Firefly Mafia - Voyage over

[BabyJesus]

vote Yosarian2

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote EmpTiger

of everyone seems to be fishing for info the most.

[BabyJesus]

Fuldu:
Yes, there is a point to my “little distraction”. Would it be acceptable if I decline to explain what this point is until everyone has responded? I believe that there are 5 left to do so: {squiggle, BJ, MN, Nanook, tss}

I've seen the movie and a few episodes...

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote thok

probably should replace nanook, he seems mia in a lot of games.

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote Yosarian-

where is he?

Um, I posted on Monday. What are you talking about?

It's Wednesday now, guy.

[BabyJesus]

He ususally does...

Do you really think that comment was necessary?

Nonetheless, not that I see any importance to it or anything, but NO I haven't seen the show.

Unvote: Emptyger, Vote: Vismajor

no claim?

unvote, vote nanook

I wasn;t gonna vote him for lurking when he ws doing that everywhere, but checking in and no comment on having 6 votes?

Lets make it 7 votes.

[BabyJesus]

Hmmm...well, it can be useful to figure out what we've lost. Anyone want to guess what role Shepard Book might have had?

With the Nanook bandwagon, it seems a little wierd how fast it was moving, but Nanook's total lack of response or surprise to the fact that he has 6 votes on him also seems really strange. If you log on, and find out that you suddenly have 6 votes on you, why would you not even mention it?

Between trying to start up role speculation and indiscriminate finger-pointing, both at Nanook and at those on his bandwagon, all without a placed vote, I think Yosarian2 deserves more attention than we're giving him. At any rate, my vote won't be moving any time soon.

Yosarian always does that kind of stuff. As scum and town.

[BabyJesus]

Well, Babyjesus .. considering that I only had 6 votes out of 9 didn't really make me

nervous

so to speak. I expected to have a lot of votes since I have been missing in most of my games for the past week. So there was no shocker there that I'd have a bandwagon, which is why I didn't even comment on it.

I'm back now, so if you all feel that your votes are good where they are at, then so be it.

already ran ya up, might as well get a claim and go from there

[BabyJesus]

I see we're letting nanook off the hook, and he still has yet to contribute and is back to lurking.....

nice

[BabyJesus]

this game drags yet again!

:shrug:

its day one, I have nothing more to add.... nanook's blatant ignoring of the game even after checking in the best reason I can find for a vote so far.

[BabyJesus]

80% of the time I see people refuse to claim N1, they are scum pissed off that the daer landed on them....

[BabyJesus]

I don't know what more you really wish for me to "contribute" BJ, as I stated my defense as to why I was inactive..

how about thoughts on players, ideas in game, top scum suspect, etc.... "Waah, I told you guys why I'm lurking" is NOT contributing.

[BabyJesus]

I believe Nanook has other things on his plate right now. I probably would have reacted in the same way if I were harrassed about attentiveness to a game on a forum from which I expected support.

then I would support lynching you in the same way

[BabyJesus]

Vote Count

NanookTheWolf- 8 (Dragon Phoenix, d8p, bloojay, Baby Jesus, Peacebringer, ~deathsquiggle~, Vismajor, Thok)
VisMaior- 2 (armlx, NanooktheWolf)
Peacebringer- 2 (Iammars, Otaku376)
Yosarian2- 1 (Fuldu)
armlx- 1 (the silent speaker)
~deathsquiggle~- 1 (Mini Neo)

Not voting (2): Yosarian2, EmpTyger
9 to lynch.

Focusing on the offvoters of Nannok, as I am sure his scumbuddies would have wanted to keep him around, I will

vote the silent speaker

Could go for any of the other offvoters also.

[BabyJesus]

I don;t think Iammers is the play today

[BabyJesus]

Seriously,

tss

is the play. From what I have seen of his play in other games, when he is pro-town he is quite possibly the worst player I have ever seen.

He did not contribute to lynching scum yesterday, and combining that with the fact he is really bad at this game, he should be an easy lynch here.

[BabyJesus]

Is there something to the "D's" I missed?

[BabyJesus]

Umm, no, you were still running around all willy nilly.

If you don't explain this, I'm not going to be able to defend myself (of course, if you're not going to explain yourself, I'm not sure I should even have to).

running around willynilly is a scum tell.

unvote, vote deathsquiggle

[BabyJesus]

Umm, no, you were still running around all willy nilly.

If you don't explain this, I'm not going to be able to defend myself (of course, if you're not going to explain yourself, I'm not sure I should even have to).

running around willynilly is a scum tell.

unvote, vote deathsquiggle

So is bandwagoning townies.

So which one of you should I vote?

sorry guy, you and Iammars are the leading vote getters right now, and I don;t like a Iammars vote at all.

