TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win

[drmyshottyizsik]

Hello all, I have a lot of catching up to do. Can someone please give me a quick jist of this game.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Hmmmmmmmmmm... problem for me is that I always see silver as scum... :/
I need to read this game. Brb.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Oh my god, Volkan's in this game... I now see why so many people replaced out. Where am I on your bias points chart today Volkan?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok, I am willing to hammer. I have read most of the game and zinger looks like the only good lynch for today. I'm not going to post a acse on him, because there are 54 pages of it. I may however, give bullet points later today. Has he claimed? I didn't see one, but I may have missed it. I want a claim before or in, [countdown]0.00[/countdown]. This is when I will be getting home from work. If there is no claim I will hammer.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok, I am willing to hammer. I have read most of the game and zinger looks like the only good lynch for today. I'm not going to post a acse on him, because there are 54 pages of it. I may however, give bullet points later today. Has he claimed? I didn't see one, but I may have missed it. I want a claim before or in, (expired on 2011-07-28 22:00:00). This is when I will be getting home from work. If there is no claim I will hammer.

EBWOP

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok, I missed his serious claim. I only saw his lol jk ones. I really don't like this guy, but is it possible he's a jester?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok, I missed his serious claim. I only saw his lol jk ones. I really don't like this guy, but is it possible he's a jester?

No. Jesters are explicitly banned from this set-up via the Mod.

Where does it say that?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok, thanks.

[drmyshottyizsik]

@shotty: Are you still willing to hammer Zinger, or has seeing the town JK claim changed your mind?

I don't see that as a good, or believable claim. I'm off to work. I won't hammer at my time I posted, well most likely. I want to talk a bit more today.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andrew speaks english >.> he's from down under iirc.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Jacket you make such good points... I'm very willing to hammer right now.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I got on to hammer, but saw the above post.

@ZeL1nK- Why am I scum?

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm hammering tonight.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm hammering tonight.

What is stopping you form hammering right now?

NA1

Well it seems like people are having some good talks and I don't want to cut them off.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Vote Zinger

Done.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I just hammered...

[drmyshottyizsik]

VoTe sIlvEr

It'S tHe obVioUs lyNch foR toDaY.

WhO Not TO LynCh

RainbOwdash/sLatE/CrOpPy
MoI

[drmyshottyizsik]

I didn't vote silver because I thought that Z1 was scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I didn't vote silver because I thought that Z1 was scum.

What is this post in response to? I don't recall anyone asking why you didn't vote for Silver D1.

I don't recall having to wait for you to prompt me to say things.

[drmyshottyizsik]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: silver

Obvious scum "lynch me!"-gambit yesterday is obvious.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I've looked over this again, and with MoI's info, I think that andrew is scummier than silver.

VOTE: andrew

How? I just don't see how Andrew is that scummy. He is bad yes, but he's not scummy,

[drmyshottyizsik]

MoI is not scum neither is Rainbow

[drmyshottyizsik]

Rainbow is obv town. Maybe more to me than anyone else.

[drmyshottyizsik]

why is chk's scumminess being overlooked?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Maybe I can't give you reasons...

[drmyshottyizsik]

@Rodion, why do they think you are scummy?

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm with andrew on this TBH, as much as I dont like him sometimes Jenpie looks really opportunistic

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm with andrew on this TBH, as much as I dont like him sometimes Jenpie looks really opportunistic

Ok, this style of posting from you needs to stop.

Vote: shotty

I'm ok with hammering on Silver. or Rodion. Nobody else. But until need arises, my vote stays here. Also, Castle Bravo is starting to become one of my town reads.

The kind of posting in which I give my input? Ok.

[drmyshottyizsik]

My head hurts...

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andrew is scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andrew is scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

unvote
vote

scum

Andrew

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andrew is 100% scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andrew is scum. I have a guilty on him.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andrew is scum. I have a guilty on him.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I seriously can't believe no one got my bread crumb.

[drmyshottyizsik]

:/ One for one isn't that bad.

[drmyshottyizsik]

One for Cop is.

