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Post #3552 (isolation #401) » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:39 pm
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Ythan wrote:Okay, good enough. I was suggesting that I'm starting to doubt (specifically your) confirmed status, but if it's something you're doing to keep yourself alive then that's enough for now. Don't need to know anymore; if scum's trying to kill you then they already know something is stopping them, but they don't need to hear what specifically. If your partner can just confirm as much as you said I'd like just that.
I knew what you were implying.
It's the only reason I even answered it.
TBH, I find it very hard for you to get around us being confirmed. All masons are alignment confirmed by mod, and Nik/Cup and I all claimed masonry. Then, Nik dies and flips Mason. I'm struggling to find the logic that can say either of us even has a possibility to be scum.
If you want to show me how I could be scum, please do. I'm interested, but it is not required.
Otherwise, I would like to hear your opinion on BunnyLover?
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3565 (isolation #402) » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:36 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
DTMaster wrote:
5. Ihmo: If LL and Cupcake weren't confirmed masons I'd attack them because for confirmed masons their play is awful all game. LL not so much now since she's showing more scum hunting ambition. Cupcake is just inactive, and has been for 2 game days.
I apologize for yesterday DTM. I have had a lot of things to do, and reading 120 pages to scum hunt wasn't one of them.
I'm trying to look ahead in this game now, and work harder.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3580 (isolation #403) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:08 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
You are a fool BunnyLover.
How many times do I have to say this?
MASONS ARE ALIGNMENT CONFIRMED BY MOD.
There. Said it in red too. So you CAN'T miss it.
So Either pay attention and do somethig relevant: (I.E: Your case on Ythan is that there is no case on Ythan? Wow, what a waste of time to make you look town.)
OR
Die. You're probably scum, but even in the small 5% range that you can exist as town, you're useless anyway.
Your choice.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3601 (isolation #404) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:59 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Bunny: I refuse to believe anyone is this stupid.
The goddesses of Hyrule are masons, allignment confirmed.
The Sages of Hyrule are neighbors, not allignment confirmed.
Both have a QT, and function similarly, but masons know they can trust eachother, while Neighbors can't take that at face value (as seen by substrike).
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3644 (isolation #408) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:10 pm
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
DTM, Bunny has been asked to post a relevant case on someone.
He has failed to do so.
His case on Cupcake doesn't work because, well, Cupcake is confirmed town. Waste of time by BL here.
Case on Ythan? What case? All I saw was a load of hand waving, and ending with a "I can't really make a read on him right now". He essentially says there is no info.
And then he posts a bunch of null reads... And sits on the fence.
That means Bunny has posted all of.... No relevant cases.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3682 (isolation #412) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:27 pm
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Ythan wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Yo DGB!
Nice way to leave yourself off all the vote counts you accumulated "scum points" for.
Calling players out for not including themselves in their scum calculations is usually dumb. However, since she isn't making judgment calls/doing anything but adding numbers up this is somewhat valid. I'd like to see how she places in her calculations.
If the post had been a series of cases, on different people, I wouldn't have commented. No one posts a case on themselves.
HOWEVER, what DGB is doing, is analyzing vote counts, and assigning her vote based solely on said analysis.
Not only does she not include her name on the list of points, but her name is not even PRESENT in the vote counts she has copy pasted into her post. Her name has been removed.
I find THAT suspicious.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3737 (isolation #422) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:40 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
I really hate that analysis style.
Use it on your own to your own benefit, but please don't rely on that alone to make conclusions such as "Ythan is town because he votes this person who later flipped scum".
Please ISO people and give reasonable conclusions before hand.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3740 (isolation #423) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:51 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Dude, what did I
JUST
get done saying?
Great. Your wagon analysis tells you that these people are scum. But it's exactly that. YOUR wagon analysis which tells YOU something.
No one else in this game can rely on this to draw their own conclusions.
I believe I just told you to ISO and find evidence before throwing out more claims about peoples alignment merely based upon your analysis.
So until you do that, my votes staying on you for your weird conclusion about "another shift" AND your current (but not overall) refusal to give evidence that isn't biased or unusable by town.
Seriously dude, your reaction to the Frog thing was really dry and rehearsed imho.
P-Edit: Then why did you label him under "TOWN"? Also, how does that confirm shit? Maybe Grey scum have an investigative role, and would want Substrike dead, because they found him to be scum? You can not tell Ythan's alignment from that vote. You can lean one way or another, but nothing can be really said about it. So please do me a favor and ISO him, and find some evidence in his posts of being town, before coming back here and making claims like that. The same applies to the people you called "almost assuredly [color] scum".
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3786 (isolation #429) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:20 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Messing with the frog...
Look, there exist two plausible solutions to this. One involves you both telling the truth, the other involves you both being scum. (I suppose a third could exist, but only in extraneous circumstances).
For the moment, this is our only lead. Other leads pop up, and I'll pursue those. However, a claim is good, because we get a sense of whether to chase this farther.
In any case, I'm not advocating a quick lynch of DGB. Quite the opposite, I want to see many points of view on this game, and who we should lynch before making any real conclusions.
For example, Mothrax clearly has something to share...
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3796 (isolation #431) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:26 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Ythan, let me take you back to earlier in the game. Remember attacking me for defending Cupcake?
This is a similar situation. You have little to no backing in your claim that she is town. So allow me to say this much: Either show me the fact that proves DGB as town (in your opinion) OR stop complaining about my play. It;s the exact same as you have done prior.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3807 (isolation #433) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:33 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Ythan wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ythan, let me take you back to earlier in the game. Remember attacking me for defending Cupcake?
This is a similar situation. You have little to no backing in your claim that she is town. So allow me to say this much: Either show me the fact that proves DGB as town (in your opinion) OR stop complaining about my play. It;s the exact same as you have done prior.
