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Post Post #49 (isolation #0) » Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:30 am

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confirm

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Post Post #64 (isolation #1) » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:10 am

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Not vital I guess, but it'd be pretty fucking helpful yeah. Scum got it last game. We still could have won of course if VV hadn't hammered me >_<
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Post Post #94 (isolation #2) » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:48 am

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Thanks for the suggestion.

Apart from putting sub at 1 (since it's very very dangerous in scum's hands) I think people should pick what they want/think they can use best.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #3) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:31 am

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Kitoari wrote:We should pick someone by consensus who we believe is town to have them take one of the obviously pro-scum abilities.
that's a good idea (but not really)
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Post Post #160 (isolation #4) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:36 am

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[quote[MY NUKE ISNT GOING TO RESULT FROM A TOWN CIRCLE JERKING, I.E. DONT BOTHER TRYING TO CONTROL IT WITH PSEUDO-VOTES.
MY NUKE IS THE NUKE THAT SHALL PIERCE THE HEAVENS.[/quoted]
QFT

Also no to nuke claim, no to picking someone town to take nuke blah blah strategy talk which I don't care about since I already sent my picks in.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #5) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:20 am

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LYNCHABLE EH?

"Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not the hero. He's a silent guardian, watchful protector. The Dark Knight."

^^ this is how I feel on the nuke discussion
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Post Post #174 (isolation #6) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:52 am

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Who's jumping on who?
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Post Post #182 (isolation #7) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:04 am

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It's not hard, judge the person on their actions. So if someone comes out and nukes someone obvtown, saying 'welp thought he was scum hehehehe' isn't gonna make much difference.

If I have a nuke I'll use it as I see fit.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #8) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:12 am

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Toogeloo wrote:
SpyreX wrote:ARGH HULK SMASH

I'm fully aware of how it works. Even limited information (that sure as hell has the chance to become total information) is a good thing. A real good thing.

Especially once bodies start hitting the floor.
We will need one team entirely dead to ensure future scans as accurate with the role. It would be useful in end game, sure, but there can be a lot of wasted potential early game.
To be fully accurate? yes, but knowing someone's not in scumfaction a is still damn useful information.

STRATEGY talk is so much fun.

We need more fire and blood.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #9) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:24 pm

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Bunnylover wrote:unch and disapeer.
I agree with this.
Don't really care who or what you nuke, as long as you can justify why you did it[/quote]
This isn't something I agree with, you can try and justify something all you like, but if I think what you did is scummy, well FIRE AND BLOOD will happen in some way.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #10) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:01 pm

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Sure, but just because you can justify something doesn't make you not scummy. You can justify most things, is what I'm saying. Maybe it was supposed to be 'Justify it, and I agree with it/see where you're coming from' but that wasn't really all that obvious.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:27 am

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It's okay, your contribution up to now's been dead on, so cut yourself some slack.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:39 am

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@ VV did you ever read D1 and D2 of last game or are you just guessing? Judging by what you've said ITT the latter seems more likely.

Jed do you intend to HANG 'EM HIGH? (yeah we should try and get as many clint eastwood westerns referenced as possible)
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Post Post #399 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:03 am

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Jed Cooper wrote: I agree with Faraday here because he also advocates a lynch of the nuke rebel, but look at the bolded!

Next thing you know you have broken arrows flying everywhere. Scum heaven.
I don't think you do, I'm saying fire off nukes, if I don't like the target then tick tick tick that's the sign of your life running out. Definitely not interested in trying to control people.

IDK about Jed, I vaguely remember reading a game with his alt in it, a webcomic game or something, where he got himself in all sorts of trouble day 1. I don't think he's really that scummy at the moment. Certainly there are better targetstm.

Seems like there should be more people posting ITT.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:41 am

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I agree Gandalf, just replace pressure with kill.
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Post Post #561 (isolation #15) » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:34 am

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Katsuki wrote:READS AS OF PAGE16.

Town:

Fate
Katsuki
Spyrex
RC
Percy
Baby
Toog
Socio
Jack
IS

Need to die/Scum:

DANA
Chesskid
Jed

No Read:

Everyone else


So I got to page 16. Main thing I have to say is that the public declaration of a nuke is more than enough in terms of keeping a player accountable. If say, A nukes someone who town disagrees upon, and refuses to recall nuke with VI-stubborness, then A is in need of a nice nuking himself.
In essence, town gets to vote in a sense upon a nuking AFTER the nuke is launched, not before. As baby spice said, there is 3 days to recall the nuke. Pressure and subsequent discussion of a nuke is pro-town.

