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@jedi - I find your assessment of what I said about Gman pretty funny for how hard you are straining to remove the context (and still failing!). I did say Gman needs to kill someone the town wants dead. Why should I tell him who that is? I think there are plenty of obvious choices any townie would see here. Directing only gives scum a chance to affect the outcome more. Giving Gman autonomy in his decision gives him a chance to prove himself easier.
@Furc - assigning arbitrary percentages does what really? I've said I find Gman's claim believable, so I'd like him to prove it. Then we can give him a meaningful 100% approval rating. If you are dying for a percentage though, I'd say above 70% chance Gman is town imo.YOUR AD HERE
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@Primate- It is deadline now. Move your vote to Empking if that's where you're going to put it. Stop stalling.
Also, there is most certainly scum in the lurkers. Deadline is tomorrow and scum want to stall this thing out to no lynch or make it a mad scramble at the finish so they don't have to claim responsibility for their votes. Pull your shit together and vote useful wagons today people.YOUR AD HERE
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Yeah, it does match his iso in those posts. Not sure if the alignment is true, but that flavor would match with mick foley it would seem. Still want to hear any actions that have happened so far.
I'm still processing, but if I decide to switch, I'm going to the empking wagon.YOUR AD HERE
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@ Sottyrulez
first you don't answer my question at all, then you try to chain lynches. Cool. There is only one way I see you as town this game, but I'll reserve that statement for later. In the meantime, please answer my question to you about Gman.
Also, remember Stars Aligned that just finished when I was scum and you were town, and you were giving me shit for not voting on a necessary lynch and making the game go down to deadline. What's up with all that biz-snatch?YOUR AD HERE
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ANSWER MY GOD DAMN QUESTION ABOUT THE GMAN WAGON. WHO WOULD SUPPORT IT?
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No, I am not arguing that's why I was caught. That's pretty irrelevant to my argument. My point is that you made a show in that game of calling me scummy because I was apparently waffling during the nitty gritty of deadline (which was true because I was trying to save a scum buddy). I'm saying I don't understand how you were calling me scummy for it there and yet you're doing it right now on a wagon that is almost certainly not going to happen. I'll go pull quotes if I have to, but you know I'm right.YOUR AD HERE
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Sottyrulez is scum. I think Gman should vig them tonight. FYI.
Why you ask? Zach scum flails and changes his previously bad logic story, that's why. How did you get from 'VP is engineering the jedi wagon to stop Gman wagon' to 'oh, there's no Gman wagon support now'? As far as I can tell, nothing really happened from the taking off of the jedi wagon to now that would change the minds of Gman supporters, would it? Explain that for me.
Additionally, answer my point about SA III. Why did that scum tell apply to me in that game, but it doesn't apply to you here? Appenine isn't accurate meta since it's from forever and a day ago. Also, my point isn't about compromising, it's about dragging the deadline out as long as possible on a lynch that isn't going to happen....which is exactly what you're doing here.YOUR AD HERE
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@chesskid - I actually agree about Furc, but we tried that once today and people wouldn't bite.
@DDD - Tell me at least you can see what I see about SZ. I think it's pretty damn blatant they haven't been playing like town at all this game. Not even in the Royal Rumble.YOUR AD HERE
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Never said you claimed I was solely responsible for the jedi wagon. You did however say it was my push to stop the Gman wagon, did you not? Let's go to the Titantron!
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We agree with Jedi that VP is pushing a Jedi wagon to pull apart a possible GMan lynch
VP we pretty much admitted the support isn't there in our post 1819.
Bristep is our willing compromise lynch, maybe emp, but IS makes me weary of that lynch.
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re:Bristep - several people have voiced some kind of support for it. I don't see how you take DDD's point of 'vote people to get momentum for their wagon' to mean 'vote people that you would settle for a lynch on today'. I just don't get it, especially when you say your second scum suspect, IS, bothers you for supporting that wagon. I mean, I'm not being ridiculous here. There is simply no consistency to what you're saying from one post to the next.
