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Post Post #2549 (isolation #0) » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:47 am

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oh god 102 pages

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Post Post #2581 (isolation #1) » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:37 am

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You really think I'm going to replace into a game and claim in my very next post after reading literally nothing other than my role PM and the text on that page?

Anyway, Kiyaruu's claim is correct in every respect. I will also decline to say how many times this ability can be used.

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Post Post #2693 (isolation #2) » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:16 am

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In post 2673, kondi2424 wrote:On the other hand, this practically confirms Spy and I as town (unless Spy is a Godfather). Scum would have no need to kill Matt unless he was right.


NOPE

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Post Post #2699 (isolation #3) » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:48 pm

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why
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Post Post #2705 (isolation #4) » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:59 pm

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In post 2700, Amrun wrote:He totally believes what he's saying.

In post 2703, Trevor wrote:kondi is obvious town


Please explain. I gave up on a read-through so if this is based on something that happened earlier than fill me in. If not I don't understand why you're saying these things.
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Post Post #2737 (isolation #5) » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:21 pm

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In post 2707, Trevor wrote:Ok delta. Reread NS and kondi's interactions and then reread MattP's claim. If kondi was scum, the scum team would know that the claim was fake, so there would be no reason to kill a VT who could potentially make another wrong "investigation".


I accept this for now

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Post Post #2822 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:48 am

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In post 2741, kondi2424 wrote:Delta, that's EXACTLY what I said and what you voted me for.


I accept that logic for now. It doesn't make you confirmed town for obvious reasons. Your support of cfj after this post but before his flip also makes me suspect you. So I'm not opposed to lynching you, just not right now.

After an ISO of BB, he looks like scum to me. His reactions with flipped scum were very hesitant and apparently non-committal.

On the other hand, looking at SpyreX's iso made me laugh when I saw the last three people he voted for.

I'm more inclined to vote BB but since people are saying that BB is "confirmed town" I want that explained before I vote.

Also: is the number of scum known in this kind of setup?

P-Edit: I'm going to look back at CFJ/BB interactions.
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Post Post #2881 (isolation #7) » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:57 am

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In post 2842, Amrun wrote:You know what.

SpyreX is town.

Let's go with this. Hoopla seemed to be voting in tandem with cfj a lot. Fritzler buddied her. She avoided all the scumlynches (didn't post at all) except for cfj and was late on the wagon with no reasoning.

VOTE: Hoopla

MoS does need death, but that's a lurkerlynch.


okay

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Post Post #2899 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:40 am

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VOTE: bbmolla
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Post Post #2955 (isolation #9) » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:20 am

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Mmmm delicious WIFOM
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Post Post #2987 (isolation #10) » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:44 am

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I really don't see how he can manipulate the game through VCs, but don't read them if you don't like them.

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Post Post #2990 (isolation #11) » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:14 am

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Any possible advantage caused by manipulating VCs is offset by the permanent blacklisting that would follow VC tampering

We need more pressure on lurkers. There has to be scum down there.
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Post Post #2995 (isolation #12) » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:08 am

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The amount of lurking that's going on right now is just unacceptable. I'm normally against going after lurkers but this is getting ridiculous. It's entirely possible that the remaining scum are hiding in the lurker pool, which is a pretty effective strategy since nobody is holding them to task for doing nothing. Regardless of who dies today, we need to pressure at least 2 lurkers into actually contributing.
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Post Post #3048 (isolation #13) » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:34 am

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VOTE: Tech
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Post Post #3050 (isolation #14) » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:36 am

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NOPE

That wagon moved way too fast to be 100% town. There is scum on that wagon and Tech is the scummiest on there.
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Post Post #3052 (isolation #15) » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:23 am

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For being what was basically a lurker lynch, that was too fast for my liking.
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Post Post #3056 (isolation #16) » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:44 am

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In post 3053, TeChNoWC wrote:How so Delta? OMGUS much? Worried im catching on to an angel scumteam? You know that will look bad for you when i flip town, right?

Vote: funkybike1


responded to pressure with wishy washy flying under the radar posts. Much more likely to be scum than sykedoc.


