Bastard Mod mafia - GAME OVER!

[ChannelDelibird]

Vote: KaleiDoscope

because I don't like alt-codes.

Also, lol @ CES.

[ChannelDelibird]

Thank you, MoS, Fortify, thank you Fritzler, for sacrificing your valuable votes on an unworthy player such as me.

Phew! I am sweating bullets from this intense pressure for me to claim, why, I am near being lynched, maybe I can help push you all over the edge to finish me off without looking scummy.

This may be "Bastard Mod," but I will have to nominate my role for "worst role ever."

It's so absurdly bad, the Mod didn't even bother giving it a name.

I do have a name for it, though, and that name is "Loser."

(1) There is no win condition for me. I have already lost. That's my role. I have lost.
(2) I cannot acquire a win condition. I am guessing this to mean that even if I were recruited by some cult, if there is one, I still can't win.
(3) My role is that I have lost.

There is a very useless feature about my role. Well, useless to me, anyway. It really doesn't make much sense at all, I had to inquire to make sure I read correctly. But there is something that might come up. It still won't make me win, though.

If I say what it is, it will prevent it from working. There is one turn of event that might occur, and that turn of event would result in one scum revealing him or herself.

Not that I care.

I have already lost.

So you can lynch me, or vig me, or the Mafia can take care of me at night, please.

Or I can hang around until that scumtell comes up, which it might or might not, I can't promise anything. If you do keep me around, I doubt I'll be checking this game regularly, so don't be shy to have me mod-prodded if anything turns up.

COUNT of MAGNANIMOUS, GENEROUS, MERCIFUL VOTES:

DGB 3: (MoS, Fritzler, Fortify)

I believe you. I don't think scum would advertise their own death and lowered activity in the game that much.

Mod:

you bastard.

unvote, mercy vote: DG

[ChannelDelibird]

unvote

[ChannelDelibird]

Thinking about it, here's our possibilities that I see:

-DG is telling the truth.
-DG is some sort of post-restricted pro-town role that needs to be lynched in order to get an ability.
-DG is scum trying to slip by with this kind of a claim.

In all three cases, there is no actual downside to lynching him.

Unvote, Vote DrippingGoofball

The downside of the first option is that we lynch a neutral instead of trying to lynch scum.

Interesting idea, Masterchief. I hadn't thought of that, but it's possible.

[ChannelDelibird]

Ok, so we know viper isn't the loser role or anything similar, because he has a win condition. Information ftw!

Not necessarily

You win if...pigs fly, Trinidad & Tobago win the FIFA World Cup, and Fritzler decides to get a sex change. Otherwise you can't win.

Anyway, on a more serious note,

unvote (if I'm voting), vote: Shamrock

. Very interesting claim, and we should definitely test it.

[ChannelDelibird]

LLYNCH ME! LYNCH ME NOW!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I WILL NIGHT KILL YOU ALL!!!
I HAVE A POWER ROLE TO DO THAT!( At least to kill most of you.)

My gut says you are telling the truth.

unvote, Vote: masterchief

[ChannelDelibird]

What's with all the suicidal people here? Look what happened in PR Mega. DO NOT lynch Mastercief yet!

I am quite convinced that VisMaior is prepared to allow Masterchief to kill a lot of people tonight if he avoids being lynched today.

[ChannelDelibird]

Bah. I'll go against my gut to test the cop. But if Masterchief kills half of us in the night, don't blame me.

unvote, vote: Shamrock

[ChannelDelibird]

Hi Mariyta. Now claim or die.

[ChannelDelibird]

And just a basic townie in "Bastard Mod"? Funny.

A miller of some sort maybe?

unvote

. Just to give Mariyta some breathing room after replacing in. This is probably the safest lynch for today anyway, but she might as well get a chance to play.

[ChannelDelibird]

You realize I just gave my results?

