In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)
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You do realize that I claimed this before your track result, so I preemptively came in to sink my final gambit. If you are going to push for this lynch me, kill the noise and focus on Equinox's case about Courvis/FF/Farside.Unvote Vote, DTMaster.
If you had a real result, people would go LOLOLO KILL THE TRACKER IN A GIANT BALL OF FIRE BECAUSE DTM COUNTER CLAIMED INFOS. LETS TEST THIS VIA BLOOD ON DTM. I did not want that. Thus since my major town reads produced this information, I thought there is more behind the scenes.-
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NS: you never weigh in on my cases. Are you still that mad about my gambit? You also called me town pre-tracker claim. It's post tracker is fake claim.
@LB
The scenerios in Objection Mafia are different from herebecause in order for me to clear nopoint I would need to sink my gambit. I cleared Nopoint because Hito successfully shot. In objection mafia I was purely trying to attract the NK. Also a key part of that game was: If I didn't get lynched town would have been able to win by catching Gammagooey since I expressed suspicion in the last leg of that day.
My gambit has served its purpose. Have I not claimed, a nopoint wagon would have been viable. I don't want that. I want him to live since I think hes confirmed.-
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FF: The issue I have in this is this time line:
Day 2 is when both of you confirmed to each other as likely town candidates due to the level of posting in your QT. You established this in the later stages of Day two leading up to the AGM wagons when I attacked Courvis.
But before all of that Farside claimed that you tried to ask about the roles. Which lead you to clarify that you did ask for claims, but only to the others in the early-mid day 2. In order for you to obtain Courvis' claim, he would have needed to claim to you sometime D1/N1/Early day 2. Except you didn't establish that strong read on Courvis and Courvis didn't establish the strong read on you until then. In fact, while you may have had a town read from TMH, Courvis wouldn't trust you yet until the analysis post in late-day2 post all the claims.
Also with Courvis' latest post, he hints that he might be open to FishyFishy scum because my read on you as scum-god is telling. Or he's pushing for the NS-scum/DTM-scum angle but he never said. You can imply both:
I think to verify this, we should check the times when Courvis called FF town and cross check to the Farside quote. If Courvis claimed a strong town read on FF before then without good reason, I have a suspicion that FF/Courvis just slipped:Courvis wrote:But setting that aside: At this point, to argue DGB is scum isn't that likely merely since DGB-Hito combo is killing scum. To claim NS is 'clear', you are claiming Fishy is scum? I don't see this as that likely but it speaks to something else *later.
FF - Courvis scum team obviously claimed to each other.
But Courvis-scum wants to distance from his god.
FF scum already claimed linkage and claiming.
Courvis gets story wrong in attempt to distance from FF god.
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Then lynch me now. I'm L-2 DGB. Your vote and LB's vote both people who are favoured in this wagon are not on my wagon. Like I said, my existence plays to your scum argument because you're using the same logic that I used to clear Nopoint, in that Hito was able to vig and Tajo was killed. In fact Tajo's death could be used to confirm/deny me depending on what side of the DTM alignment you favour.
So test in blood. Shoot at night as you always have. We're 2/2 in vig shots.-
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I called LB - Town for staying on the Feysal lynch even though DGB berated them for not switching to Nopoint/AGM. The reason was LB was more concerned about finding scum and felt that both AGM and Nopoint were town and in-viable lynches. DGB wanted a wagon, or at least a vote away from AGM. Voting for voting is poor, thus LB was town for sticking to her guns.
I said that Tajo is vig bait, and would most likely be alive today since he's an easy mislynch.
Hito was going to die because he's the vig. I called the Tajo thing an obv setup. Then I said that if Hito doesn't die this looks bad against Andruis and DGB because it's easier for DGB/Andruis team to direct the vig. I was planning on claiming that I was going to hide behind Andruis.
I said that if my Andruis/DGB theory holds up, DGB said this:
Hinting she believed in my claim. This was a slip, since she was the one who attacked my claim earlier. I soft claimed a slip that DGB didn't pick up and was suspicious since: I claimed Nopoint was acting like he was unconfirmed and DGB didn't attack me on that.DGB wrote:BECAUSE NOPOINT IS TOWN
I REFUSE A NOPOINT LYNCH
PERIOD
NOW CAN WE LYNCH SCUM???
At that time I said I like Fishy Fish town because his dillemia argument was really good. But I couldn't get my finger off Courvis. I also said that Tajo called me his top town spot right after we setup the whole Hide thing. Thus Tajo could be buddying me. I expressed that I needed to reread this.-
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Note: The reason why my DGB/Andruis is my crazy wild card theory is that I can find support for the Vig directing argument in posts like this on Day 1.