LOL nice reply there champ. A bit twitchy to call my vote "OMGUS" when you're not even voting me.
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Post Post #3064 (isolation #17) » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:21 am

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Hey UN and Kondi, what do you think about tech sheeping you guys?
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Post Post #3126 (isolation #18) » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:04 am

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Well, in all fairness, is there anyone here who
doesn't
have access to Jackal's account?
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Post Post #3191 (isolation #19) » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:28 am

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I still think Tech is scum for the knee jerk response to my vote for him.
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Post Post #3217 (isolation #20) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:21 am

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Tech is the play for today.
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Post Post #3258 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:05 am

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VOTE: PeregrineV
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Post Post #3266 (isolation #22) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:21 am

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jesus christ marie
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Post Post #3301 (isolation #23) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:08 am

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VOTE: BBMolla
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Post Post #3311 (isolation #24) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:46 am

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BB has a chance to explain his shit.
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Post Post #3320 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:52 pm

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In post 3315, TeChNoWC wrote:
Vote: funkybike1


As well as BB, don't let Delta or petapan survive til lylo.


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Post Post #3330 (isolation #26) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:01 pm

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The only thing that makes me not want to kill BBMolla right now is that it would be a stupid move as scum to do what he did.
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Post Post #3340 (isolation #27) » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:11 am

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In post 3331, SpyreX wrote:Ding ding

Now lynch funky


what did funky do that was scummier than faking a guilty?
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Post Post #3360 (isolation #28) » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:05 pm

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UNVOTE: BBMolla

For now, but really not liking lurkerwagons
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Post Post #3375 (isolation #29) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:43 am

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nope

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Post Post #3378 (isolation #30) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:07 am

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Funkybike's vote was pure self-preservation
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Post Post #3384 (isolation #31) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:56 am

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Stupid lurker lynch
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Post Post #3390 (isolation #32) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:03 pm

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Peta, opinions on funkybike's self-pres vote?
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Post Post #3393 (isolation #33) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:27 pm

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all he's done today was push for BB right off the bat and then vote Zde out of self-preservation.

Granted I voted BB too, but I moved my vote because of the argument that a fake guilty from BB would not make sense from a scum perspective. Funky decided to remain on BB and only move off BB when it was another opportunity for an easy lynch. Funky is scum.
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Post Post #3396 (isolation #34) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:59 pm

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In post 3394, SpyreX wrote:Psstt

They all need to die. Lets not quibble about orders


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Post Post #3419 (isolation #35) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:49 pm

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In post 3415, kondi2424 wrote:I'm kinda wondering why no other Angels seem to exist besides DW.


There is no reason for their identities to be made public right now.

The reason I voted for funky yesterday turned out not to be valid, so idk
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Post Post #3421 (isolation #36) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:54 pm

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I'd get behind a Staeg wagon.
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Post Post #3423 (isolation #37) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:06 pm

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In post 3422, TeChNoWC wrote:peta, what makes you suspicious of zajnet? That he wants a BB PL lynch?

peta and delta, what makes you suspicious of Staeg?

BB, why is Elli scum?


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Post Post #3465 (isolation #38) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:14 am

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I think Kiaryuu was mistaken when he made that post. Either way, there would be no motivation to lie about that.
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Post Post #3468 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:30 am

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Let's get this party started

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Post Post #3481 (isolation #40) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:18 pm

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I'm not claiming the names of the other angels. They can claim if they want but I won't out them. You can try lynching me but it will fail.
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Post Post #3484 (isolation #41) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:33 pm

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In post 3482, Trevor wrote:
In post 3481, DeltaWave wrote:I'm not claiming the names of the other angels. They can claim if they want but I won't out them. You can try lynching me but it will fail.

So pretty much you and the other angels are unlynchable? Any idea why the mafia have avoided you for 6 nights now?


Oh, I don't know. Because they want to force me to claim everyone else in the angel group? Nice try bro.
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Post Post #3485 (isolation #42) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:34 pm

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that's actually a good strategy as i'm the only claimed angel and if you could get me to spill the beans on who else is an angel, that would provide a great deal of info to scum regarding the town power role layout of this game

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Post Post #3487 (isolation #43) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:39 pm

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I claimed a power role already. I'm just not going to out the rest of the angels without their consent.
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Post Post #3489 (isolation #44) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:43 pm

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Sorry, scum won't get any additional PR information. This is an attempt at POE and it's not going to happen.
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Post Post #3490 (isolation #45) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:45 pm

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In post 3488, Trevor wrote:Ok then they can claim out loud right now.


