing I could see scum doing because they're looking to call people town based on easy criterion without really evaluating them, essentially just cutting corners and only arguing with people they see as weak and it's something i could see myself doing as scum which is why i don't like it

fair point about the voting bloc intentions though, i disregarded it because normally i'd think it kind of null but given the voting mechanics this game it makes a little more sense for someone to want to do that so w/e

UNVOTE:

moneybags vote is okay i guess, he seemed mostly trolly to me but also pretty blatantly not trying, i think by the same critera elmo is worse so i'll go back to that lynch

VOTE: elmo

VOTE: Elmo

Spoiler: Why

VOTE: Milk
BAAAAA

VOTE: Mini Lib

Milk dies next

VOTE: izak

VOTE: Uberninja

elmo is still blatantly scum

Na broski its how I play
VOTE: CC

VOTE: SpyreX

And that's 2/3rds of his Iso. The rest is fluff.

lets be friends

i promise you i will get on that wagon with you at some point because i've been trying to say that but am bad at conveying my points

Petapan looks pretty townish, if I have to say so myself. Some other people, though... VOTE: Milk

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"If you try to argue this any further, I will vote you, and will do everything in my power to make sure you are lynched."

^Scum trying to shut another player up with threats. I see no town motivation in this threat.

For that to be true, then you must think that the argument he is making is a valid one

Okay, you two can keep on arguing why it would be very wise for Spy to want to get lynched before T-bone, even if they are not part of a mason group. I will not waste my time trying to explain why that is borderlining on horribleness.

PS: The town motivation is called: "Trying to shut down distractions"

PPS: Even if I was scum, why would I make a threat and shut down

that

?

Admittedly, there are a lot of distractions in this game.

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I'm back.

MattP, scum are naturally against anything that hurts scum.

[funkybike1]

Prod dodge.

[funkybike1]

I'll go with that.
VOTE: sykedoc

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I don't think we should be doing a voting bloc just yet. Maybe when we get to 25-30 players left.

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I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I'm just saying that we should wait.

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Bleh. sykedoc's hardly posted at all, but reading the ISO, I'm getting townvibes from what he

has

posted.

Just looked into Muffin/kondi's posts about Fritzler. He starts off by suspecting him of being a mime, and later, after all the mimes flip, continues suspecting him. He doesn't really explain why (the only reasons are failing to live up to a promise, and not towntelling.)

VOTE: Amrun Pretty weird play with respect to Fritzler.

It's weird, but not worth a lynch.

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I do not get the point of this... UNVOTE:

[funkybike1]

Have I called someone scum for townreading/not voting Spyrex?

...No.

[funkybike1]

And with that, VOTE: dramonic.

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On another note, every wagon seems to come out of nowhere, with no place for discussion. It's just a few people leading the way. For example, if you look at Dramonic's ten posts, not one of them has made any attempt to be useful. The sad part is, most of us are the same way, just posting more often!

I can at least say I tried.

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If I picked someone random and tried to prove they were scum by using faulty logic and going with my gut, yes, that would be "trying", but would it be a good idea? That's what most of the discussion has tended to be. Admittedly cfj was an obvious scum, but the rest of the lynches haven't gone that way. MattP got lucky with a read; that is all.

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Looking over it, everyone seems to be taking MattP as if he was a god and not making their own opinions.

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I'd hold off on Kondi for now; a Kondi wagon wouldn't prove anything. Yes, I do have few posts, but that is no reason to lynch me when I have at least CONTRIBUTED, rather than quite a few other players.

[funkybike1]

vote: rhinox

hi

How do mimes lose, getting NKed?

vote: milk

I have no clue what's going on in this game ._.

unvote
vote: luffy

SPYREX
WHO AM I VOTING AGAIN?

I'm confused and useless.

I'm confused and useless.

ROFLLMAOCOPTER FNWJFKWNFWKLFW!

Oh fuck, this is brilliant.

Just know you are on the lurkerlist, so get reading.

Well I'm aware I'm lurking, this game has freaking 103 pages <_<

I'm confused and useless.

ROFLLMAOCOPTER FNWJFKWNFWKLFW!

Oh fuck, this is brilliant.

Just know you are on the lurkerlist, so get reading.

Well I'm aware I'm lurking, this game has freaking 103 pages <_<

Vote: Callforjudgment

there you go <.<

That is every single one of dramonic's posts. Can anyone see a townie in there?

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Looking over it, cfj's vote looks more like a deflection than a bus. If it was a bus, it was a poorly done one.

@redFF, why do you think Kondi is scum beyond any reasonable doubt?

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I don't see it in quite the same way, though I don't deny the possibility.

@kondi: Why are you voting for BB?

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CFJ's ISO makes it really fucking hard to find relationships between players, it's hard to skim with all the votecounts and then ctrl+F gives you like 100 results, but I noticed he's voted BBMolla multiple times before this, and each time only when his wagon had few players.

This only makes BBmolla seem more town than anything.

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There's a difference between trust and the blind following the blind. Hoopla is at L-2 with nothing more than "trust". I only hope that you're all correct.


@dramonic: It's 10 or majority to lynch (obviously 10 at this point.)

[funkybike1]

Mmmm delicious WIFOM

That's a sufficiently townish reply, isn't it? It is certainly WIFOM, though I can't say anything about its taste. (Either that or scum stupidity.)

