Road to Wrestlemania: Game over - WWF wins - BANG BANG!

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Royal Rumble?! More like Royal FUMBLE! WOOoooooooooo!

I really want to make a Bushwacker out of someone...but I guess we could do it more calculated. I don't really know who stinks at endgame. Time to go to work, I'll double clothesline someone before this day is out.

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Chesskid's plan was odd. How would voting a champ produce more townreads than all the interaction happening now?

Nero, what did you mean by hero/face mechanic? Why did you ask about delayed flips?

Baby is right to look for patterns in this. A small voting block could have stronger ties.

Vp is balls out!

I love vendettas to the death, IS.

Bella, why do you agree with "DDD's plan?"

Thor, why didn't you help trim the fat in the post you made about trimming fat?

Scott brosius, why pick lowell out as a lurker when others hadn't posted more than him?

Respect to KK for seeing the other POV. But kk- how would a champ vig claim, or mason, be confirmed?

I think there are 17 moves uncast right now. Kise, kk, lowel, gman, primatw, tend, fur, me, and jk.

I dunno my list now. Don't want to lose my votes so...

Trip to the bat cave: Thor
Double clothesline: Thor

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Lol at all the quotes from the jobronies.

Thor, i guess if you think they are fat then i see what you were doing. I just thought it was strange that you said you liked the plan but didmt put moves on the people vp had them on.

Scott, fair enough

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outlaw choke toll he passes out: Internet stranger

. For wanting it.

battering ram, using IS's body: VPB

for dressing that way (because i could. I still like his plan tho)

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Kise, how could you confirm the mason?

Gman, why are you calling The quote-slinging jobronie the Repo Man?

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Feather boas for EVERYONE.

Thor, I like the idea of people making lists and getting rid of people from the bottom (of the list) up. VP and IS were at 1 HP left both, and I needed, really needed, to knock two people out at the same time.

Nero, can you explain your 193 to me? You seemed to be saying that we can't learn form this and defending Scott? Am I missing something?

Baby, are you calling out Vez for lying?

I might be ok with KK having the belt.

First, though...

Throwouts:
Scott
Primate
Fur
Baby
Hoppster
Jedi Knight (is NOT paying attention)

Throwerouters:
Kise
KK
Snake

Moar laeter, pencil necks.

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^^ yeah yeah, this.

Baby, I was referring to that which you said in post 200.

Jediknight, is that a serious question? I've thrown out more people than minutes you've spent reading the game. I will grant you that there are other people doing even less than you. I have no problem with fast and furious. As to your last sentence, is that, perhaps, what you do best?

KK: I don't really understand why you think my action was SKish. If it ~killed~ them then I guess I could see. But for this situation I don't. I was so happy to see the flavor, too. I could close my eyes and see my dude smashing those two suckers down to the concrete. Doubtless my wrestler made some theatrical apology as JR said "well, it IS every man for himself."

Dropkick FROM THE TOP ROPE: SnakePliskin

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^^I agree

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I still have until 2 my time to make my second move. I'm waiting to see what transpires. It's called being a tactician. Look it up.

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reverse frogsplash: Hoppster

Baby, alrighty.

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Too many people at full hitpoints.

airplane spin: kise
Green poison spit: gman

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Kka..ka..kadabraaaaaaa....sob...vomit

knee buster: primate
Sweep the led: primate

Id like

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vasu and trendal next!

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You can still be a throwerouter with a modest ammount of life left. Im just helping you stay honest. Thank me.

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I want to win the belt, kise. I want it. If it's not me, then i have a shortlist.

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Jason; I think I've been going at this fairly logically. It's not like I've just been voting for random dudes.

I disagree with Primate. As far as I'm concerned, we haven't broken into chaos or strayed from the original plan that much. It's not like it's too late to calm down and reevaluate, as y'all are doing right above me here.

being selfish, well, I guess. I'm all about having the belt, somewhat for bragging rights. However, also I'm in the "don't out the PRs" camp, so without taking roles into consideration, I do think I'm the best man for the job. I think the low life/controlled throwouts is the

most boring

safest way to go.

As for that cowardly remark earlier, hey, I knew I would draw attention by knocking dudes out - I think there are far more cowardly ways to do this.

I'd continue to stack votes on Trendal and Vasu. Let me have my last two votes tomorrow morning if nothing else.

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I feel like such a tool.
Where were baby spice and hopster yesterday?

superman punch: trendal
Superman punch: trendal[\b]

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suplex: trendell
Superplex: trendell

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Maybe the part your missing is that it's going to be faster this way?