As for toog vs spyspy, I think what is at hand is a clash in playstyles. RC put it pretty well, in that you should pick what you are comfortable with. I see toog's argument in terms of preventing scum from taking roles like sub though.

There was something else I wanted to ask, but it has slipped my mind for the meantime.
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P-EDIT: HOLY SHIT 25 P-EDIT POSTS?!?!
^^^^^^scum btw in case anyone missed it.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:52 am

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chesskid3 wrote:Dana's an easy wagon. I don't like just how many people jumped on that ship, and it makes me see dana as more town.
How does this work with multiscum though?

I've had plenty of experiences where the player jumped was actually scum, see Mipe in Cult of Dark And Shadow for the best example of an idiot* who's scum.

*Nice guy though.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:22 pm

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REPOSTING: HOW MANY HOURS TILL DEFCON 3.

time to get this party started.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #18) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:57 am

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vote katsuki
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Post Post #701 (isolation #19) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:01 am

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unvote vote dana
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Post Post #708 (isolation #20) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:06 am

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Bunnylover wrote:o.o
Vote Faraday

1) He comes in (I think its a he), and joins the biggest wagon, although everyone was doing it, without any reason what so ever, or even saying I agree with what is previously stated.
2)Does the exact same thing, only changes his vote to Dana.

@Jed: The post I did made, I gave out my opinions. If I didn't give an opinion on something, then the odds are great that I didn't have one.
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Post Post #709 (isolation #21) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:06 am

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Jed's got a better chance of being town than Katsuki and Dana, especially after that fucking awful vote from dana.
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Post Post #763 (isolation #22) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:34 am

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danakillsu wrote:Hahaha. Random lynch for the win. Whatever, have it your way. There's nothing I can do to defend against a policy lynch like this. I'm no more important than the rest of the town, but I really wish you would pick someone else.
@chesskid3
I know you don't always suck too.
> POLICY LYNCH

stopped reading there.
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Post Post #765 (isolation #23) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:36 am

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-Fail Safe is similar to BOMB, and scum would rarely like to trade 1 for 1, but a kill is still a kill. Americans are more likely to lose two town members I would bet.

I don't understand why you put failsafe on the list given this? Something I'm missing?
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Post Post #766 (isolation #24) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:40 am

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Very little posting tomorrow till Sunday, 2 exams.
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Post Post #768 (isolation #25) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:45 am

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type in caps lock more often
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Post Post #821 (isolation #26) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:26 am

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Katsuki wrote:Faraday you have yet to explain why I was scum.
scummy posts/horrible list sums it up quite succinctly.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #27) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:57 pm

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vote for jed is scummy enough by itself, really.
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Post Post #862 (isolation #28) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:29 pm

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i;'m never wrong get outta my face
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Post Post #900 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:14 am

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unvote vote katsuki
srsly let's lynch this scumbag.
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Post Post #984 (isolation #30) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:05 am

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POSTING. sorry will read the pages later been busy with finals and other games were more interesting atm.
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #31) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:27 am

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Missed shit loads at the end of yesterday it seems. Will probably read it eventually.

Would love to lynch katsuki,
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:36 am

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Fate wrote:
Faraday wrote:Missed shit loads at the end of yesterday it seems. Will probably read it eventually.

Would love to lynch katsuki,
Vote Katsuki
Faraday, don't do this. Don't make me lump you in with THEM.

Break out of null territory, I KNOW YOU HAVE IT IN YOU
Yeah I'm gonna try and step it up.


Where I am atm is

Okay, so I've already established Kats is scum, I guess I can wait till tomorrw and hopefully someone will sort it out, since no one seems interested (for clarity, read the very first list posted, it looks like something done by someone with a random number generator, the questions to bobsnox are terribad too, but kats/bob aren't scum together I'd say)

This whole IT CAN'T BE TOWN VS TOWN argument is the biggest load of garbage I've seen. Bunnylover and who else said it I'm looking at you.

Let's see, what else. SnakePlissken is very much town, I'm pretty confident in my Jed = town. There's a lot of other people who are obv town as well but we can get to them later.

Wouldn't cry over any of these people dying right now
Bunnylover
Katsss
Danakillsu

Dana's probably the most informative lynch, but kats has > chance of being scum by a little.

Baby Spice/Gandalf/bob are just there for me with very little of anything and are probably nukebait. Same with Lemon buttt I've not glanced at his iso to make sure I'm remembering correctly. Actually put Kitaori in there too, not sure if I confused him with katsuki or he's just not done much. And VV who's earlier posting was off before he lurked to replacement.
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Post Post #1269 (isolation #33) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:49 pm

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katsuki's scum so it's OK.