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote EmpTyger

he's scum

[BabyJesus]

Alright, I hope everyone had a happy new years.

I still want to know why people are voting for me.

Also, BJ, how do you know he's scum. Do you have any proof?

proof? no. Gut feeling from his posts.

[BabyJesus]

Seriously, lets not lynch Iammars today. WTF are you people thinking?

[BabyJesus]

still suspicious of Empy, but I will

unvote, vote vote D8P

[BabyJesus]

that should put him 1 away, so we may as well just finish him....

[BabyJesus]

unvote

[BabyJesus]

I can confirm his mason claim, seeing as how I'm the other mason. Unvotes please?

so you are doc tam then, I assume....

[BabyJesus]

I'm going back to my original suspicion and vote

EmpTiger

[BabyJesus]

BabyJ:
I *really* don’t like your dangerously reckless “may as well just finish him”- there was a good reason to keep him alive. At that point, regardless of his alignment, it was better to have him speak. If he was protown and had information about mafia setup, it could be vital that this not be lost with his death. If he was antitown, nothing would be lost by waiting, and he might have let something slip. And if he, like Nanook, appeared to be stalling, we could reevaluate then. (To say nothing of what actually happened- a verifiable claim.)

Plus your probing for ~ds~’s role name. It is unnecessary at this point, since ~ds~ will live or die by the mason claim. But it could potentially be very harmful for the town to have that information revealed.

The fact that you keep defending Iammars I’ll not evaluate until after the evaluation of Iammars himself is finished. Though I still don’t see, even if for whatever reason you don’t think Iammars should be lynched today, why you would not want him to at least explain his suspicious behavior.

I'm going back to my original suspicion and

vote EmpTiger

Er, wasn’t tss your original suspicion? <looks at BabyJ’s profile> And why me, rather than armlx, who wanted to lynch a mason after his claim?


~ds~:
Just to make it explicit, I highly recommend you do *not* come forward with your character name, or any further details. Let the mafia guess.

1) do you REALLY think someone was going to finish him off before he checked in simply on my sayso? Please, I suggest we speedlynch people all the time, I have yet to see anyone take me seriously. Although I do get lynched for it alot....

2) I'm not fishing for ds's role name. Doc Tam is the only possibility for a mason buddy with River Tam, this isn't news.

3) I'm already revenge voting armlx in another game, if his claim is BS, I'll join in on him, otherwise I'm still voting you.

4) I disagree on Iammars because I don't find his actions suspicious.

[BabyJesus]

Tss- I think you might be right. And I think BJ is scum with armlx.

[BabyJesus]

1 more vote and I'll claim. My name alone should be enough, but I could be wrong...

unvote, vote armlx

[BabyJesus]

unvote

[BabyJesus]

So, is nobody worried about the possibility of scum being given safe names to claim?

I would imagine that is the case, personally. Isn't that usually the case in theme games?

I just dn't think armlx is the play as I have said, I only voted him so he would spill his name. Waiting for one more vote is stupid.

[BabyJesus]

oops, sorry.

vote EmpTiger

Been my main suspect all day long, I thought I was on him already.

[BabyJesus]

I'm Kaylee, I'm a cop, Mini Neo/Otaku is innocent UNVOTE

o rly....

unvote

[BabyJesus]

Final Vote Count

Iammars ( 8 )

- EmpTyger, Yosarian, Fritzler, the silent speaker, Thok, Fuldu, Peacebringer, DP

Baby Jesus (1)

- d8p

Not voting: ~deathsquiggle~, Ranger, otaku, armlx, BabyJesus, Iammars

Iammars is lynched. He was

Captain Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds

... a cop in this game.

72 hour deadline

for night choices. PM me if more time is required.

pretty sure we're gonna find some scum piling on Iammars here.

[BabyJesus]

vote Peacebringer

[BabyJesus]

I'm not either type of scum, but I'll repeat what I said yesterday; I'm willing to let you guys lynch me without a claim, since I have a fairly weak role that's basically unconfirmable.

ugh. I hate people that won't claim.

unvote, vote thok

[BabyJesus]

I completely agree with this, just because he said this doesn't mean Peacebringer is scum.Doesn't mean he's not.

Vote: OtakuII

I'm inclined to vote Peacebringer today for 2 reasons.

1) His lowflying yesterday is unlike him. Trying to avoid notice?
2) He was roleblocked Night 3. No poisoner struck Night 3. He was most likely NOT roleblocked Night 4. Poisoner struck Night 4,and killed the roleblocker.

Also, not sure if there is any benefit in having everyone claim a name at this point or not, but it IS something to think about.

vote peacebringer

[BabyJesus]

I have reason to believe peacebringer is innocent from my n3 investigation, as in I am a triggered cop and know I am at least not insane (last night I got tss as innocent and according to the front page badger is listed as protown).

