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Phillammon Mafia Scum
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I'm tempted to start rhyming/giffing too, in solidarity, as well as because it looks fun. On another note, shadow, if you're planning on global modkilling, DON'T. I think my role may screw it up royally.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Phillammon Mafia Scum
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Your given reason or thinking that he's scum and that the shot was good was selfish- you said you found it hard to read him. I would vote you here and now, but it's not worth the effort on this device to get square brackets up. Also, you're basically confirmed innocent, which is another good reason not to lynch you. Wait. Damn.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Phillammon Mafia Scum
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That rhyme seems quite laboured, but I'll let it slide
and you're right. Your role seems to good for the inside
of a "Worst roles here!" game. I'd suspect your recruit.
Do you have to? Or can you just choose not to shoot
your powers of recruitment. Or if you should choose
not to bring one in would it be playing to lose?
This posting restriction you have is most fun-
but I will not use it once we've finished night one.
For a scholar of yours would most certainly rhyme.
I guess we'll find out in the fullness of time...Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Phillammon Mafia Scum
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I have been told I have some skill as a poet. As a songwriter, I have won two little-known national awards jointly. I like the idea of a rhyming PR. Anyway, now I'm done bragging: to make your posts less jarring, stick to a format. I usually use 11 syllable lines, broken up as 3-3-3-2, but as long as it's consistent, it should work.
From the common roles list:- Goon Boon (benefit), Tune (As in singing a different)
- Blocker Mocker-y (That's a tough one)
- Father Rather, lather (as in, keeping him clean?)
- Cop Mop (As in, mop up kills?)
- Doc Mock-ery, lock, clock, block
- Vig How do you pronounce it... or more importantly, how does the mod pronounce it...
- Killer Thriller, Miller, Filler
Any roles that can mess with Post restrictions, while you probably have higher priorities, shifting Molla's to me would help a decent logician communicate and hinder me, an incompetent newbie, less.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Okay, let's see if I can use my knowledge of the role... or what little there is... to try and divine the trigger. It will probably be to do with how much attention we give you, be it little or less.
Would it be scummy to try and detonate Moneybags? Cause if not, I think ignoring him for several pages may cause an explosion of self-centred attention whoring.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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No, read it properly. His communication has been hampered a bit, but he clearly stated he didn't want a specific role, just to say if he had one. Please try reading back, I've said this every time someone's attacked that.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Apologies, didn't spot that there was a question there. I guess exploding him would only be good if he were scum, so we'll try not to. Keep mentioning Moneybag's name, to be on the safe side. I'm just interested to see if we can derive how some of the roles work.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Phillammon Mafia Scum
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There may be a "Death Note" style effect like in mind screw mafia (I forget which one). In any case, without a nameclaim, anybody who targets me will turn into me, and the action will fail.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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In post 335, knox wrote:In post 327, Phillammon wrote:Gmorning. My role supremely messes up anybody who has a decent role and tries to use it on me. I'm not gonna nameclaim, but trust me- cops, docs, vigs? You don't want to target me.
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From here on in, just to show solidarity and I guess sorta in keeping with my role, I may be imitating other people's PRs if I'm talking to a PRd person specifically. Just for fun.
More usefully, yes. Anyone targeting me loses their role and becomes a ditto too. Ditto is not my role name, but it's what I'm gonna go by for now, to avoid death-noting. It was specifically noted that voting me does not ditto a person, but any other action does. So I'm not sure, as I said, if you successfully modkill me, or get ditto'd. I'd suspect that you turn me into a survivor, then kill me, but I don't want to test that hypothesis. At all.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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I wouldn't put it past Izak to have put a deathnote style role in- a role that NKs anyone by quoting their role name. This was used in mind screw mafia. I know I'm a newbie, so shouldn't know it- I just like to read. Also, in pennance:
Our mother, who art the mod's friend
Shadowgirl be thy name
Thy modkills come
Thy will be done
In thread, as it is in dead QT.
Give us this day our daily reads
And deliver us from mafia
As lynch those who kill among us
For yours is the best role, the power, and the glory
Now and forever.
(For reference, I'm Christian, but not above making fun of my own religion, before I get flamed into the ground for that.
Out of interest, lady high shadowgirl, is there something more to your role? I suspect perhaps you may be some kind of insecure god or something- as in, if people vote you, you die, or something. Or a douglas adams style if we prove you exist then you don't. Care to comment, or not? I'd happily accept either.
PEdit:
PEdit 2: I have no night action, so I can't voluntarily ditto anyone, and I win with town.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Phillammon Mafia Scum
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Ooh. Good point. I don't know what happens if scum target me, I will ask the mod. This role is a bit powerful, but there is a power limiter on it that I will NOT be sharing, for obvious reasons. I maintain that I am not a third party, still.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Ooh. Good point. I don't know what happens if scum target me, I will ask the mod. This role is a bit powerful, but there is a power limiter on it that I will NOT be sharing, for obvious reasons. I maintain that I am not a third party, still.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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In post 360, Candy Corn Vampire wrote:
So did everyone miss Captain Haddock's Rolefishing and hypocrisy?
QFT.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Shadowgirl being scum sounds like *exactly* the sort of twist I'd be expecting. I'll admit it was a suspicion on the role, rather than the player, mind, so pass over it in general.
Wait a sec, did I just agree with mcqueen?Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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No, no, Alt is right. I was saying that having a God as scum would be delightfully twisted. What you're doing is attacking the player, and ad hominem is never good, regardless of the theoretical alignment of the target. Don't do that.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Okay. For a quick reference, did anyone get ditto'd? Cause that'd be a really easy way to prove that I'm not a third party here and now, I imagine. Also, @Molla- apologies for misunderstanding what you mean by "recruiting into the game".Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Phillammon Mafia Scum
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Holy quoted wall of text, batman!