What's the town motivation for this statement anyway?
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Post Post #3492 (isolation #46) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:47 pm

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In post 3491, Trevor wrote:
In post 3490, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 3488, Trevor wrote:Ok then they can claim out loud right now.


What's the town motivation for this statement anyway?

The fact that there's no danger in claiming and we can find the mafia easier


No danger in claiming a bunch of PRs

oh trevor, you so scummy

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Post Post #3494 (isolation #47) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:49 pm

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In post 3493, Trevor wrote:You havent answered why you havent been nightkilled yet although you fucking claimed d1

In post 3485, DeltaWave wrote:that's actually a good strategy as i'm the only claimed angel and if you could get me to spill the beans on who else is an angel, that would provide a great deal of info to scum regarding the town power role layout of this game

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Post Post #3495 (isolation #48) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:52 pm

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Also trevor, please continue your wagon on me. As you can tell, saving someone kills another person, and you'll be the one to die. COME AT ME BRO
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Post Post #3499 (isolation #49) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:57 pm

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In post 3497, Trevor wrote:You are an idiot. I'm not even voting you and I don't even think you are scum. I am telling you that with very few mafia left, now is the time to claim. Are you even following this game? Have you even read me?


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Post Post #3500 (isolation #50) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:57 pm

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if you think the threat is empty, give it a try
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Post Post #3502 (isolation #51) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:00 pm

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In post 3501, Trevor wrote:Nice job avoiding my question. Switching or leading a lynch on me is one of the most antitown things you can do.


You're trying to get me to out town power roles. Lynching you is the only sensible action.
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Post Post #3504 (isolation #52) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:05 pm

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Do you have a point?
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Post Post #3506 (isolation #53) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:14 pm

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Post Post #3525 (isolation #54) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:38 am

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In post 3520, petapan wrote:fair point

UNVOTE:

VOTE: deltawave

if you're playing for the town here, no worries. just get funkybike killed instead and all's well. you kill trevor or anyone else that's a townread and it's a scumclaim.


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Post Post #3527 (isolation #55) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:42 am

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In post 3526, kondi2424 wrote:He's bluffing, and if not, still not town.


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Post Post #3529 (isolation #56) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:01 am

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Like I said, lynching me is a waste of time but by doing so, you're giving me a kill and I'm going to use that to my discretion.
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Post Post #3532 (isolation #57) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:06 am

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In post 3524, TheTrollie wrote:wait.

UNVOTE: deltawave

Since we have a confirmation that SOMEONE has redirected, and no one counterclaimed kair, why does it make sense to go through with this lynch? we know he isnt lying so... and if this power exists, why not let them protect eachother rather than have them out eachother to be NK'd?

its early.


^^^ This right here.

I just noticed this post but Trollie understands what's going on here.

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Post Post #3536 (isolation #58) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:17 am

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In post 3535, Trevor wrote:Hey deltawave, you realize I'm obvious town and that a lot of others agree with my theory? Do you realize that if I die, you have zero chance of surviving?


If you try to lynch me again, I'll use the next kill at my discretion as well.

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Post Post #3538 (isolation #59) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:24 am

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In post 3477, Trevor wrote:OK just make delta claim all angels right now or we lynch him for not having any partners

In post 3537, Trevor wrote:I'm not even trying to lynch you. Do you honestly have no mafia reads?


It's funny how you changed your tune from "make delta claim all angels now or we lynch him" to "I'm not even trying to lynch you" after I say that you'll be the target of the kill if that lynch happens.

I do have scum reads, you're just the strongest. Your behavior is consistent from what I expect out of scum and this whole "encouraging people to lynch DW without voting DW" is telling enough.
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Post Post #3540 (isolation #60) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:34 am

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They can out themselves if they want but like I said, I'm not outing anyone unless they approve of it.

Regardless, what benefit would there be if they claimed? I don't get it and I won't advocate for them claiming unless that's shown.
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Post Post #3543 (isolation #61) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:40 am

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It doesn't matter if they're clear of mafia or not because they're going to be saved if they get lynched. All things considered, since they can't be lynched, outing them only helps scum. Do you see why I think you're scum?

