The game of the year: town won!

[petapan]

redFF or petapan seem like better policy lynches if we're going to play that game.

VOTE: redFF

i own, sorry

[petapan]

i'll post substance when i'm done reading the thread don't cream your undies in anticipation

HAMMER!

On to the next mislynch!

VOTE: petapan

admitting i am town, nice scumclaim idiot

[petapan]

oh iceguy is obviously a mime sorry guess i really should read up before i post

[petapan]

BB is also high on my scum list:

bbmolla is scummy to you but you're lynching redff for being a "spammer"

[petapan]

idk i can see reasons for softclaiming like bbmolla did as town and scum but if i explain why i think a townie would do it it literally defeats the purpose

[petapan]

BB is also high on my scum list:

bbmolla is scummy to you but you're lynching redff for being a "spammer"

yes...my scum list is nowhere near strong enough yet to vote based on my weak scum reads. spammers cloud our ability to make scum reads, i want them out first

but you post a giant-ass case on bbmolla

yeah gonna toot my own horn here

VOTE: thetrollie

[petapan]

but i thought your scum list wasn't that strong thetrollie???

[petapan]

people need to stop freaking out about mimes because iceguy already fucked up and made himself obvious so we can basically avoid lynching him and mimes can't win

[petapan]

p-edit: Johhog is not town. Guaranteed now.

100% agreed.

K good, you're derptown.

Matt, the best move for scum is to lurk d1, especially in this game. Not WIFOM claim Mime/Mafia. If you think I'm scum, you must also assume I am retarded.

to be fair that's not an outlandish assumption

[petapan]

Who are all these random people I've never played with trying to policy lynch me. Might as well claim now :vt.

Scum right here.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: izak

this needs traction anyone who has been saying he was scum should get off red or whoever and onto him

[petapan]

bbmolla is tryharding so i don't want to kill him plus he amused me with that one post about reading himself

[petapan]

bbmolla is tryharding so i don't want to kill him plus he amused me with that one post about reading himself

Milk is a serial killer?

facepalm

Actually, go ahead and vig me or whatever.

this game

THIS GAME

thanks for confirming that scum have a doctor i guess

[petapan]

cool people:
izakthegoomba (3): petapan Milk MattP

uncool people:
redFF (7): SpyreX YYR TheTrollie callforjudgement UberNinja BBmolla Fritzler

[petapan]

Psst. Why aren't more people voting VOTE: UberNinja?

summarize why in one sentence and if it's good i will vote it AFTER we kill izak because that has more traction

[petapan]

Is petapan a redFF alt?

fuck i'm caught don't tell mith

[petapan]

I don't know why everyone thinks the Mime team is so small and that they have it difficult - I expect more people to die during the day than at night. They might even have a factional commute or protection of some kind. I predict a Mime team of four with a factional ability, a BP-SK, two vigs and two 5 player mafia families.

Also;

VOTE: redFF

You're probably dying soon, so claim.

Who are all these random people I've never played with trying to policy lynch me. Might as well claim now :vt.

do you still have that scum-read on johhog want to hear your updated opinion

[petapan]

Someone present an actual case on me.

kthx

the case is you are a turd man and your iso is bad (low signal:noise ratio) and this post is really bad in addition to you not voting him at any point despite making taht post.

[petapan]

Someone with more time do a "who Milk thinks is scum" versus "who wants Milk dead" analysis. Something tells me there's quite the correlation there.

I don't like Izak, Fritzler, Rhinox, Spyrex, and elmo. they're scummy

you and elmo want milk dead, izak said he would hammer but he is scum so w/e. fritzler and rhinox never mentioned milk. sorry m8.

[petapan]

...so I'm a turd and I called red scum? Great case, guys.

yes and yes and yes

i want to say when someone is really insistent that a case be presented on them that it's a scumtell but i can't back it up

[petapan]

Okay. Needs to die by lynch...
UberNinja
Izak
Petapan

Vote: UberNinja

Needs to die by other means
IceGuy

Town voting block
Me
Spyrex
Rhinox
Amrun
Chevre
errr...I need to go back and check all that. I should make notes.

don't post

[petapan]

I'm going to be a part of the redFF policy lynch. VOTE: redFF

Uh Hoopla...

Alright, lets use the first two lynches to policy lynch. I'll switch to chesskid if we get redFF afterwards.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: chesskid

Awkward

fair difference between that and spyrex's first post, which came several pages later

[petapan]

Okay. Needs to die by lynch...
UberNinja
Izak

Petapan

My point exactly pal.

RedFF is town, that wagon needs to die. I approve of the UN and or Izak wagon that keeps sputtering.

I didn't see a recent vote count BB, which one has more votes?

no really please stop posting

[petapan]

cool, time to move on from izak

uberninja is pretty blatantly just trollin' it up and people biting on it as acting like scum are dumb and/or scum

don't have an actual read on him

bbmolla workin' hard to undo the good will on him but idk if he's the best person to lynch

don't lynch redff

need a fresh wagon, going to look at random isos

[petapan]

A quick note: izak is probably not dead. His wagon will have been reset, but he shouldn't be dead. Take that as you will.

you're going to need to explain this sooner rather than later

[petapan]

VOTE: elmo

i like this vote b/c they just sheeped 3 wagons with no real input

This fakeclaim debatical doesn't make a difference in the grand scheme of things. There are 50 players. It's pretty safe to fakeclaim any role, as there might be multiples anyway. We should be lynching on scummy play not whether we believe a claim or not. The policy wagon on Chesskid was "fun" I guess. Just because we have 48 players doesn't me we can't get serious.