Unvote Vote Bunnylover though
for great justice too.
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Post Post #1352 (isolation #34) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:57 am

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NUKE KATSUKI
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #35) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:59 am

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AurorusVox wrote:He's trying to gain town-cred for (claiming) having had a townie read on Bunny. I proved that according to his posts, he can't have had that read. Therefore he is lying and claiming reasons retroactively. I'd have said the same if he wasn't voting me.
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Post Post #1435 (isolation #36) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:00 pm

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POST WITH THE CORRECT ACCOUNT SCUM
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #37) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:02 pm

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HERP A DERP FARADAY Y R U TUNNELING ON MY HORRIBLE LISTS. Where's that scumhunting like you promised. I won't be recalling my nuke anyway, homie don't play that. I aint no indecisive mess.


Bob needs to die ASAP too. Someone do the honours.
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #38) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:04 pm

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Faraday: you are "pretty confident" in your Jed(=Snake) town read, so what do you make of SpyreX's nuke?
DISAGREE WITH IT. DOesn't change my read of SpyreX as he's been obviously suspicious of snake for a while now. No point crying over spilled milk since we'll have dead scum anyways.
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #39) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:04 pm

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Katsuki wrote:Suspects list currently consist of:

Fate



Gandalf
Jack
Faraday

If nuke not recalled I will be shooting one of these players tomorrow.


P-Edit: Well that works too. NUKES AHOY THEN.

NUKE: FATE
LOL @ THIS FUCKING SCUM CLAIM.
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #40) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:03 pm

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and there will be much rejoicing when katsuki dies, much rejoicing.

I'll have content later mebbe, going shopping today.
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #41) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:15 pm

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MINA IS ENGLISH YOUR FIRST LANGAUGE. lol.
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Post Post #1566 (isolation #42) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:16 pm

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DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
Toogeloo (11)
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Fate
, Jack,
SocioPath
, gandalf5166, Baby Spice, Katsuki,
SpyreX
, chesskid3,
AurorusVox
, SnakePlissken,
danakillsu


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Fate
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SocioPath
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AurorusVox
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Internet Stranger
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danakillsu
, inHimshallibe,
SpyreX
, bobsnox, Kitoari, Faraday

I think everyone should rank AurorusVox, danakillsu, Fate, SocioPath and SpyreX in order of scumminess.
i'm not really sure :/ what do you think?
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #43) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:21 pm

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AurorusVox wrote:FARADAYYYYYY

CLAIM OR NOT CLAIM? YOU ARE OBVTOWN. I DONT KNOW WHY BUT YOURE PLAYING THE SMAE AS D1....!!!
Um, well I hate to take advantage of drunk people and all (zerofang alt lol) so why don't you go ahead and do what you want. Do you think it's in your and the town's best interest to claim or are you just doing it for the 'lulz'.
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Post Post #1572 (isolation #44) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:24 pm

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oh if he's a nuke nuking izzy = ++ (idk who she replaced lol)

who did MINA replace, I hope she's town.
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Post Post #1661 (isolation #45) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:41 am

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The trouble with the leaks Percy posted is that we can't properly evaluate them with any sort of certainty as to how skeptical we should be of the messages until Percy is confirmed one way or the other. That means he needs to die.
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #46) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:55 pm

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1 nuke 1 scum.


GET ON MY LEVEL.
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Post Post #1794 (isolation #47) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:59 pm

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Fate
Katsuki
Spyrex
RC
Percy
Baby
Toog
Socio
Jack
IS

Is kats early town list, just reading over her posts. Some of these are really odd inclusions, iirc Jack/Baby Spice and Percy had done very little up to this point. this is probably one of thise things with one scumbuddy anyway. we can safely remove FATE. unless kat somehow killing a buddy would be a good idea (though she was playing so bad that etc)

early guess for scumbuddy would be Baby Spice just from generally scummyiness level I think.
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #48) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:46 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Ok. Look at all the surprise.

Faraday needs more the Kat shot was easy money for either before I'm confident.
huh? easy how, no one else apart from myself seemed to find her scummy at all (idr anyone voting her at any stage).
COURSE that doesn't make me town, as multi scum but etc.
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Post Post #1840 (isolation #49) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:08 am

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lol so funny xd (when's that guy dying)
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #50) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:40 pm

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omg ure rolefishing
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #51) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:44 pm

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGlz01VYEb8 while we wait for bob to die.
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #52) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:04 pm

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I always have time for one liners. they're what I live for.

the Jack I know your role thing? don't think it's a slip, AV's quite calculated. he was drunk then rit but even so, he was sober enough to type coherently, so yeah, don't think it's a slip if he's scum, more-so a calculated effort to try and escape the noose.