Yes. And I'm saying we shouldn't discount the possiblity of Mariyta being a miller of some sort. It's exactly the sort of thing that the mod told us to expect.

[ChannelDelibird]

Also, if your not alowed to say it, why did you say it?

She didn't say it, whatever it was.

[ChannelDelibird]

Yeah, I think lynching Mariyta is the best thing to do today.

Vote: Mariyta

I recommend that we wait on the final vote until we see if Primate's vote sticks, although I highly doubt that we could lynch 'Scum'.

[ChannelDelibird]

DrippingGoofball was lying about her role.

Vote: DrippingGoofball

I am 100% confident that she was lying.

[ChannelDelibird]

... in this game? 100% confident?

I'm not 100% confident she is scum yet, but I am 100% confident of the fact that she was lying. I want DG to claim her

real

role.

[ChannelDelibird]

I don’t think that we should lynch DGB YET. She likely wants to be killed for a reason; she could be Jester or Kamikaze. DGB may not have lost yet, but lynching her could be bad. Remember she supposedly wants the Mafia to hit her. Something’s up, but we can’t know what. Let us wait for a reply to CDB before acting.

Read. READ!!!

You know I can get myself lynched IF THAT'S MY WINNING CONDITION.

I have no winning condition.

I don't have time to check out the Jester role, I am at an internet cafe.

I don't "want" to be killed. It doesn't matter either way.

What I've been trying to say over and over, and that some of you keep refusing to understand, is that *something interesting* will happen if the Mafia tries to nightkill me. That something has the potential of helping the town find one scum. No more.

But I personally don't really care either way.

It's your choice, whether you prefer to keep me around or not.

I repeat: claim your real role now.

[ChannelDelibird]

Is it 13 to lynch perhaps?

[ChannelDelibird]

Explain to me this, DGB - why weren't you at your house last night? If you're a loser who can't do anything, what were you doing?

(note: this is not the full extent of my evidence.)

[ChannelDelibird]

I don't think we should lynch DGB because she appears to be telling the truth. Although, ChannelDelibird, do you have good reason to believe she is scum?

I agree that for now the best thing to do is to

unvote: DrippingGoofball

. Allow me to explain a little more: last night the mod a) told me about some evidence that I obtained about DGB and b) told me that I drew a certain conclusion about it. I'm going along with the notion that the conclusion given to me by the mod is probably (but not certainly) false, but I am confident that the mod did not make up the evidence. Actually, that probably confused more than clarified things, but whatever. I don't think it would be wise to say any more about it.

I am somewhat baffled that DGB didn't know she wasn't at home last night.

[ChannelDelibird]

The CD/DG case is interesting. I would like to see how it plays out later. CD, it doesn't sound like you're going to get much from DG because she is sticking with her claim that she's already 'lost' and can't win, so I'm wondering, are you still trying to find out more from her before sharing your information? Are you eventually going to share the information?

I'm reluctant to share the rest of my information before we know what DGB's special scumtell is, as if she was scum she could use it to fake-claim that ability. Unfortunately the only way for us to find that out it seems is for DGB to die. Not sure I want that to happen yet because I'm leaning towards believing her for now. I have a suspicion of what her extra clause might be that makes sense with my evidence - however, my evidence could also be interpreted as flat-out confirming her as scum. Before I can be sure about which it is I need to know what her extra ability is.

[ChannelDelibird]

What's a death miller? I havn't encountered this role before.

A miller who is revealed as scum upon death. We wouldn't find out if they were a death miller until the end of the game.

[ChannelDelibird]

Okay I'll go right back to where I left off and

vote DGB

I still don't trust her. Yet I trust PBUG for some reason. His story is so farfetched I don't think he could make it up.

I think there are better people to lynch than DBG. I just can't think of them right now. >_> Unfortunately, what kind of moronic mafia would try to kill DGB now?

[ChannelDelibird]

Let me say something about DGB. I see three possibilities.

1) She is telling the truth. I doubt it.