Yes Matt, the voting block I started compiling when I entered the game on page 5...I totally made that up on the spot. Since you probably ISOed me to get that gem, go read my opening post where I state that I want a town voting block. I'll wait.

If we lynched Izak, Uberninja or Petapan or any other player who isn't attempting or at least pretending to scumhunt next please.

Why did you feel the need to activate whatever power you have Kairyuu?

has anyone ever told you you are really bad at posting

[petapan]

dude redff he voted you there because you defended it as a policy lynch, not because he actually wanted to policy lynch you, i am sorry but you're just wrong with what you are thinking here

[petapan]

dude redff he voted you there because you defended it as a policy lynch, not because he actually wanted to policy lynch you, i am sorry but you're just wrong with what you are thinking here

wat

it's an implicit line of thought rather than an explicit one. he didn't like you saying "it was a policy lynch", so he turned it on you by saying "oh yeah how about we policy lynch YOU"

[petapan]

"guys, look at my ability to cut and paste names from the playerlist in a random order, i am contributing in a useful manner"

[petapan]

anyway this thread needs time to breathe but for my own purposes i'm noting people who haven't posted much yet to look into later once everyone has had time to post

Kairyuu 8
Zdenek 4
SleepyKrew 3
Chronopie 7
Elmo TeH AzN 6
Milk 7
YYR 8
PeregrineV 2
TheTrollie 5
Robotnick2 1
chesskid3 2
Moneybags 8
funkybike1 1
Trevor 4
The Mini-Librarian 9
imaginality 2
theamatuer 7
syndromeofadown 4
Amrun 1
dramonic 2
Nobody Special 3
AGar 8
Captain Corporal 1

(i realize there are people who have not posted at all yet but i don't want to check for that)

[petapan]

peta there must be some errors with your post-count list, because I'm not on it at all, lol. Anyway, post count is a horrible way to measure content.

i listed people who had less than 10 posts who i need to review once they've had time to be more active that's all

[petapan]

i assume chesskid wasn't listed because he's already dead but he loses too

thank you kairyuu that was awesome

i was hesitant to vote t-bone because of his line about redFF being town and figured he was just Really Bad At Posting but I re-read his ISO and there's a ton of accusation with literally zero justification and he's basically voting people based on the size of their posts and badgering people to "analyze posts" and "ask meaningful questions" when he doesn't do that himself so he can burn

it's a better case than what i have on elmo atm though they're still scummy in my eyes

i have a question i want to ask spyrex though i'm going to try to catch him while he's actively reading the thread

[petapan]

milk can't see why anyone would have thought you were a mime!!

[petapan]

i feel like doing traditional wagon analysis isn't going to work as well here, because of it being a smaller section of the player list that needs to vote on each lynch

not saying you can't find scum that way just that there will likely be a wacky all town mislynch wagon at some point in the game

also i forgot my vote

UNVOTE:

VOTE: T-Bone

[petapan]

no fucking way am I lynching tbone and not just because I'm in his town block but because he is ACTUALLY TRYING. Too many of you are playing like you think you're hot shit and filling the thread with crap. I take back what I said before about policy lynches there are about 5-10 of you I wish I could nuke right now.

no, he isn't. his posts are low-effort garbage inflated with things like useless lists to mask the lack of substance, hope this helps

[petapan]

no, he isn't. his posts are low-effort garbage inflated with things like useless lists to mask the lack of substance, hope this helps

I agree the lists thing is garbage, but a lot of people present their reads in garbage ways. I think his attempts to foster a voting bloc is town motivated, even though I think that is also pointless right now (and not including the right people). Calling someone scum for those reasons is even lazier than you think T-Bone is being.

i had considered that he was just really bad at posting but my biggest problem with him is that his only consideration for calling people town is "writes long posts" which granted is something some who is Really Dumb might think, but it's also a thing I could see scum doing because they're looking to call people town based on easy criterion without really evaluating them, essentially just cutting corners and only arguing with people they see as weak and it's something i could see myself doing as scum which is why i don't like it

fair point about the voting bloc intentions though, i disregarded it because normally i'd think it kind of null but given the voting mechanics this game it makes a little more sense for someone to want to do that so w/e

UNVOTE:

moneybags vote is okay i guess, he seemed mostly trolly to me but also pretty blatantly not trying, i think by the same critera elmo is worse so i'll go back to that lynch

VOTE: elmo

[petapan]

seriously would like people to conpare moneybags and elmo

i'm probably looking far too much into two prople who are both making rvs-style posts, but moneybags at least seems to have a read on milk and stick with it even if he doesn't explain it where elmo sheeps anything that comes along. feel like moneybags would be worth interrogating more before passing judgment.

