Mafia MetaMafia ~ Game Over!

[Nobody Special]

Also, this isn't a Night 0 vig, so don't say that it is.

Assuming AlmasterGM is telling the truth, which I am currently doing, it *is* a Night 0 vig *that requires the consent of the town*. That is *exactly* what it is. In fact, it's even *better* because we get to see mothrax's play before we decide to go through with it or not.

Bear with me for a bit: Suppose in one hand, I'm holding an apple, and in the other, an orange. Got it so far? Good.

Now, I show you the apple, and I say, "This is an apple. And it's

good.

" Now, when I show you the orange, I tell you "This apple is

better,

though, because it has Vitamin C!"

This is precisely what you're saying. You're trying, albeit cleverly, to twist the game circumstances for (I assume) your own purposes. Stop it.

VasudeVa: Don't give me this 'essentially' bullshit. You're trying to rename something into something else it isn't, and that's not pro-town.


That said, I am not thrilled with AGMs supposed power, nor his request, nor his tunneling of mothrax.

Equinox is behaving in a very Town manner (but I'm not sure if I've ever seen Scum!Equinox in a large game. I have in smaller ones. I'll have to look into this).

MoI is being MoI. Null-to-town so far.

Sottyrulez: Without getting into your specific Role PM, do you think that perhaps every player's Role PM would share certain similarities? Why or why not?:

I'll just put you on my "to-be-ignored-all-game" list now

This is no anti-town it hurts.

Your case on me: lol I voted twice in the same post
Uh okay.
That's not a case. I'll just put you on my "to-be-ignored-all-game" list now.

Again, defensiveness trying to be passed off as casual. Liking my vote more.

@Equinox:

Your opinion on Parama, please.

this is one huge slander campaign. great.

unvote, vote: magua

I don't care that VV has basically claimed scum. Magua basically just posted

his

role PM for us.

"his" = VV or Magua? Sorry, you know how dumb I can be about these things.

Parama: Scumhunting. What do I win?

Stretching crappy reasoning too far. ("Basicially just posted his role PM for us?") Also keenly aware that if Magua is lynched and I'm nk'd town is down on most of it's setup speculators in a fairly complex setup.

Hmmm .. not sure what to make of this. Why would you bother to specifically go out of your way to say this

Are you legitimately asking, or do you know and you're trying not to be obvious about it? I am pretty sure of the answer.

I still need to come back to: Gamma, Plum (not much), AGM, and more! Also, page 9 onward.

[Nobody Special]

I'm not reading any walls. Don't worry, Nobody's important.

FTFY.

[Nobody Special]

(I knew what you meant. But I fixed it anyway. Work with me here.)

[Nobody Special]

To touch back on something I myself said, and Plum alludes to, as well:

Do

people play differently in Large vs. nonLarge games? (This is largely a Note To Self; feel free to ignore.)

I don't think I play differently just because of number of players. (Do I?)

[Nobody Special]

VPB: Why useless? it's still a town-driven (we can hope) "free" lynch. As much as I'm not sure if I like that it's there, it could be useful to us if we're intelligent about it.

@Mod:

Am I correct in my belief that

the Day ends when the battery reaches 0%? And

each Day starts with 100% Battery? (I've never played with batteries before, but reading the rules does help. Somewhat.)

I am a High Priest of Xylthixlm. One of my abilities is to choose a player to

policy lynch

during the pregame.

1) I'm not Old Guard enough to really know or know about Xylthixlm. Can you (or anyone) shed light on a possible logical connection between him and Policy Lynching?

2) Why is the choice specifically to be made during pregame? While I appreciate the timing (announcing this in your first post), I'm unclear why "pregame" was specified. Thoughts?

[Nobody Special]

Just throwing this out there: What if AGM is lying?

[Nobody Special]

No, I don't know what he'd have to gain from it (if he is). It's just something that came unbidden into my mind.

Thanks for all the Xyl info.

[Nobody Special]

Kat, why are you focusing on Equi when I said essentially the same thing?

[Nobody Special]

Now, the two questions for you NS:

Q1. Would you vig someone N0?
Q2. Do you think mothrax is town?

1) If I were 1-shot, no. If I were unlimited, yes.

2) Far too early to tell, reliably. I need more to work with. Gut is leaning slightly town, though (meta).

[Nobody Special]

No, no, NO. He appears to be a 1-shot that's restricted to the first day.

