I have got to get me a hybrid...Saint wrote:I'm here, guys. I haven't consulted with Vi, yet, so I'll keep this brief.
...if you havent consulted with Vi yet, why even bother posting?..and who are you?
I have got to get me a hybrid...Saint wrote:I'm here, guys. I haven't consulted with Vi, yet, so I'll keep this brief.
which is what you said in the last line of the quoted post..curiouskarmadog wrote:it almost sounds like an anti-lurker mechanic.Parama wrote:It goes boom if I don't pass it quick enough.
Which is why I'm waiting until someone does something scummy to pass it.
Alternatively, it can be used to bomb a lurker if need be.
Parama wrote:I've kinda answered both these already butcuriouskarmadog wrote:but before I get into it...Para, your "potato"...how long does the person get to hold before it kills them...AND can it be passed multiple times in a day?
1. Not telling
2. It can be passed whenever the hell someone wants to pass it.
feel free to nominate me for scum finders bitches.The Eruci wrote: [*]Any Anti-Town Faction existing within this game maynotpass a standard ability to any of their partners, if any partners exist within the game. Nonstandard abilities may exist in the game.
diddin wrote:Unvoting without a revote, ick.WrathChild wrote:EBWOP:WrathChild wrote:I actually see where Pops is coming from. I've seen interactions with role and scum-alignment cause this sort of confussion, which resulted in a delay of clarification, which is usually suspiciously defined. However, I'm not sure it's quite lynch worthy, just note worthy at the moment. I need to go back and check what the Virus is supposed to do.
I agree with the MoI plan and will definately be happy to announce all/any passing I do.
I also think the fact that the Treestump is testable during the day could be a useful scum hunting tool, but we need to figure out how many disruption roles we have first, meaning that targets should not be discussed prior to handoff, only after... for now.UNVOTEmy RVS vote.
unvote, Vote: WrathChild
Magna, I think this hot potato role is fairly powerful, do you not? I'm also getting town vibes from Parama, even more than usual in this game.
are you expecting him to say "go town"?Parama wrote:And no "BAH GO TOWN" or anything? Hehehe.
who are you?...I know Vi..but who are you?Saint wrote:Vi got onto me already. I have been formally chastised. Sure, it was unnecessary, but so was your lack of going back to said post and seeing what I was referring to or actually reading to see who I was talking to which was very, very evident.
Saint wrote:If I told you, you would replace out as town, and stick around as scum
oh god dammit...you are one of the reason we lost Holy Orders...Vi's stock just went WAAAAYYY down agreeing to be a hydra with you...if I would have known.Furcolow wrote:I would like to re-request joining in, kunk, on Saint
it will be a hydra of myself and Vi
what exactly is your definition of fluff?...also why do you think it is scummy that I didnt vote Prama but did vote Diddin?...do you know something I dont...also you are misrepresenting me here why?.. Did I vote Diddin before his "claim" or after?Nero Cain wrote:most of your posts seem like fluff. You more or less called Prama scummy and didn't vote him BUT were happy to vote for Diddin perhaps to lynch him before he gets his kill in?curiouskarmadog wrote:awesome lets dig a little deeper into this...why>?Nero Cain wrote: I myself get major scum vibes from CKD.
unvote;vote:CKD
pops has a good point about not telling who the daykill goes to.
something about this post is bothering me...what does "discern alignment" and what scum might or might contol have to do with each other?Powerrox93 wrote:UNVOTE:AntB wrote:Trying to discern alignment from who has what role is pointless...
VOTE: AntB
No it's not.
We don't want scum to control every single ability in this game
am I missing something..did he say he thought someone else is scummy am I am missing it?diddin wrote:It's scummy because it shows a player is not putting a vote where there mouth is. Unless it's close to or the hammer, it's scummy to talk a lot about someone being scum but unvoting and not revoting.curiouskarmadog wrote:also was getting ready to unvote, but I dont think diddin ever addressed my vote.
@Diddin, did you every explain why unvoting and not revoting is scummy?..do you have a game that you saw wscum do this?
who cares if he never mentioned you before?...he thought you did something scummy and said he had a vibe...we are still in day 1...all anyone really has are vibes....explain to me exactly what is scummy about this.AntB wrote: @Saint
You willing to lynch me, despite never mentioning me before that post. I don't like that you just called me out like that without provocation and more impotently, without evidence. Why me specifically? How do you get that "[I'm] a great player"? There is practically no usable meta on me unless you've been through me active games, which would suggest you either already have suspicions or are basing your voting strategies based primarily on meta.