I wouldn't call what you did rolefishing. not scummy, quite mina-esque so null.
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Post Post #1878 (isolation #53) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:21 pm

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Fate wrote:
danakillsu wrote:
chesskid3 wrote:bye dana
NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo. I don't wanna die. I've been a model citizen up to this point. And it seems kinda obvious I didn't mean any harm by that. But rules are rules, and I should have read them more carefully BEFORE posting that. It's obviously up to the mod, and I apologise to the
players on my side
if I am modkilled.


LLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLLLOL
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #54) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:14 pm

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I don't think this is a very good scum strategy to waste your nuke, I'm pretty sold on Kit just actually being stupid here by not reading and it not being a master gambit of any kind. Doesn't make him town, although I'd view it as a slight town tell.

Dana's reaction to the modkill thing is quite scummy, certainly the way he wored what he did seems more likely to come from scum. 'Sorry to my team-mates' or something like that doesn't feel like something someone would say as town.
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Post Post #2029 (isolation #55) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:07 am

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vote dizzyizzy
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #56) » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:41 am

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AurorusVox
DizzyIzzyB13
Kitoari
Mina Baby Spice
SpyreX

contain the scum, right? spyrex just because he's not quite as obvtown as usually. av and d13 looks fairly good scumbets at this stage though.

AV why did you make the investigation choices you made? or has this been answered.
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Post Post #2151 (isolation #57) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:53 pm

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jack + chesskid are town. socio as 3.

Mina what's the point of a case if you've got a nuke?
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #58) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:57 pm

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spyrex who do you think fits the remaining scumteams apart from fate russia?
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Post Post #2154 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:01 pm

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Yeah I'm trying to understand the leaks. Av's pretty much russian scum isn't he?

Also I forgot what role jack has brb.
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #60) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:06 pm

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Fate wrote: THE FACT that he didn't die last makes me A LOT more suspicious ofn Jack.
unless i'm stupid be can't be killed at night. so, yeah.

ebwop: oh man, totally forgot socio was dead.
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Post Post #2158 (isolation #61) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:08 pm

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Air Base: Capable of deploying a wide variety of response aircraft within seconds and fortified to the brink, any infrastructure surrounding the air base becomes incredibly difficult to penetrate. {You are immune to all non-nuclear activated abilities (this includes the Stealth Bomber).}


aka you can only be nuked, right?
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Post Post #2272 (isolation #62) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:22 am

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HEY WHO'D YOU GET A GUILTY ON AV?
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #63) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:28 am

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Jack wrote:We should wait for fates flip before posting anything. Because I think he will flip russian, which knocks out a faraday/av team. I'm still leaning AV as chinese and can't decide between spy and faraday for russian.
Fate/Spyrex doesn't make sense to me. Especially given SpyreX's inviting of a nuke, I mean he probably knows Mina won't launch on him but.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #64) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:30 am

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HEY AV I SEE YOU ONLINE.


Interested in the Fate flip, Jack's town as town can be and if he somehow were to flip scum then fate's paragon of the year every year, but again, not happening.
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Post Post #2276 (isolation #65) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:40 am

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Faraday wrote:HEY WHO'D YOU GET A GUILTY ON AV?
^ you didn't answer my question.

i've also no idea what list you're talking about.
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Post Post #2278 (isolation #66) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:43 am

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dizzy was being scummy.

p sure i strongly implied suspicion of dizzy before that, but maybe not.
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Post Post #2289 (isolation #67) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:27 am

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V/la till tuesday, re-scheduled exams taking place.
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Post Post #2296 (isolation #68) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:13 pm

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Kit should nuke AV rit. I mean, Kit clearly can't be trusted with a nuke and Av's claimed scum so?
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Post Post #2323 (isolation #69) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:09 pm

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AurorusVox wrote:All I'll say is that he spells freedom with a hammer and a sickle.

Mina is very likely his partner, and Faraday is Chinese.
you're very bad @ being confirmed scum.
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Post Post #2324 (isolation #70) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:10 pm

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My preference is still for Faraday over Kitoari to nuke AurorusVox--and I'll have more to say on Faraday and AurorusVox in my next post
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #71) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:12 pm

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i don't see what your out of game nationality has got to do with this.
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Post Post #2328 (isolation #72) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:13 pm

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DON'T LIE TO ME.
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Post Post #2330 (isolation #73) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:17 pm

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Oh, okay. Sorry. I feel really bad about this whole thing now.

anyway off to drink alcohol. BEEN FUN.
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Post Post #2342 (isolation #74) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:26 pm