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See you qt the crossroaaaadsss woosh

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458 is diiiiistancing.

Im worried that baby isnt reading the game. I mean...duh but there it is.

Ive gone back and forth on kk...

I think right now im forth.

support: ddd

I really dont understand those who say this part is pointless. I think its a pretty interesting phase of the game. I am glad that it wont last a year tho.

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Sorry. I meant 456. Wierd.
Primate i think it was about the time she asked "what plan?" that i really started to suspect. I think that was around post 468.

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The remaining superstars have my permission to

go nuts

. Whoever doesn't try to out and out win at this point is a puuuussssyyyy!

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Mod, sorry, but you forgot the flavor where kise wins tha

ladies

championship belt for throwing his title shot.

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Id be happiest lynching is.

Bs isnt giving thengame attention, but thats not scummy.

Sorry for the lameshit post.

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I have had a busy weekend myself.

A brief read since the rumble has given me a couple talking points:

I don't really dig the idea that voting someone because they are an "easy target" is a strong scumtell. I think people are usually easy targets when they make themselves that way through scummy or anti-town behavior.

Primates love-post about IS leaves me scratching my head. Ok, I don't know the meta but...really? Has he played so well here that he's above suspicion? That doesn't even make sense.

Chesskid, well, there's always a chesskid, isn't there? On some level, I wish I could play the game that way. Personally, I'm all for getting rid of them first, but I know that's not always the best thing to do.

So let's go with:

dropkick: Primate

for slurping all over IS so hard.

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Weeeheellllll...

I don't get a huge scumvibe from hoppster, as some seem to. Nor do i get one from thor. I think promoting conversation is good.

IS continues to grate on me. I find myself agreeing with nero about the manipulation in IS posts.

Thor, why does hoppsters playrecord give him an alibi in your opinion?

Bri, seems like theres more to comment on here than just a swing-in vote. You reading?

Baby, why did you self vote in the rumble if you think self voting is suspicious?

Vp, did jason's answer satisfy you?

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There are a whole lot of promises going on here.

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Back-Brain-Kick: Trendall

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Vezo: I voted with KK because I agreed with him about Trendall. I thought that would have been very clear.

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I didn't agree that trendall was scummy. It wasn't even proposed that he is scummy.

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How could i have a read on him?

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Please go through at least the last 5-10 pages and tell us what you think about the various things that are being discussed.

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Sorry guys and gals, i know ive been slacking. It's been a nuts week, again.

Trendal's interpretation of why i was voting for him is correct. ive still got a neutral read on him. I think his posts have been strange and mildly scummy, but i can see town saying the same things. Since he doesnt seem interested or capable of really getting into issues other than those that involve himself, i dont think hed be a bad lynch. If today ends with him swinging, thats fine.

However, before anyone swings, i think we should put pressure on bella. So, if you will please join me;

release trendall
Arm bar: bella

Post or die.

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Baby: what fence am i sitting on? Why is it ok to pressure trendal but not bella? Redirect what, exactly?

Sotty: please iso bella and then myself, and tell me if you still want to call this a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Gman: do you really see no point to sueezing something out of bella before a night? We have 6 days until the deadlime. Is that really too close for comfort?

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Vp: i didnt intend to continue pushing the bella wagon, i was just trying to respond to the questions about my previous post.

Ddd et all: i dont agree that 6 days is a short time. I didnt see anything wrong with trying to get something out of bella before finishing trendal off.

Baby; i think i was clear about trendal. My origional vote was for pressure. I dont think he has crackd to reveal a scummy center under that pressure, but he hasnt tried to play the game either. So im happy to lynch the non entity. But before we do that, theres still a big question mark in bella. Why cant we force her to do something just like we did with trendal?

Even if you think trendal is 100 percent scum, why wouldnt you want to put pressure on the worst poster in the game? How is that a waste of time?

sotty: but at least you have changed your tone to no longer imply we have given equal contribution to the game. Ive got a few thoughts on the two wagons, but let me compose myself first.

Im glad she asked for replacement and ill vote somewhere else later today.

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Thor; God your post made me angry. How is trying to compose myself and contribute in an effective way bad play? Would you prefer that I post like chesskid: cluttering up the game with random meaningless garbage posts?

I'm assuming that you people mean that ANY votes on someone constitutes a wagon. HEre you go:

Trendall - not present. Could be lynched for the benefit of the game. No clue if he is town or not.

Thor665 - accused of encouraging discussion and voted by a person who give me a bad vibe (IS). I have no interest in seeing him lynched.