Furthermore, this game's mechanics are such that the best way to stay alive would be to stay under the radar. If nobody on the scum team thinks you're a threat, it naturally means the scum won't kill you, and vice versa. This logic also partly holds true for towns as a whole, in that we tend to want to lynch someone we have strong feelings about. That logic dominates the current meta, and provides opportunities for the scum to effectively control the entire game.

PEdit: Nobody really wanted to lynch Delta except for possibly TeCh, and I even have doubts about him. I agree; let's move on.

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Any possible advantage caused by manipulating VCs is offset by the permanent blacklisting that would follow VC tampering

We need more pressure on lurkers. There has to be scum down there.

Not to say the votecounts will be 100% accurate, but they will be good for getting a good general idea. Keep pushing the lurkers; it's a win-win. Either it's scum or a useless townie.

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Now that we have come to a consensus, we wait, and hope for a dead scum.

(This is the 3000th post, and my 26th. Not too shabby.)

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Switching to active lurkers, let's look at Ellibereth since he practically asked us to. Look at his iso. There are no meaningful posts in there whatsoever.

[funkybike1]

hey kondi you're an idiot

So are most of us.

[funkybike1]

>_> 28 people too many.

Actually 27 people too many, as long as the last one's town.

[funkybike1]

Let's stay on the side of caution for now. We can wait.

[funkybike1]

If you're lynching me today make it the last so I can do the VC's.

This is the last lynch of the day, for any of you lurkers / those who are just not paying attention.

[funkybike1]

VOTE: YYR
L-1

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That's L-1 guys.

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VOTE: BB

[funkybike1]

Lame.

It makes no sense for me as scum but it's not worth the fight, so feel free to proceed.

It also makes no sense for you as town. I see no reason you would do this if you were town.

[funkybike1]

And I would recommend that BB does, or he'll be hanging from a tree.

[funkybike1]

I still don't get why everyone is suddenly out for my head.

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You mean faking a guilty and being wrong rite?

Was faking the guilty (hint: 5 day cop kinda showed it was nonsense and not the kind of claim scum is gonna throw out) trading a scum body for a nominal lynch since its not like they werent gonna eat it anyways make any sense or MORE sense than bored town goin special because the hero of everything did it earlier to great gain?

no, not really

I think you can figure out my views on this.
By the way, I'm a VT if you haven't guessed already.

[funkybike1]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zdenek

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But then you can kill who you want each time.

It's useless to have vig shot after vig shot without any meaningful scumhunting.

QFT. The best bet is to work out a list of "obvious" townies and go from there.

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VOTE: MoS

GO GO GO

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UNVOTE:

VOTE: zoraster

k let's do this

Any reasons why?

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VOTE: ellibereth

I also believe Zor is town, but I can't say I'm 100% sure.

[funkybike1]

I see many votes, but not many explanations.

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funky give me cliffnotes or else

i forgot to mention your slot is pretty much assumed to be town so you can do w/e the hell you want

page 2 of my ISO has some lists on it you can look at. not going to justify them unless i really feel the need because this game

Assumed to be town? Then why did we constantly have wagons on SKrew? I see some faulty logic.

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funky give me cliffnotes or else

i forgot to mention your slot is pretty much assumed to be town so you can do w/e the hell you want

page 2 of my ISO has some lists on it you can look at. not going to justify them unless i really feel the need because this game

Assumed to be town? Then why did we constantly have wagons on SKrew? I see some faulty logic.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: funkybike1

you just wrote your ass a ticket to ropeville and punched it with the guy who was keeping you alive

if you don't understand why skrew slot is town you haven't been following the thread or are just trying to keep your options open but either way DIE

Now there's some faulty logic. (Sadly, it's coming from probtown.)

[funkybike1]

Ah, more unexplained votes against me. Just like the old days.

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VOTE: techno
Self-preservation, and probscum.

[funkybike1]

Mykonian's VC is the correct one.

This game is moving too slowly. At this point I don't even mind if I'm lynched; this is just too ridiculous.

[funkybike1]

V/LA for an unknown amount of time. Dealing with a family emergency.

Also, it's not Funkybutt.

[funkybike1]

I've been gone for a week and only 7 pages?
Sorry about that, I had a little emergency to take care of.
Not understanding the soad wagon though...

[funkybike1]

I'm not so sure about Spyrex, but I still think Elli would be a far better lynch.

[funkybike1]

Clearly, we are speaking of a gray area between inactivity and scumminess. The question is: Where does it stop?

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Clearly, we are speaking of a gray area between inactivity and scumminess. The question is: Where does it stop?

Was that question addressed to me?

No, but you can answer it.

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Since we're all in the mood to play hangman, I'd like to propose that we hang Elli, since he has contributed absolutely nothing to this game. Frankly, I am shocked that he lasted this long. We're getting to the point where active lurkers are nearly as likely to be scum as those who actually make scummy posts.

VOTE: Elli

Also, Delta's death was followed by a questionable move Day and Night 9 (namely, scum seeming to let us drag on with what little discussions we are having), and that set off a major red flag in my head. Renewing my scum-angel suspicions, as I see no plausible explanation for this. I sensed a definite change to a sickeningly uninterested mood from many of us. Could that mean scum are being complacent?

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Arguing: 1.
Strategy/scumhunting/thinking: 0.