As for the other point, do you really think scum would have a role like this and play it like I've been playing it? If I was scum, OR a third party, it wouldn't make sense to claim angel. The proper play would be to silently use it to save mafia who get lynched or treat it like an SK kill. Neither has happened, which makes the third party or mafia theory bunk.
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Post Post #3545 (isolation #62) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:49 am

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In post 3544, Trevor wrote:
In post 3542, TeChNoWC wrote:
In post 3541, Trevor wrote:The fact that if even only 1 person claims angel, we get another person clear of being mafia and that you are not some solo-3rd party/scum bluffing.


How? If someone were to claim angel buddy with him, they could simply both be mafia together.

No mafia is going to have multiple lynch overturners. Besides, if either of them eventually flip mafia, we get the partner immediately. Considering there are 5 dead goons in a 50 person game, I'm speculating there are no more than 2 mafia alive, considering the lynch required only 10 people to lynch for most of this game. I'll call any angel team of 3 or more clear of being mafia, and if only 2 are claimed and they do end up being mafia, they would have to work until 5 person lylo.

Outing them helps town, do you realize that we're trying to POE the last 1/2 mafia?


Well, if you try to lynch them, it will fail. That will help in POE just as much if they claimed.
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Post Post #3549 (isolation #63) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:02 am

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In post 3546, Trevor wrote:So why did you use your power and claim EARLY INTO D1 unnecessarily while you are so reluctant to out your partners?


That was the guy I replaced. We all formed an agreement that my slot would be the only one to come out, at least at that point, and the opinion hasn't changed.

As for the amateur, we will obviously NOT only protect ourselves. I'm saying that we will
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Anyway, you can try to convince me all day long to out the other angels but I'm not going to against their will. Maybe they'll be persuaded by some arguments, who knows. But there's no threat to me here, since I'll survive any lynch that's put on me, and I'm not about to go back on our agreement not to reveal each other.

P-Edit: We're not going to stop every lynch that happens. If someone seems to be scum, that lynch is going through.
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Post Post #3553 (isolation #64) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:21 am

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In post 3552, petapan wrote:yeah i know but this is akin to scum claiming super saint or the like, reads as a "fuck off don't lynch me or you'll be sorry" intimidation tactic and if he's telling the truth and is going to NOT kill the guy who's a general scumspect then he deserves to be hanged until dead


Nope. I gave my reasons for selecting Trevor as the kill if I get lynched. This isn't an intimidation tactic.

Funkybike is probably going to get lynched anyway. If I use the kill it's going to be on someone who isn't likely to be lynched but seems scummy.
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Post Post #3555 (isolation #65) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:35 am

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In post 3554, Trevor wrote:I find it funny that out of every player here you cannot find any mafia except for me. Man you are incompetent.

In post 3538, DeltaWave wrote:I do have scum reads, you're just the strongest. Your behavior is consistent from what I expect out of scum and this whole "encouraging people to lynch DW without voting DW" is telling enough.
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Post Post #3559 (isolation #66) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:47 am

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In post 3556, Trevor wrote:OK then out some of you reads jesus christ


I already said I'd be down for a Staeg wagon

I'm still thinking about funky. The reason I voted him yesterday turned out not to be right so IDK about him.
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Post Post #3562 (isolation #67) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:08 am

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In post 3561, Trevor wrote:
In post 3560, TheTrollie wrote:is it possible that an Angel is scum aligned?

if so then i understand the DW wagon, but if Angels are town roles then it seems very dumb

The entire premise is that if Delta is town he can overturn.


You already know that I can overturn lynches. I did (well, my predecessor did) and nobody counter-claimed it. So saying "IF delta is town" makes no sense in this context, since it was already proven that I can overturn a lynch.
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Post Post #3566 (isolation #68) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:31 am

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In post 3563, Trevor wrote:It is currently in dispute if you even have partners, because if you don't, you are powerless.


I don't get why this matters because nobody has come up with a cognizable reason for why I'd be scum in the first place.
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Post Post #3577 (isolation #69) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:22 am

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In post 3567, Trevor wrote:
In post 3566, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 3563, Trevor wrote:It is currently in dispute if you even have partners, because if you don't, you are powerless.