If you had stayed hidden for as long as possible, you'd have been able to confirm people as innocent, as well as finding scum.. -_-

If there's a Doc, don't reveal yourself, unless you hit L-1. Really.. we really don't need more VI PRs...

rain bow and MoI are VTs

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm guessing scum shot me last night.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Nope, I, in a way, killed Pappums. I have more than just a cop ability. I have 4 abilities actually. Each of which can be used a max of 4 times, and only 3 times in a consecutive day/night phase.

P-Edit: Haha ya scum shot me, I'm guessing ZeL1nK didn't shoot, or did he o.O(Hinting that he may be mafia)

P-Edit again: Could he really be guilty and that line just be part of your role flavour?

P-Edit 3rd: I'm a day cop(And More)

P-Edit 4th: Read above

[drmyshottyizsik]

Also I already sent in my choice for today, but I could delete it and you guys could tell me who to cop instead,

[drmyshottyizsik]

MoI- VT
Rainbow Dash- VT
Andrew- mafia neighborizer

I have a pending result on ZeL1inK, but Jason just picked up that PM so it shouldn't be long.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ZeL1nK is Vanilla Town as well.

[drmyshottyizsik]

He said he can use each action a maximum of 4 times.

I'm against a full claim until we get MoI's QT results.

Very true, I got one pre-game Role Cop shot, and I've used one each day. Last night I used one of my other abilities as well. More on this later.

[drmyshottyizsik]

He said he can use each action a maximum of 4 times.

I'm against a full claim until we get MoI's QT results.

Thanks, I had overlooked that!

So, Shotty, can you explain your actions in a simple format, please?

Something like:

"Pre-game - investigate ???
D1 -
N1 -
D2 -
N2 - kill Pappums
D3 -"

I also want explanations on why you decided to kill Pappums.

Pre Game- Rainbow Dash(Cop)
D1- MoI(Cop)
D2- Andrew(Cop)
N2- Pappums(Made Guard)
D3- ZeLinK(Cop)

Also mafia had to have hit me.
Each night I can choose a person to guard me, so if I am NK'd they are NK'd, but the trick is if I choose to use that ability during the night and no one tries to kill me I get majorly fucked. If I use it and I'm not targeted then not only can I not use an ability for the next two days, but I can also never use that ability again.

[drmyshottyizsik]

He was screaming 3rd party to me :/

P-Edit: Why?

[drmyshottyizsik]

He was screaming 3rd party to me :/

P-Edit: Why?

Okay shotty let me recap your role:

You have multiple abilities that include but aren't limited to rolecop and kill direct.

You redirected the kill onto Pappums instead of confirmed VT/mafia Silver.

Get why I don't buy it now?

Why would I use a VT if I had the chance to kill scum? Also I kinda had my vote on silver just because I didn't see him as 100% mafia, and after Andrew was flipped as mafia I just couldn't see Silver being with him. Also I'm going to pull this out again

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WhO Not TO LynCh

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[drmyshottyizsik]

He was screaming 3rd party to me :/

P-Edit: Why?

What made you think he was screaming 3rd-party?

It was really gut. He was so null to me that 3rd party made sense. I took a risk and he ended up being town. Now I know I should have played it safe and used a VT, but it actually worked better for us this way. Vengeful Townies hit town way more than they hit scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

That's wishful thinking.
Meh, just waiting on MoI here.

How so?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Role Cops Usually Don't get Alignment

Youa re so dumb. The role is called vanilla townie. Are you one? Yes, according to the mod you are. Look at Andrew's Death Scene his role title was MAFIA neighborizor.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Also every role I've said is correct, has anyone said that they are not what I say they are? NO!
And my role may seem really powerful, but it's not really. The only ability I can use safely is my role copping and I'm out of shots for that.

P-Edit: Take that up with the mod not me, he is giving me alignment and role.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Vote: Oversoul

Yah bullshit.

What are you calling bullshit on?

Shotty, that would be ridiculously overpowered if it gave alignment with the actual role like that. Not that your role doesn't already scream overpowered as hell.

VOTE: DMSIS

I've so far got 3 VT results for town and there was one Vengeful townie, it seems as if I may be a town carry. Also If used wrong my abilities can fuck me over.

[drmyshottyizsik]

You are a VT, Rainbow is a VT, and ZeL1nK is a VT.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Also every role I've said is correct, has anyone said that they are not what I say they are? NO!