2) She is lying to protect herself from scum. By saying, "if a scum kills me they will regret it" she is trying to discourage a nightkill against her..

3) She is lying to protect herself from lynches. By saying, "Don't lynch me, my role won't help you unless you let the scum kill me," she is trying to discourage the a day kill against her.

Obviously 2 and 3 provide a wonderful WIFOM situation that can, and SEEMS TO BE, keeping her alive.

All in all, my vote won't be changing unless someone can convince me that she is telling the truth or a better target arises.

I'm actually becoming more reluctant to believe DGB. If, as my evidence suggests could be true, she helps the town if the mafia night-kill her, what self-respecting mafia would kill her now?

I think I might give DGB another night though. I believe PBuG at this point.

So, as Thok says, that leaves us with 19 other players to look at. I think I'll reread and see what I can find.

[ChannelDelibird]

Now that the mafia aren't going to kill you in a million years, care to explain exactly what would have happened if they had?

[ChannelDelibird]

Now that the mafia aren't going to kill you in a million years, care to explain exactly what would have happened if they had?

Sure. Let's continue to play stupidly, why stop now?

I'd rather you told us now so that I can check it with my evidence and make a conclusion about whether you're scum or not. There are much more pro-town roles we'd rather have in the endgame than you, if you are who you claim to be.

[ChannelDelibird]

I don't really care if you confirm me being this or that, I've already lost, and I am not on anyone's side, though the way the role is set up I can only benefit the Town, if I feel like helping out. If I chose to play out a role without a winning condition.

Anyway.

Here's the deal.

The Mafia CANNOT kill me. So there you have it. Instead, something else happens. It's nothing bad, it's not a reflecting vig ability or anything of the sort. It's something that the Mafia can play right, or wrong. If they play it wrong, and I am almost certain that they will, there will be a scumtell. I am still not telling what the scumtell was, unless some of you Townies are really dying to miss out completely and are in a wild rush to lynch me because I've already claimed, as has PBug, an no one is saying anything significant beyond picking between me and PBug to lynch.

That's why I think I was "out" at night, being out might explain why the Mafia cannot kill me, because I certainly have no action, night or day. To die, I need to be vigged or lynched.

@Fortify - the thing about the scumtell is that it's a clever little twist of fate that didn't jump out at me when I read my role PM. It doesn't say "if the Mafia tries to kill you at night, there will be a scumtell." Not even close. But after a while, I realized, hey! There is something that might happen, after all, and I let people know about the possibility.

This does not correlate at all.

Unvote, Vote: DrippingGoofball
Confirm vote: Dripping Goofball

DrippingGoofball's house is full of guns, knives, and bombs.

[ChannelDelibird]

DrippingGoofball's house is full of guns, knives, and bombs.

A-HA!!!

You are lying. Your role is not an investigative role. Your role is a KILLING role, and you tried to kill me last night. What you just wrote is dangerously close to what I expected the scumtell to be.

I never said I was an investigative role. I said I had role-based information.

I'm a vig. A vig-miller to be precise. I tried to kill you last night.

[ChannelDelibird]

I need to be vigged or lynched.

This is another reason why I don't believe you. As a vig, I couldn't kill you.

[ChannelDelibird]

You are lying. You are not a vig.

You are Mafia.

You are lying. You are not a 'loser'.

You are scum, either SK or Mafia.

[ChannelDelibird]

Speculate about me as you please.

But I do know that you are Mafia.

That WAS the scumtell.

What possessed you guys to choose me as a target??? That was uber-stupid, haha.

The scumtell is out, incredibly and against all odds and expectations.

Now, I truly have outlived my usefulness. You guys decide what you want to do with the information, but from this moment on, there is really nothing for me to do in this game.

I advise the Town to put me out of my misery by way of lynch or vig (the REAL vig this time, please), and get rid of ChannelDelibird in a similar fashion.