I don't get why this matters because nobody has come up with a cognizable reason for why I'd be scum in the first place.

Your reluctance and the general uselessness of your slot


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Post Post #3584 (isolation #70) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:59 am

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In post 3581, TeChNoWC wrote:Trevor has done nothing different from any of us pushing for this Delta lynch and I don't see how Trevor is scum.


nope, read my latest posts again.

btw, a staeg wagon makes far more sense than this waste of time.
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Post Post #3585 (isolation #71) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:02 am

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In post 3580, TeChNoWC wrote:I would like Delta to redirect onto funky, but if he wants to kill Trevor makes sense he is likely scum.


Also, explain why you think funky is scummy.
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Post Post #3590 (isolation #72) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:20 am

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First of all, the wagon on me is a distraction tactic. If we were scum, then we would have just sat back and silently stopped lynches on mafia. If we were third party, then we would have used our shots in a similar hidden way. There's no scum or third-party motivation here. The posts (hint hint spyrex) that are basically like "let's just lynch deltawave over and over instead of scumhunting" should be raising some alarms.

Having only me claim while the other angels are unclaimed strikes a balance between providing town with information and keeping information from scum.

Tech: Your case on Funky isn't great. He's a possible lynch candidate but I'd rather not use a kill on him. I suspect Staeg because he's been flying under the radar for the last couple lynches. He sheeped last time and made no further comment, and this time he just unobtrusively bandwagoned. He's trying to go unnoticed while pushing town wagons along.
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Post Post #3592 (isolation #73) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:43 am

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Why is it so crucial that another Angel claims? This seems to be a sticking point for some people and I just don't get it. I don't see how answering that one thing would resolve anything.

One kill for one save is the rule. We don't get two kills if two Angels save a lynch, as only one can save a lynch.
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Post Post #3594 (isolation #74) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:02 am

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If it was a scum mechanic, then explain why (1) it hasn't been used to save scum and (2) it hasn't been used to kill town.
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Post Post #3597 (isolation #75) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:12 am

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Hey, if we were scum aligned or third-party aligned, we wouldn't have claimed at all.

Anyway, like I said. Staeg is good, funkybike is meh. Staeg has been active lurking for ages now and has been keeping his head down at all times. That's the best place for votes.
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Post Post #3602 (isolation #76) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:19 am

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In post 3598, kondi2424 wrote:Delta, if your lynch is redirected, redirect it to Staeg.

In post 3599, SpyreX wrote:Then get ran up and shoot him.

There you go everyone wins.


Why not skip the BS and just lynch Staeg?

@peta: I've already explained why it makes no sense whatsoever for me to be scum or a third party.
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Post Post #3604 (isolation #77) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:24 am

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because it's stupid to vote for someone who doesn't make sense as scum and because this entire wagon is a distraction from scumhunting?
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Post Post #3605 (isolation #78) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:25 am

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Oops, just noticed I wasn't voting staeg

VOTE: Staeg
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Post Post #3608 (isolation #79) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:31 am

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Because I know that we'll have people like SpyreX who will say "let's just keep lynching delta over and over" to perpetually avoid scumhunting.
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Post Post #3610 (isolation #80) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:33 am

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In post 3609, kondi2424 wrote:But then you can kill who you want each time.


It's useless to have vig shot after vig shot without any meaningful scumhunting.
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Post Post #3619 (isolation #81) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:48 am

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I'm leaning more toward shooting Staeg at this point. Tech is kind of tasty too.
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Post Post #3621 (isolation #82) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:54 am

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Yeah?
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Post Post #3624 (isolation #83) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:06 pm

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Yep. The kill is currently still set to Trevor but I'm thinking about Staeg instead.
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Post Post #3628 (isolation #84) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:40 pm

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Who's the secret scum read?
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Post Post #3632 (isolation #85) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:07 pm

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In post 3630, Trevor wrote:Anyone willing to go to SKrew? I'm not feeling FB1 anymore.
Vote: SKrew


Delta, I assume the angels have one shot per player? Correct me if I am wrong.


