The game of the year: town won!

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I have arrived. Give me a sec to read over this.

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As of Post 10, Hoopla isn't a Mime. Too switchy.

theam's Post 8 gives me a town feeling in that I doubt he would feel the need to say it as scum.

Rhinox's Post 18 sucks, and he should be burned. In a fire.

Rhinox's Post 27 contradicts his Post 32. He's okay with a policy lynch first, but he's not okay with "lol policy lynch chesskid." Regardless, this means he's not a Mime.

I suspect Fritzler of being a Mime.

Syndrome's Post 38 feels way off, though I can see the reasoning. TML seemed to be agreeing to the masses on the PL due to AGar's explanation. IGMEOY.

Rhinox's Post 44 has the same reasoning as ^, and gives more reasoning for him scum.

AGar gets it. Town reads on him.

Hoopla's Post 53 doesn't feel scum-motivated, at all. Her first sentence almost definitely wouldn't have been so blatant if she were scum.

izak's Post 69 is stupid. Scum wouldn't accidentally call themselves scum as a slip.

Hoopla's Post 71 is confusing. Neither feels like a "slip" at all. And izak's opportunism in the post after makes it all the worse. As well as NS's.

Rhinox's complete ignoring of the IceGuy occurrences could make IceGuy scum, however.

Johhog's Post 97 sucks because of his reasoning. Both of those statements make perfect sense of each other.

Syndrome's response to the flip feels prepared. Mime suspect.

I REALLY don't like Chevre's Post 131. It doesn't really seem like it's contributing much of anything, and I disagree with most of it.

MattP's not a Mime.

imaginlaity is full of town, as is PV.

BB is obviously scum of some sort, and should be vigged.

UberNinja is being blatant town on Page 9. Bad town, but town nonetheless.

I'm going to be a part of the redFF policy lynch. VOTE: redFF

Izak becomes more scum on Post 268, as BB should be as obvious as redFF, and he had already expressed suspicion of izak.

As of his last post, petapan is probably town.


I'm getting really sick of the rapid-fire posting here. So far, izak, Rhinox, syndrome, and Chevre are likely scum, Fritzler is likely a Mime, Johhog, IceGuy, and BBmolla have a good chance at both, and UN, MattP, petapan, Hoopla, PV, and imaginality are all likely town.

WTF PEOPLE

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@BB: You're either scum or a Mime, and the reason is being obvious earlier on that page where you "claimed scum" and then used WIFOM to fuck with everyone.

Also note that my main knows you.

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@SpyreX: I was posting in chronological order, and half the game appeared while I was reading.

@Matt: So every scum is goin to claim a PR at this point? I mean, I'll go for an izak lynch, but I want to hear your justification for why scum would never claim VT here first.

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Fair enough. VOTE: izak

I'm just afraid redFF will never die if we don't lynch him now.

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@BBmolla: He's not going to be helpful at all...

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@Hoopla: Besides wagon analysis, could you give your read on izak?

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On the Vig shooting argument: I remember hearing someone saying something about a Mafia Doctor?

In that case, I think the Vig(s) should either shoot BBmolla OR IceGuy.

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Fine, add Johhog into the pool. IceGuy, BBmolla, or Johhog.

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That's a pretty bad list, T-Bone.

Also, it's nine to lynch.

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But it's WIFOM, Hoopla. If he knew this, he could claim VT in hopes of it being a stupid scum move and coast.

Not sure he'd think of it, but still.

@T-Bone: I disagree with Rhinox, syndrome, Chevre, and NS.

PEdit: TML was lynched at 9.

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@T-Bone: I was talking about the town reads. I disagree with those four.

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I've done it. But meh. You're not his partner, so I don't really care.

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Also, callforjudgement townslipped in 498 by mentioning the possibility of pre-game talk when mykonian obviously started the game as soon as PMs were sent out.

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Matt, that's a good idea in theory, but some of those players will not really be useful in a voting bloc.

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Fair enough. VOTE: izak

I'm just afraid redFF will never die if we don't lynch him now.

Who are you, do you know me, and is the only reason you think a policy lynch on me is a good idea from listening to other people in this game?

answer the question

Do some scumhunting.

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Fine. I know you, and I was fine with policy lynching you when I signed up for this game. I'm not revealing myself, though.

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Matt, I'll wait for mykonian to post the VC before I consider that.

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T-Bone, important question; why was I added to your town list? It seems like it only happened after a few other people started calling me town.

Calling it a night.

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Meh, I have like five minutes and I see people online, particularly T-Bone.

Hurry up.

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Makes enough sense.