I mean if Spyrex is so awesome in the QT, why allow Andruis the leeway to push for his non commiting tactics in thread. It parallels the Andruis/DGB relationship (post lots in QT not in thread). Hence super wild card. That's what I lead into the night. But I prefer looking at the FF angle since it makes sense in light of Feysal's death.DrippingGoofball wrote:populartajo wrote:scum
farside
DRK
Spyrex
Feysal
VOTE: DRK.Im pretty sure on this, lets lynch him.
in regard to gods, NS is being stupid but feels townish, Fishy is kinda neutral, DGB would be my pick for scumgod.Farside scum???
Going after DRK?????
And I'm getting a increasing SpyreX town vibe, and Feysal has got to be neutral at best.
NS is townish? I bet Fishy is your scumgod, that's why you have him at neutral. And I'm scum over what ought to be a town tell?
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BTW DGB. You should really reread OOT. I know self meta-WIFOM. Your arguement on nopoint makes no sense as my buddy.
Also Invite 7.
Mafia of Order
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Scum-DTM wouldn't make his buddy so obvious. Scum-DTM would actually tell his buddy to bus the living day lights out of him. :p "attaches a nail to his coffin"-
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BTW: Your arguments don't fit with my posts. It's not consistent with what I did both in thread, and claimed from QT. Take a reread. Choose to wait from NS. If you lynch me, then Nopoint is cleared since scum wanted to kill me. Scum believed in my claim.
Your vig test argument conflicts with the NS QT discussion.
Any attacks based on Spyrex conflicts with your argument on Feysal.
I even argued that Spyrex and Scum didn't know who each other are and brought in meta games.-
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Oh I missed these questionsnopointinactingup wrote:Before I move on to my conclusion, I would like DTM to answer the following questions:
1> Why did you gambitted claim Hider? How did you imagine it would help town at the time that you claimed?
2> What makes you think Scum would assume you will hide at the person you said in-thread that you will hide with?
3> For what purpose did you admit to not being hider?
1. I wanted to try and direct the scum kills. I also wanted to fish out scum in my QT based on the information I gave to them. Recall what I explained in my D1 Hider claim.
2. I wouldn't be able to with 100% accuracy. However I did expect scum to consider it, and a flip of one of those players would hint that there was a leak involved. I'm offering scum the chance to get 2 for 1 in their NK. Even more so if I'm on to them. However if none of the flips matched my target list, then I'd still know scum was listening in to me. Under random chance, they wouldn't just so happen to ignore all of the players on my list. I probably have scum in my target list then.
3. To clear you Nopoint.-
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I refuse to lynch Nopoint. I'm awaiting words from the Courvis angle, the Benmage angle (once he gets a computer), the DGB. The temple gets my blood or Courvis blood. Nopoint is off the table completely. Bring hito and L-1 me up. Pending questions will come into play. DGB can assign double votes/BP tomorrow and I expect questions to be answered.-
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Self DTM argument: Since DTM self voted after AGM was proven town for being suicidal, that's obviously meaning that I'm mirroring both Benmage and AGM because I'm being self destructive publicly. It's due to AGM's flip and Benmage's lack of the wagon that I self voted in hopes to clear my name and my buddy and get Fishy fish's people lynched. "adds a log to the pyre"-
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Do it do it. Frustrate the Equinox. Let my tribute in blood be payed. Let it rope the Farside's potential slip that I won't be around to analyze.
@Farside
It's because he chose not to ask you for a claim which is weird. However I favour the Courvis/FF team over the FF/Farside team. I've been doing POE since I clear LB, Equinox, and the rest of the reward team as town. Benmage has been an enigma to me, however since my original case was debunked validly I can't really put finger on him.-
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Hito, that argument is valid because I'm 3rd in line. It's called LOL I HERPD DERPED TAJO by following in his footsteps. Also I called you cruel because of the hyperactivity and I just want the hammer nao :<.
Hito, I would shoot the people who I called scum already. One of Farside/Courvis/Benmage. Preferred Courvis, then Farside, then Benmage in that order.
Farside, only role I could think of that would explain a track. I have town reads in DGB's area, thus I believe that a track claim is possible. How I would envision it:
Tracker and Vig in Andruis/Nopoint
Hito is VT-
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Now you have my full reads, frustrate the Equinox and vote me. I'm obviously not being helpful to my case by frustrating Equinox since we both share the same sentiments. You have my reads going into N3. You have my "buddys" in Nopoint, LB, NS, Equinox. La la la, there you go DTM's wagon/reads all full of juicy information.-
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