All the same, very good points raised there. Unfortunately, saying this alone makes me guilty of exactly what Oversoul is being accused of. Oh well.
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Phillammon Mafia Scum
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In post 555, Amrun wrote:
WHY didn't you vote Oversoul when you made a case on him, Oversoul? You WEREN'T already voting him, and that's crap.
Who was that meant to be aimed at?Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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In post 563, Amrun wrote:In post 562, Phillammon wrote:In post 555, Amrun wrote:
WHY didn't you vote Oversoul when you made a case on him, Oversoul? You WEREN'T already voting him, and that's crap.
Who was that meant to be aimed at?
The "Oversoul" address is pretty clear.
So you meant to ask Oversoul why he didn't vote for himself?Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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What I was saying was, if such a hypothesis were correct, then presenting it as a hypothesis would be a great way to confirm to buddies. As I said, my suspicious side says that. Feel free to ISO me anyway.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Right, fair enough, the heat is on, time to claim the restriction:
It's 1 shot.
I have one shot ditto'ing, then I'm effectively a VT. My role name is Green Slime, but that doesn't help much given it appears not to be in the original thread. I'll admit my posts have looked fairly scummy. I'll freely admit I've been extra speculative/paranoid because of the nature of the game. So yeah. My fault.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Pardon me, I'm green goo, not slime. But I am not a third party. Just did a search, apparently this role name has some history on the site.
Surely that should be a dead giveaway that I'm *not* the normal version of the goo?Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Okay, checks have come back. Goo-ing does not change alignment, it just turns them into goo too. I was focused on third parties because that is what I'm being accused of for my role. I am not a survivor or a mafioso either. I win so long as there are no more threats to the town and a pro-town survives. I may be scummy, but that is different from being scum.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Okay. I thought my role was dangerous, not powerful, panda- in that dittoing a townie powerrole would obliterate us fairly effectively. As for what happens to scum, apparently being ditto'd doesn't affect alignment. Just role.
As for Amrun's criticisms, what I had personally meant by "anybody" was that it didn't matter about their alignment- as in, implying NKs were included in the role's limitations. I guess I had a poor choice of words there, but I was careful not to outright lie.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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That's what's called out of context. That was referring to alignment, which I went and checked, as I said. Scum targetting me would stop being scum whatevers and starting being scum green goo. That is what was meant there.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Why is a survivor a LyLo liability? Surely they aren't treated as a threat to the town? Wouldn't that be basically the same as town?
In any case, I maintain I win with town, but oh well. If we had a day role we didn't need/want, there would be an easy confirm method here, I guess. I'm willing to throw myself open to Shadowgirl, if she wants to risk it too, but failing that, I guess there's little I can do, beyond intentional lightning-rodding through force of personality.
Or something like that. Besides which, the Green Goo role was used in that capacity in another game, as has been pointed out. Even if you don't believe me, You must concede that the role would have been changed, to make it a worst role...Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Well, I guess we did find out. I think that I may have killed him by sandwiching... oops. Or possibly the double post did it.
In response to iceguy, I have no defenses left. I've explained everything, but it still seems to be useless. I'm utterly confused as to what the scum might even resemble, let alone who they may be, so I can't get out any reads, really, either. Amrun looks the scummiest, but I suspect I only think that because of her overreaction to my two claims. Not nearly suspicious enough of anyone to vote again.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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The haikus are all legit, so that's not it. Random post times seems equally possible.
Looks like I'm toast. I'm gonna throw out a counter accusation and VOTE: Amrun, but really, I brought this on myself. Sorry, guys. I reckon Tierce and Molla are probably town, from what I've seen, and I'm prepared to believe saulres is too, to be honest. That's really the extent of my reads, anymore.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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No, no it isn't. Don't just sheep or parrot out the party line, what areyourreasons?Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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In post 708, BBmolla wrote:In post 703, Captain Haddock wrote:A. There's no benefit to quicklynching compared to lynching later, and you argued the pros if 2birds was town.
B. Is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read. Why not quicklynch every game to be nice to replacements
A proved that roles are possibly bastard. This is really fucking important.
B, replacements voluntarily join a game, I recruited Tierce, meaning she just got thrown a PM(according to her she wasn't even asked if she wanted to play). Wouldn't you be upset if you got a role PM for a game you didn't sign up for and had to read 30 pages to catch up?
Your arguments are shit Haddock.
Oversoul wanna lynch Haddock with me?
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Ah, right. Yeah. You could have mentioned, mind...
PEdit: Whew, thanks for catching that- I nearly did the same... also, vote magnetism as listed in the original thread is *permanent*, not just for the day...Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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On Haddock's case:
Point 1 seems actually pretty good. Pushing a quicklynch is not really justifiable unless it's instant night and the scum appear to be lurking, regardless of how weird the game may be.
Point 2 I've already made my position clear on. He's disregarding what was actually said in favour of subtext. Subtext, I hasten to add, utterly contradicted by said actual wording. I'm willing to take it on face value.
Points 3 and 4 I'm not seeing the real scum implications of. I'm aware that faking a PR is nearly on par for LaL, and I know that your role was hard to crumb, but haddock's case there seems like a bit of an overreaction. I personally still think that Molla is town, but all the same haddock doesn't jump out as me as scum either.Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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Sounds about right to me...
All the same, your reads, please?Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
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