AGM, correct?

[Nobody Special]

So, Magua, what are you asking me? If I agree? No, I think it's too early to tell mothrax's alignment.

[Nobody Special]

And for the record, while NobodySpecial is alwaysscum, there is ONE meta-tell on him that I have a decent degree of confidence in, and at least so far he's clean, so hey.

Oh, God,

the pressure.

(Hint: I'm town. And actually, you know,

trying

.)

Just throwing this out there: What if AGM is lying?

He's not. Could be scum (though I'm not as strongly opinionated about it, learning he's only seen you as scum) but I have every bit of confidence if we lynch mothrax the day continues on.

How/why are you so sure? Share with the class.

[Nobody Special]

Hi. Nothing should be read into my lack of participation thus far toDay. I've been hammered at work; The Careful Reader will note that my participation sitewide has been exceedingly minimal.

That said, I'm happy with a quadz lynch; not voting yet as we're quite close, and I think he deserves at least a chance to try to explain himself. I will have some questions for him later tonight or in the morning. Careful re-reading is in order.

[Nobody Special]

@RayFrost: Tell me why I should believe you're town.

[Nobody Special]

Hi. Reality surfaced, and kidnapped me for a few days. My apologies. I'm on page 40; with almost 20 pages to read I'll be updating as I go.

On page 39, ooba voted me: I just want to say that my absence from this game has no connection to the game. Check my posting history since middle of last week, if you care to. I've been modding and posting a (very) few nonposts in non-game threads.

Anyway, more soon.

[Nobody Special]

I am really,

really

sorry for my sparse activity lately. Life/work got very busy unexpectedly, but I've cleared most of that up this past weekend. Activity should be normal from here on out. I'm caught up with the thread, and ready to win.

Vote: Plum

Question: Am I being voted solely for lack of activity, or something else?

[Nobody Special]

I am High Priest of Cyberbob.

Town, Chaotic Evil. My domains are Concision and Solism.

I can Worship and Cast.

Casts by # of worships:

2) untargetable for one night.
2) Roleblock
3) Kill anyone who targets me
3) Roleblock one player for my lifetime
5) I can broadcast one player's night action the following morning.

AGM, claim next, please.

[Nobody Special]

Also, does anyone honestly believe that there were ZERO scum on MoI's wagon?

Oh, no. At least two. One of which was probably AGM. (Unpopular read, but it's my gut. I'm going with it for now.)

[Nobody Special]

I didn't claim targets &c initially because I ... didn't. It was hard enough paraphrasing such short phrases.

I received 2 faith Night 1, but I neglected to choose an action prior to Night deadline.

Last night I worshipped Justice, as I had a townread on Ray.


Faraday, I think typing out the exact cast name would be too close to quoting.

[Nobody Special]

CLAIM, SCUM.

[Nobody Special]

Well. The rules say if I quote my Role PM I'll get Modkilled, which I really don't want. I'm waiting for Vi to respond to my PM about this.

[Nobody Special]

Well, okay. It still feels .... bad, somehow.

Remember, Cyberbob.

2) Constant Rebuttal - untargetable for one night.
2) lol - Roleblock
3) High Level of Intellectual Discourse - Kill anyone who targets me
3) Public Service - Roleblock one player for my lifetime
5) Relevant Link - I can broadcast one player's night action the following morning.

[Nobody Special]

unvote

Vote: DDD

Plum is now most likely town; DDD is my best read for scum.

I'll skip the AtE; but I'm town. I'll leave it to the town, and apologize again for my lack of activity.

[Nobody Special]

NS
- What did you do N0 and N2?
- In addition to this, what were you faith totals N2 and N3?

N2 I had 0 faith.
N3 I had 0 faith.

I did not worship N0 in hopes of being able to Cast N1.

I did nothing N2.

[Nobody Special]

Yeah, what do you think I'm lying about?

[Nobody Special]

I want to know what Seraphim thinks I'm lying about.

[Nobody Special]

I am not lying. Those numbers are straight from the PMs that Vi sent me.

Clearly, DA is lying. Hear me now, believe me later.

[Nobody Special]

---The Domain of Dom is in mourning...

Just wondering... what was this about?

I'll give you a hint. It came just below The Domain of Will being removed from the game.

[Nobody Special]

Isn't page 3 for calculating the battery deadlines?