Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

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Oh that was you, Don?

Vote: DonJosh

for bailing on the hydra.

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I was fairly inactive, and then I had forgotten about the game for while >.< There was no way I could find time to read 50+ pages of walls

Unvote, Vote: Donjosh

for forgetting about the game.

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Ohai guys. No random vote from me today. Haters gonna hate.

Then I be hatin'.

Me, sorry.

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They have a purpose; please answer them.

1] Why did you decide to give mafiascum a try? To gain more mafia experience.
2] How do you react to people attacking you? Depends on my alignment.
3] What will you be known for in this game? idk
4] What is your time zone? EST

@nintendo: Why have an alt three months into being here? It's actually a hydra.

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nintendo are you scum?

Yes I am scum, good job finding me so quickly.

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Ninty IGMEOU.

And it's not cuz of your most recent post.

Then, why?

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Nice countervote on JohnDon or whatever his name was.

It was OMGUS RVS but I guess you missed that.

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Ninty

: You stated dislike towards Silver's non RVS voting policy, why didn't you vote him or at least FoS him? *Just in case you missed it.

Where did I say I didn't like it or was upset about it?

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Ohai guys. No random vote from me today. Haters gonna hate.

Then I be hatin'.

Me, sorry.

This right here.

You must have missed my sarcasm.

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Ninty

: I did note the sarcasm, but I thought that was your honest opinion (that you disliked it) while also saying it in a sarcastic tone. What did you think of Silver not RVS'ing then? Do you have any other thoughts on the game?

Some people don't RVS, that's fine.

Yeah... it's freaking TOY STORY.

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Ninty

: Why is someone not RVS'ing fine in your POV? Thoughts on the recent players?

Cause half the time RVS just leads to pointless wagons on townies and inevitably a mislynch. I'm surprised I haven't stopped it, actually.

What do you mean by recent players?

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can someone define "RVS" for me? i'm not familiar with this term.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=RVS

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Ninty

: Recent players meaning, people who have posted recently. Thoughts as in = Are they scummy or townie? Thank you for clarifying your thoughts on RVS

I think bob is a bit scummy for not having specific questions to ask (insert name here, I forget).
Beck I have a mild suspicion on, but not enough for a FoS. "Tunneling gets a bad-rep I realize but it can be effective." Sounds like an excuse for tunneling later.

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@DonJosh: What is your stance on wall posts?

I actually enjoy them. The only reason I flaked from my other game was because it was 50+ pages of unread walls, and I have absolutely no time to read through all that.

I feel your pain.

Unvote

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What are your recent thoughts of the game? Thoughts on the Beck wagon?

This is the point in the game where I am most laid back. Wagons in general, I might hop on, but only if I'm like second or third. I don't like when people join wagons late. Its scummy. My understanding is that Becks wagon is mostly RVS.

Am I the only one who was thinking "I join wagons early because if I join late I look scummy."

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why did you feel it necessary to announce in thread that you agree with me?

As for feeling necessary to announce in thread that I agreed with a point

Sounds like they are implying they have out-of-thread communication.

i'm going to make it known in thread that they are doing it.

There it is again.

i guarantee that the mafia want me dead right now.

Scum say this too, so that is just WIFOM.

also, yes, i am distancing myself from nanook and flavour, as well as everyone else in this game; i don't trust anyone. it is day one, the only person i trust is myself.

If you are distancing yourself from

everoyone

, why do you feel the need to single out Nanook and Flavour?

Long story short, kendall(not putting in all the spaces) has spent too much time looking active and not enough time reading his own posts to see himself telling us that he is scum.

Vote: kendall

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which leads me to believe either you missed that, or you're grasping for straws to be "suspicious" of me.

are you implying i haven't posted any content? if you think i "told you i am scum" then point it out.

if you think i'm mafia - provide instances where i have been anti-town.

no one has touched them yet. the only thing people dislike is my aggressive way of going about things, but hey, that's how i play.

if you don't like it, you're probably mafia.

Yeah, I did miss that post.

You spend a lot of time saying "mafia wants me dead, and im trying too hard to be protown so i cant be scum." So, no, I don't think you have posted as much content as others. And I read between the lines.

Uhh, your whole is.

Then you need to play better.

Actually, I don't like it. But if ten people don't like your playstyle, are you going to say that they are all scum?

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i find it ironic that these votes are stacking, and these members all have the same, illogical stance, and they all refuse to point out what i have done that serves to hurt the town.

nothing.

everything i have posted so far is pro-town
which is why i'm being bandwagoned

which is lol

come on, town.

The votes are stacking because you are doing NOTHING to HELP the town. Not helping us is in fact hurting us.

Calling yourself pro-town? talk about flawed logic. No, you're being bandwagoned for

trying

to look town, when town shouldn't have to

try

to be what it already is.

AtE is unsuccessful.

the mafia is trying to distract attention to me, exactly like i planned.

not one person has posted an instance where i have been anti-town, because there is not one.