Well, forgive me if I believe that you just held off on informing us of the 'scumtell' so you could imcriminate me. And I decided to target you because I felt even if you weren't lying you were a safe kill.

It's quite fun watching you lying through your teeth.

Also, WTF does a person with no win condition need enough weapons to supply a small army for?

[ChannelDelibird]

Why would a mafia trying to kill you find your house full of bombs?

Because she's scum.

[ChannelDelibird]

if the Mafia tries to night-kill me, they will be falsely told I am a Serial Killer.

Shit.

I did indeed get told that DGB was a serial killer. Personally I disbelieved it but the fact that DGB knows about it is highly worrying. I'm unsure what to do at this point.

[ChannelDelibird]

Ah.

[ChannelDelibird]

Before anyone asks I didn't kill last night. Anyway, a

vote: Coron

looks like a decent place to start today.

[ChannelDelibird]

Vote Coron

Also, Mafia mason is a seriously uber role for 'bastard role', albeit an expected one. Do you think it's possible that the mafia have super-roles, making them bastardly for the town, but not themselves?

The extra kill is interesting. Do you think it's possible that DBG was a serial killer without a nightkill?

I'm pretty sure that if DGB couldn't kill the word 'killer' wouldn't be in her role name. Not sure about the mafia roles, but is it really worth speculating?

[ChannelDelibird]

if the Mafia tries to night-kill me, they will be falsely told I am a Serial Killer.

Shit.

I did indeed get told that DGB was a serial killer. Personally I disbelieved it but the fact that DGB knows about it is highly worrying. I'm unsure what to do at this point.

Looks like DGB caught scum here, and plus CD claimed vig miller, which basically is scum described in pro-town roles.

vote: CD

Yes, I know the vig-miller looks like scum - so does the mod. Trust me, we have better leads to go on than how bastardly my role is (i.e. Coron, who just got caught killing a pro-town player).

[ChannelDelibird]

Perhaps we should have CD claim a kill type (assuming he knows what his kill type is) for future reference?

vote Coron

I'm afraid my modus operandi was not specified in my role PM, and seeing as I haven't yet made a kill in the game I can't say which mine is. I might ask the mod for clarification (i.e. a PM will follow this post, Vis).

[ChannelDelibird]

However we have no kills from DGB, and she was supposedly an SK as claimed by the lynch post. I am doubtful that she was the SK, and was more closely to what she claimed. What I'm not sure about though, is if what the mod told her about her role was true, meaning CD must be mafia, or if the mod lied to her merely to implicate CD.

I agree with you in that this is the most confusing part. The lack of one less kill last night suggests DGB was telling the truth yet she claimed incorrectly that a vig could kill her, which I was unable to do. I thought the mod had said he wasn't going to lie on role information though...

How many is it to lynch?

[ChannelDelibird]

Ten bucks says that DGB's role was real, except that she was (much to her own surprise) a Death Miller. I'm going to

Vote: Channel Delibird

because I feel he is likely to be a scumbag. I don’t believe that DGB was a nonkilling SK. I believe her role was as claimed, and I feel that CDB tried to kill her maliciously.

If I said there will be death millers involved that may or may not be true. Any millers/death millers will know they are that.

[ChannelDelibird]

Hmm, then maybe DGB just didn't claim to be a Death Miller as well?

That would be a very stupid thing for her to leave out, IMO.

Let us lynch Coron!

[ChannelDelibird]

According to DGB, only the Mafia can fail to kill her.

CDB claims to have targeted her.

Obviously, she didn't die.

Unvote, Vote: CDB

*sigh* This is why I still believe she was scum. This is old news, Glork.

[ChannelDelibird]

By the way, I have clarification from the mod that I kill by shooting.

[ChannelDelibird]

May I point you to rule nr 2?

Can we vig you?

Whoa, let's not get all "we" here...

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm leaving on Saturday morning and will have no access for 3 or 4 days. For the next couple of weeks after that I will have reduced access but should still be able to keep up with my games.

