The game of the year: town won!

[PeregrineV]

If Mimes are a threat to town, then by all means let's mime-hunt. Otherwise, aside from screwing up vote count analysis (if those are even possible in a game this size), they should be scumhunting and are more annoyance than threat.

Rhinox plan is good, and he'll stay a town read for it.
I think the portion of the plan people are missing is that each group will be looked at closely by all players, and focus should be on that group for a few days. This does not preclude you from scumhunting elsewhere, but it will be the FOCUS group.
If that's too much to think about, consider it multi-tasking. Scumhunt everybody while simultaneously scumhunting in that group.

Am down with the TML lynch, but he's climbing back up from the scumpool, and I have no probelem letting him contiue redeeming himself.

However, Rhinox votes are bad.

Vote: Dramonic

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5 weeks? At this rate we'll be lucky to go 5 days.

Feels like were playing lynch the poster, which isn't smart.

Vote: Holding off any more lynches until all players have checked in or 24 hours from the start of the game.

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14 hours until the next lynch- minimum!!

@Mod- Can you quote future player -produced vote counts so it's easier to find them later in ISO?

pedit: Gah!

Vote: Trevor

[PeregrineV]

If we were to do it it would need to be a somewhat of a democracy.

Thats how it would work in practice. No one is really going to be OK with 1 person deciding who we're lynching and then

baaaaaaa~aaa~aa~

. Its more like, this group of people makes the decisions, and you don't lynch from within that group until thats all who's left. Basically steamroll everyone else and hit most of the scum even though you pancake some townies as well in the process - assuming those making up the group are reasonably better than random at figuring out who's town.

pedit: tbone invite hoopla into the club before she ruins all the fun.

This. I would consider a in-thread masonry with TBone, Rhinox, & TechNow. Future additions pending.

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If we were to do it it would need to be a somewhat of a democracy.

Thats how it would work in practice. No one is really going to be OK with 1 person deciding who we're lynching and then

baaaaaaa~aaa~aa~

. Its more like, this group of people makes the decisions, and you don't lynch from within that group until thats all who's left. Basically steamroll everyone else and hit most of the scum even though you pancake some townies as well in the process - assuming those making up the group are reasonably better than random at figuring out who's town.

pedit: tbone invite hoopla into the club before she ruins all the fun.

This. I would consider a in-thread masonry with TBone, Rhinox, & TechNow. Future additions pending.

Oh yeah, and Wednesday Muffin.

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Not voting the top 6 wagons.

Vote: Captain Corporal

would also prefer to cull the non-posting.

Someone had a good list.

Adding Kariyou to my town list.

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Okay I can already tell this game is going to be a bitch. I'm gone for 2 days and there's already like 37 pages to read through and a bunch of people are dead. I'm going to read through what I missed right now so I'm not completely lost or someone can be nice and give me a tl;dr version in the meantime.

Don'tt really need one. Go back 3-4 pages and you'll be fine.

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This. I would consider a in-thread masonry with TBone, Rhinox, & TechNow, Wednesday Muffin, Kairyuu

Still stick by this.

Add Amrun to my list.

More later, but some are tricky (spryeX, etc.)

Also, Kondi=Muffin?
That's cool.

Don't be mad you got caught Trevor. Just don't vote obtown like Rhinox next time when they suggest non-random lynching.

And argument by repetition? Perhaps you should include it in your sig....

Vote: Trevor

[PeregrineV]

votecount

luffy (3): spyrex, staeg, TechnoWC
BBmolla (3): theamateur, uberninja, zajnet
amrun (2): MattP, BBmolla
PeregrineV (1): Hoopla
lowman (1): amrun, elmo teh azn
RedFF (1): Lowman
PeregrineV (1): trevor
YYR (1): RedFF
Spyrex (1): callforjudgement
Trever (1): PeregrineV

@Mod, can you combine my two better halves- I have a line for each vote on me. thx!
And lowman has two votes if they both count.

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Still want BBMolla around for a while. But the day must move forward, and Luffy is giving more than Lowman.

Vote: Lowman

@spryeX- Try Lowman on for size. The game turns normal at 17 players.

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um. apparently this game started. yeah... 41 pages in. Not going to read all of that. will be following now.

VOTE: Peregrine

Found scum.

I'm getting the feeling you skipped the last 600 posts too.

Vote Lowman and move the game forward.

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Luffy lynch was dumb. Lowman was just better alternative, but should stop voting self unless scum.