Also, I would like whoever you are to post without Vi's help on this one please.
you havent explained what is exactly scummy (or "raises your suspicion") in mentioning he would have no problem voting you..have you played with Vi before?AntB wrote:He hasn't even mentioned vibes yet, it was a straight and simpleFirst mention of me in any one his posts. Nothing about scummy or vibes. I haven't specifically called it out as scummy, just something which has raised my suspicions of him slightly more.Saint wrote:p.s. I would also be happy voting EC or AntB
He says my FoS seems a bit OMGUS to him then he makes an AtE by saying "[I'm] a great player". Seems a bit odd to dismiss my FoS as OMGUS then trying to get on my good side...
The reason for not wanting Vi's input for this one as the guy evidently needs a hand standing on his own two feet in Mafia, hence the hydra with Vi. I am assuming that post was made without Vi's input (its seems slightly out of place to the others) so I want him to explain himself without a helping hand.
I would rather we just stop talking/directing the doc..if the doc thinks you are worth protecting tonight, then so be it...why give scum more information than we have too?...diddin wrote:I hope to god this is Furcolow who posted this.Saint wrote:No doc is going to protect youdiddin wrote:Never mind then. Still works if there is a doc or something on me though.
if a doc would protect you he is an idiot
The town is going to vote on who you shoot if I have any say about it
A doc protect would insure I pass off my dayvig power tonight. Why is a doc an idiot for protecting me?
Also we've already decided to vote on who I shoot.
The only way this makes sense is if you think I'm one-shot, in which case you're seriously blind.
pops has gotten more protown. AntB hasn't. HoSing someone for being a newb, then throwing around a ton of suspicion on Sait while keeping a vote on Narsis for voting for gut. Earlier he FoS's Saint for ...swearing and randomly posting... yeah.
AntB, can you please provide me a link of a completed game that you were in....AntB wrote:HoS for newb and no attempt to learn or even read up on how mafia works. Pressure to read up, not my best move by a long shot but it seems to have done something.
FoS on Saint for a load of random crap and seeming trying to throw people off.
Could also be an attempt to cover up the future post saying who he's prepared to vote for, hoping we'll think Saint, skip. Scumbuddies would keep an eye on it.
2nd FoS was for randomly coming out of the blue with he'd be happy to vote me, go read through it properly and you'll see what I mean.
I'm waiting for Saint to reply before moving my vote.
Did you read why I voted for Narsis?
He bandwagon-voted EC without a single mention of EC in any of his posts. Hardly gut feeling. In fact, he did pretty much the same as Saint has done to me but actually placed his vote.
FoS didinMis-rep my vote as "gut" despite clear explanation in the associated post.
there is a reason I asked for a game..more info to follow...also NEVER PM someone outside of the game.AntB wrote:Subject: Cyclic Experimentation Set x01 - [Day One]Meta is over-rated. Also, I don't have one. which the mod seemed to have missed.curiouskarmadog wrote:AntB, can you please provide me a link of a completed game that you were in....
If you want meta badly, the other games I'm in are available on my wiki page.
I am unorthodox, I am highly scummy because of it. or so I'm told.
I really need to find that game I kicked ass as scum... circular reasoning ftw...
where did the mod say that?popsofctown wrote:ebwop, the mod said he was a townie. I got confused by the town alignment being named after the mod :S
are you afraid to define fluff?Nero Cain wrote:You're totally right. You voted him before he claimed. So my bad. But still your posting fluff.curiouskarmadog wrote:what exactly is your definition of fluff?...also why do you think it is scummy that I didnt vote Prama but did vote Diddin?...do you know something I dont...also you are misrepresenting me here why?.. Did I vote Diddin before his "claim" or after?
I am missing it..how do you know he is town?themanhimself wrote:Alright, AntB was town so I checked who's voted him and it's been CKD and powerrox so I'm gonna read them both in ISO and post my thoughts.
if I was on another team...wouldnt I know who was town and scum?I Am Innocent wrote: Wondering if your confusion with the word Eruci is tied to another team's allegiance...
why is that?popsofctown wrote:ebwop, the mod said he was a townie. I got confused by the town alignment being named after the mod :S
liking lateralus, appears to be wanting people to give stancesLateralus22 wrote:Who's lynch do you want?