[petapan]

that captain corporal wagon is far sexier than the other wagons up there right now because even with just 2 posts he managed to drop a scumtell in the second by saying he was still reading the game yet put down a vote with no explanation as well

elmo is still blatantly scum, but my vote there is useless so let me tip the scales a bit

UNVOTE:

VOTE: captain corporal

[petapan]

you're really incredibly superbly bad at posting, almost as bad as T-bone

but i'll humor you and argue with you for a bit since you're blatantly wrong

nowhere in posting a list did i say those people were scummy or even lurking, just that they hadn't been active and it was my idea that i should read up on them when they have become more active, and hell why not post it in the thread so that people can be reminded who to keep tabs on? you are shitting the bed real hard over something that was essentially a public note. if you legitimately think i'm not posting content, maybe go circlejerk with T-bone and throw names in lists and laugh about how protown you are, but i back up everything i say it's just that the knuckledraggers don't pick up on it

so i guess you live up to your username, really

[petapan]

Are you going to do something besides insult me? This isn't helping your case bro

see i don't really need to persuade you right now so i can just mock you derisively and laugh at your bad posts while i call out people i think are actually scummy. you probably don't notice this because you judge alignment by post length but i didn't bother to check this so if you want to prove me wrong by all means do so

[petapan]

because i try to back up every single vote i make with reasoning, hope this helps. if you have questions about any of my reasons for my votes, i will explain them in simple english

[petapan]

read CC trust me you have time

[petapan]

...

Look at the players voting for CC. They're all individually scummier than him. Except maybe petapan and Muffin is OK.

nah ellibereth is town

[petapan]

elmo is still blatantly scum

Na broski its how I play
VOTE: CC

this is false also

[petapan]

...

Look at the players voting for CC. They're all individually scummier than him. Except maybe petapan and Muffin is OK.

nah ellibereth is town

How do you come to that conclusion?

because i see an implicit town thought process in the way he posts

[petapan]

That moment where I'm called lurking scum and 3 people have less posts than me. Not sure where those people on my wagon got their BS logic from.

Still reading :X
VOTE: T-Bone

it's for this post actually and you're defense is less than stirring

[petapan]

i don't care about who is on my wagons i care about who the wagon is careening into at 88 mph

[petapan]

are we policy lynching spyrex for irony or what

[petapan]

VOTE: Elmo

Spoiler: Why

VOTE: Milk
BAAAAA

VOTE: Mini Lib

Milk dies next

VOTE: izak

VOTE: Uberninja

elmo is still blatantly scum

Na broski its how I play
VOTE: CC

VOTE: SpyreX

And that's 2/3rds of his Iso. The rest is fluff.

lets be friends

i promise you i will get on that wagon with you at some point because i've been trying to say that but am bad at conveying my points

[petapan]

Alright fuckers. It's like your afraid of voting me. Come on and vote me out of here. This I don't have energy bullshit is weak. If you want me voted out let's go right now. Let's go 1v1 then Chrono. And the rest of you monkeys who want me gone because I've done nothing but sheep. Vote me in your next post or shut the fuck up about my iso.
VOTE: Chrono

oh well if you insist

UNVOTE:

VOTE: elmo

[petapan]

vaguely sensing towntells but you need to stop OMGUSing if you don't want to die

[petapan]

sorry for the triplepost but i keep thinking of more to say

look, elmo, if youre going to play like crap, admit youre playing like crap, and get pissed when people call you on it then don't play the game at all!!!

[petapan]

he's not very opportunistic right now no

[petapan]

it's badly explained but meh there are a lot of people that do that and i'm not sure the milk wagon was that large or unreasonable it's really not worth discussing at this point

[petapan]

novelty of day 1 quickly being replaced with defeatism as the sheer crushing impossibility of actually being able to lynch scum in a setup like this sinks in

[petapan]

VOTE: lowman

Let's lynch the lurkers. let's lynch all the lurkers.

[petapan]

UNVOTE:

we're going to mislynch a lot this game i can tell

this calls for a new approach

who wants to lynch everyone with an anime avatar i think that's a great plan

[petapan]

my enthusiasm for this game has dulled because the thrill of rapidfire shitposting has vanished and the fact that I'm getting a hell of a lot of VT tells and get the feeling we're searching for a needle in a haystack here. I haven't been reading, admittedly, and both kondi and chevre looked like really bad lynches to me (and shameful that kondi got harassed out of the game)

Hell I'll sign on for the plan of killing non contributers even if it means killing me at some point

VOTE: robotnick

[petapan]

lol just lol

[petapan]

VOTE: milk

honestly at this point i'm dealing with a theory that this is a kooky bastard game and there is an abnormally low number of scum in it. There, I said it.

[petapan]

VOTE: milk

honestly at this point i'm dealing with a theory that this is a kooky bastard game and there is an abnormally low number of scum in it. There, I said it.

The thought of a sole SK (and mimes) anti-town force crossed my mind but I dismissed it, so there's that

vote: milk

what about an SK with a one-shot governor power

[petapan]

You're not reading this game

Like at all

let's be honest here, who is actually reading this game

[petapan]

mod: what happens if a player does not submit a night action by deadline?

Nothing at all, the action is wasted

[petapan]

cool so my theory about kairyuu is completely wrong and his slot is probably town but also worthless

VOTE: funkybike1

[petapan]

from what i've seen of jackal, i sort of doubt it

[petapan]

from what i've seen of jackal, i sort of doubt it

Are you suggesting his reaction to his wagon is a towntell, scumtell or nulltell?

