Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Ythan]

lol

I never thought about it that way. Maybe your play today isn't so useless after all!

Wait, you mean lol isn't actually a contribution? Don't say that, it would mean that my dear friend Nikanor whom I love and respect is full of shit and doesn't put any effort into actually making a point!

[Ythan]

Exactly.

[Ythan]

I'm only at the morning scene so far. Fate kills Tripod, gets killed back, JABOC commits suicide?

[Ythan]

Can we get a mass "I do/do not know anything about OoT" claim?

[Ythan]

It is possible that the witches had an ability to combine into Twinrova, or that now that they have been defeated they have and are still able to participate, as in the game.

[Ythan]

Nik's suspicion of neighbors who don't suspect their neighbors is sound and is a good thread to follow.

[Ythan]

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Because I want to know whether the horrible flavor speculation I occasionally see is from people who sincerely don't know shit about Zelda or not.

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I know why you disagree but I disagree.

[Ythan]

I'm not sure now how serious it was but when I saw someone else suggest that there might be another pair of witches it made me rage.

[Ythan]

Anyone else suspicious that substrike hasn't been posting at all today?

Smells like scum if you ask me.

Seriously, some of the worst most obviously scummy coattailing I've ever seen.

[Ythan]

This isn't spectacularly important, but I think Mafuyu has a posting restriction that forces her to speak in 3rd person. Maybe she's Tingle. END OF SPECULATION.

Tingle isn't in OoT.

[Ythan]

Nik: your point on sages being scum if they have not attacked another sage is pure shite. There is a block of players of which the majority is probtown. At this point in the game there are bigger scum to fry than those with possible sleeper prs.
Your insistence on lynching you over the others has also been noted.

OHOHO WHAT HAVE WE HERE you sure are attacking Nik hard for this. You clearly don't get the argument, either. Or you're just attacking him because, you know. Your craziness has been noted.

[Ythan]

The other possible explination is that Exilon fake claimed Zelda, and never actually investigated me. Hence, he never visited me, and that is why he is still alive.

Just throwing that out there, in the event that there is no shift discovered.

lol

Three letters sum it up better than a paragraph could.

[Ythan]

sorry forgot about this game almos, been busy this week.

i told you guys fate was scum! ythan is his buddy clearly, if you read back you see that they never suspected eachotehr once and were trying to lead town!

plz vote for ythan today fate being scum should be enoough you guys should listen to me now. i wish my roll wasnt so dumb and i could vote

Reck said I would know who Navi was as soon as they posted. And Navi is an obnoxious useless twat. Hmm...

[Ythan]

That was a block post full of nothing. Good job Substrike.

Please make an effort to actually address it instead of just being a hair better than Aikage.

[Ythan]

The miller flavor refers to the bosses as former scum, in a sense. Maybe the game is taking place after the seven years have passed. After all, Koume and Kotake, sages sealed in the Sacred Realm, etc. In that case perhaps the first three bosses (Gohma, Dodongo, Barinade) are truly millers and the others (Phantom Ganon, Volvagia, etc, Twinrova) are not.

[Ythan]

Also Shiek.

[Ythan]

Where did I say I dislike it. Oh right I didn't you don't know what you're talking about.

[Ythan]

Is this the game where I

haven't

been consistently reiterating that I don't dislike flavor speculation? It isn't?

[Ythan]

Where did I say I dislike it. Oh right I didn't you don't know what you're talking about.

I knew there was a reason for why I started ignoring you.

Is it because you're full of shit and don't take a shine to backing up your statements when they are seen to directly contradict evidence in the thread? Probably?

[Ythan]

Don't worry, as soon as you show where I said I dislike flavor speculation this will all blow over.

[Ythan]

Shifts are retarded and ruin everything.

[Ythan]

Ythan:

Same question. Yesterday you were pretty adamant about lynching LLD or LC; since they are part of an alignment-confirmed masonry (and you’ve even agreed with Nik once, which nearly caused me to choke), what are your reads today?

Just keep track of my posts and I think you'll know who I suspect. Probably. I don't know you.

[Ythan]

And by everything I mean games and not strategies. We're going to spend all of our time until the shift is dealt with fretting about the shift and it's not going to be an ounce of fun.

[Ythan]

When DT was talking about allowing chess to vanillize he both argued that it should be done because it offers a statistical advantage to town and that scum would allow it to occur rather than block it because that offered a statistical advantage to scum.

[Ythan]

vote blooderection

I'm gonna leave this here for right now.

[Ythan]

I think Aikage might be an alt. Possibly of the mods.

[Ythan]

2. Exlion, considering that you claimed

day cop and you now have a frog that is acting like a snitch reads as super pro-town

. It confirms your day-action, therefore AWESOMESAUCE. Frog-snitch person is very pro-town because there would be no scum motivation to

make your actions confirmable publically

.

I missed where we got any explanation of the frog other than from Exilon himself.

[Ythan]

DTM, was that line directed at me intended to say that VTs are better players?

[Ythan]

You're saying that the action will affect anyone who votes for the target for the rest of the day..?