I would be more than happy if Coron was lynched while I am away.

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm back. Sorry that you had to wait on me - I was supposed to be replaced but the request didn't get through. Am able to participate fully now.

unvote: Coron

Viper's replacementness is a tad frustrating for the counterwagon now that he should be doing something.

I will probably revote Coron if the deadline gets too close. I would rather lynch him than nobody but for now I'll look elsewhere.

[ChannelDelibird]

I killed al_kohaulec. I'm just lucky I hit scum - I was making sure that I could kill, having not done so already, and he hadn't posted for a few days at the time of the beginning of the night. Just to make that clear.

I'm reluctant to vote Masterchief seeing as we just lynched an innocent Coron over what the mod told us in the night scene.

[ChannelDelibird]

I killed al_kohaulec. I'm just lucky I hit scum - I was making sure that I could kill, having not done so already, and he hadn't posted for a few days at the time of the beginning of the night. Just to make that clear.

I'm reluctant to vote Masterchief seeing as we just lynched an innocent Coron over what the mod told us in the night scene.

Are you saying you're a vig? Or have you already said that? Last night was far too long.

I agree with you about Coron. That was a bad move. Obviously these voices are one of two things:

1) The Mod lying to us
2) Controlled by a player

My millervig claim was basically the entirety of Day 2.

[ChannelDelibird]

However, no mention of Cassandra's notorious prophetic power is made in this Homeric epic.

This is where he got it.

[ChannelDelibird]

in all the confusion Primate had been shot which surprised everyone including himself even though he was the one who pulled the trigger

That would be what you're looking for then.

[ChannelDelibird]

Yeah, why isn't everyone voting for Masterchief. I mean, God did tell us he is guilty.

G/Mod also told us Coron was guilty. Of course the bastardly thing to do would be to make Masterchief actually guilty because I'd say that he told us Coron was guilty...or it would be to make him innocent because we'd think he was bluffing and being even more bastardly...you get the point?

[ChannelDelibird]

I suggest ew erongi it and yrt ot find scum.

HALLELUJAH!

This is the correct course of action. Forget all about the night scenes.

[ChannelDelibird]

Nutbunnies.

Vote: dahen

and

FoS: others who haven't posted today.

[ChannelDelibird]

nutbunnies, and any reasons for that vote CD?

Same reason for the FoSes. You hadn't posted today. This means that I will now

unvote, vote: marc.six

[ChannelDelibird]

CD: Pay attention! I was the first to post this day.

So you were. My apologies.

[ChannelDelibird]

thats 8 nutbunnies Im counting so far. where is the 5 remaining? marc.six, PBug, Glork, Dur galad, Masterchief?

PBuG's away til the 5th.

[ChannelDelibird]

You say it as if I should excuse him for that or something.

I say it as if you should modkill him for it, oh Mod of Mods.

[ChannelDelibird]

Nutbunnies!
Hi everyone!
Here's an idea- why don't we just lynch the scum?

vote:Scum

We did have a go at that, to no avail. Maybe you should read the thread before you make a vote...

[ChannelDelibird]

CDb- It was a joke vote. My way of saying hello. And I did read the thread...several weeks ago. Are you fishing for a modkill?

Modkills are fun. Besides, if I really wanted to I could kill you myself. =D

On the subject of Masterchief, I should point out that the game was designed without his role in mind - we're supposed to be able to win without him.

[ChannelDelibird]

CES-Are you still banned from talking?

How's he supposed to say "yes" if he is?

Also,

vote: Masterchief

.

[ChannelDelibird]

Scum-Who do you think is scummiest?

uh, LOL?

Are you expecting the scum to help us out? Good luck with that.

