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Bella: I don't think the mod really cares if you make up a move as long as it's bold and conceivably could be a move I think it's going to count. So it's really just an attempt to add to the flavor on my part. Also, you should've voted Vezo, it makes sense to clear the players completely off the deck before moving onto the next ones as to minimize the number of moves they can use. So we should be dogpiling individuals one at a time to get rid of them and then moving onto the next one; not spreading our votes out.-
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Q: Doesn't the vig plan then likely destroy their use as a vig since if we're assuming there's a vig it's far from unreasonable to assume there's also a roleblocker. I think it's been established in MD that a vig is one of the most powerful and useful town roles so I'd hate to lose that if we have one. Now it'd be nice to create a confirmed town out of that; there'd be little reason for scum to claim vig because then they have to either use the scum kill on a town choice target or increasingly claim to be roleblocked etc but it's not impossible to see it happening. Also, that ignores the possibility of a SK taking up the mantle and pretending to be a vig and really wrecking our shit; too many variables for me to like the plan.-
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VPB, I think KK is likely town as well; he's at least thinking about how to help the town even if he was wrong about the specifics.-
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Been judging at a debate tournament since 8 AM; blech. Rather annoyed with those who can't or won't take direction and insist on screwing around. I know it's not as fun as a wild ruckus but it's far more useful.
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I should note that I also agree with VPB about the WIFOM argument as well and I think everyone that is ok with not being WHC should be obliged and eliminated promptly once we finish off the dregs. Because anyone who doesn't think they should be WHC has better information to make that decision that we do either regarding their skill or role or other considerations and they're opinion should be respected or they're lying and want to be WHC but are just trying to pull a double move in which case they're not fit to be WHC.-
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Unless Kise's moves don't count for some reason you're hitting redundant moves there sotty/zach. Start the next chain. Also it appears that Gobots has decided to take a cowardly approach and only hit those who can't hit back; why else would he burn just one move finishing Snake instead of doing that and working on another target?-
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There has to be a balance between speed and the optimum outcome; but whichever mode is preferred it still requires us to take people down to one or two moves. So I propose we make this the first test of the idea. Someone else hits GoBots with two moves to send him down to one move from elimination; from there his sole responsibility will be move to everyone's least favorite lurker, Trendall, down to two moves. As long as he does that we keep him around; if he chooses to disregard that order he gets tossed. Agreed?-
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@GMan, you like 334 but you don't implement the plan in it? I clearly stated that Gobots should be sent to one move from elimination (which your moves would've done) and then he should be voting Trendall not that others should be voting Trendall which runs counter to the idea, presented.
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@SottyZach I think that's more the plan for those who aren't legitimate contenders. Basically everyone from Hoppster on up should be moved to one move away from elimination and everyone from you through KK should be taken down to around 3-5 moves away from elimination.
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Hoppster, there are several reasons the plan works. First, we've already gotten rid of the true VIs who would cause problems just for the sake of causing problems. Next, I think it's your criticism that's short-sighted because right now unless you're tossing those at E-1 then you're basically working under the plan; unless you're eliminating people at this point or systemically trying to down a contender you're working within the plan. Even the E-1s have an incentive to work within the plan because if they do that means they may not be champion but they get a voice at the table to help decide who is; additionally if they really want to be champion then some hope is better than none. What if someone no-shows one day with their moves; that could allow an E-1 to grab the title. Last but not least is that this part of the game isn't separate from the rest; if someone wants to cause problems then they can but not only will it cost them the aforementioned things, but will also irritate the rest of the town and thus put them and their side in a worse position once we advance beyond the RR.-
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Well I guess I'll come out and say it instead of pussyfooting around the issue. Unless I'm mistaken Kise, Sotty/Zach, and KK all have explicitly said I'd make a fine champion; GMan has acquiesced to not being champion and...
Avalanche Brainbuster: Erratus Apathos
Who cares what EA thinks now? The VIs hate the idea of me being champion and I'll say it, I should be champion.
So let's get this done; today/tonight.
Whoever is next around of Sotty/Zach or KK pitches GMan out
Then Sotty/Zach or KK pitches the other one of the pair and Kise
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Sigh, looks like we'll have to wait till tomorrow to resolve this.
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Well if 2 AM eastern is the standard for a reset then I guess I'll go ahead and make chesskid very sad.
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The Champ is Here
Do not like that she was participating without reading the thread fully and then tried to cover by saying she disagreed with the plan anyways. If she disagreed with the plan she could've/should've said so instead of using that as a post-hoc justification for her behavior.
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Baltar did a good job in busting chesskid’s chops early and getting an easy and obvious town read from him.
I like AV’s vote and reasons on Baby Spice other than the point about self elimination which I feel is null since player’s would know that such behavior would come back to haunt them.
I don’t care for Thor’s attempts to characterize Baby Spice as a VI, she replaced into a newbie game I was ICing a few months ago and I thought she was perfectly competent. I generally think of defensive play as town play so I lean town on Thor for now, but I don’t agree with his arguments about BS.
I know sotty isn’t the most aggressive player, but zach is and if their hydra takes on any qualities from him I’d expect more contributions. Sotty/Zach should’ve been a power player in the Rumble and they really weren’t.
I agree with Brosius’ latest vote about Snake’s vote coming for a non-reason and that it is bothersome.
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Thanks chesskid... yuck.