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I'll try and explain my chess town read a bit better tomorrow. I'm still pretty confident in it, I don't think he'd be so..blatant as to want to survive as scum, or at least don't think it's scummy. he's a bit of an odd cookie.
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Post Post #2343 (isolation #75) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:27 pm

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that plan looks good Av. very impressed.
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Post Post #2363 (isolation #76) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:16 pm

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chesskid3 wrote:at the risk of looking stupid on thursday
I trust AV
he smells more like teh great misslynch target than scum
av would never come out and play like this as town. he's either been knocked on the head repeatedly or more likely he's scum.

i'll give you a clue as to what one he is. no wait i won't :cop:
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Post Post #2364 (isolation #77) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:17 pm

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sharkfinn how much of the game have you read?
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Post Post #2365 (isolation #78) » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:20 pm

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Mina wrote:^*poof* go my rising good feelings about Faraday.

Bye-bye. Finito. No more. Faraday, welcome back to the top of my suspect list. You are listening to a plan from a player you yourself think is confirmed scum, without even working through the math yourself, when the purpose of that plan is to guarantee said confirmed scum player's survival for at least another day.

Instantly, without even reading his post, your kneejerk reaction (were you town) should be to laugh your ass off uncontrollably. It might be unfair, but it's human nature. I know you. You're not the type to blindly sheep someone. You wouldn't even give AurorusVox the benefit of the doubt as town. You'd have an instinctive "fuck off!" reaction.

But had you gone to the effort of evaluating AV's plan, the following quotes should be dead giveaways:
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aI stopped reading his post after the first sentence or 2. I was clearly joking though.
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Post Post #2420 (isolation #79) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:39 am

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im too pretty to be nuked. and town on top of that.

why does the FATE flip make you want to nuke me, fmpov at least there's stuff there that makes us obviously not buddies, and I'm not Chinese either that much should be apparent.
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Post Post #2422 (isolation #80) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:44 am

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I can nuke Av if you guys want, I guess. I don't feel like Mina's been that scummy, I don't think she's obvtown as many do as she's similar enough as both alignments. Kit is busy btw, I think he/she's flaked the whole site so that would explain a lot of the later behaviour, if not the earlier one. Shakfinn is odd, need a bit more from him.

I need to re-read her interactions with Fate, they don't actually strike me as a likely scumteam though.
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #81) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:59 am

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I'd never ask for anyone's opinion on who to vote for as scum. I don't see you or Jack doing that either, really. Has that code shown to be correct?

And I think you're right in that, that'd have to be Chinese. Rogue was inhim iirc.
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Post Post #2480 (isolation #82) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:04 pm

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Mina wrote:
One last quick point from my phone. It's my fault for putting off a massive case on Faraday explaining why I wanted him to nuke over SharkFinn, so that ship has probably sailed, but:

Faraday,
what
exactly have you done that rules you out as a Fate buddy, since you brought that up? IIRC, you never had much interaction--and his master plan only working if you're Russian is a major point against you. Am I forgetting something?
Well, while it's true we never had that much interaction I think there's things there that I'd never do with a scumbuddy. There's stuff where's he telling me to lift my game or he'll put me on his nuke list, first of all I'd be pissed at him saying that to me if we were scumbuddies, but I'd ignore it and not respond. There's also the fact my response to Kats nuking fate was pretty much calling kats confirmed scum. I think it's obvious I'm not chinese, as I'd never nuke my own scumbuddy.
See, my problem is that Faraday is more overtly protown than the Kitoari/SharkFinn slot (read: not making any idiotic arguments). But I know that he's a lot more level-headed as scum than town. He's been very passive and go-with-the-flow. For example, when the SX vs. Fate battle was going on, he didn't complain loudly about the stupidity of it (which he did in [REDACTED]). Instead, he ignored it until I called him
I didn't think it was stupid, Fate's nuke was very scummy and he was justifiably nuked. Plus I wasn't posting when the BATTLE was on, so I didn't read it till it was over and then didn't really care.
I don't know how to defend against me not being hot-headed enough. Well I fired off yesterday immediately, and I thought we could do with slightly more planning today. Patience isn't completely beyond me in games.
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Post Post #2482 (isolation #83) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:06 pm

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we're not lynching chesskid.
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Post Post #2483 (isolation #84) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:07 pm

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NICE KNOWING YOU AV
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Post Post #2490 (isolation #85) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:37 pm

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Jack wrote:
chesskid3 wrote:me
Link?
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=13445

I've modded her as town and scum, hydra'd with her too.
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Post Post #2491 (isolation #86) » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:43 pm