3 cops? seems a bit much, without one being naive. I still like my vote on PB, until I hear a good reason no one was poisoned when he was blocked

[BabyJesus]

1) His lowflying yesterday is unlike him. Trying to avoid notice?
2) He was roleblocked Night 3. No poisoner struck Night 3. He was most likely NOT roleblocked Night 4. Poisoner struck Night 4,and killed the roleblocker.

I know PB has suggested in another thread that he's sick of the slow pace of games here and won't likely be signing up for any more on this board, which might explain the lowflying. Not much of an excuse, but one people should at least be aware of.

As for your second point, it's an unclear enough argument that it's starting to drift into the gray area between argument and crap logic, so I'm going to give you a chance to clarify before I come down on you. The poisoner didn't strike Nights 1 or 2, either. What about the situation makes you inclined to believe that the lack of a poisoning on Night 3 is more noteworthy than on the preceding two nights?

becuase I don't know who was blocked those previous nights, unless it was said and I skimmed it. Plus whoever the poisoner was could have hit a doc protection, or an unkillable role.
All I know is we had more kills tonight then previous nights, and Peacebringer was blocked one of those previous nights. Thats worth a vote in my book.

[BabyJesus]

3 cops? seems a bit much, without one being naive. I still like my vote on PB, until I hear a good reason no one was poisoned when he was blocked

Read the death blurb on tss, BJ. Badger appears to have been an investigator of some sort, as well.

As for the PB block, I think you're giving too much credence to the notion that the poisoner might have missed the kill for other reasons the other two nights. The odds of missing three nights in a row are pretty bad, and suggesting that the roleblock of PB last night is the best evidence you have to point to scum seems shady for this late in the game. My best explanation is that the poisoner can only kill even nights and missed Night Two for one of the various possible reasons.

Plus, as I go back and check, I see that

this thread

is the one in which PB mentioned that he wasn't devoting much to time to this forum any more. The combination of a poorly reasoned argument in what, with two or three scum groups remaining, has to be an endgame scenario with a bandwagon against someone who almost certainly isn't going to put much effort into defending himself makes this seem like an attempt by scum to slip something in quickly.

vote: BabyJesus

I personally don't give 2 shit if PB is or is not going to defend himself. You think I'm voting him because he's not around? Hardly. While you say there are "pretty bad odds" that the poisoner missed 3 nights in a row, the FACT remains that the poisoner DID NOT KILL 3 nights in a row. If Peacebringer is the poisoner, that only requires 2 nights to be accounted for. Anyone else, and we are forced to account for THREE nights.

Maybe you don't find PB suspicious. I do. And I've played a lot more games with him then you have. Not to mention, he is one of the "unconfirmed" bunch. I want to hear a roleclaim from him at the very least.

[BabyJesus]

oops, my brain is misfiring on so many levels.

My role name is Jayne Cobb, my role is vig. Some reason I initially had in my brain that Book would be vig.

Jared Cooper is what my brain did with the name after having several days pass since I last looked at it.

BJ- seriously, you should know me better then that and you have no become a top suspect.

unvote

And what do you mean "know you better then that?"

My vote was from hypothesizing that you were responsible for one of the extra kills, since you were roleblocked last night when we had less kills. You are claiming vig, so I was right.

[BabyJesus]

Unless someone can point to a specific reason to shift my vote to Fritzler or Ranger, I would invite other players to join me on a BabyJesus bandwagon. From a sheer numbers standpoint, one of the three (and possibly more) is almost certain to be scum, but I like BJ better than the other two.

Hmmm, I don't want to let ranger down, he says I just shamelessly vote (which is basically true), so

Vote: Baby Jesus

Yea. I didn't find it that weak of a reason, though, I mean he was right that PB was responsible for one of the additional kills last night. I think he covereed the most likely scenario, even if there were other options.

wow, you're quite the bandwagon jumper.

[BabyJesus]

Also I wonder if a mass claim would be a worthwile option

I have said this several times....

I would be happy to "fess up" first if you like....

[BabyJesus]

meanwhile, I'm going to

vote fritzler

I know he likes to bandwagon, but seriously, he's acting like he really doesn't care today who we lynch....

I do that kind of thing day one. This late in the game not such a good idea.

[BabyJesus]

Also I wonder if a mass claim would be a worthwile option

I have said this several times....

I would be happy to "fess up" first if you like....

I claimed here, fyi....

Fess Higgins, townie.

[BabyJesus]

1 away....

go ahead and drop the hammer someone, and lets move on. As I said, just a townie here, so no big loss.