Like I said, I see one reason and one reason only for you to be getting on about the Gman lynch like this. If that reason turns out not to be true, expect me to call for your head on a platter.
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I want to hear who Gman targeted and why. I want to hear what jediknight did last night and why.
I think we can firmly say that IS, DDD and probably jediknight do not share alignment with Empking. Other than that, his iso is pretty useless.YOUR AD HERE
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well, considering no one was talking about his vote, it's actually a pretty dumb paragraph. It makes zero sense for Empking buddy to want DDD to force a claim when there was ample support against DDD claiming. Keep pushing that rock though.YOUR AD HERE
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I agree with you KK. Don't forget I was the one questioning SR yesterday! I do have a theory behind their play, but I'm not willing to share it at this time. I would like to see their response to your case before I pass judgement on them today.YOUR AD HERE
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I actually think it is relevant who jedi targetted last night and would go a long way toward figuring out what is going on with the NKs. The fact that Furc was supposedly targeted and yet survived means he was either doc'ed (highly unlikely imo) or Gman was roleblocked (much more likely, regardless of his alignment). I don't forsee a town roleblocker targeting Gman since his kill is something that town wanted to go through. To me, that means that if Gman is town, then a potential scum roleblocker did not stop a second kill last night. That leaves us with the most likely options of town doc or town roleblocker/jailkeeper.
jedi should reveal every day if he's town because he's essentially living on borrowed time as a claimed power role and we don't want to have to guess at his information if he happens to die.YOUR AD HERE
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Well, everyone should still be voting for who they find scummy and not using pumping jedi up as an excuse to leave your votes hanging in the wind. Let's not forget that this game has relatively short deadlines.
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outguess the mod isn't really useful. LL might think RBs are better than Docs. I think we'll just see if he kills someone tonight or not. If Gman doesn't end up being lynched today, we're practically guaranteed to find out if one of them is bullshitting tonight.
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@IS - well, we've had two different scum players flip so far. Additionally, this is a very large game and if there weren't multiple killing roles in play for both town and scum, it would probably take a very long time. That's why I think there are multiple factions.
@Furc - I don't think I need to calm down, nor do I think you need to claim immediately...though I'm not sure why you even bring that up. Why do you think claiming at this point is a good idea?YOUR AD HERE
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I would also assume there are things like doctors, roleblockers (proven!) and jailkeepers in effect as well. We have Furc seemingly crumbing some type of NK immunity (team of SKs?). I find it hard to believe there is only one kill per night in this game.
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Having thought about it, I don't really want the WIFOM surrounding Gman to be plaguing us in late game, so he needs to go today. I think it will also go a long way into assessing the believability of Sottyrulez's scumhunting.YOUR AD HERE
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I think you're missing the point. Your speculation doesn't account for any number of other possibilities. I certainly understand what you're saying and it is one scenario, but it is hardly the forgone conclusion you make it out to be. I think that's scummy.YOUR AD HERE
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@Gobots - when have I ever played with you? And I'm fine with you voting me over bad setup speculation, so keep your threats. Why is it very likely jedi prevented a kill? What insight could you possibly have about who the scum sent to kill? Unless you're scum of course because the reasons you list (number of known roleblockers? really?) make no sense.
@KK - I think confirmation plus getting him to thin the herd at this point are both very good things. There are a lot of lurkers in this game and I'd put money there is scum amongst them. As a town, we obviously can't spend all our time lynch lurkers because there is very little information in that. Vigging one of them is a win-win. Also, if we're lynching out of sottyrulez and Gman, I definitely Gman needs to go first.YOUR AD HERE
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What would you like from me exactly? I don't see how I'm supposed to respond to his claim. I believe he's telling the truth about his role and did block me. I didn't receive any message saying I was blocked if that's what you're looking for.YOUR AD HERE
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jedi - you are so far up your own OMGUS it's ridiculous, hence why I wasn't surprised you targeted me. I figured you would last night, though I was hoping it would be a cop investigation or something so then you'd shut up. I was on you because you were playing a scummy game (still are), but now I can see it's just because that's how you play the game. There are so many connections you are trying to make to call me scummy based upon people who haven't flipped. And then you claim to know how I play on top of all that. I am cool with a wagon forming on me though, because I know it will draw some scum.
