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MagnaofIllusion wrote:@MOD–Would either Fate or Reck posting in thread satisfy the Defcon 1 requirements (similar to Vi posting in place of the likely yet to be activated Vi/CSL Hydra)?
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VOTE TOTAL WAR
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Mina wrote:Confirming in the sense that I've read my role PM, but I still haven't decided whether or not to vote total warfare yet. Big analysis post coming tomorrow when I'm more lucid. I'm trying to see if there's a way to completely break this game, but the terrorist role throws a wrench into things.
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gorilla still theorizing: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p3116034
vi response: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3116059
gamma response: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3116099
Vi's response is curiously different. Gamma's is satisfyingly town. Vi = scum 1? Fate agrees, I must be right!Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Gammagooey wrote:Noooooope.
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hate the herpderp LYNCHTRADES? with Fate.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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important thing is the intent but never doing such imo. into the nukepot.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In other words, I called you scummy, so I can die?
Awesome. Explain reading both Mina and I as scum. Cause I don't think you can be town and in good faith make that connection.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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I think you misinterpreted my response to gamma on this page which was calling mina scum, not gamma. Skimmah.Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Mina is a "I promised content and haven't given any" thing. Removable upon the time she actually, you k ow, provides the promised content.
You are scum for your misrepresentation of Vi, calling Gamma town, and then turning around and calling him scum based off something ridiculous. Vi and Gamma ARE suspicious, but not for the reasons you give. Which makes me go "hmmmm"
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Vi, let's make amends. Lld is scumShow"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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, yeah?Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Gammagooey wrote:So LLD basically just revved up her car and drove 60mph into deathbomb county
This is why I play this game.
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Sending in this list.
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AlmasterGM wrote:Internet StrangerreplacesZhero.Thanks!
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Magua wrote:Screaming Death Clan wrote:Magua are we scum?
You're not in my top three choices to lynch, but SDC-scum is certainly a possibility I haven't discounted. You play hyper-aggressive regardless of alignment.
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How did I miss that post of RC's with the lists and such. Those reads are terrible. I'm a good lynch? ReckFate is a BETTER lynch?
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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:scumPooky plays for survival
townPooky plays for glory
tru story
Do we have to go over self-meta again?
Every game?
If you know it, it can be faked.
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SpyreX wrote:You gonna call Vi out on that but I get a free pass considering I wanted Zhero dead from the getout?
I can't even formulate right the not-quite-irony of a list of names in a post complaining about lists.
To be fair, he didn't list the whole playerlist, which is what he was complaining about.
Also, Spy, were you using the replace-out as a reason to suspect Zhero/IS? 'Cause that's the main reasoning that I get from IS's post.
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Actually, ooba makes some sense in that SpyreX COULD be scum with IS.
But I think IS is just getting a bad rap so.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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People spreading this Hez = 100% antitown misinformation need to a) eat a nuke or b) stop lapping up what scum are feeding you.
Yes, Hez was pointing a whole lot of fingers, and being all ranty. Maybe it was just me but I really never thought he'd actually pull the trigger when we reached DEFCON 1. I can understand you saying Hez is scum because of it, but just wanting to nuke him because you think those things make him 100% antitown is Pants-On-Head logic.
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danakillsu wrote:inHim wrote:Maybe it was just me
Now you understand.
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MagnaofIllusion wrote:Gorilla wrote:actually, screw it, i'm going to follow my heart here - this is a scummy post
Please articulate why dana using American rhetoric in his posts is scummy but others doing so (IS, Pooky) doing so don’t get a peep of suspicion from you.
I find it interesting that you jump to the American rhetoric as gorilla's main reason for suspicion. I would tend to think of dropping the line "4 pro-town players..." and not naming them is the scummier bit.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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MagnaofIllusion wrote:inHimshallibe wrote:
I find it interesting that you jump to the American rhetoric as gorilla's main reason for suspicion. I would tend to think of dropping the line "4 pro-town players..." and not naming them is the scummier bit.
Well, you'd have to be pretty thick not to see that the 4 Pro-Town players dana was talking about were the four previous Hez voters.
So the American rhetoric is the only other element left.
Agreed that it's pretty obvious who the 4 were. I'd still wager it's more in the presentation/wording of the "4 players" bit than the rhetoric, but I suppose gorilla's the only one that can answer that.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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vote: Lady Lambdadelta
Is there a reason I should not do this? I mean, I'll probably generously offer up an L-1 vote to anyone I don't consider town *coughAVOXcough* and let SpyreX have honors, but I seem to recall some listing LLD as town.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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So, tell me RC.
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Euch. Town mindset is to kill one and then just kill the other. You're not contributing anything by pushing the secondmost popular wagon if you think they're both scum.RedCoyote wrote:dana 688 wrote:Love how all that is based on nothing but logic and doesn't try to get people to do what you want by simply telling them to do it. [/sarcasm]
Well, yeah, bro, because I'm town.
I'm thinking in the long term. I'm thinking, "How will people find the third/fourth scum on D4/5?"The best way to do this would be to force all players to commit their votes to logical, popular wagons. This doesn't mean I think other players shouldn't try to get their wagons more popular, but it just so happens that the two people I want to see dead the most are the first and third most popular vote getters. You better believe I'm going to be on my soapbox.
vote: RedCoyote
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RedCoyote wrote:MoI 692 wrote:If one was scum and one was Town there's a purpose to dueling wagons.
I don't see a point if both are scum.