Scott Brosius - not super vocal but not ignoring the game either. The following of the trendall wagon because his own pet wagon "is not going to take off today" is slightly anti-town. I won't cry blood if he's lynched, and I'd hammer to prevent no-lynch, but I'm meh.

GMan - He flip-flopped on the Trendal wagon (see ISO 15 and 17) and I don't see any clear accusations about the "other people I'd like lynched." GMan, care to elaborate?

Internet Stranger - apparently IS has some super-meta that let's him post pointed accusations purely based on gut without reprisal or challenge. Fine, who...

Gobots is in the middle of talking smack about Internet Stranger when he is poleaxed by a running big boot to the face!

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Repeated text that will soon be deleted:
"GMan - He flip-flopped on the Trendal wagon (see ISO 15 and 17) and I don't see any clear accusations about the "other people I'd like lynched." GMan, care to elaborate?

Internet Stranger - apparently IS has some super-meta that let's him post pointed accusations purely based on gut without reprisal or challenge. Fine, who am I to argue?

Baby Spice - Still not really paying attention as far as I can tell. Seems to willfully misread things. Irritating, but again seems meta-laden so whatever.

Furcolow - just posted a lot of hate my way. Why can't you stand reading my posts? Are you saying that Bella was/is not the worst poster in the game? Please support your answer."

Scott: You didn't tell us who you would rather have lynched, I wanted to see what you had to say. You just wishy-washed. You started to take a stand then caved. And I still don't agree that 6 DAYS is too short a time to look at different ideas!

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Gman: Sorry, that last part of 1027 is obviously a bit muddled. GMan is the one who still needs to talk about his other lynch preferences. Scott, though, the rest still applies to you. I see your point about helping the majority achieve it's goals, but I'd prefer to see adherence to your own beliefs.

Thor; I'm sorry for missquoting you. I meant to convey "anti-town or scummy" instead of "bad play." I try to be chillax but then I pop. It's a good summation of my personality today. I get what you are saying about planning = planning to hide. But I just wanted time to put my thoughts into some sense of coherence. Re Buddying: Again, I see where you are going. However, I spoke against your wagon before you said anything against me. I speak against it again now for the reasons I stated.

someone post.

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Maybe I'm just out of sync with the rest of you, but to me 6 more days is enough to "do" other things before settling on a lynch. Can bella, now bella's slot, really get away with posting nothing for the entire day and go into a night?0 Couldn't the pressure votes go, at least temporarily, to Bella to make it say something before the end of day 1? Maybe it is too late now, since replacements take a while. I could buy that. But I still stand by my original idea of pressuring her. Does the fact that she was unwilling to say

anything

before asking for a replacement strike anyone else as scummy?

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Jason,

You said that we should excuse Bella because she is quiet in a lot of games lately. She did indicate that the reason she wanted replacing is that she finds it difficult to keep up with her other games because of the size and rules of this one. I don't think she's lying about that. I believer her reason for wanting to be replaced. However, my point is that a town-sided player would make

some

effort to participate before bowing out while a scum-sided player would try to duck out as silently as possible. Don't you agree with that?

You said that I was asking if anyone else finds it scummy. I said "else" because I wanted to show that I, personally found it scummy. I am sure, for me, that it is scummy, and I believe I said so quite clearly.

You said that I am not voting for her. However, I am voting for her, and have been, since I started talking about her.

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Reckless at best. Waiting for a claim would, clearly, have been better.

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Damn, spanish language announcers table and everything. That was awesome. I've just been able to skim so far. Ill try to post tomorrow or monday.

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Guys, I am so sorry, but I'm getting raped by life.

I'll try my best to decentpost tomorrow.

I know, I'm gay. I'm sorry.

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Hi. The last 5 pages were kind of a blur, but here is what I have (at least 2 posts):

Speculation

Certainly, at least one kill was prevented last night.
Character names were independent of alignment in the last WWF game. Perhaps that is not the case in this one. Otherwise, why hometown cop?
I’m torn on DDD name-claiming. I don’t actually see the benefit of a DDD name claim, but if that’s true; again, WHY a hometown cop?

For now, I believe…

…neither Kise nor Vez are gambitting on day 2.
…DDD thinks he’s doing right by not claiming.
… I’m strangely OK with IS. I’m really getting VI vibes from him. I know he’s back peddled, and contradicted himself, but I’m not reading it as scum.

Funny “Quotes”

Vezo: “Jesse Ventura is an actor, not a wrestler.”
Scott: “I fail to see how my reads are original.”
Furc: “Don’t missrep my playstyle!”
Bristep: “ I’m going to go with chesskids gut.”
Someone post!