What weird vibes am I giving you? Why don't you see Helghast scum, also what do you think of Wrath's latest posts?
I read it as saying “the mod changed X to a survivor”… I was confused…I know that the town and the mod have something in common….but that is beside the point because my fucking PM is posted on the first page…and, I wasn’t the only one that it tripped up..but lets get to that point.chkflip wrote:
- CKD's frantic firing 355-357 raises huge exclamation points out of my head. I don't understand how any townie wouldn't see Eruci and immediately know what it means. He obviously hasno ideain the first two posts and miraculously posts "ohIgetit" before anyone can call him on it? I call bullshit. His response to IAI's question of his alignment is a half-ass jokey response that reads more scummy than anything I've read in this game thus far. He writes "if I was on another team... wouldn't I know who was town and scum? :dumbrolleyesemotetoemphasizedumbjoke:" UMM, NO, ACTUALLY. IT DOESN'T. IF YOU WERE TOWN, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE TOWN AND THE MODERATOR HAVE SOMEHING HUGE IN COMMON.
OK, I can see how you misread this post too.chkflip wrote: - Then CKD has the gaul to end 374 by calling out popsofctown for the very same thing he just missed, as if to use a little deflection himself. If both flip scum, I'd lol, but pops has been very pro-town this game, so it could be a coincidence.
I am not calling out pops..I understand completely why pops misread the mod post….the entire post is direct towards I Am Innocentcuriouskarmadog wrote:if I was on another team...wouldnt I know who was town and scum?I Am Innocent wrote: Wondering if your confusion with the word Eruci is tied to another team's allegiance...
what I find interesting though is why you pointed at me, but completely ignore the other person who did the EXACT same thing.why is that?popsofctown wrote:ebwop, the mod said he was a townie. I got confused by the town alignment being named after the mod :S
interesting statement...if WC flips scum?..not liking this post.Saint wrote:Diddin, if you shoot WC without at least 10 or more people saying "go for it" that you quote in a post, I am going to push your lynch so hard.
any reason you have no comment on Snake?WrathChild wrote:Post Count:
-LynchMePls: 2
-RedCoyote: 12
-MagnaOfIllusion: 11
-themanhimself: 21
-Lateralus22* (Thelonging): 24
-WrathChild: 23
-curiouskarmadog: 28
-Helghast: 11
-Powerrox93: 13
-quadz08: 19
-chkflip: 17
-Nero Cain: 11
-Narsis: 6
-Q21: 3
-diddin: 27
-popsofctown: 54
-SnakePlissken: 1
-I Am Innocent: 15
-StrangerCoug* (UnofficialRuler): 4
-Parama: 35
-Implosion: 16
-EtherealCookie: 14
-Saint/Vi: 27
Ok, had some extra time this morning. There are three players with disturbingly low post counts. I need to double check the V/LA status on these people.
I feel like I am have had this same arguement with you before....sooooo, given this theory...all scum has to do is not post...I understand this stances..after D1, but during D1? Just thought, if in the future LMP, flips scum, I would look to the lurkers for buddies...LynchMePls wrote: Lurker hunting is NOT a good place to start to find SCUM. It is a good place to start to find mislynches.
Expanded enough?
why? The guy you are voting is posting…aren’t you trying to look for scum?Parama wrote:Stop wallposting.
I haven't and am not going to read the past 20 posts.
hey asshat...I am caught up, I need to reread given the new information...why arent you doing that???!?!? of course, you probably missed that too didnt you...you know what I am tired of...you saying shit that isnt true, then backtracking when you are called out for it...at first I thought is a mistake...but you have done it 2-3 times nowNero Cain wrote:So whats your problem with a powers lynch? I do not like your fear mongering.themanhimself wrote:I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've hadthreetownie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?
I'm really getting sick of CKD and his constant needing to catch up or reread. Contents or die.
more scum points for you....hey scum bag, why didnt you bring this up BEFORE he vigged? You just saved it for after so you can attack him?WrathChild wrote:The point is that you narrowed the potential Vig candidates down to two very early and greatly influenced the number of people voting for each of those players by doing so. You can't just say "DERP! They had lotso votes", they had lots of votes because you said they were they only two people you would shoot. EC would of had many more votes if you didn't deny the option to shoot him.diddin wrote:Because shooting before everyone can voice their opinion on a daykill we were going to decide to be done democratically is a great idea!quadz08 wrote:Why the hell would you do that? *scumdarasplode*diddin wrote:I wanted to wait until as close to deadline as possible.