Do you have any meta either way?

he's prone to getting frustrated as town and as scum so in general it's null but here it reads as town

[petapan]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: fritzler

weed poop

[petapan]

trevor is probtown, bad vote.

VOTE: sykedoc

in accordance with policy, this should be our vote now.

[petapan]

your next

[petapan]

I wish there were more nightkills...

^

I'm complaining to Myk after the game, the lack of nightkills/daykills really fucked this game.

Who are we lynching

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Fritzler

don't like this post

[petapan]

(one more)

UNVOTE:

VOTE: fritzler

weed poop

Unvote, Vote: Fritzler

Spyrex, what was the point of saying one more vote when Fritz was at L-1, but not voting? But then also voting after someone else hammered?

he wasn't at L-1, I think he just wanted hammer there

[petapan]

just checked and sydedoc looks like he may have site-flaked like kairyuu, which means lynching him is kind of an unfortunate inevitability but i can see why people might want to go elsewhere for now (we need to hit him before we drop below 20 players, though)

i can't read fritzler. he's acting stipud, but not scummy.

vote: fritzler

okay yeah w/e let's get this guy


UNVOTE:
VOTE: manho

[petapan]

do we have 3 or 4 lynches today

I think we have 2 left

this is correct, we had less than 40 alive to start today

[petapan]

don't know where i'm voting yet

nothing is very appealing yet

[petapan]

lurker list was a thing for when we had no other leads

we have leads now

[petapan]

does not caring make him town, though?

fritzler pretty blatantly didn't care either

[petapan]

i don't really want to lynch spyrex

don't feel great about lynching bbmolla either

VOTE: thetrollie

blah

[petapan]

haha he was clearly bluffing if you looked at the order of his reports

VOTE: callforjudgment

[petapan]

and omfg call seriously managed to ignore 3/3 scum lynches

SO FUCKING SCUM

Wow, there were 3 as well. I'd managed to miss manho's flip, somehow. This game's just too large for me to really

do

anything with the flips. (I think I'm on record as saying I don't like larges.)

Meanwhile, you pushed wagons on two scum (and you seem to have been suspiciously sure of yourself), and have completely been avoiding talking about NS or his flip. Does this mean anything? If not, why does it mean anything with me? You seem to care about lynching me more than you care about reasoning.

(Are you third party?)

this is a bad post esp bolded part

[petapan]

That is every single one of dramonic's posts. Can anyone see a townie in there?

possibly, he's really bad at everything all the time so i can't be sure if he's scum

[petapan]

yea bbmolla is town this isnt up for debate i will lynch dissenters

someone start another good wagon so i can sheep it again i don't want to do legwork

[petapan]

here let me help you with that

VOTE: Mastermind of Shit

go away

[petapan]

i'll hammer dramoic if he gets put at L-1

[petapan]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: dramonic

[petapan]

sorry for taking so long, had to find a good .gif for hammering with

[petapan]

Are we not doing the whole claim thing anymore?

what

why would we do that

[petapan]

that seems like a really dumb reason.

[petapan]

Want to lynch one of Petapan or Jackal/Lowman today after looking over VCs.

Vote: Petapan

ha ha, nice case, idiot, but i'm town and so is jackal

[petapan]

Since when do we get day start PMs for this game?

i didnt' get a pm

[petapan]

well i mentioned it because it was interesting that he did

[petapan]

VOTE: MoS

these other wagons are bad.

[petapan]

ehh as a matter of policy it's okay, i just think it's unlikely he will flip scum. if he does though you have my permission to lynch me after him.

[petapan]

And yet you want to vote me? What is wrong with you dude? I'm pretty clearly not scum by this point.

hmm nope you asserting that makes me think the opposite actually!!!

[petapan]

did you guys know that

LowMan/Jackal711
syndromeofadown
Thetrollie
Elmo Teh Azn
Zoraster
chronopie
YYR
Chevre

are all in the game?

there are some lurkers

LowMan/Jackal711 - town
syndromeofadown - dunno
Thetrollie - dunno
Elmo Teh Azn - town (unfortunately)
Zoraster - dunno
chronopie - dunno
YYR - see below
Chevre - town

Without Amrun, this game isn't as fun anymore.

this is a bad post yall

[petapan]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: YYR

[petapan]

should be sheeping me instead

[petapan]

We didn't do that for anyone else.

That's because everyone went "LOLQUICKHAMMRING"
Anyways I'd like less lynches on lurkers and more on scum. Not that they exclude each other.

okay so if you want to lynch scummy posters and not lurkers why are you leading a wagon on sykedoc

im for waiting since i think syke is town, but i don't get why you are saying we should wait for him when we never waited for the other lurkers. why do you think he will respond if we wait anyway?

if you think he's town then join me on YYR

[petapan]

sykedoc probably isn't going to post if he's been dodging this game for 2 weeks

he is a good policy lynch if only for pure policy reasons and nothing more as he's detrimental to the gamestate by being alive.

however i think the way theamatuer is approaching the vote is scummy to say the least

also who the fuck first brought up discussion about angels in-thread because they need to die immediately

YYR's post buddying a dead player he barely interacted with is Bad As Hell

[petapan]

petapan YYR is a bad lynch.

gimme a single bullet point on that because i was resistant to voting him early game but i'm looking at what he's saying lately and not liking it

[petapan]

I think that's a forced reaction tbh it's why I voted him

[petapan]

Without Amrun, this game isn't as fun anymore.