[ChannelDelibird]

Thanks,

Mod

Fos:everybody but me

C'mon, people, there's lots of fun things to talk about, don't be shy!
I have this crazy theory that Fritzler was modkilled, what do you think of that? What about DrippingGoofBall, was she really the SK?
Should we discuss who CDb vigs next?
What do you think of Scum's response to me? Does it mean anything?

You know I don't like talking about whether players are SKs or not. In this case especially because outguessing the mod is suicide.

And no, me picking randomly worked fine last night.

[ChannelDelibird]

How's this for discussion:

We lynch Masterchief and go to sleep.

comments?

I'm not ready to lynch yet, despite having my vote on Masterchief. I'd like to hear more from those who haven't posted much today, including Masterchief, but also Dur-Galad, Glork, dahen, etc. I'm also going to

FoS: Romanus

for trying to hurry the town.

[ChannelDelibird]

Romanus is lyncher of Masterchief (is what I'm feeling)

Romanus' role was written before Masterchief's was even thought of. Remember Masterchief joined halfway through because he wouldn't shut up?

FoS: Scum

Confirm vote: Masterchief

[ChannelDelibird]

Yeah,

now

that's what you want.

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm not sure how many Masterchief is at, so I'll

unvote

while we wait for Glork's contribution.

[ChannelDelibird]

That role does make an awful lot of sense considering Masterchief was so eager to be part of the game earlier. I'm prepared to believe TS but it does leave me wondering where to put my vote today.

unvote

with the possibility of revoting if necessary for a lynch today.

[ChannelDelibird]

You know, ubertimmy, it's customary to say

why

someone's scummy instead of just saying they're "very very scummy". If you'd put some points forward I'll be happy to address your concerns.

I don't see why everyone's still so flippant about a TS lynch. If we lynch someone who's already won, it's a waste of a lynch when we should be looking for scum. Granted, we don't know TS is telling the truth but you can say that for anyone here.

[ChannelDelibird]

Ubertimmy, has it occurred to you that perhaps that

wasn't

DGB's plan, and the plan was just to claim loser and hope that nobody would want to bother killing someone who'd already lost?

Obviously it is also possible that DGB was trying to do something similar to what you describe, although either it wasn't exactly how you described or she made a mistake - I know this to be true as I know I'm town.

Glork, would you mind outlining why you're voting for PBuG?

[ChannelDelibird]

I think it would be unusual to have a SK kill by shooting. Wouldn't they normal have some special style?

M4yhem, similarly, I think it'd be strange for a vig to kill by shooting.

Both bullcrap, tbh.

Lyncher -> town is unlikely, but that

would

be bastardly. Fulfil one win condition, which is tough enough, and then fulfil a harder one? Not sure about whether I want to vote for PBuG, but it's probably better than a TS lynch.

[ChannelDelibird]

Either way , Strudel or Pbug with have indication on this voice so both are good I think. Strudle seems more disposable

Good point.

If PBuG is telling the truth, keeping him alive helps us win. If TS is telling the truth, keeping him alive doesn't help us win.

Vote: Toaster Strudel

[ChannelDelibird]

Wow, my vote keeps hopping on and off, but once again I've got to

unvote

as Glork is correct.

Vote: whoever Glork's voting for

because I keep agreeing with him.

[ChannelDelibird]

That would be PBuG, at this moment.

Though I'm considering switching to you, for votehopping and riding others' coattails.

As I freely admitted in my previous post. Not a lot I can do about it, I'm easily swayed.

[ChannelDelibird]

...Was that really necessary?

[ChannelDelibird]

I'll go along with PBuG for now, simply because I think we can get more information on other players by lynching TS.

unvote, vote: Toaster Strudel

@ Glork: Yes, he did.

[ChannelDelibird]

I'd rather you didn't try to direct my targets, Thok.

[ChannelDelibird]

Bah. Go

mod!

town!

[ChannelDelibird]

That was a crazy, crazy game, and I really enjoyed playing it. Congrats to the scum.

By the way, the mafia nightscene writer is the coolest role I've seen for ages.