Let's just put it this way: we have a bunch of shots at our disposal.

I'd prefer SKrew more than Funky but less than Staeg.
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Post Post #3637 (isolation #86) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:41 pm

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When I say that "I" have another shot, I mean that I'm directing the next shot. It's not like I'm the one actually doing the "shooting."

Anyway, here are people I'd be cool with lynching today: Staeg, Tech, SKrew. Possibly funkybike if anyone has anything better on him.
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Post Post #3659 (isolation #87) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:39 am

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In post 3658, syndromeofadown wrote:VOTE: DW


I think this is a dumb idea ftr, but whatever it's not like anything else is happening


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Post Post #3661 (isolation #88) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:47 am

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In post 3660, syndromeofadown wrote:not really except funkybike BUT NOBODY WANTS TO LYNCH HIM


He was nearly lynched last time
He had a large wagon that was at L-3 or something for much of this lynch

This is the kind of stuff I was referring to when I said that my lynch is a distraction. People are going to hide behind it.
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Post Post #3663 (isolation #89) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:50 am

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After my lynch fails, are people going to actually start caring about scumhunting again or will there just be more bullshit?
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Post Post #3666 (isolation #90) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:52 am

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I made a case against Staeg regarding his voting habits and Trevor for absurd reasons for this wagon. That's a hell of a lot more than either one of you did recently.
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Post Post #3668 (isolation #91) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:56 am

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In post 3667, Trevor wrote:Dude you have an absurd number of overturns. You should have nothing to fear.


Yep, criticize me for playing to my wincon

I can't wait to be hammered :lol:
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Post Post #3670 (isolation #92) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:02 am

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FYI, my lynch pool for the next lynch will include any of the "eh whatever let's just vote deltawave and screw actually going after scum" players. e.g.: Jackal, syndrome, etc
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Post Post #3674 (isolation #93) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:06 am

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I'm pretty pleased with where the redirect kill is set right now.
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Post Post #3676 (isolation #94) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:07 am

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In post 3675, kondi2424 wrote:Good to know?


If you couldn't tell, that was in reference to syndome's request.
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Post Post #3678 (isolation #95) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:10 am

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lol
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Post Post #3691 (isolation #96) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:19 am

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bye trevor :D
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Post Post #3694 (isolation #97) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:36 am

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Post Post #3707 (isolation #98) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:56 am

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haha oh wow

anyway

VOTE: Staeg

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Post Post #3711 (isolation #99) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:00 pm

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that's priceless
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Post Post #3713 (isolation #100) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:01 pm

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fyi i was basically the only one during that last lynch that actually wanted to go after someone on the merits instead of policy

so you should actually be praising me
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Post Post #3716 (isolation #101) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:04 pm

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DeltaWave: "Hey this lynch is a distraction"
Petapan: "NO ITS NOT"
*lynch happens*
Petapan: "ok this is a distraction"

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Post Post #3717 (isolation #102) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:04 pm

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I was 2 steps ahead of you this whole time and you can't even wrap your mind around it, just deal with it bro.
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Post Post #3724 (isolation #103) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:08 pm

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Hey, I explained why the lynch was stupid. It was the voter's fault for going through with it.
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Post Post #3747 (isolation #104) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:20 pm

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In post 3741, Ellibereth wrote:I think we're definitely going to lose if the angel group is allowed to do whatever they want.
they need to be outed.

so we need to just convince one of them to out the rest.


Hey, before we stopped my lynch, we only used our power once to shoot a mime. My lynch was stupid and I explained why beforehand. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions.
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Post Post #3753 (isolation #105) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:26 pm

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In post 3750, TeChNoWC wrote:
In post 3747, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 3741, Ellibereth wrote:I think we're definitely going to lose if the angel group is allowed to do whatever they want.
they need to be outed.

so we need to just convince one of them to out the rest.


Hey, before we stopped my lynch, we only used our power once to shoot a mime. My lynch was stupid and I explained why beforehand. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions.


Take responsibility for yours and admit that you lied when you said you were going to kill syndrome just before the hammer.


I never said I was going to kill syndrome. Prove it.

Anyway, our first angel action was to kill off the mime third party team.