Town Power Role Fishing in Action!!!!!!!

Wouldn't outing one power role be worth catching mafia? YES!

[drmyshottyizsik]

Also since I know it's coming and I have to go to work I'll cover this now.

Maybe he's a mafia role cop

Then why would I confirm 3 people as town and not kill of the people who are confirmed? I have no motivation as mafia to claim or give results. The only reason I claimed yesterday is that I was afraid mafia saw my bread crumb. And I knew that if I claimed I wouldn't be able to die last night.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Oh and one last thing
[quote="Wiki"In some role madness games or in games with multiple scum groups, the condition that Role Cop does not learn its target's alignment is not applied. Role Cops will learn the full role name of their targets. In particularly extreme cases this has been extended to the Role Cop receiving the entire Role PM of its target (with names and chat topic links deleted, of course).[/quote]
MoI make sure you quote the whole page next time.

Wow I was ninja'd by someone else posting the same thing :p

P-Edit:

Oh, ok.

So what do you think of the 19 other things wrong with his claim? Hmmm?

List 19, now!
God if I didn't know you were town then I would so vote you right now.

[drmyshottyizsik]

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P-Edit:
Haha why is MoI confirmed in your eyes if I'm not?

[drmyshottyizsik]

unvote
vote shotty

There is no way that claim is real in jason's game.

Why? You don't even know the other abilities I have.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Especially since I;m a beloved princess...






































































































































Not really.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Kill it with fire. That's the only way to kill a troll.

Chkballin read my post highlighting all the holes in his claim. It is hardly just Mod meta.

And just because we are in Theme Park does not mean his claim is viable.

Ummmm, yes it does?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Vote Bravo, he's either mafia or a jester, either way he'a anti town and killing him will help us

[drmyshottyizsik]

ummmmm.... claiming mafia goon will get you mod killed no matter what....

[drmyshottyizsik]

Mafia Beloved P?

[drmyshottyizsik]

MOD:
CASTLE BRAVO HAS OUTRIGHT CLAIMED MAFIA GOON, IF HIS CLAIM IS TRUTHFUL HE IS PLAYING AGAINST HIS WIN CONDITION...
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR STANCE ON THIS...

Btw Bravo, you aren't an obvscum read anymore- you are just an anti-town read. AH... thanks okay so no jesters- just Castle and a fake claim, or a truthful claim probably with a pending modkill....

Next breaking strategy - Everyone mass claims scum. The ones who aren't modkilled are town.

It's against town's win con too...

[drmyshottyizsik]

I find simple answers are best. For instance..

Having VI players full claim because we think we can play their role better than they can is just silly. Shotty's only play I don't agree with is having Pappums take a bullet. I think pushing the andrew lynch with claiming was a good idea, as he had already left enough breadcrumbs to be at least for a scum NK. Outting the VT players does put the PR pool at risk, but it also allows me to put more confidence into Shotty's claim. Any scum could name 3 pro-town players.

I wouldn't have claimed if I had hit a town PR, that would have been bad. If I hit a town PR then I would have just used my 2nd ability that night and hoped I could last until either that person was going to be lynched or when I could win the game by confirming them in lylo.

I'll be back to respond to a few other things in a minute or two.

But for now

Vote Oversoul

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok so full claim?
I can if you guys want, but I'd really prefer not to out my other 2 abilities right now. They work best if kept a secret.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok so full claim?
I can if you guys want, but I'd really prefer not to out my other 2 abilities right now. They work best if kept a secret.

Now now girl, I want to hear a soft whisper when speaking around these parts. There lurks a beast that will eat passerby.

Tell me darlin, do you think that we want a full claim, since you sugary asked for our permission?

Fourseen where are you!

Well if I read correctly 2 people asked for one, but out of 23 that's not enough to make me claim.
The fact that OverSoul was so over eager to full claim on top of his scum slip is why I am voting him.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Nope.. not quite sure of that claim myself, I don't have much experience with redirection mechanics personally, but is it normal for the person to be warned that their action was redirected?