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chevre reeks of scum who was hiding under the radar, then finds a wagon to hop on but feels he needs to overjustify the vote

VOTE: chevre

Agree with this. Instead of mega-case to lynch the VT, could have used that time/brainpower for the legandary 50 player vca.

Vote: Chevre

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@Chevre- Then, think about getting a scum role in a 50 player game. How much do you post to get by?
If you signed up for the game and got a VT role and really didn't want to play anyway, how much do you post?
I think we should lynch from those areas.

MoS may be a good candidate, but what do you think of any of the current wagons?

The deal-making is not real, and it's between all of 3 people, and they are still accountable for any votes they make.

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We need to lynch kondi and get on with it. People keep getting distracted by other wagons. I wonder why...

Do you not like Kondi's posts, or the Muffins posts?

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UNVOTE: Chevre

This one is going too fast.

More OMGUS needed.

Vote: zoraster

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Not up for the Milk lynch. There are better lurkers.

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AGar 2012-05-16 10:37:26 13 days 4 hours 8
Mastermind of Sin 2012-05-21 04:16:09 8 days 11 hours 7
funkybike1 2012-05-28 21:11:06 0 days 18 hours 6
dramonic 2012-05-25 18:09:22 3 days 21 hours 5
sykedoc 2012-05-24 02:46:43 5 days 12 hours 5
zoraster 2012-05-26 15:37:52 2 days 23 hours 4

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Vote: BBMolla

Only person insinuated to be not town by Rhinox day2 and didn't get lynched.

[PeregrineV]

Fritzler has 5 votes. Anyone got a reason besides "yeah, sounds good."?

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so we're just ignoring the lurker list?
btw, I think I have an idea on scumteam no. 2. Care to listen?

@Theam- Manho had 23 posts and Fritzler 47. Instead of sright up lurkers, this range might be better.
I'd like to hear about your scumteam #2 theory. And why you think such a thing might exist. And do you mean #3? Because mimes #1, mafia #2 so far.

@Amrun- Join the BBmolla wagon and then we'll lynch callforgjudgement.

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Please kill me kthx

Vote BBmolla and I promise to vote you soon after.

pedit: SpryeX, if scum, would be equally as willing to lynch his buddies, so I say keep him around.

[PeregrineV]

I'm confused and useless.

But are you scum?

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@Zaj- I liked you Zoraster vote better.

Still missing like 12 peoples votes (and posts).

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PV, what is your read on Spyrex? You said that if he was scum he would be an asset to town; do you think he is scum then?

Not really, else I'd be voting him.
The fact that Kondi and Amrun and you are all voting Sprye makes me strongly want to vote him, but I'd rather see what he posts first.

Is there a particularly good reason he's up for being lynched? I saw soemthing about a post-hammer hammer, but is there more somewhere?

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@Zaj- I liked you Zoraster vote better.

I might be persuaded to vote for him again if a wagon ever forms, but NS is more likely to be scum imo.

I think we can put NS to L-1 and if he's scum he self-hammers, but doesn't as town. Or am I mis-remembering?

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so we're just ignoring the lurker list?
btw, I think I have an idea on scumteam no. 2. Care to listen?

@Theam- Manho had 23 posts and Fritzler 47. Instead of sright up lurkers, this range might be better.
I'd like to hear about your scumteam #2 theory. And why you think such a thing might exist. And do you mean #3? Because mimes #1, mafia #2 so far.

@theam-You never gave this, did you?

Manho 23

Nobody Special 35

Fritzler 47

Vote: SleepyKrew

with 26.

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wait, mattp said spyrex was town?

i am confuse.

Yes, when he fakeclaimed daycop, he claimed he investigated SpryeX and he was town. He then said NS was scum from a day1 investigation. So we lynched NS.

Only person left in hypothetical "vig pool" is BBMolla.

On the Vig shooting argument: I remember hearing someone saying something about a Mafia Doctor?

In that case, I think the Vig(s) should either shoot BBmolla OR IceGuy.

Fine, add Johhog into the pool. IceGuy, BBmolla, or Johhog.

It's probably best not to try to form vig pools in situations where you have multiple vigs and expect them all to be town, or acting as town. (If a killing role isn't acting as town, then they aren't a vig.) I've been thinking about directing from pools, and decided that it's only a good idea either as part of a breaking strategy, or when you suspect some of the people you're directing are fakeclaiming scum and want to have a reasonable chance of overlapping targets.