^this but he barely spoke with amrun that's why it bugs me

[petapan]

trollie...

somebody make a list of all of the vote counts with flip colors for me?

petapan, i choose you

lmao

spyrex said he was going to do something heckle him the next time he decides to post

[petapan]

it just reads BS to me, seem to remember something like that happening once before but have absolutely no way to remember the thread and i'm not about to pull a psyche to try to support my gut on this

[petapan]

oops, wrong account, new page

"how come you're not voting me for my REAL scumtells guyz"

[petapan]

the treestump claim was pretty obviously a joke

sleepy is a decent policy lynch he's mentally checked out of this game

do i think he's more likely to be scum than others? not really

[petapan]

Hey peta

Unvote, Vote: syke

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[petapan]

oh wait, i can hammer my bad

VOTE: sykedoc

dont think hes scum but hes pretty clearly abandoned the game so screw it

have to get the policy lynching out of the way at some point but i would really appreesh it if we use the second lynch to scumhunt a little more today if this guy flips town

[petapan]

I agree with that. Peta, what do you think of theam?

scummy. if you were implying such by asking this question i love you

[petapan]

shocker

[petapan]

actually i re-read theam's iso and i'm meh oh him there are a few minor things in it that are suspect (laziness on lynching sykedoc, angel speculation is wtf) but otherwise it's kinda nulltown sorry kondi

feelin like i'd be lazy to go right after YYR now but i'll get back tomorrow and decide how i feel

[petapan]

he's town dude

regrettably

[petapan]

Now we can barely get 10?

Whats the reason(s) for YYR?

mildly opportunistic votes, low content, bad post abt amrun being dead, i didn't like his reaction to being wagoned but at that point i'm biased so you'd have to ask someone else what they think of the way he reacted

hey

hey peregrine

where the heck did you see your supposed connections for your vote on me

really really interested in your answer to this question because right here from where i'm sitting it looks like you pulled a reasoning out of your ass that you couldn't actually back up

[petapan]

"looking over VCs" sorry

how vague can you get

[petapan]

theam name one+ scum read please

[petapan]

no we're not lynching spyrex, reasonable confidence estimate on him being town based on scum ISOs

in fact i'm putting all of the following off limits until the playerlist is severely reduced:

redFF
kondi
spyrex
uberninja
chevre
lowman
elmo
bbmolla

[petapan]

yeah i like trevor too he's just not really mentioned by scum not voting him anytime soon either

decided sleepykrew is probably a VT troll and should be policy'd tomorrow, while we still have two lynches.

VOTE: YYR

[petapan]

Been asking for a YYR lynch since day 1...

your case then was not good

[petapan]

he's already dead guys just wait for the flip

[petapan]

VOTE: peregrineV

wanted to lynch him anyway

(he's saying he's a cop that gets an investigation every night that's a multiple of 5)

[petapan]

Jackal with thie buuuussss

he's town dood

[petapan]

Can anyone confirm that this 'multiple of 5' cop is a real role that's been used in other games?

odd-night/even night cops are fairly common in other games, a very weakened modification in this game isnt altogether unreasonable

there's no incentive for bbmolla to fakeclaim here as scum

[petapan]

bbmolla you're retarded

[petapan]

VOTE: bbmolla

just get out

[petapan]

i know but i'm rly mad about it

[petapan]

yeahhh i know and i was going to lynch him sooner or later anyway but UGH

UNVOTE:

looking at the numbers we have 10 lynches left at best i think, probably 2 scum left at most because of the vote rules and would make nice symmetry with the mime team

LowMan/Jackal711
Muffin wednesday/Kondi2424
Chevre
Elmo Teh Azn
redff
BBMolla
spyrex
Trevor

^dudes i'm pretty sure are town

petapan

^ me

MoS
Sleepykrew
Zoraster

^ need to be policy lynched

zajnet
staeg
zdenek

^all of these dudes totally blend together for me so i need to actually read them

theamateur <- mildly scummy, not a high priority lynch
funkybike1 <- this is a good one, is picking on lurkers hard
syndromeofadown <- gut says town
Thetrollie <- case on SK reads earnest even if i think SK is just a VT that gave up
Kairyuu/Deltawave <- constantly worried why this guy is still alive but not a high priority lynch
TeCHnoWC <- would love to see him go at some point
Ellibereth <- gut says town
chronopie <- town, has abandoned the game. fuck.

so right now my shortlist is

funkybike1
TeCHnoWC
theamateur
MoS
Sleepykrew
Zoraster

which would leave a few lynches to be digured out from the remaining okay let's roll

VOTE: funkybike1

[petapan]

and what was the prediction on the scumcount agin?