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And I find her hard enough to read, she walls regardless of alignment and is also unsure of herself regardless of alignment. AGOT has been a while, but I don't think she'd be scumbuddy's with fate based on what I know/think, but that's only based on 1 scum game of hers.
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Post Post #2509 (isolation #87) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:08 pm

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AV I'll miss your avatar.
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Post Post #2521 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:26 pm

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I think SpyreX could be the last Chinese, I've already looked at his interactions/mentions of Kat at the start of the day, check them, there's really nothing before the Fate nuke.
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Post Post #2522 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:27 pm

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Oh, actually he called out someone for not putting Kit/Kat on a lurkers list, that was all I remember but that's nothing.
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Post Post #2524 (isolation #90) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:29 pm

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I don't think it's Mina, wasn't dizzy as good a nuke target at that time, in fact chesskid was urging her to nuke dizzy. I mean Bobs would have been nuked too, probably but it may have meant another lynchee aka Av who from Mina's scum pov would be good.
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Post Post #2525 (isolation #91) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:30 pm

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Although Mina was on kat's list, but that's like VC analysis. I know when I'm scum I'm aware of common 1 buddy here things, when making lists. Kats would be too, I'd think.
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Post Post #2527 (isolation #92) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:01 pm

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THat's fair, I'm still curious as to what leaks she thought sounded like me and why she suspected me.

We have 2 active nukes in Mina and myself left anyway, don't we? That + the lynch should really wrap this up.
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Post Post #2529 (isolation #93) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:33 pm

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NOPE.
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Post Post #2563 (isolation #94) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:34 pm

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chesskid3 wrote:WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
Playesr
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say
D is scum randomly
A is my townpick
B nukes C
C nukes D
D nukes B
who cares when D fires, he's getting nuked by C.
If D is in defensive mode, A B D live, A and B lynch D for the win.
this is gg assuming we pick right (aka me)
if all nuke at the same time or close to it, it's a done deal. scum can't do anything about it, if they stray A aka townipick has a nuke (or is you)
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Post Post #2573 (isolation #95) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:46 pm

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I still think Jack's town, so I'd like to make sure there's no holes in this before we proceed but ya. GG? Scum should RESIGN.

Edit: Yep, that makes sense. We should give everyone a chance to check in I think first, as I don't believe there's a rush.

EDIT: NOPE that ruins the plan somewhat as we can have scorched earth.
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Post Post #2574 (isolation #96) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:47 pm

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wait nope it doesn't ruin plan as the nukes just go off against each other HM. hold on.
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Post Post #2593 (isolation #97) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:00 pm

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chesskid3 wrote:yeah but
Sole survivor is so much cooler
fuck yeah son. I'd be a motherfucking BOSS.
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #98) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:17 pm

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COASTING? I CALL IT CONCEALED AGRESSION.
I don't believe in trying to be Batman (*not mentioning names* ) and impulsively nuking anyone who I can't get lynched because I'm sooo much smarter than the lowly masses.
Agreed though, fucking hate people like that. Oh. (I don't think I'm smarter, but the rest is very applicable)
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Post Post #2615 (isolation #99) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:49 pm

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sharkfinn man why u gotta be like this. stop hatin' on me like i'm some sort of scum.
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Post Post #2629 (isolation #100) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:50 am

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[quote[The only thing we can't do is have ONE nuke launched because if the other nuker is scum then game.[/quote]


talking about me and Mina, sorry i'm skimming, but that's no different than chess's plan I guess, in that if I'm town we're doing okay anyway.
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Post Post #2635 (isolation #101) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:56 pm

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chesskid link to a scum game of yours plz
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Post Post #2638 (isolation #102) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:07 am

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THAT'S A NICE FUCKING LINK.

barring some shocking revelation there chesskid's still my most confident town read. jack/mina are next, sharkin and spyrex then on about the same level I guess. dunno.
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Post Post #2669 (isolation #103) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:15 am

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I prefer the earlier plan that guaranteed a victory if chesskid/me were town, no one else seems to find chess as town as I though.