My God you are slow.WrathChild wrote:I also think that Diddin should examined a bit closer because essentially he limited his Vig targets to only myself and Helghast, he refused to kill EC. It seems to be a safe-scum play to limit the vig targets as he did. While he made it appear that we had a choice, it was win-win for Diddin IF he is scum.
How many times did we agree I was shooting people with a lot of votes (hint: not EC)? How many times did I say I didn't want someone else to claim and potentially out a stronger power role? It's like I'm talking to someone and whenever I make a point they stick their fingers in their ear and go LALALALALALA YOU'RE WRONG YOU'RE WRONG
do you have a game link where as scum he was that ballsypopsofctown wrote:From Parama? Nocuriouskarmadog wrote:this is too ballsy to me scummy....ughParama wrote:Hey quadz.
I don't even care about what you want from me. If you find it scummy that I haven't responded, then you're going to hate me after this game's over.
oh please fucking tell me you are saying being defensive is scummy..please...please...Nero Cain wrote:^^^^^way to defensive for a townie.
are you saying you are agreeing with him?...have no clue what the above means.popsofctown wrote:+1 internetsNero Cain wrote:^^^^^way to defensive for a townie.curiouskarmadog wrote:hey asshat...I am caught up, I need to reread given the new information...why arent you doing that???!?!? of course, you probably missed that too didnt you...you know what I am tired of...you saying shit that isnt true, then backtracking when you are called out for it...at first I thought is a mistake...but you have done it 2-3 times nowNero Cain wrote:So whats your problem with a powers lynch? I do not like your fear mongering.themanhimself wrote:I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've hadthreetownie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?
I'm really getting sick of CKD and his constant needing to catch up or reread. Contents or die.unvote, vote Nero Cain.
you have done absolutely NOTHING protown in the game...you bitch that I havent put forth any content, but you have done JACK SHIT....not to mention, I bet you havent checked my other current games to see if (i dont know) actually didnt have time to post earlier this week...you are not scum hunting only coasting by
my vote is in the right place....(and this goes for WC too) Overreaction is scummy??? BULLSHIT...I have caught so many scum, pushing that shit as a case...but guess what...they cant explain why overreaction is scummy, or post a game where they have developed this theory...Nero Cain wrote:CKD needs a hearse b/c he's dying.
We need unity. TMH or Powerox?
first of all I didnt overreact to anything..I saw something as scummy and jumped on it..second...check out my wiki...I have caught SOOOOOO many scum pushing this as a case against town...also, this is just how I play..I get angry..I cuss. That is how I got my title.....scum love, to say..."CKD is overreacting...or is too defensive is must be scum"...and I love catching them when they do....I would put MONEY on Nero being scum.popsofctown wrote:@curious karma dog: very defensive behavior is scummy, because a scum player's survival is more important to his wincon than a town player's is to him. Admittedly it's not the best tell since town players still want to live, but there is a difference that can be exploited and read.
if you really believed I was scum, wouldnt you want to see who I passed it to BEFORE you wanted me killed...wouldnt that not only clear you , but someone else? Seems to me that if you were really town, that would be the best play. I am having a fucking hard time believing that you didnt think about that. Vig me today and when I flip town, you can always say, oh I guess I was wrong. If you thought I was scum and you wanted to have me vigged today, what was the point of giving me a treestump? you learn absolutely nothing by my death.implosion wrote:I passed the treestump to curiouskarmadog. I figured he was fairly likely scum, and if he eventually did flip scum then it could clear me, but that he wasn't likely to be today's lynch. Come to think of it, he might be a good vig target.
yeah, but in my case, you know exactly what my ability is and who exactly gave it to me..also, I am not scum...so offing me today, would be doubly bad.popsofctown wrote:Getting a dead scum and being able to connect him to other players and prevent him from using any night actions and/or hoarding the stump, and destroying the stump, allFARoutweigh clearing an additional player.
Also, it seems like at least half of us has a power, so killing pretty much anyone has this drawback.