If you are now saying that it was your plan all along, it becomes less effective, if even effective at all as you just TOLD mafia what you are up to. That either tells me you are badtown you are yourself a mafioso.

Actually, there have been plenty, but YOU have been brushing them off as nothing and bullshit.

Why, indeed?

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and the votes stack

hey town! check out this bandwagon!

This is a prime example of not defending one's self correctly.

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explain how i'm doing nothing to help the town. what am i doing to hurt the town? how can you prove i'm only trying to look town? how can you prove i'm mafia?

it is my plan, in every game. i'm aggressive, therefore i get targeted early on. my purpose isn't negated, and the bandwagon votes prove that.

like what?
link me, please. hahaha

Have you been scumhunting? No. You are playing aggressively solely to get targeted. That is NOT pro-town. But your purpose IS negated, as town voting for you. Guess what? Town vote on lynches all the time, not only scum.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3295091
"so, let me get this straight:

you are voting for me because i am trying too hard to be pro-town. how is someone exemplifying extreme pro-town behavior your first suspect to be mafia? that, in itself, is a logical fallacy."

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3295495
"@bobsnox, the only "evidence" that you have "against me" is that my actions are too pro-town. that evidence certainly does not incriminate me; in fact, it does the opposite."

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3295517
"are you saying that pointing out suspicious behavior is unnecessary? that's not very pro-town of you. "

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3295609
"it doesn't negate anything. i knew what would happen, and i was right."

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3295642
"what is the difference? everything i have done is pro-town. he says i'm trying "too hard to seem town" because i have been playing an aggressive pro-town game. what have i done that is anti-town?

i encourage you to point out anything that didn't serve to benefit the town."

"what have i done that is anti-town? point out one instance where i have hurt the town."

"neither of you have pointed out anything anti-town that i have done. you both share the same illogical argument: that i'm too pro-town. lllloooollll"

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3295833
"you didn't find anything incriminating, just a lot of misquotes and skewed logic."

"you haven't answered anything logically, in fact you've misquoted me, so your credibility is shit as far as i'm concerned."

"i find it ironic that these votes are stacking, and these members all have the same, illogical stance, and they all refuse to point out what i have done that serves to hurt the town."

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3295855
"arguments need supporting evidence. you have failed to provide that."

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3295877
"they are also deflecting when i ask for these instances, and brushing my arguments off as basically a lot of nothing, which is bullshit."

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3295889
"your argument is the only thing that is flawed right now."

"not one person can find an anti-town thing that i've done"

Enough links for you?

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i hope while i'm gone some people start to question those who accuse me. the bandwagon speaks for itself, and not one of them has explained what i've done that can be deemed "anti-town." they have either deflected, or said that i just seem to "try too hard."

yeah, i do try to be pro-town.
that's what i'm supposed to do.
serve the best interest of the town.

g'night folks.

Actually, many of us have explained EXACTLY what you've done that is anti-town. Who's deflecting? You are refusing to acknowledge any of our arguments as valid.

Now you are TRYING to be pro-town? But before you said you WERE pro-town? HMM...
Like I said before, town should never have to TRY to be pro-town.

Good riddance.

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i have scumhunted, i pointed out suspicious behavior of members. those members have subsequently targeted me, without providing evidence to incriminate me. read my earlier posts, and you'll see my suspicions and scenarios. or, ignore it with the rest of the mafia.

i don't get why you linked what you did?
all of those are valid points.

care to explain how those statements "hurt the town?"

i don't play aggressively solely to get targeted; it's just how i play. it always gains the same reaction, though. this reaction is pro-town. it's the best mafia bait, and has worked for me every time.
whether i survive the day or not, the town definitely will have a grasp on who is mafia after day one.
that's a big accomplishment.

Those links were to show you all of the places that I could find where you deflected accusations against you.
If it always gets the same reaction, how can you not plan to get targeted? You know it will happen, so it is planned. Like I said before, town are always a part of lynches, the mafia cannot lynch someone on their own. If they have those numbers, they have already won.

I think they already have a grasp on who is mafia, starting with you.

if i get to L1, someone back out until i'm on.

Oh, sure, that will

definitely

happen.

P.Edit: We're only nine pages in, go back and read the arguments between you and others. I'm not gonna link it because we're only NINE pages in. Nine.

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ACTUALLY kendall, you stated nothing about me before I targeted YOU. So this:

i have scumhunted, i pointed out suspicious behavior of members. those members have subsequently targeted me

is not accurate. Pro-town players don't play the victim.

Nice.

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Would really like to hear an opinion from Soda, Beefster, Silver, Hiraki, Hipaddict, Glowball, Fourseen, Diddin, and Chkflip. Not to mention those that haven't even posted. Maybe some fresh brains could add to the mix.

Hipaddict is a hydra I am in and posted form accidentally once, fyi.