What happens if we no lynch today, we've 3 active nukes tomorrow (we can assume I die, in this case I'd suggest)
Jack
SpyreX
Chesskid
Mina
Sharkfinn

we can make it go to a sole survivor here I guess too, it's basically a case of picking 1 townie out of 4 and we win. Sounds so easy in theory.
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Post Post #2670 (isolation #104) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:16 am

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i don't think sharkfinn is scum. caps lock thing looks like joking around. i think it's spyrex who's chinese.
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Post Post #2671 (isolation #105) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:16 am

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is there anything i'm missing in leaks etc which would make spyrex unlikely to be chinese?
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Post Post #2673 (isolation #106) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:26 am

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there's also easier targets to attack if he's scum, and it serves no purpose for him as scum to try and paint me as chinese, I at least assume as chinese scum he'd have skimmed the game areas around his buddies. not to say it makes him town, it's just not scummy at this point.
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Post Post #2701 (isolation #107) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:55 pm

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I really don't think will end it (if it does just ignore the rest of the post)

If not Mina then SpyreX, I think. Good luck tomorrow, I doubt I'll be around.
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Post Post #2702 (isolation #108) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:55 pm

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cliff-notes (LOL) @ mina?
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #109) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:04 pm

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ME if you're unable to read.
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Post Post #2715 (isolation #110) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:08 pm

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you could never nuke me ::D (well not without a case, you'd at least let me respond I think)
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Post Post #2716 (isolation #111) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:10 pm

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the only reason i suspect jack is b/c PARANOIA but that's it hmm. eh it's probably spyrex or sharkfinn. kit/kat/bobs scumteam would be so funny.
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Post Post #2724 (isolation #112) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:55 pm

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SpyreX wrote:
how about you don't fucking do this? HUH
What?

Thats exactly what he should be doing.

If mina doesn't end the game go back to the checklist.

Nuke to start.

God will sort it out.
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Post Post #2727 (isolation #113) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:57 pm

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sharlfinn nukes spyrex
spyrex nukes ??

that leaves 2 alive, that's really suboptimal but i don't see a way to avoid it now.
oh wait lynch HERP DERP

mina i didn't think you were scum(well unlikelyish at least)
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Post Post #2729 (isolation #114) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:07 pm

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it fails obv, she's dead when the hammer hits.
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Post Post #2739 (isolation #115) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:03 pm

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Mina wrote:Well.

This has been a very *twitch* interesting...*twitch* amusing.... fun-filled *twitch* Mafia experience....

*twitch*

*twitch*

*twitch* *twitch* *twitch*

GG, team who isn't me.
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Post Post #2741 (isolation #116) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:06 pm

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mina's twitching. only scum would do that
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Post Post #2742 (isolation #117) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:07 pm

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SharkFinn wrote:You havent flipped. We dont know if we're wrong.

And the only people who i say are town atm are jack and chesskid3. THe moment i saw that faraday bombed the first Chinese is when i promoted him ahead of you mina. I hammered you because i didnt want to nuke yet. NO NUKING FOR YOU!!!

I want a 4p day tomorrow. Not 3.
wtf is this. i'm promoted b/c i'm not scum obviously.
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Post Post #2746 (isolation #118) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:09 pm

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when someone says GG team that isn't me when they've been lynched i assume they're scum.


edit: AHHHH THE NUMBERS LOL.
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Post Post #2747 (isolation #119) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:10 pm

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also I always assume the worst? wtf i'm a super positive person. actually not sure about that now that i think of mafia.
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Post Post #2748 (isolation #120) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:12 pm

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Mina look on the brightside..time to catch up on other games (sorry, I'm only teasing really)
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Post Post #2751 (isolation #121) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:15 pm

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Mina town would never post that so :HAPPY:
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Post Post #2752 (isolation #122) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:16 pm

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you guys still /in for ASOS mafia? (I could pm BUT)
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Post Post #2755 (isolation #123) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:17 pm

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yes.
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Post Post #2759 (isolation #124) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:18 pm

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lucky i'm a better mod than player or no one would join my games (still nuked katsuki fuck yeah)

edit:: Chinese American? immigration/emmigration shenigans perhaps
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Post Post #2761 (isolation #125) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:23 pm

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well i can't change the name, but pretending the second never happened is fine. hey i just noticed your sig, no problem it was
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Post Post #2762 (isolation #126) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:23 pm

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bobsnox barely counts btw.
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Post Post #2766 (isolation #127) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:30 pm

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Mina wrote:
Faraday wrote:bobsnox barely counts btw.
You may just be a teensy bit slow on the uptake. :P
STOP FLAMING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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Post Post #2768 (isolation #128) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:32 pm

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I so badly wanted to be the sole survivor too :( lol

edit : lost part 2, too. although i played with an alt there.
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Post Post #2769 (isolation #129) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:32 pm

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I'm very easy to read though.
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Post Post #2772 (isolation #130) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:41 pm

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she does that regardless of alignment >_>
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Post Post #2774 (isolation #131) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:42 pm

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i remembered, it was mentioned a few pages ago. jack then confirmed he asked you to do it so it was meh.
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Post Post #2775 (isolation #132) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:43 pm