i'd say 2. could be as high as 5 but i doubt it

[petapan]

just don't post

add zajnet to the death list

[petapan]

okay, all of zdenek/zajnet/staeg can die

zdenek actually had a real horrible reaction to the fritzler wagon so he should be high priority

that gives 9 planned lynches idk hope i put scum in there somewhere

[petapan]

i was mad, okay

i'm not doing it now am i

but now there's going to be that stupid shadow of doubt all game

[petapan]

i could be but your sample size w/r/t my meta is fairly small and i think that's just you being paranoid because i won a game as scum, ever. i did sheep this game, because i realized it was necessary and frankly i'm not as good at hitting scum as other people were. i don't see how i'm only hitting "popular lynch options" when i just canvassed the entire playerbase, and the people i actually find scummiest (zdenek/zajnet/staeg) haven't really been targeted by anyone much.

but if i have to die i have to die, wouldn't mind too bad if things are fairly well locked down though as it is i think we have a very small concentration of scum in a very large pool

[petapan]

yeah i know you'll nightkill me sooner or later no need to remind me

[petapan]

i've seen furcolow go special as scum in a game actually, but it was a much smaller game when he did it and bbmolla isn't furcolow and i'm thankful for that

[petapan]

predatory pushes on lurkers lack of genuine opinions has vote in a bad place

[petapan]

UNVOTE:

not feelin it

VOTE: zdenek

feelin it

[petapan]

I'd vote for Kondi.
I don't understand the votes on Fritzler.
I think we need to continue purging the lurkers.

Vote: Lowman

I'm willing to switch if I need to, but I think this is a good choice, since he's been somewhat scummy by showing up and jumping on big wagons, and he was at the bottom of one earlier, so if he flips scum, it will be useful.

I don't even care if he is scum

vote: Fritzler

We're not abandoning the purge the lurkers plan.

blah blah blah

OH I'm sorry, did you say something?

We should this piss brained fucktard. He's not going play, and I'm pretty sure that he's aware from other games that if he claims VT and is apathetic people will get a town-read on him (I'm pretty sure that it happened in Consulmaker III, but the game was lost to the crash), so the argument that he's probably town for it is lame.

Zdenek if you are town, I want a Fritzler vote please.

I think that the Frizler wagon is stupid.

if it were just one post i wouldn't think anything of it but twice looks bad and he misses all the following scum wagons so this is going to be the one i go full force on

[petapan]

Also I cant believe competing wagons today both town

i would believe it very strongly on the presumption we have an absurdly small number of scum left

[petapan]

Not feeling zdenek scum. Who the fuck would buddy their scumbuddy that hard when they know he is going to die?

fritzler was at 4/5 votes when he made those posts, his death was far from a foregone conclusion at that point

[petapan]

think theam might be town regardless but it's a hard one to explain

[petapan]

that's okay we're going to kill you today, lord willing

[petapan]

ehh one of the two at this point

[petapan]

it wasn't really clear at all, i did not understand why he was being voted but i hammered just to hammer, as i have done so in multiple other instances

but the reaction of "no we must KILL the LURKERS" ("no zdenek, you are the lurkers." And then zdenek was a lynchee) is one i could see coming from a scumbuddy and i got nothing from you that makes me want to see you live so if you're town make your last day on earth useful

[petapan]

im sorry but where the fuck did this random zdenek wagon come from and why are we not voting legitimately scummy people like kondi/bbmolla

i want to rip you apart for this but for the sake of the game i'll just say you're wrong and if you look at the way flipped scum acted towards these players they are very likely to be town. drop your grudge and actually play the game.

Stupid lurker lynch

it's like you're really not reading the thread

[petapan]

okay w/e dude

[petapan]

really though it's not what you said (it almost never is), it's how you said it

[petapan]

didn't really come with a statement, don't see self-preservation as inherently a scumtell because it's not like he was townreading the guy prior

whoops, getting sloppy.

[petapan]

hey im away for the weekend haven't caught up yet. Is zd a lurker lynch?

no, read my posts, vote him

[petapan]

if he's town i give up as i am clearly horrible

[petapan]

Or your just scum
And BBmolla isnt bothering to be protown at all. Really.

that's true about bbmolla but you can't lynch him for it

[petapan]

i thought i was going to die. damn. now i have to keep trying ugh

zdenek's flip points to elmo, kondi, jackal, and most interestingly, technowc, as town. which is good it means i can stop worrying about him for a while. the other 3 we basically knew already but more confirmation is good.

not strong on leads today. had an ugly thought but want to think it over tomorrow before i post

pe: dont strongly suspect funkybike, his iso is mehhhh but something about the way he claimed gives me pause. which is a silly thing to get hung up on but w/e

[petapan]

i feel really good about a lot of the playerlist right now, in terms of town-tells. that makes me feel comfy. hopefully i'm right on my 6 man scumteam theory because then that makes things niiice and simple

deltawave trying to deflect the wagon on zdenek is lolbad but i almost feel like scum would realize at L-2 to shut up and bus because there was no chance of him not dying then but blegh. he can eat rope somewhere down the line i guess.

MoS or ellibereth should be policy'd today since today is our last double lynch day

[petapan]

I don't think that we should lynch MoS or elli today.