As much as I appreciate your deference to my judgment, as crazy as it sounds, sometimes even I cannot predict scum perfectly.
Although I do think they are both scum, I'm realistic enough to think that that would, statistically speaking, be extremely improbable.
That being said, even if it were the case, wagonning two scum on the first day sounds like a good problem to have.
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IS 694 wrote:So RC, you want me to give up my intuition, to give up my ingenuity, give up my freedoms and follow the crowd of lemmings on their way to lynch AV? And you say that youre not a Eurotrash Socialist scumbag?
If you honestly think you can get a Vi wagon moving, then have at it. I'm just trying to save you some time.
At the bold and the latter quote.RedCoyote wrote:And why would I advocate a wagon on a person I thought was town anyways?
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RedCoyote wrote:MoI 699 wrote:So given you've completely backed away from your stance not an hour ago and now don't think both are scum
Uh, no. I do. I also know I will not predict the entire game correctly. Why am I not allowed to use that piece of knowledge in my scumhunting?
Given the fact that I think both dana and AV have a good chance at being scum, then it's more likely that I'm right about one of those predictions than it is if I advocated, say, Hez, who I do not consider to have a greater chance at being scum (over dana or AV).
But this didn't require an unvote of AV to prove this.
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SpyreX wrote:Wellll when SDC is yelling for your blood and he's town as all getout I get paranoid and want to quell those feelings and watching you in your element does it.
Actually ML or Pooky would be REALLY interesting for me to see.
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Oh, in that case you're justified.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Swift Justice wrote:lld isn't dead yet? lolkay.
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Swift Justice wrote:vote lld
MORE VOTES AND WE KILL HER.
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Well, then Equinox comes and posts up ins. Re: RC saying he could be wrong - definitely agree that is not the scum part of this equation. It is that he claims that while not providing a reasonable justification for bumping AV down/moving dana up than "Competing wagons are good."Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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AurorusVox wrote:So Gamma's post reads as "I know AV isn't scum but let's just mislynch him anyway"
Are youtryingto get scum to their kill quicker and lower town's numbers, GG? Cos that's what it looks like there.
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MagnaofIllusion wrote:Forgot this -
@Magister Ludi -if you hold a Nuke do you still intend to use it on DEFCON 1 on the player with the least amount of posts at Day's start?
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I don't get this, especially since you agreed with me about why RC was scum.MagnaofIllusion wrote:Screaming Death Clan wrote:Sociopath is killing off people who can read him and are threats
We're next
I r sad
Vote: AV
So Sociopath is confirmed scum to you.
Who is killing those who can read him.
And you are next.
Yet you are voting on the dominant bandwagon instead of trying to lynch Sociopath and save your "True Blue American" self from exploding trucks.
I'll bite.
UNVOTE: AV
VOTE: Sociopath
Come on Fate / Reck .. let's actually hang the person you think is the terrorist. Don't keep him alive because you like him.
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MagnaofIllusion wrote:Inhim wrote:I don't get this, especially since you agreed with me about why RC was scum.
Explain to me why you're voting SP here?
I vote Socio for two reasons here.
1. He’s non-scum hunting, active lurking scum. That should be obv from his ISO.
2. More importantly I wanted to test SDC’s reaction to be asking to wagon Socio for future possible relational tells. Their response was whelming.
What does agreeing with you on RC have anything to do with Socio? Can you elaborate please?
Doesn't have to do with SocioPath, it has to do with your choice of actions, those mainly being what I was accusing RC of yesterday.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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those gorilla votes are bad and you three should feel bad.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Well, um personally I'd like to nuke about 14 or so, leaving about 9 alive...Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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AurorusVox wrote:Hez is just scared because he knows if people start mass nuking he's going down and his scumbuddies can't save him.
inHim, are the 9 people you want to live the 9 people on my list? :p
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But I like the Swiss. ._.
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Katsuki-confirmed, bitches.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Oh, Socio, I'm sorry it had to come down to this. Is it OK if I chuckle at the irony when you claim Battleship, even though you nailed my ass to the wall eleventy times better than MoI did to you?Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Well, I still hold reservation you could be American and this is a reckless MoI gambit. The reversal of fate would be humorous, though.
I agree with you about Mina, by the by, so if you flip town I might just crate her.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:meh fuck it
i gotta get IS's back
nuke Gammagooey
yo inhim, nuke MoI for me if Socio flips town
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Heh.
Hee... ha... ho ho...
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LLD is also scum that cracked the code imo.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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SocioPath wrote:HOLY SHIT ITS LIKE CLOCKWORK.
THERES FATE.
OH MAN.
We have a phrase on another site we like to use. It goes like this:
Fate wrote:Socio reading me wrong?
Lol Let him eat his nuke.
Reck I need the pass again, ill catch up on the thread later tonight
WELL LOOK AT THE TIMING OF THIS MOTHERFUCKER.
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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'm agreeing with the school of thought that Kats didn't aircraft Sociopath. Leaving only Gamma to possibly do that.
Which means Toog's been working his counter-intelligence.
Nuke: Toogeloo
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Christ, we've outed the whole team, haven't we. They're flailing like babes grasping for their mother's teat.
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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:inHim has been consistently WRONG this whole game.
He's still wrong now~
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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Gamma is certified 100% European scum. Why do I need to wait?
@=g3,8d\&fbb=-q/hk%fg
You need to wait BECAUSE GAMMAGOOEYMIGHTBE TELLING THE GODDAMNED TRUTH.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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