Whoever said they had scummeta on T-Bone, I want links.

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VOTE: BBmolla

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TeCh, are you an alt?

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Anyone else willing to throw TeCh in the town pile?

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/inb4Rhinoxsays"wtf"

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/inb4Rhinoxsays"wtf"

Win.

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You realize Ice was a Mime, right?

Getting to this soon.

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We're waiting for a claim, at least. I also want to see a post with some pretty good reasoning.

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exactly

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VOTE: Moneybags

Rereading now.

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Hoopla's not scum though.

Anyway, I agree with Matt on having a five townie block, as long as they all agree that they are town.

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I think it's likely that scum will attempt to bus today (towncred for leading the only D1 scumlynch etc.). Also, very much doubting the giant scumteam idea as well, as if there were ten or more, they could mislynch. And mislynch. And mislynch.

Anyway, starting with Page 12:


Uber's #297 would be completely pointless as scum, and would only serve purpose as a Mime.

BB's 315 sucks

Fritzler has said after both of the first two lynches that he will keep his word to Hoopla and vote redFF, but he keeps backing out of it until Hoopla disagrees with it. Not really telling, just fucked up. If redFF is scum, though, Fritzler dies ASAP.

BB's 325 fucks up all of my reads on him. No idea on BB anymore, he just needs to be vigged ASAP

izak's 345 makes me think redFF is town, at least from his actual judgement. He's playing to get lynched, he realizes that redFF is about to be called obvtown, and he calls him scum.

Milk's posts are bad in general, and I wouldn't mind lynching him.

Post 394 is full of win. The guy who posted that post deserves a medal.

Luffy's 400 reads unnecessary and therefore gut town.

Matt's 406 wouldn't be so cocky if he were scum.

Kairyuu's 437 fits with his Dayvig ability and seems to be looking for a reason to shoot somebody. Kairyuu can be town.

T-Bone's 443. First of all all of his town reads suck, so he has that going for him. Second, it's hard to believe that the first thing he thinks of is a voting bloc, not just a list of town reads. Leans scum.

Hoopla's 467 refusal to give real reason is town, plus she has a good point.

T-Bone adding me on his town list for no apparent reason other than others calling me town is suspect, and I don't particularly believe his reasoning after. (plus, his reads still suck)

Matt's 524 practically confirms him as town. Unless T-Bone is scum, in which case, he'll still be a pretty big town read.

I'm disappointed by Zdenek's play. Zdenek, you should pick it up.

Does Fritzler always play like he's playing? I feel like he was trying to look like a Mime before the Mimes died.

Milk's 619 has no scum motivation at all.

TeCh's posts are full of town.

I can tell that manho is likely to be completely useless and should die soon. But unfortunately, he's also likely to be town.

I'm scared of Luffy being a "hammerer" third party or something of the sort. I suggest we don't allow Luffy any hammers anymore. but seriously.

Kairyuu's claim rocks, and he's town unless he's some fucked up third party.

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So, reads list, from most town to least town:

MOST DEFINITELY TOWN

callforjudgement
MattP
Kairyuu
petapan
UberNinja
Hoopla
redFF

LIKELY TOWN

TeCh
Luffy
PeregrineV
imaginality
manho

NO FUCKING CLUE

Milk
zajnet, Staeg, sykedoc, theamatuer, Lupo, funkybike1, SKrew, Robotnick, CC, dramonic, TheTrollie, Elmo TeH AzN, Zoraster, Trevor, Ellibereth, Chronopie, & YYR
Amrun, NS, SpyreX, MoS

SOMEWHAT SCUMMY

syndrome
Chevre
BBmolla

SCUMMY

Rhinox
Zdenek
T-Bone
Fritzler

VOTE: Fritzler

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But he's town. It doesn't really matter if he's a sucky troll. I'm pretty sure he's town, and lynching people you're pretty sure are town is bad.

Will you settle for a Vig-direction to UberNinja?

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Can you guys provide reasoning for UberNinjavscum besides loltroll?

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I'm not quoting them because they are huge, but check posts 810 and 811.

Muffin, why are you voting Fritzler? I saw one line of reasoning in that wall (that he hasn't lived up to a promise) which comes down to forgetfulness, indecisiveness or being a dick, not really trying scumtells. THEN Uber quotes it and considers it good reasoning, and votes Fritzler also. I would agree that Uber has been a loltroll for most of this game (not really scummy, but unhelpful to town), but those two posts seem pretty shady.

Muffin, you have any other reason for voting Fritzler?