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Leads

Primate: Still slobbering all over IS. At one point said, “I don’t know the flavor, here’s all me flavor speculation, but I don’t know the flavor.”
Bristep played the Newb card.
Furcolow gives me bad vibes! One post stands out as particularly ridiculous to me, though. Look at 1387 in regards to Kise.
Gman 1341 said (to paraphrase) “ It wasn’t OMGUS, I was just voting him because he was voting for me!“ I don’t agree with VP about this one; I think this is scum wriggling.
Hoppster is still talking about day 1.
Baby doesn’t think the hammer was scummy.
Some players do seem to come out very soon after being called out…and one of them denied lurking.

Shoutouts and Questions

VP, I know you were asking KK, but I wanna share that I was a dayvig once, it was everything I’d ever dreamed it could be.
Primate, You said something about a role that could only target males. What did you mean by that?
Kise, do you still think IS targeted you?
Oh meta gods, please tell unto me the answer to this question: Who would target Kise?
Someone post!

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Nero, I’ll stop if you promise to do so as well…

Scumtinuum from to

Vezokpiraka, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Kise

Kublai Khan, VP Baltar, VasudeVa

Internet Stranger, chesskid3

Sottyrulez

Nero Cain, Lowell

Scott Brosius, Baby Spice, Erratus Apathos, Hoppster, AurorusVox, jediknight, EmpkingBella

bristep123, Primate, GMan, Furcolow

Avalanche: Gman

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Nero, I was just being a smartass. Which reads?

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Vasu, 1479, Are you saying that you think Gman is not contributing as much as he could be? Do you mean that you think he is somehow holding back?

Bristep, RE: 1480, Don't think we didn't notice what a helpful little townie you were in this post.

Nero, RE: 1484 I think you're reaching.

Emp, Why do you think it is strange that sotty has been on the two biggest wagons rather than the smaller ones?

Vezo, That was a very cautious vote move you did there. Why so tender about it?

Hoppster: Because there were more interesting, current, things to talk about at that moment.

About Gman: I'm suspicious of the "MY META'S LIKE THIS" defense. I think the "I'm not OMGUSING YOUR OMGUSING" is also suspicious. I'd need to see more from him before I'd move my vote.

About Kise: I was pondering the innateness of his power, too. It's vague, yes. I'm kinda with DDD though. At least we know ~something~ happened there. If Kise wants to clarify...ok.

I guess I need to reread the EA/AV/EVOO dabacle.

I will ISO Jedi and Furc

I probably will not reread the NC/IS tunneling.

Post: Kise, Primate, Bayyybeee

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A prod? Jesus, can't a guy fall asleep for a day and a half without people jumping all over him?

No, seriously, sorry again. I have been reading but my term just ended and I haven't found the few minutes to say anything worth while.

Empking is looking scummier day by day.

Even though Gman's input has improved a bit, I still prefer Gman over IS.

Furc and Bri are next.

Gman's at -2? Can we get a claim? (assuming IS will hammer without waiting).

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I suppose Gman is verifiable based on hometown cop? maybe? kinda? I second the flavor question.

At any rate; it looks like he's trying to play the game for the moment soooo I'm gunna move my vote.

I still don't feel IS, but I will wagon him Wednesday if this...

cobra clutch: Bristep

doesn't take off.

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Sorry, I can't believe how many prods ive gotten this game.

I will review my vote and the game and revisit tonight.

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Hrmmmmm. So Emp accounts for night 1s lack of multiple deaths. Jedi becomes rb and prevents another kill (AssumPtions make asses but there it is) obviously no one protected furc and since hes claiming some reprisal role, he didnt survive on his own. I want to lynch jedi's target.

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Explain why. With all respect, I think your missing the point.

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If jedi comes back saying he blocked you im reeeaaalllyyyy gunna vote you hard. Maybe its because we havent played together in like forever but im getting this strange vibe coming in. Gut mostly but meh.

You are right that there are many possibilities, but i think its very likely that jedi prevented a kill, given the number of known roleblockers, the number of kills, and the relationship between furcs targetability, his softclaim, and gman's (i believe truthful) claim that he targeted furc.

Jedi has already stated that he will tell us after a while, so i dont think what im askin for is that out of this world.

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I'm assuming emp RBd a kill night 1, when he was bella. I'm assuming that because I would have expected more than one kill in a large. Night 2 we had a new roleblocker (2 known roleblockers then) in JK. One roleblocker is dead, and only one kill again makes me think that JK targeted a killing role. It's the simplest explanation for why we only had 1 kill last night.

What is a hider?