BBMolla still needs to die for that fail yesterday.

a bad post

[petapan]

zajnet
staeg
MoS
Sleepykrew
Deltawave
Zoraster
Ellibereth
~secret scum read~

shortlist for death, as taken from the playerlist, definitely not in this order

[petapan]

I lack townreads on both of them, that's all (although staeg wanting to sheep me makes me feel warm and fuzzy). I'm working by PoE at this point in the game.

[petapan]

I lack townreads on both of them, that's all (although staeg wanting to sheep me makes me feel warm and fuzzy). I'm working by PoE at this point in the game.

[petapan]

have not decided yet, or i'd be voting them. not as many obvious connections.

[petapan]

Wow fucking hell you have tunneled on kondi the entire game despite everyone agreeing that he is obvtown.

he has a grudge against him that extends to outside the game. i'd say more but rule #1.

not sure how illuminating VCA would be given the rules and the likely numbers of scum, but i'll keep an open mind.

[petapan]

apparently DW's slot was claimed as an angel by kairyuu before he flaked, and that there's more than one of them in this game apparently and they have daytalk. if he's lying about it he'll be called on it eventually

VOTE: MoS

needs to go

[petapan]

DW is Kai, right?

yeah. this is where he claimed. it doesn't really make sense as a 3p role, at all, so i'm not bothered by it. (i also never read that claim, until today)

[petapan]

now, wait a second

As of post 485, izakthegoomba was lynched.

However, someone stepped in, and stopped this lynch. In stead, Iceguy was

killed

. He was a

Mime

.

This means the mimes lose, and the surviving ones leave the game. They were Gregory, Agar, Johhog and Izakthegoomba.

2 lynches to go today.

Sixth, I have advised the other angel(s) to refrain from claiming until he/she/they have used their ability at least once or are about to be lynched. As the person stopping the lynch is public, there is no reason not to claim credit once it's been done.

this doesn't jive

if it announced who stopped the lynch then it would basically only make sense as a town role but now i'm suspicious again

[petapan]

killing the mimes was in the interest of every non-mime faction

[petapan]

pulling threats like that makes it look like you're not really playing for the town win condition yknow

[petapan]

there's a 0% chance he has a 5-6 group if they all have lynch redirect powers but at this point in all seriousness it looks like he's bluffing

[petapan]

well if he's bluffing it's because it's all he can hope to do to survive at this point

but, like, logistically does a town mason group with lynch redirecting make sense uhhhhhh

[petapan]

basically though he should get voted at some point and if he's telling the truth and has a town wincon he redirects to a scummy player

if he's lying and/or not playing for the town and kills obvtown then we lynch him until it sticks

[petapan]

fair point

UNVOTE:

VOTE: deltawave

if you're playing for the town here, no worries. just get funkybike killed instead and all's well. you kill trevor or anyone else that's a townread and it's a scumclaim.

[petapan]

Like I said, lynching me is a waste of time but by doing so, you're giving me a kill and I'm going to use that to my discretion.

if this is meant to discourage us from voting you it's having the opposite effect, hope this helps

[petapan]

yeah i know but this is akin to scum claiming super saint or the like, reads as a "fuck off don't lynch me or you'll be sorry" intimidation tactic and if he's telling the truth and is going to NOT kill the guy who's a general scumspect then he deserves to be hanged until dead

[petapan]

yeah i know but this is akin to scum claiming super saint or the like, reads as a "fuck off don't lynch me or you'll be sorry" intimidation tactic and if he's telling the truth and is going to NOT kill the guy who's a general scumspect then he deserves to be hanged until dead

Nope. I gave my reasons for selecting Trevor as the kill if I get lynched. This isn't an intimidation tactic.

Funkybike is probably going to get lynched anyway. If I use the kill it's going to be on someone who isn't likely to be lynched but seems scummy.

if you kill trevor it's a scumclaim, straight up

[petapan]

HOLY SHIT! will one of you just answer my fucking question already? I dont care if you think it matters or not, I clearly do and need to know.

it's not explicitly town, as it's not a common role, so no.


Zajnet: the scum clearly don't give a rat's ass about deltawave or his partners and the way he's responding to pressure is not reassuring, to say the least

[petapan]

if he's town then it's a town-directed kill

aka there is literally no drawback to doing so

[petapan]

delta give us one reason you should not be voted

[petapan]

yeah welll what if i don't buy it

what reasons aren't there to vote you

i don't get it

[petapan]

"it's stupid" doesn't really hold water with me so why do you care so much either way

if you're telling the truth there's no downside

why are you resisting something which has no disadvantage so strongly

[petapan]

zajnet
staeg
MoS
Sleepykrew
Deltawave
Zoraster
Ellibereth
~secret scum read~

shortlist for death, as taken from the playerlist, definitely not in this order

any of these i would consider acceptable shots

i do not particularly read funkybike as scum but i now other people do and that's never going to go away, so.

[petapan]

votecount

funkybike1 (5): zajnet, jackal711, TechnoWC, syndromeofadown, trevor
deltawave (5): Spyrex, kondi2424, petapan, staeg, thetrollie
Mastermind of Sin (2): petapan, theamatuer
kondi (1): redff
staeg (1): deltawave

this has my vote in 2 places, i'm not voting MoS anymore

[petapan]

On the current people being pushed:

The only point about the bbmolla wagon that I think holds water is that that Rhinox was suspicious of him. The points against him dont't really separate him from anyone else.
I think Techno is scum, mostly because of his play since we've had two scum lynches and that fact that Rhinox was suspicious of him is a good poiint.
I am less certain about Spyrex. The fact that he's decided to only post hammers is annoying, and post hammer vote on Fritz is a concern.