Not really much more reason than that, besides the fact that I get nothing that makes me think he's town from his posts. Usually town gives at least some sort of towntell, even if accompanied with scumtells.

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I'll hop on the T-Bone wagon if Fritzler won't take off.

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@Amrun: His promising to lynch redFF to Hoopla feels forced, especially after he switched off both times and never really pushed the lynch every time. His posts feel "off", sort of VI-like but intelligent enough, and I can't find a single town-tell from him.

Good enough compared to everyone else for me.

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T-Bone: redFF, petapan, manho, Fritzler, and all the lurkers have anti-town behavior. Are they all anti-ton?

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I actually approve of that, as long as it doesn't cost a lynch.

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VOTE: T-Bone

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Now let's lynch T-Bone, Fritzler, Zdenek, syndrome, Rhinox, BB, or Chevre. Preferred in that order.

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Based on the point I brought up in my second post, along with no town-tells from you. If you contribute more, I'll be able to get more of a read on you, but you're scummy until then.

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@Zdenek: So can you compile that and the other reasons you think I'm scum into one post?

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1. Town reads are MUCH easier to get than town reads. I'm pretty sure I've said this somewhere before. As for the other reads, it's a pretty big game. I'll try to justify my reads better in the future, though.

2. Explain.

3. He claimed VT, he was likely getting lynched anyway, he wasn't really being useful, and claiming VT had already saved one person. I think my hammer was justified.

What are your reads besides me being scum?

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1. That's an opinion problem, then. And I used an alt for a reason.

2. I am reading the thread, which should be obvious by my posts that are made *while analyzing the thread*. But I'll humor you.

Manho is a slight town read because he is posting shit which should be blatantly anti-town. I don't know if manho is above (or below) the level he appears to be at, but I don't think he'd be like that as scum.

MoS did sorta the same thing manho did, but with more AtE. I think he could pull off the blatant anti-town look as scum. It's mostly null, however, because his post was based on emotion.

3. Yes, because all town have the same thought process.

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Because my thought process was a town thought process, and it was different from his opinion of a town thought process.

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Because he was a generally useless claimed VT, I know he's usually useless and I wasn't going to get a sudden message from God telling me he was town.

And for the sake of it, he was going to get lynched anyway.

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EVERYONE you know?

I know you.

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Yessir VOTE: CC

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@Kairyuu: He's completely null, but why not? He's useless.

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@TeCh: Because I already knew I wasn't going to be against a Moneybags lynch. Plus, rereading took like three hours.

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If you think I'm scum, why aren't you voting me?

But to answer your question: Kairyuu, mith, and YamiChan.

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All three of them are obviously not actually claiming to be with anyone, as one was the person asking the question and the other two are not even in the game.

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Oh

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You've been riding T-bone for having bad town reads and claiming he got his reads from random.org WHEN YOU YOURSELF have inconsistent reads and you hate him for having a long list of town reads he doesn't explain when YOU YOURSELF do the same.

Your case on me is horrible. Your whole thing was based on the fact that you think I'm a mime, but then you call me non-mime in the exact same post and now you say I'm scum even though the mimes are all dead! Complete inconsistancy.

But it's not just me. Your case on Chevre is equally bad. You actually gave no reason for hating him so much other than "I disagree with him". Actually, I could go on, you're pushing so many BS cases at once, your scumreads are my town read and you've given town-reads to people I think are blatantly scummy and I generally dislike that.[/quote]

What the fuck is this?

It seems like you're problem is that you think I'm super-suspicious of the people I put in my scum list. I'm not super-suspicious of ANYONE. My scumlist consists of people who have done small suspicious things and haven't given me any town vibes. My TOWN list is concrete.

That probably answers most of your post.

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I'd rather VOTE: T-Bone at this point.

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Fair enough. VOTE: SpyreX

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@MattP: Spy is sure T-Bone is town. Spy is not stupid; if he's town, T-Bone is 99% town. However, I doubt he would be stupid enough to ACTUALLY want his own lynch over T-Bone's, so he's either scum or town who knows something.

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Think about it this way; is there any situation where SpyreX is town and T-Bone is scum?

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UNVOTE:

@SpyreX:

Confirm whether or not you and T-Bone are Masons ASAP.

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^

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Actually Matt, that's getting sigged.

PEdit: He'd rather himself get lynched than T-Bone. That's not just a read.

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But Spy isn't stupid.

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You read that far, redFF?

Yeah I'm kondi. And no one had a problem with it until they knew. So let's pretend we don't.

I'll get scumhunting stuff done tomorrow.

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Hey red if you would explain what is wrong with me? Especially since there was no problem with me until I was kondi.