In this case, overlapping vig targets are bad; we want as many town-directed kills overnight as possible, rather than kills on just the obvious targets. This means that although vigs should feel free to aim for obvious targets, they should also feel free to spread their shots around if they have a hunch; we'll have more dead scum on average that way, and also more dead townies who would have wasted mislynches. (If someone's going to be lynched anyway and you vig them, and the lynch that would have been used on them instead hits scum, that's just as good.)

@BB- are you town? Can you link me to a town game you finished?

[PeregrineV]

Vote: MoS

but willing to sheep Amrun fairly hard, so will hammer if Hoopla goes to L-1.

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Mmk PV let's test that.

Vote: Hoopla

No worries.

Vote: Hoopla

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I am a daycop. I investigated SpyreX right now and he came up inno. I had investigated NS yesterday and he came up guilty. I didn't want to roleclaim this early but Idgaf.

UNVOTE: SpyreX

If NS flips scum you can lynch me next.

I am inclined to believe you because this would be an odd stage to claim. Still, if NS does flip town, imma look at you with heavy suspicion and that you were defending SpyreX as your scumbuddy. I wouldn't take it as a definite though.

Unvote

Wait, didn't read the part about finding NS guilty.

Vote: NS

Siiiiiiiigh

When this was all a dumb, dumb "gambit" let it be known that Techno claimed actual scum right above.

So explain how/why he claimed scum.

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VOTE: Nobody Special

I'm not sure I believe MattP's claim, but testing it is definitely worth spending a lynch on anyone.

MattP is so obviously lying it's not funny. At no point does he vote for nobody special until just now.

Zoraster, how about you STFU and lynch me when I'm wrong instead of whining about it.

I didn't say you were scum. I said you were lying.

VOTE: Nobody Special

I'm not sure I believe MattP's claim, but testing it is definitely worth spending a lynch on anyone.

^Scum, this is an example of a player that DOES care but just played the, "wah Idc I'm desperate for a quicklynch card". Call is scum.

MattP is so obviously lying it's not funny. At no point does he vote for nobody special until just now.

Actually, didn't he just claim three investigations and there has only been two nights?

MattP is so obviously lying it's not funny. At no point does he vote for nobody special until just now.

Actually, didn't he just claim three investigations and there has only been two nights?

I am a daytime cop.

Are you claiming a guilty on him too?

Techno is probscum too.

Kondi, no, but don't worry babe I'll investigate him next investigations all around!1

He said:

Spyrex town
NS scum
Kondi town

Too many investigations and not enough nights, right?

Unvote

Someone please confirm this shit

Pedit: Ok

Vote: NS

Claim + reactions.

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Huh I thought he mentioned kondi there too.

Hrmm. Nevermind and carry on

As in I will sheep Kondi? Yes, but third after UN and Amrun. He was wrong about Call.

Kondi too could be the Godfather but I doubt it more than the sky being fucking black but pretending to be blue.

You think there is a GF.

Do you think there is a doc?

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There can't be "a doc" or "a JK" since their only target, a claimed cop, died.

So seeing no evidence of a PR except the one governor dude, I'm wondering why there is GF speculation.

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Vote: dramonic

@Amrun- need a scumlynch, please report to the thread.

[PeregrineV]

Want to lynch one of Petapan or Jackal/Lowman today after looking over VCs.

Vote: Petapan

[PeregrineV]

Now we can barely get 10?

Whats the reason(s) for YYR?

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Now we can barely get 10?

Whats the reason(s) for YYR?

mildly opportunistic votes, low content, bad post abt amrun being dead, i didn't like his reaction to being wagoned but at that point i'm biased so you'd have to ask someone else what they think of the way he reacted

hey

hey peregrine

where the heck did you see your supposed connections for your vote on me

really really interested in your answer to this question because right here from where i'm sitting it looks like you pulled a reasoning out of your ass that you couldn't actually back up

You rode Elmo along with two scum from Vc 1125 to vc 1264.
Rode robotnick lynch with 2 scum 2095 and 2100 (with Jackal)
Hammered town milk 2172
So tried for town points with Fritzler hammer 2291
skipped NS wagon after cop claim
But jumped quickly on CFJ wagon (#2)
But then hammered town dramonic

All this can be found in 3167.

If not you, what do you think of SpryeX and Jackal?

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Vote: YYR

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Sweet mercy. Thank you!!

VT here.

Lynch BB if you know whats good for you. Fake claiming cop with 20+ players left, and immediately being shown to be bogus? lol

Late, and GL town!