Quit acting indignant.
you know what you can do with this comment right?..I find this an EXTREMELY interesting comment...you and I played in a game before where I was much much worse to you (the comment wasnt even directed at you)...and you didnt say jack that game..just kept calling me scum (incorrectly)...but now you do?...(also Vi is very familiar with my rants, so I doubt he is saying this)..why now are you bringing it up? and it isnt that I dont like you...I dont like you playstyle or lack thereof in the last game we shared...which makes me wonder, why you are so reserved with your opinion and votes this game?Saint wrote:CKD's 929 is a bit... heated?mod, care to ask him to tone it down? I don't want that directed towards me, and risking myself a modkill, and CKD doesn't like me... so please get him to refrain from the attitude/tone. Thanks!
also, i didnt have anything D1I Am Innocent wrote:Five players still need to chime in on their D1 power or lack of power. Please do so ASAP.
Also, I did not see any mention from MOI's post about what to do with players who passed an ability onto a player who died. Is this something we should discuss D2 so we can easily track roles still in the game/not in the void? I am leaning towards yes but I want to make sure I am not missing anything.
I am saying the move is suspicious...scum would want to vig ability for themselves to take out townies...if today he kills someone and it ends up being scum, not as suspicious...but if he hits a townie, it doubles the suspicion in my eyes...Nero Cain wrote:Are you saying that if TMH hits scum he's not scummy but if he hits town then he is scummy?curiouskarmadog wrote:if tmh does get a vig today and he doesnt hit scum for whatever reason, the move to take the vig role is fucking super scummy
Are you saying he is scummy either way?curiouskarmadog wrote:I am saying the move is suspicious...scum would want to vig ability for themselves to take out townies...if today he kills someone and it ends up being scum, not as suspicious...but if he hits a townie, it doubles the suspicion in my eyes...Nero Cain wrote:Are you saying that if TMH hits scum he's not scummy but if he hits town then he is scummy?curiouskarmadog wrote:if tmh does get a vig today and he doesnt hit scum for whatever reason, the move to take the vig role is fucking super scummy
are you even reading the game?...just +1....if they are not unfounded, they are out and out lies until someone calls him out of it and he gives you the old "oops i was wrong BS"...quadz08 wrote:..... Oooooookay then. Nero Cain's Unfounded Accusations Tally: +1.Nero Cain wrote:I know your pissed that I called out your scumbuddy, CKD, but alot can happen in 22 minutes. But your right, even if he were scum its not like he'd actually admit to reading a QT.
implosion wrote:@ckd (929), I really didn't think that far ahead and wanted to get rid of the stump. Also, just to confirm that you received the treestump, you should vote for someone.
oh good ole Vi...what exactly is the purpose....I really am curious...Saint wrote: To answer your next question, no, I won't post more. That would defeat the purpose.[/i][/color]
I actually like the mechanic and plan on using it for future games...Saint wrote:Really though - because the player has to actually SEE that they have the Virus (as in pick up the PM) and THEN decide to do nothing for 75 posts, the only people who wouldn't pass it off are people who are suicidal (Parama) or people who don't understand what "death" means (muh). It's in nobody's best interest to keep it except people who are actively willing to drag the game down and want out.
whoa, why do you want this?....and when you say "we" who are you talking about? I dont care who he protected last night, why do you?...what could possibly be found with this info?Bunnylover wrote:DBE we don't want to know who you passed the power to.
We want to know who you protected with your powers last night.
curiouskarmadog wrote:whoa, why do you want this?....and when you say "we" who are you talking about? I dont care who he protected last night, why do you?...what could possibly be found with this info?Bunnylover wrote:DBE we don't want to know who you passed the power to.
We want to know who you protected with your powers last night.
after this comment, I am just not seeing DBE as scum
......
vote Bunnylover.
damn stump.
umm, it is only anti-town IF SHE IS TOWN..if she is scum, then it would be protown..the above statement makes no since....themanhimself wrote:I agree with LMP. Darla's whole "I'll eat the virus for queen and country" bit is completely anti-town. If she's town then she should be scumhunting, not agreeing to die. Her consistent refusal to answer the simple question "top 3 scum picks and why" is further proof that she's done no scumhunting this game.
I can..rather send it to bunny...but i have no problem passing it to whoever the town on a whole wants me too...since this ability is out in the open, we should use it to create linksI Am Innocent wrote:CKD, assuming both you and TMH make it to the end of D2, are you going to send the Tree Stump to him N2?