Still want Gman dead today.YOUR AD HERE
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It is fucking important because if you die that info would go with you. That's why it was important. I figured it was me you targeted, and had it been a copping or something I wanted you to clear me. Even though you wasted a night action, it's still better that it's out there so there is nothing scum can WIFOM from hidden results.
In terms of my iso being nothing except directing wagons...wtf do you think this game is about? If you're town, you lynch people you think are scummy. That's my job and that's what I'll continue to do. This is what I mean by your OMGUS because you don't even make sense in this shit you try to push and then wonder why I would think you look scummy.YOUR AD HERE
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I think there are lots of people who make better vig targets than I do, personally. For instance:
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Perhaps even sottyrulez depending on what Gman flips. I don't really see what jedi is doing as a conscious effort to derail the Gman wagon so much as he is tunneled on me and incorrectly believes he stopped a scum kill last night. I do feel like you're trying to direct the vig subtly toward me though, hence why I asked if you thought I should be killed. I'll ask again since you didn't answer. Yes or no, do you think I should be vigged?YOUR AD HERE
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yeah, that makes total sense. So the investigation immune scum godfather would perform the NK on a night he was likely to be targeted by a known power role. Also, you still haven't answered my question. Third times the charm, you think I should be vigged tonight?YOUR AD HERE
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I agree it doesn't mean anything happened. What I am saying is that your implication of me being inv. immune godfather is ridiculous considering I was about 90 percent sure jedi was going to target me last night with whatever power he got. Additionally, investigation role doesn't just mean cop. trackers and etc. fall in this category as well. Anyhow, this is all just dumb wifom.YOUR AD HERE
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What do you expect me to say, jedi? I didn't submit a NK and I'm not scum. You wasted your night action because you're too caught up on OMGUS to read alignment. Had your block been placed somewhere useful, it could have revealed some kind of information in the long run once more power roles and their night actions are known.
And no, there isn't a reason for your tunneling. I have been on your case because you were legitimately scummy. I don't need to write a book to pressure you. If you want to play this text book mafia shit from 5 years ago, I suggest you round up glork, pj and other people that enjoy that style. I'm much more succinct and effective than that.YOUR AD HERE
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They work together just fine. It is worthwhile to have the result even if he stupidly targeted me. There was still a possibility he did not, yeah? Since jedi is the only fully claimed PR atm, I'm sure his life expectancy isn't great. Getting a result on the table before he dies and leaves it to WIFOM is important.YOUR AD HERE
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Diversion from what? Because I'm being as obv. town as I can be and don't want to be shot because I'm actually contributing to the game? Why shouldn't you be vigged do you feel? It's not like your presence is helpful at all this game. I think thinning the lurker herd before we approach lylo is a very good choice. I guarantee there is scum in that group.YOUR AD HERE
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I'm not saying we should nail down who jedi is shooting. I am saying if it's me, which I think is what he's likely to do, I would like to know.
As far as Gman goes, I'm not worried about his lynch. I want him dead. However, there are things we could talk about and people we should force to post before that happens. Clear?YOUR AD HERE
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nice to see you brosius after several days of lurking and posting in other threads. Care to give actual reads? Be involved in any useful way?
@jedi - I don't really care about getting into ego battles with you. Nor have I been trying to paint you as an idiot. I do think you've played a scummy game, but that doesn't make you an idiot. I suggest there are actually scummy people you could be shooting and you take a second to step outside of your own perspective in this game to see what I'm saying, but it's up to you in the end. whatever.YOUR AD HERE
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