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bobsnox and kats both played badly though. (surprised there wasn't more people on kats, her first list was laughable)
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Post Post #2778 (isolation #133) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:47 pm

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kitaori's move didn't seem scummy, no idea why people thought that at all. just stupid. and she flaked her modded game so obv overburder is obv.
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Post Post #2780 (isolation #134) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:51 pm

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this makes up for the last game with VUVUZELA
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Post Post #2784 (isolation #135) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:54 pm

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dead chat would be fun.

idc about quicktopics so much. man I'd hate to be scum in these games, i'd be way too lazy to come up with any sort of code.
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Post Post #2786 (isolation #136) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:57 pm

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also this was a very enjoyable game for me. i got to nuke someone so. will probably nom it when I can be bothered. gg and thanks for modding.

WAIT VV WAS SCUM???? LOL EVEN FUCKING BETTER.
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Post Post #2788 (isolation #137) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:57 pm

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watching eh? stalker >_>
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Post Post #2793 (isolation #138) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:00 pm

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Mina wrote:I don't know if "enjoyable" is the word I'd use, considering I spent most of it curled up in a fetal position...but, um, it was fun scheming and pretending I had more than a prayer in hell of winning.
lmao.
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Post Post #2794 (isolation #139) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:00 pm

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skip defcon 1-4 next time.
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Post Post #2799 (isolation #140) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:16 pm

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I really did think Faraday was AV's buddy, and actually did keep procrastinating a big case on him when Fate's implosion caught my attention instead.
OH GOOD. better than than an easy target. I sort of wifom'd myself out of suspecting you b/c if someone nuked me I'd probably nuke them right back.
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Post Post #2800 (isolation #141) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:19 pm

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and didn't read the thread as carefully. But sadly, I guess my town self doesn't look as townish as chesskid
Very few are as town as chesskid (i've still not read his scum game, maybe at a later date)
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Post Post #2802 (isolation #142) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:25 pm

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you suspected me though F- on that :P
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Post Post #2804 (isolation #143) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:31 pm

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same. glad percy's good with codes though.
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Post Post #2815 (isolation #144) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:59 pm

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Faraday, why do you think I was so eager to get you to nuke first? I'd thought I'd pretty much claimed scum with this post, but that's actually an accurate description of why I played terribly today. My problem is I tend to waffle and freeze up under pressure as scum, so I don't play well unless I have a comfortable margin of error.
I thought you were just being self deprecating as usual :P As for freezing under pressure well, you should have been under no pressure here you'd nothing to lose as the chinese scum were so bad. In general though just don't get so wound up, I guess? I mean your waffling makes you look town (imo) too.

And nope there was no way out of this for you, really. I rarely bus as scum, let alone nuke a fellow scumbuddy so, I think I was pretty damn clear. Chesskid was obvtown too.
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Post Post #2817 (isolation #145) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:00 pm

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Katsuku wasn't an unlikely suspect. I guess the next time says I'm an impulsive moron who doesn't think before posting, I'll just say thanks though.
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Post Post #2818 (isolation #146) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:01 pm

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i'll nom this game when 2011 thread goes up, btw.
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Post Post #2830 (isolation #147) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:08 pm

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^ NICE ATTITUDE. you could have nuked someone cmon, wtf. that's reason enough to be EXCITED.
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Post Post #2832 (isolation #148) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:08 pm

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MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE TRIED HARDER THIS GAME THEN IF IT'S NOT BAD.

also chesskid being labelled as a vi confuses me. we'll make an epic hydra.
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Post Post #2837 (isolation #149) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:12 pm

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I'm just happy I got to nuke scum. 100% record. Oh yeah. Of course Mina has a 100% record too but still.
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Post Post #2840 (isolation #150) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:17 pm

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that is true. i'd have been so angry to have a nuke stopped. course i'd also have been mad to have been nuked, murder them in their beds mad >_>
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Post Post #2885 (isolation #151) » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:05 am

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My list contained sub and then a silo. I wanted the sub so bad.
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Post Post #2912 (isolation #152) » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:24 pm

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In the mean time, I apologize for pushing AV so hard to be nuked first. In retrospect, I should have tried to nuke Faraday first (claiming he HAD to be Russian)--or hell, even caved to SX's pressure and nuked him (I didn't realize it would be my only chance ;_;). But the alternate plan seemed to be for me to be nuked first. And I fell too much into a townie mindset and backed myself into a corner. It was hard to push a scum agenda AND be the towniest player in the game at the same time, so I ended up failing at both.
On the last day? I'd have nuked you right back like a boss. Av pretty much claimed scum in his first post of the day, so yeah there was no way you could have justified a nuke on anyone not him at that point I think. maybe.
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