No, see, what you have to do if you want to be like me is actually
notice how I'm defending her and dispute it
rather than just saying "absolute proof or you're both scum". You have to make an effort to actually read, understand, and argue.
Very well.
You are defending her with no basis to do so, that we have seen.
I dispute this.
Please give us a basis.
P-Edit: You`re right ABR. The claims are different structure. So unless we get a mod confirmation that this is mod error, DGB is the wagon for today.
Mod: Are you allowed to confirm a mod error in the format of the claim DGB posted?
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3892 (isolation #436) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:51 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Ythan wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:If she was town, she would do her maximum to help the town.
Is this a joke? I can name two confirmed town in this very game that would dispute this claim.
Ignoring your obvious slander, can we slow down with the circular argument, until Mod gets here and either confirms or denies an error in the PM of DGB?
Here's another way of thinking about this. Ythan claims that he has a way to confirm that DGB is town. (You said it earlier, please don't make me go find it)
If this is true, how certain are you? As in, how sure can you be that you were not also duped by some kind of shift?
And while we are on the topic, assuming that DGB is town, how would you propose that your action went from YTHAN to BEEFSTER, /AND/ became a killing action?
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3898 (isolation #438) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:59 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Ythan wrote:I never said I can confirm DGB as town. I said DGB could be (and I think she is) telling the truth about last night.
Then I misinterpreted.
(inb4 you call this role fishing, but it needs to be asked) Do you have any role info or outside information other than your gut/opinion that would have you leaning towards DGBtown? No need to claim specifics, a yes or no will suffice. And since this is a game where everyone is a PR, this wouldn't out you or anything.
Beyond that, I want a mod confirm for the PM.
But even so, we can't just rely on the PM to give us scum.
Bunnylover was really obvious yesterday, so we can't get complacent.
I'm not going to remove my vote from DGB, but the fact that there are 2 scum factions in this game means interactions can easily be 2 scum factions fighting each other.
At the moment, I'm interested in hearing what AKR has to say about Mothrax, and vice versa. That seems like a line of discussion that could lead to some solid leads.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3902 (isolation #439) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:03 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Thank you Mod.
Ok, that solves that problem. If there are no other complaints about DGB (outside of the ones stated about me not liking her form of vote count analysis as scumhunting) then I think this has run its course.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3904 (isolation #440) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:08 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Ythan wrote:I would never have supported DGB here without solid information. Yes, I have more than gut/opinion.
For now, I'll UNVOTE: . This can be dealt with later, and if you are vouching for DGB, then it's not worth pursing at the moment. We can always check that later.
I want to hear more from Mothrax and AKR. Supposedly something happened last night that has made them suspect each other?
P-Edit: I saw something about Sheeping DTM, but I don't see how she can be sheeping when my main problem with her is how she's putting too much of her opinions out into the town as fact. The two problems can't co-exist.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3906 (isolation #441) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:13 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Ythan wrote:Lady I am so proud of you right now! I take back everything I said. Actually I shift it to Cupcake.
Look. I'm not as stupid as you paint me to be >.<
I recognize the importance of pushing wagons and seeing where they lead.
Especially since not a soul in this game want to go ISO 150 pages of material.
So at this point, if anything seems off, I'm going to throw my vote at it. It's a tool, and should be used as one. Applying pressure, whether the outcome shows town or scum tendencies is never a bad thing. So long as you don't tunnel, and know when to back down.
There is nothing left to pursue, so I'm moving on.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3928 (isolation #444) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:46 pm
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Analysis on this post ALONE AND SEPARATE FROM EVERYTHING ELSE reads as follows.
Firstly, the quote is kinda weird... don't you find it weird that a character who's sole purpose is to give guiding quotes to Link, doesn't have one of their own quotes? Not even that.... I don't even think that's a quote from the game... It's a wiki fact. Either way, nothing can be based off of it, I just find it weird.
Secondly, the Sage of Light thing cane be taken two ways. Either A) Rauru flipped scum(substrike) so DGB is scum OR B) Rauru flipped scum(Substrike), so it makes sense that the re-incarnation is town. Null read, flavor wise and analysis wise.
Thirdly, the powers. Flavorwise, they all make sense. Some more than others, but hey, can't complain. The Guide thing is supposed to balance Substrike in the Sage group I think.
The BusDrive makes sense. That's something the character does in the game.
Body Guard ability is... the one I find awkward. Not only does it confirm a player as town, but it also protects that player for the night. Almost over powered...
Lastly, I would like to see your night actions the past nights. If you can clear anyone as town, with your ability, that would be helpful.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3954 (isolation #451) » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:16 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
I have my reasons for withdrawal.
I'll share when the moment comes.
Also, you silly people who use the number pad/number lock. It's all about using the top row number keys. (Which incidentally would make the number 4 three keys away from 1)
For now I'm withholding my vote, based upon Mothrax and AKR saying what they have to say.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3967 (isolation #452) » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:40 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
You realize this discussion is circular right?
Let me just solidify that for you.
No more useful information will come as a result of this line of investigation!
Knox`s 8th: It is forbidden to solve the case using clues that are not presented!
In other words, we don`t have evidence to support this line of questioning, and therefor it will get us nowhere.
Drop it, and move on to AKR and Mothrax.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
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Post #3971 (isolation #454) » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:50 am
Postby Lady Lambdadelta »
Wonderful.
So your plan is to blindly tunnel DGB to the gallows?
And not even examine other lines of interest for the day
Gee, that sounds like an amazing plan ABR! Let us ignore all other questions we have today simply because we think we have found a scum. Who needs information? Certainly not us! Not when we have 2 scum teams and a high chance of being stuck with little to no info tomorrow! Nah! Let's just wing it!
Please.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,