I think Hoppster’s play late in the Rumble follows much of the argument that I made about KK earlier in the Rumble; I don’t think he was right but I think he was actually thinking about what was best for the town which counts for something. I think he’s been wrong so far in what player’s he’s going after but again I don’t see anything that suggests to me that he’s scum in that just that he's looking for the wrong things.
I'll take any other follow-up if you have it. I still think Baby Spice is a good choice for a lynch and I'm pretty ambivalent to the other wagons with more than one vote.-
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@Thor, that's not a bad thing, ithat's a good thing. The reason they didn't get mentioned is that they're both neutral/neutral-town leans. I don't especially care for IS' playstyle but it seems to be consistent and he's attacking/attacked a target in NC that I don't especially care for. In regards to Gobots I simply don't see anything since his slightly bothersome Rumble phase where he looked a little opportunistic that stands out as scummy and frankly in retrospect I like his admission that he wanted the belt.-
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Definately a better wagon than Brosius, mostly because I actually like SB's vote on Snake.
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So, quoting is banned and yet you just quoted that post.
And Trendall's newness doesn't excuse or counter his complete absence of scumhunting; playing a large game like this is certainly different and you might not be effective in getting together a wagon but that doesn't mean you don't see something scummy and go "hey, this is scummy" just like in any other game and so far Trendall has completely failed to do that.-
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That last two bristep posts are just brutal.
What the hell is up with Gobots rather pointless, "hey lets pressure lurkers when we have six days to deadline" nonsense?
Jediknight has moved from wanting a policy lynch but not calling it a policy lynch to wanting a policy lynch but not calling it a policy lynch.-
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If it wasn't obvious already IS I'm not going to claim.
Zach/Sotty, panic, instant claims, and instantly voting your accuser are for the weak and stupid who only play the game in the most simplistic of manners. The fact that you'd expect me to act like a chicken with my head cut off is actually a bit insulting.-
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KK's 1290 completely blows up IS' 1288 as just completely fraudulent.
Bristep's 1296 fails to consider the possibility of a town player gambiting for unknown reason along with town telling truth and scum lying.
Chesskid fails to understand that when I refuse to claim at the request of players I respect it's not exactly likely that I'm going to oblige a windowlicker like himself.
Chesskid then affirms his VI credentials by suggesting a mass name-claim forgetting that since Vezo outed himself he's likely to either be blocked or killed on any given night; thus defeating the point of the mass name-claim but also handing scum possibly useful information.
Oh and Kise is clearly not bothering to read the fucking thread or at least the earlier parts of it regarding me; I actually think his insight into the SK situation is plausible.
You know what I actually really like VV's case on GMan, it's simple but it makes a fair amount of sense and I think it's getting glossed over and deserves some face time.
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When furcolow and chesskid agree on something you can be assured that it's a bad idea. Also, furcolow brought up the mass name-claim idea after I'd already shot it down. Do I think he's not reading the thread? Likely.
Kise's point about me "not scumhunting" ignores the fact that there was a claim and bad assumption that I had to deal with and it was slightly important to put out that fire and then I came back to scumhunt when I next had access.
GMan posts jumping on to the biggest wagon and completely ignores VV's case on him and my vote for him pushing that case. I'd suggest he's trying to escape under the radar by not bringing extra eyeballs to it. I don't think he should be allowed to do so so I'll bring the topic up again.-
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Yes, Kise there are no other wrestlers from Minneapolis I could claim.
@Mod: Do I have the ability to move the other titles around? Because if so that'd be awesome for me to know, thanks-
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@Kise, I think you're wrong about the title belts (I think it's the IC/Tag Champs who can move their respective belts not me) but it doesn't hurt to get it clarified.
@Also Kise, heel hunting strikes me as a foolish idea; Bischoff spent all of his WWE tenure as a heel or tweener and yet was town; the Dudleyz spent plenty of time as both faces and heels and yet at least D'Von was a SK.
@VPB, Kise speculation of a SK-team. Seems at least plausible to me since he's not just listed as a serial killer but as a "Dudley BoyzCompulsive Table Serial Killer".
@Vezo, and I want a statue of Chester A. Arthur made out of candy canes; guess who is more likely to get what they want of the two of us.-
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Sotty/Zach, I've never had scum fake claim results on me on day two (or on any day I think) conversely I have had town claim fake or wrong results on me on day two. I think it's a far too risky move for any scum to pull and thus it would've been dumb to vote Vezo and try and get him lynched when he was and is likely town just with busted or partial (coupled with bad assumptions) results. Frankly, I figured there was a redirect or a busdriver in play there and was waiting to see if someone would clear up the confusion when Vezo started yelling about hometowns and I saw what the problem was.-
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NC is town; Kise is town; VPB is town; KK is town
I can’t read IS because I don’t know how much of everything he does is meta, but despite the fact that I think it’s a town originated wagon I don’t really care for it.
I also tend to think EA is town, he's getting emotional and annoyed at his wagon and IS; I think those are far more natural reactions from town than from scum.
SB’s 1414 response to KK is completely incoherent and I can make heads or tails of it.
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Sotty/Zach; I laid out my thought process on Vezo briefly in 1400 what part of that is wrong? You keep blithely asserting I should've behaved a certain way when it cuts against both my experience and basic intuition so please show me exactly where my thought process was flawed.-
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