NO! Not at all.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Lining up lynches is scummy... Like really scummy man. Each flip will effect the reads of people. :/

[drmyshottyizsik]

He's obvscum and nothing else needs to be said. THEN, getting rid of shotty is the bestest idea, because:

1. If he is scum, well you know.
2. If he is town then we have 3-4 confirmed innocents. He said he can't use the ability anymore so there's no waste.

So we have the game pretty much laid out. There's not much to discuss at this juncture. Or tomorrow.

I haven't used all of my abilities.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Shotty why did you choose Rainbow and I?

I didn't...

[drmyshottyizsik]

I havent read the rest of this game since this morning. Im on my phone and I have one thing to say. I replaced into this game and I have no idea why MoI or RD were chosen.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Claim: Walter Bishop(Fringe)- Inventor

I have 16 vials. 4 for each of my abilities.
I cannot drink all four in a row or I will die from poison. The vials counter each others poison which is why after I break the chain I can use the fourth vial of one ability.
My vials contain the following:
4x- Day Role Cop
4x- Risky Guard Maker
4x- Weak Doctor
4x- Weak Alarmist

I was aloud to use one of any of my roles pre game.

Actions I have used:
Pre Game- Rainbow Dash(Cop)
D1- MoI(Cop)
N1- MoI(Weak Doctor)
D2- Andrew(Cop)
N2- Pappums(Made Guard)
D3- ZeLinK(Cop)
N3- RainbowDash(Weak Doctor)

Also I thought Pappums was scum because of his interactions with MoI whom you knew was town. And so I was willing to sacrifice him due to my knowledge of MoI's alignment and overall scummy play.

I weak doctored MoI and RainbowDash because I knew they were town so I wouldn't die.

I have the following abilities left.
3x- Risky Guard Maker
2x- Weak Doctor
4x- Weak Alarmist

[drmyshottyizsik]

I think that Castle Bravo may be some sort of cult bomb or if I'm hammered they simply become a cult member or something :/
My role plus that night flavour are what give me that feeling. An alarmist is someone who protects a townie from being recruited from something, now this may be from a cult, or maybe just from Andrew's neighbor thing, but still that NK flavour is weird.

[drmyshottyizsik]

So the alarmist is weak (dies) if they target what?

I'm guessing either a cultist or mafia. I wasn't told.

[drmyshottyizsik]

So the alarmist is weak (dies) if they target what?

I'm guessing either a cultist or mafia. I wasn't told.

I was basically told that if I targeted the thing that I was protecting against I would die...

[drmyshottyizsik]

unvote
vote castle bravo

Oh come on. Everyone draws awesome roles only I'm stuck with a stupid VT.

No one asked you to claim....

@shotty/silver/vezok but what about my idea?

I think it's dumb and anti town.

[drmyshottyizsik]

all mafia have weapons I think.

Not true, in a lot of games only one scum will have the power to kill.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Even Shotty hasn't confirmed anyone. He's stated roles, not alignments. Vanilla could be Goon for example, since they're functionally the same, just on different sides..

..... The role I got back was Vanilla Townie

[drmyshottyizsik]

So how about we lynch CB and Izak hammers...

[drmyshottyizsik]

Um or I could guard make who we think is scum :/

[drmyshottyizsik]

Um or I could guard make who we think is scum :/

Then they will simply refrain from targeting you with the NK.

I agree with Rainbowdash's procedure as far as directing the weak doctor skill. I suggest Meran/Junpei/Fourseen/Peregrine/Mysterio/Jakalope as the target.

True :/
If we had a vig I'd ask him to shoot me tonight, but we don't ok I will hammer and if I live I will be lynched tomrrow.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok time for my gambit to end. I am a town night role cop. That is it. I gambitted with the other roles so that I could stay alive longer and pump out more results. I felt I needed to stay alive since I recieved both alingment and role. I feel I did a good job since I`ve confirmed a few townies and have now caught a second scum. PerigrineV is a Holy SK. I`m assuming that he is the reason we have the second night kill lately. Maybe he wasnt shooting earlier because he didnt want us to hunt for 3rd party are maybe the Holy part of his role has something more to do with his role then just the flavour. Any way I feel he is the lynch for today since more than likely there are more than one mafia members left. So by lynching him we will have one less kill each night. That being said.