Then you guys decide you want to "test" a claim that's
already been proven
by the lack of a counter-claim. I gave you many reasons as to why the lynch was stupid, yet you had people who just said "eh vote deltawave". I repeatedly warned against that, but you all didn't seem to care that people were bandwagoning for no reason and decided to proceed with a ridiculous lynch. So don't whine that the angels did something stupid.

In fact, let's get back to that point. Like I said last time, my lynch pool consists of people who hopped on the bandwagon with little or no comment.

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Post Post #3756 (isolation #106) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:28 pm

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In post 3755, Ellibereth wrote:I kind of want to just lynch an angel ad infinitum until they die.


If you're town, play to your wincon instead of playing to emotions plox

This goes for a bunch of other people as well
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Post Post #3787 (isolation #107) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:00 am

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BBMolla has risen again on my scumdar now that I've noticed that since he faked a guilty on Peregrine, all he's done was to hammer Zde and call Elli "probably scum."
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Post Post #3807 (isolation #108) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:37 pm

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I'd like Jackal or Staeg

I can settle for zoraster
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Post Post #3811 (isolation #109) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:51 pm

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VOTE: Zoraster
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Post Post #3829 (isolation #110) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:48 am

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More Zoraster votes plz
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Post Post #3831 (isolation #111) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:07 am

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I did a little scum hunting in the QT because I didn't understand why I wasn't killed yet. My theory at the time was that there was scum in the angel group and they were keeping me alive to claim redirects for them (Kaiyaruu made that promise and I kept to it). Eventually I figured that having scum in the angel group would probably be unbalanced, but if there was one, there'd be only one.
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Post Post #3834 (isolation #112) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:25 am

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If there was scum in the group then I would have expected them to steer us toward saving mafia people.
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Post Post #3835 (isolation #113) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:27 am

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Especially cause we all came to the conclusion early on that we'd treat each other as town, if there was a scum presence in the neighborhood then it would have made sense for one of them to be like "hey, i think cfd is likely to be town and (someone else) is more likely to be scum, let's step in." But nobody expressed any support for protecting mafia and for the most part, we were refraining from using our powers except to kill that mime early on and to protect me.
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Post Post #3837 (isolation #114) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:51 am

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In post 3836, SpyreX wrote:Who are you even talking to?


theamateur and kondi
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Post Post #3839 (isolation #115) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:07 am

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In post 3838, theamatuer wrote:Well if the saved turned out to be scum, it would make him look bad no?


Yeah but you wouldn't know they're scum until probably several lynches later, and even then, people make mistakes.

I just think that if there was scum in the group, they would have tried to undermine the group or to help scum.
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Post Post #3846 (isolation #116) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:17 am

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In post 3841, Ellibereth wrote:that's shitty reasoning
for thinking there's no scum

BECAUSE THEY WOULD TOTALLY MAKE IT OBVIOUS AS HELL RIGHT

zor is going to flip town
I'm in the state where I think the lurker lynches are useless and the remaining are in the actives.


Im not saying they'd make it obvious, but I'd expect them to try to at least do something to advance their interests
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Post Post #3852 (isolation #117) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:43 pm

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I'm wondering where the hell this elli counterwagon just came from
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Post Post #3853 (isolation #118) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:02 am

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V/LA, taking a shit
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Post Post #3854 (isolation #119) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:12 am

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Back from my V/LA
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Post Post #3859 (isolation #120) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:28 am

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In post 3856, syndromeofadown wrote:
In post 3852, DeltaWave wrote:I'm wondering where the hell this elli counterwagon just came from

3841

1) predicting a town-flip on a player that's L-1 about to get lynched. He's put no effort into actually stopping the lynch or counterwagon and only mentions it when zoro's at L-1... could be trying to gain town credit if zoro flipped town
2) Trying to direct away from lurker lynches while also being in the lurker pool - seems like it could be self-preservation
3) Blanket statement about "active players are scum" while not calling out specific players
4) In general just trying to spread paranoia


At this point, #1 doesn't matter because we haven't seen zoro's flip. Even so, I don't know much information this provides.

#2 doesn't make sense because even though he lurked much of the game, he's not lurking now.

