Bunnylover's 2043 is very scummy
I view CKD as a very easy mislynch, and while I was reading him as scum during the time he had the treestump, I am actually suspecting he is town considering a few of these things:
1) his pressure on TMH
2) his defense of DBE
3) his town meta appearing scummy
I Am Innocent wrote:Saint wrote:It's in play. Let's decide who we want to dayvig, AND who we want to lynch.
It doesn't work like that.
The dayvig ability requires the Virus. I don't see a Virus around. The dayvig ability, if it is in the game, is presently useless.
But more importantly, consider the following.
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I had the Void Collector ability N1. I said I passed it to either Implosion or StrangerCoug N2. Definitely not WC. So that still leaves the following possibilities:
1) WC got the Void Collector N3 and saw nothing in there, signaling the dayvig was already picked up the prior night.
2) Implosion or StrangerCoug collected the Dayvig N2, and passed it to WC last night
3) Diddin used the BusDriver Ability N2 and gave it to WC N2 (and for some reason WC never brought it up).
There are lots of explanations, no need to jump down WC's throat quite yet. I actually believe him that the dayvig is in someone's hands here. Now whether we get to use that with an MIA Virus is another question.
Obv if/swhen the dayvig is fired up, that player should come forward and zap q21/treestump IMO.
Seconded, but we need to get this out in the open
now
as opposed to later
We are nearing the point that we need to just get everything out in the open as a town collective.
Saint wrote:I Am Innocent wrote:1) WC got the Void Collector N3 and saw nothing in there, signaling the dayvig was already picked up the prior night.
2) Implosion or StrangerCoug collected the Dayvig N2, and passed it to WC last night
3) Diddin used the BusDriver Ability N2 and gave it to WC N2 (and for some reason WC never brought it up).
There are lots of explanations, no need to jump down WC's throat quite yet. I actually believe him that the dayvig is in someone's hands here. Now whether we get to use that with an MIA Virus is another question.
I'm pretty sure 1) and 2) are impossible time-wise; the collection ability (and checking if something is in the Void) should resolve before passes (sending the Dayvig out). diddin Driving Dayvig sounds appealing, although giving it to WrathChild, not so much at all.
Regardless, without the Virus, the daykill is useless. There is one person who claimed information about the Virus, and he's not saying anything, so. >_>
Getting off of obnoxious speculation, who do you advocate lynching Today?
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nhammen, I'm actually kind of curious - why Saint for your N2 pass?
People tend to view my town play as painstakingly obvious when they are smart.
Nhammen is smart.
Nhammen views my town play as painstakingly obvious
Also, my night actions are typically amazing, when I'm around to send them in... or when the ability has them... if this one did.
This is the most confused I've ever seen you, Vi.
Basically, of the remaining 3-4 scum, I wouldn't be surprised if they're pushing CKD/us/WC today for a mislynch
That's my take on this game.
ALSO, the town needs to out who passed to who, what they passed, what was used, etc.
People are really getting by way too leniently, and people who just randomly claim to me are typically appearing town. That is why I'm sort of softclaiming defense on WC. He is just way too easy of a mislynch, and it has been tried all game. The only thing that is damning about it whatsoever is the fact that I haven't seen him flip, which implies it was deterred for a reason. There must have been more than one person leaning towards him being town, though, or he'd be dead.
My defense of CKD is thrown off by him not wanting to send that to TMH, but I'll admit that I was honestly reading TMH more as snarky town than I was reading him as unhelpful scum. He was actually helpful on D1, and I guess first impressions are everything. I have seen CKD play like this as town, in MoHO 1, and this fits that.
I feel like my reads have been all flip flopping, though. Hell, the fact that I've gone from passing the roleblocker ability, (omg, did he just claim something?!) which I used on DBE on N1 (which is why I was adamant on questioning DBE at the start of d2), to Q21, whereas I now find him to be scummy scum.
TMH flipping changes everything. It is like 9/11.