Vote PerigrineV

[drmyshottyizsik]

Perve should be lynch tomorrow for sure. I should be lynched the next day. And we are lynching CB today. So the end result is such. Today we lynch claimed scum. Tomorrow we lynch confirmed 3rd party and the next day we lynch me inorder to confirm as many people as possible before lylo.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Vote Perigrine

I have a jail keeper result, but I won't announce who it is.
Anyway Perigrine is the lynch today. He even claimed SK.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Why am I being lynched before perigrine?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Two town JKs?

Ya, I had 2 in a mini, so in a large it's not unthinkable.

Anyway here are my role cop thingehs.

Night 1- Rainbow Dash- VT
Night 2- Andrew- Mafia Neighbor Thingy
Night 3- ZeLinK- VT
Night 4- MoI- VT
Night 5- Person X- JK

So yes, I was gambitting with the MoI being a VT claim. I figured I had a decent chance of being right and the reward well out weighed the risk since night 4 I copped MoI and found out that I was correct. I don't have a pre-game shot either that was just part of my weird JOAT role's claim. I will not out person x so please do not ask me.

P-Edit:

Exactly. Don't know why Shotty is reluctant to out the second JK he's found.

Would you rather a PR or a VT get killed tonight?

[drmyshottyizsik]

ftr, this was Zinger's flip: "Zinger2099 was Earl Hickey, Town Jailkeeper lynched day 1"

Town JK. Not just JK. His role name was Town JK. Presumably, since your role cop gave you "Mafia Neighbouriser" on andrew, you'd also get an alignment result on a JK who, if town, should come up as "Town JK" like Zinger did.

It is a town jk.... you are dumb. Why do you think I don't want to out him. And yes the SK thing was a gambit. And he claimed SK after I outed him. He needs to die now. He is who I felt strongest on my SK read, since I feel it is obvious that we have an SK. I used my power as a gambit to get a reaction from him.

[drmyshottyizsik]

[quote="Shotty]It is a town jk.... you are dumb.[/quote]

[drmyshottyizsik]

It is a town jk.... you are dumb.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Role claim: holy serial killer

[drmyshottyizsik]

Fine Silver Bullet is a Town JK
@ Meran- Do something. You are as bad as katsuki and the other cupcakes right now.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Well lynch me and confirm these bitches

[drmyshottyizsik]

I think silver is scum can we lynch him now?

unvote vote silver

[drmyshottyizsik]

You guys still think my play was shitty?
I don't. I was well aware of what I was doing and I created as much WIFOM as possible. Thus almost all real scum reads could become arguable and town had to lynch way more blindly than if I had just died quietly. Thanks Jason for modding. I had the most fun I've ever had in this game.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Shottys play was terrible. There was no heat on him until his first claim. I have no idea

WHY

he basicly threw himself to the wolves.

Oversoul's was even worse.

Me, DX and Banshee did all the work.

This is bull shit. And very smelly shit at that. You and DavidX looked so scummy. Banshee is the only one who didn't. Why was Pere lynched? Why did we get those 2 mislynches when the obv thing was to lynch me instead?? Why was there a mislynch to end this game instead of a no lynch yesterday???? ME! I played good. I had to die and create all of that confusion so that you two could hide in it and not get lynched. We worked as a team and it worked very well. Right after a victory is not the time to start insulting the people who helped you win. Oversoul was bad yes, but it also threw off a few peoples reads. In mafia people will be lynched sometimes whether they played great and looked town or not. The key to playing a good game as mafia is to die like your death is a power role. And that's how I died. I clouded the game up. Created the fact that there was an SK, and thus it wasn't mylo, and so a no lynch was out of the question. My play was above average. Please be a good sport.

P-Edit,
Wow you are an arrogant ass hole Nero. Andrew helped us a lot more than you think. Get off your high horse and stop acting like CSL.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Also what do you mean you did all the work Nero? You did nothing... You sat there and just watch the town kill itself in the confusion I made.

[drmyshottyizsik]

You guys have totally screwed up my mind...

Exactly

[drmyshottyizsik]

You obviously the mod kill won it for us. I MEAN TOWN LOST THIS GAME! But still Nero and David please dismount your tall horses.