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Seriously this wagon against Kendall just seems like it is motivated by "Teaching her a lesson" rather than actually thinking she is scum. I mean I will not deny that the suspicious behavior is there, but I find it very hard to believe that anyone really thinks that she is scum rather than just annoying.

Is this only because she is a newb? Regardless, no one should write off her actions as being a newb, I was scum in my first game of mafia.

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VOTE: kendall

REALLY don't like the "buddying up" thing.
Also, she's distancing herself from EVERYONE. Not very town-like at all.
Also don't like the "Mafia are after me" thing.

So? How does you not liking the buddying thing, make her scum?
How the hell is she distancing from everyone? This is quite reaching. Because of this very point, you are super scummy.
Null tell.

Actually, kendall even said herself that she is distancing herself from everyone.

why did you feel it necessary to announce in thread that you agree with me?

As for feeling necessary to announce in thread that I agreed with a point

Sounds like they are implying they have out-of-thread communication.

i'm going to make it known in thread that they are doing it.

There it is again.

i guarantee that the mafia want me dead right now.

Scum say this too, so that is just WIFOM.

also, yes, i am distancing myself from nanook and flavour, as well as everyone else in this game; i don't trust anyone. it is day one, the only person i trust is myself.

If you are distancing yourself from

everoyone

, why do you feel the need to single out Nanook and Flavour?

Long story short, kendall(not putting in all the spaces) has spent too much time looking active and not enough time reading his own posts to see himself telling us that he is scum.

Vote: kendall

Ninty, your post seems like you are trying to dig up the dirt on Kendall to mispaint her as scum, and also seems like you are trying to make your vote

SEEM

justified. It isn't. You are reaching. She has POINTED out the instances she FELT Me and Nanook were buddying to her, but no one else has in her POV, at that time. Her saying she would distance herself from everyone is a null tell.

So, explain further how her 'distancing from everyone' makes her scum? Btw, you are my second suspect.

No, I'm trying to get scum lynched. If you don't want to vote for her, then don't your choice.
Wait, ddin't you just say "How the hell is she distancing from everyone?" And now you are asking me about her 'distancing from everyone'?
Yeah, I'm not buying the suspect bit either, you had me as null-town earlier. Earlier today, in fact. Bullshit I am your second suspect.

if i get to L1, someone back out until i'm on.

Oh, sure, that will

definitely

happen.

Dear god what is this. Ninty, explain what you meant by this.[/spoiler]

I mean if it comes to the point where kendall is at L-1 I'm not going to be the one to unvote. Why should scum get wiggle room?

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Ninty

:

1. I didn't notice her post saying that until after I wrote that, but that doesn't matter. What matters is: How does that make her scum?
2. I had you as null-town, but it was a weak read. I'll pull up the reasoning now:

Ninty: At first he seemed a bit anti-town, but I like his play, mostly because of his mentioned suspicion of Bob and beck (Which I didn’t expect).

I’ll put him to null-town because he has only expressed suspicion of popular topics (Bob, Beck) and not others.

See that last line? Your suspicions on Bob and Beck came out of no where, but I liked that you did that. That's IT. People have already expressed suspicion about them, so this was in no way original content.

Then, your vote on Kendall was very scummy. So my read on you changed.
3. But she said only to wait for her to GET ON, to essentially defend herself/claim. Get it?

So, while I was suspecting players that others had already talked about having suspicions on, you had me as a null-town. But when I decide to do my own thing, I'm scum? Do you hear yourself? That's like saying I'm not scum for sheeping a wagon, but I am scum for being the first vote on someone.

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AND I WILL DEAL WITH IT, BY CONTINUING TO PROD PEOPLE TO POST WHEN NEEDED.

I'm pretty sure the mod is supposed to prod people, so stop the micromanagement and play the game.

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1. You didn't give original content at that point. You weren't the first on Kendall's wagon. Others have expressed dislike of her. Your REASONING WAS BAD, AND SCUMMY.

No, I will not stop. I am playing the game. It doesn't hurt anyone.

Never said I was the first, that was an example. Continue to think what you want, I'll continue to think kendell is scum.

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Can you answer the question though?

I'm serious if you ask the same question again and remind me of what you said TWO minutes ago again I'm not going to answer you. By the time I post you have posted again asking the same question so just chill.

I've already said why she is scum, go back and read. I'm tired of this.

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Ninty

: You DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. how does her 'distancing' from everyone, MAKE HER SCUM?

Why would anyone want to distance themselves from anyone, let alone EVERYONE? Distancing is a scum tactic, one used all too often.

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Kendall is not playing the newbcard and not really behaving like a newb either.

Really? Look at kendall's first sentence in the thread:

blah blah blah, i'm new, let's go.

Looks like playing the newbcard to me.

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Mod I am really sorry but I need to replace out, I have a lot going on and will be unable to give this game the attention it deserves.