#3 so what

#4 idk my bff jill

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Post Post #3863 (isolation #121) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:48 pm

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FUCKING FINALLY
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Post Post #3870 (isolation #122) » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:38 pm

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VOTE: Tech
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Post Post #3881 (isolation #123) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:13 am

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yeah, let's kill confirmed town

that's totally a good idea
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Post Post #3959 (isolation #124) » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:52 pm

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In post 3958, SpyreX wrote:DW's business as scum requiring a smooth tongue to have someone else drool on dat Trevor lynch.
MoS's pure smarm is hard to fake.
Zaj, however, taking that shot and getting to point at DW for it and then unleash the angelgate well.


Zaj didn't point at me for it, he took responsibility for it. His characterization of events was correct, I initially wanted Trevor and so did he, then I wanted Staeg but he decided to keep it on Trevor. I originally took responsibility as part of our agreement, but then he claimed and there you go
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Post Post #3962 (isolation #125) » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:25 pm

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In post 3960, petapan wrote:VOTE: zajnet

yeahhh just re-read his ISO and this is the only person i'm going to be voting so long as i'm alive the next few gamedays and i don't see him making any mention of trevor, makes me think he took deltawave's stupid and ran with it


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Post Post #3985 (isolation #126) » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:54 am

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In post 3983, Ellibereth wrote:/in taiwan with computer and internet
daily access and stuff should be back within one or two days


you better not be in taiwan for some fucked up sex thing
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Post Post #4016 (isolation #127) » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:42 am

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I dislike this funkybutt counterwagon
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Post Post #4018 (isolation #128) » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:43 am

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In post 4017, funkybike1 wrote:
V/LA for an unknown amount of time. Dealing with a family emergency.

Also, it's not Funkybutt.


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Post Post #4033 (isolation #129) » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:39 pm

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I see that the day is still going on
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Post Post #4039 (isolation #130) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:58 am

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In post 4037, redFF wrote:sup yo back from v/la

really need a trollie or amatuer wagon

those vcas were incirminatinatg as fuck and i doubt half of you even looked at them


actually i agree with you

go go gadget trollie wagon

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Post Post #4043 (isolation #131) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:58 am

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Referencing SpyreX's VCA

Trollie was the L-2 vote on both NS and zdenek (prime bussing position)
With only a couple exceptions, Trollie has stayed off town lynch wagons unless theamateur was also involved in that wagon
I have a hard time believing that the 7-person T-Bone wagon at the end of D1 was a 100% town driven wagon

Regarding flipped scum:

COJ never mentioned trollie at all

Zdenek never mentioned trollie at all

Nobody Special called trollie "scummy" (Post #1977) to which Trollie very awkwardly tried to explain it way (1979), which led to NS' next post (#1981) in which he commended Trollie for playing so townish. That's the last time NS mentioned trollie.

fritzler never mentioned trollie at all

manho mentioned trollie only once, commenting "too little posts from trollie. but he is more likely scum flying under radar than townie not keeping up with the pace. not sure though."

that last one especially sets off some alarms, in light of manho's flip it's so manufactured and forced that it it
fucking hurts to read


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Post Post #4047 (isolation #132) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:19 am

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it's that ALL of them either (1) avoided you entirely or (2) awkwardly engaged in a single exchange with you and then ignored you after that

The interaction with NS was so fake, and manho's comment on you is classic scum distancing
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Post Post #4048 (isolation #133) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:20 am

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well, to be more accurate, manho didn't engage in an "exchange" with you per se, but the point remains: all the flipped scum either avoided you or referenced you in a one-time suspicious way
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Post Post #4056 (isolation #134) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:54 pm

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MORE VOTES
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Post Post #4061 (isolation #135) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:14 pm

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you dont even need that wagon to vote trollie
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Post Post #4063 (isolation #136) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:21 pm

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Just based on the VCAs, I'd say that these people or a majority of these people are scum: trollie, amateur, tech, chronopie
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Post Post #4066 (isolation #137) » Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:01 am

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In post 4064, TheTrollie wrote:jesus christ I thought finally when we were down to the last handfull of players people would actually take the time to think about shit and not vote randomly. The argument against me is so dumb. If no one is willing to actually put their head into this game anymore this is hopeless.


bawhahaha you've done jack shit for weeks now your big defense is that we don't have our heads in the game

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