Vote: Techno

don't lynch tech

zajnet looks like he's deltawave's partner tbh. there. i said it.

i think sleepykrew and zoraster are both low-percentage necessary evil lynches. they've abandoned the game and i doubt they'd play up a strategy of sending in kills to the QT every night without posting, i just dont buy it. anyone who's at least still posting (MoS, ellibereth) is more likely to be scum. sk/zor should be last resort lynches when people have no better leads.

[petapan]

okay, interesting, though it probably means they're just ignoring them completely like jerks

today is a good day to lynch one of them actually since it's our last multi-lynch day

[petapan]

i can't understand half that post

[petapan]

deltawave is a claimed lynch-redirector who's part of a group with unrevealed members. some people don't trust him, amazingly enough, given the flips in this game.

there are 5 flipped scum, read them.

give opinions on any of the following:

zajnet
staeg
theamateur
MoS
Sleepykrew
spyrex
syndromeofadown
Thetrollie
Ellibereth

[petapan]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: sleepykrew

I would bet money on him being a VT but I've decided I want to get rid of him

[petapan]

i just want someone to fucking die already

[petapan]

VOTE: deltawave

this game is going to be hell on earth in like 3 game days when activity collapses

[petapan]

do you care about scumhunting right now

[petapan]

I made a case against Staeg regarding his voting habits and Trevor for absurd reasons for this wagon. That's a hell of a lot more than either one of you did recently.

wrong, fucko

[petapan]

Real useful there cfj

hammer delta

[petapan]

Assuming that DW doesn't just die (that would be funny), then this was a stupid waste of time, energy, and one of the angels' redirects, and we need to start lynching from the people who just said "fuck scumhunting let's just lynch delta."

I really don't understand why funky never got lynched. Damn near everyone in the game has said at one point or another that we should lynch him (or at least it feels that way), yet the wagon never made it.

okay we get it you're the other angel, that doesn't mean we're going to listen to you

[petapan]

congrats deltawave you're the most retarded piece of shit in this game, which is saying something because redFF is still in it

now never redirect a lynch again or you will be voted until the lynch sticks because anyone that fucking dumb deserves to be lynched

VOTE: MoS

[petapan]

Well done Delta.

Why couldn't you have redirected onto someone the whole town agreed upon? There was a whole list of better candidates. Yeah sure, one of them might have flipped VT as well but at least Trevor was actively contributing.

I don't see how this makes Delta town. Someone please explain it to me because atm he's just coming across as an intimidating, defiant, only looking out for himself scumbag.

he's actually just a horrible fucking moron asshole crybaby douche who was mad he got voted even though everyone did it under the pretense he was going to live but it makes zero sense for scum to have multiple lynch redirects

but at least we got out of this that zajnet is obviously his partner, so it means we can write both of them off and ignore them forever until scum kills them

[petapan]

MoS
zoraster
ellibereth

these are th next 3 lynches, non-negotiable. if the game's still going after that, get theamatuer.

[petapan]

haha oh wow

anyway

VOTE: Staeg

P-Edit: lol you mad peta?

yes actually i'm mad that a dumb fucker like you is in this game, is unlynchable, has absolute redirect power, and is blatantly not playing to the town win condition

it would be like giving redFF an unilimted dayvig

it's fucking dumb

[petapan]

like i bet the scum won't even shoot you despite that power being literally gamebreaking, because you're that fucking awful

chew on that one for a bit

[petapan]

there is 0 merit in anything you do, because you can't scumhunt, lmao

okay i'm ignoring you after this post because it's a distration to the rest of the game

everyone should just ignore deltawave from now on because he's worthless and talking to him is a huge waste of time

glad we've all learned something today

[petapan]

I'm going to follow petapan's lead until we get all the unreadables out of the way. VOTE: MOS

I really don't think MOS is a great lynch, though.

tell me about who you think is

[petapan]

elmo is still in this game. he's also still town. he's part of the triangle of regret that includes him/bbmolla/redFF.

[petapan]

It was between SpyreX and Elmo before. And if Elmo wants to be lynched so badly…

(I'd favour Chronopie for town over Elmo any day.)

VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN

i can pull more if i really have to

[petapan]

ehhh
what happened with those three

pr shit or contentwise>?

all of them got pressure-wagoned at some point and towntold. later flipped scum was found to have wagoned them in a manner that did not seem indicative of bussing

[petapan]

i'll only take MoS to be an angel if delta out and out claims he is otherwise he needs death more than anyone

[petapan]

I kind of want to just lynch an angel ad infinitum until they die.

If you're town, play to your wincon instead of playing to emotions plox

This goes for a bunch of other people as well

"hey bro there's a huge speck in your eye"

[petapan]

that was very dumb.

VOTE: staeg

do not sheep deltawave. page 145 makes staeg look like he might be town. vote MoS.

[petapan]

okay bye

[petapan]

we'll keep it in mind