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Kise clearly intimated that he was not able to be killed as a passive ability, not that he was roleblocked.

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Armbar as hard as possible: VPB

I called that. Both of those reveals, actually.

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Gman, your were a bigger suspect when you weren't trying to play.

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VP: wifom, gigantic ammounts of it.
IS: Answer the question. Do you think it's likely that Jedi blocked a killing role?

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bored. let's see how the cadillac holds up.

Vote: GMan

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Blarg. Well, that'll have to be fixed later.

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back brain kick gman

Im so back and forth on vp.

Other vig targets include baby, brosius, primate.

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Huh. Vla till monday

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God damn it VPB.

Did we know who roleblocked Gman? I'm not able to reread and find it right now.

I'm tag-team partners with whoever.

: Internet Stranger ("Above suspicion forever for awesome meta reasons")
: KK, DDD (scum with VPB), jediknight
: Kise, AurorusVox
Vig Bait Lowell, Scott Brosius, VasudeVa, Baby Spice, Erratus Apathos
Primate (scum with bristep123), bristep123 (scum with Primate)
chesskid3 (Andre the bear-hugging Giant), Sottyrulez (Liar)

eye-rake: Sottyrulez

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Jedi: Furc must have been copy/pasted out of existence. I think I believe his claim and he's about a

I don't know why, but I keep forgetting that Gman was scum. It occurred to me last night as I was falling asleep. I retract my question about the roleblock; it doesn't matter at all.

I'm a bit shocked, honestly, that anyone would reveal their PR to save

chesskid

from suspicion. I would say scum caught if it wasn't for that bizarre bit of motivation. AV is massive vig bait now.

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stop supporting DDD for a second. I have something to say but I have to finish dinner first.

gimmie an hour.

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Erratus...why do you think there are four man scumgroups? I was trying to put pressure on bella and took heat for it. I wasn't as interested in empking.

Primate and I were tag-team partners last night. He was very gung-ho about DDD keeping the belt (as very convincing). We worked out a system that basically treated the tag-team belts as a jailer:

1. DDD has one belt, the *jailed* has the other.
2. the jailed claims to DDD
3. DDD directs their night action, if any.
4. The jailed gives their belt to DDD, and DDD gives his belt to the next *jailed*
5. anyone who didn't follow the rules would be lynched.

Primate gave his belt to DDD and I gave mine to Scott Brosious. I dunno where it is now.

After seeing Primate's flip, I want to:

Support: Erratus Apathos

and he can do the tag-belt thing

German Suplex 15 times: Jedi

Neckbreakers (plural): Lowel

Primate slurpped incredibly hard all over IS for so long, so I think IS is DX, too.

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Tracker is the absolute first choice for unnightkillable.

We shouldn't put all our trust in that bit of flavor speculation, especially since flipped scum was so hot for it.

Vig is the best choice for JK, there is no need for discussion.

Thanks for the name calling.

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Ddd Doesnt get the belt. Im really with is on this one. Ddd couldnt be acting slimier if he tried.

Ea ok i guess that makes sense.

Ea action was confirmed by av, ddd.

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That actually makes me feel much better about DDD.

support: Jedi

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That unvote wont count.

legdrop:is

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Your unvote didnt count he was at l-1 until i left the wagon

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Now hes at 4.

king korn karn chop: lowell

New hes at 5

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At a glance i see nothing wrong with that plan.

I was going to work up a list of conclusions based on flips and speculation, and ill do that when im less blasted, but now im thinking to keep my predictions to myself until after the claims.

Unless anyone raises a valid reason not to, ill claim tomorrow morning.

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I'll get my analysis of stuff out tonight.

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checking in from work.

lynch AV

but please shoot the hell out of furcolow

chairshot: Jediknight
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chairshot: Jediknight

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Ugh, these turned out a little crap, but I'll post them as promised. These are my best guesses.

Debonair Danny DiPietro (WWF JOBBER)
Erratus Apathos (WWF TRACKER)

Internet Stranger (WWF AVENGER <I'd put a little money on it.>)
chesskid3 (WWF AVENGER or HHH)

Furcolow (MDC 4th )
AurorusVox (MDC FRAMER <GREAT call EA>)

Baby Spice (HHH or rock and sock?)
jediknight (WWF or Independant ROCK AND SOCK?!)

Moonwalk Chokeslam: AV

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The Game.

Oh; NO ONE has to confirm or deny anything I said in 2539. I'm just sharing my thoughts, not trying to get any public reactions.

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Oh Chess

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HHH is a member of DX who hits people/stuff with sledghammers. I'm saying you might be him and be lying about being Andre.