[Ythan]

Instead of just doing what Nik says because he said it you should at least bring it up with the mod first.

[Ythan]

So is Lady L just checking out from doing anything at all in this game until the shift is all sorted out, whenever in the game that might be? Is this awesome because she won't post or not because it's a TERRIBLE WAY TO PLAY MAFIA.

[Ythan]

Or just don't post.

[Ythan]

2. Exlion, considering that you claimed

day cop and you now have a frog that is acting like a snitch reads as super pro-town

. It confirms your day-action, therefore AWESOMESAUCE. Frog-snitch person is very pro-town because there would be no scum motivation to

make your actions confirmable publically

.

I missed where we got any explanation of the frog other than from Exilon himself.

Maybe whoever put the frog on him doesn't want to come out because they don't want to out themselves.

And so he must be super town and it confirms his action..how?

[Ythan]

Your post reads as "frog tells us his results" but I'm not seeing that.

[Ythan]

How do I cop someone safely while a shift/no-shift is possible? We had all agreed first we figure the shift, then I daycop.

In any case, the frog is giving me some bad vibes. Mainly because of the cuckoo from Day 1, but also because of the flavour in the PM, since it said it might 'snitch' at me. Whatever that is supposed to mean.

Not only that, but for me to have a frog means that someone targetted me. And if someone targetted me, either that person knows about the shift, or there is no shift. Which leads to some other implications, but let's leave this at that.

Sounds like someone wants a few extra days without confirming his claim.

[Ythan]

My only thought is that I know of no

blind

character in OoT.

[Ythan]

I've got a hunch who you might be but is there a reason to get into this? I think no.

[Ythan]

Since it's a thread you can check.

[Ythan]

The fact that you're just bringing that up now is kind of completely retarded btw.

[Ythan]

Wrong. It's still retarded that you're raising this concern now that it's too late. You weren't doing shit to prevent the lynch.

[Ythan]

Complaining about it after the fact, claiming that you were aware of this beforehand, and you didn't do anything to prevent it.

[Ythan]

Is everyone pretty aware that having him at least try today is better than just totally not using his ability at all?

[Ythan]

To be fair, it was gandalf and shotty. But I'm pretty sure I objected to it at the time.

Pretty sure we can look at older posts (remember when I told you to do this?), and I did look, and you didn't.

[Ythan]

All we have is the word snitch, unless I missed something.

[Ythan]

And to me that's not an unreasonable interpretation but it is an unreasonable assumption.

[Ythan]

Telling people to think of new things without proposing anything is fluff and stalling.

[Ythan]

Hm, Ruto.

[Ythan]

Uh Jester would not get a fake role pm, would they?
Also my power is better used _LATER_ when I have a better chance of not hitting a town pr

One, why are you still talking about jesters. Two, nice change of tone on when you should use your ability.

[Ythan]

I don't really know how to make the question any more plain.

[Ythan]

I see no reason for us to believe that a jester wouldn't get a fake role PM.

[Ythan]

You asked a pointless and inane question. There's your answer to it. Whatever you're trying to do please try to do it better.

[Ythan]

I expect that boss scum will have EXACTLY five members.

[Ythan]

I stated earlier that I suspect the bosses from the adult portion of the game might be a scum team and those from the child portion millers.

Bunny, I hadn't thought of your first Twinrova theory. Not bad.

[Ythan]

Dead Hand is a miniboss.

[Ythan]

Aikage is more useless than anyone else I have ever played with.

[Ythan]

And Vezok is IioA.

[Ythan]

Beef is arguing that it's okay if chess hits town because town is way more powerful than scum for some reason. I don't know if he realizes that scum all have powers too.

[Ythan]

Why do you think he's scum and not vig bait?

[Ythan]

It's an almost 30 player no vanilla game. Stop fishing and use your head.

[Ythan]

Because he's better than you.

[Ythan]

Aikage is also vig bait. Play as bad as his does not reflect on alignment. Although, he might just be Navi and if so might be an alt.

[Ythan]

This is possible. iirc every crazy Reck game I know of has had a lyncher. If he were a lyncher, though, that means he doesn't even have to be on the wagon to win (because he has no vote). I know lynchers often must be on the wagon to win but I don't know just how pervasive that is?

[Ythan]

That is a very specific assumption.

[Ythan]

Why the most likely? It's an oddly specific theory.

[Ythan]

One, good point Lady but I need to check what we have on his voteless status. Chess, being confirmable in death does not make you not-vig-bait.

[Ythan]

Aikage is in VCs. Why do we think he is voteless. A claim only?

[Ythan]

Apparently his vote on Mafuyu didn't show up in the count.

[Ythan]

Good thing you're not the vig then ha ha

ha ha

[Ythan]

If I recall correctly it is an acronym.

[Ythan]

It is possible that someone else controls his vote. Would there be any downside to having that player claim if town?

[Ythan]

I don't think that matches up with the counts. Open mind please; I believe I'm still voting for BE, but there's no sense in attempting to fit him as scum in as the answer to every question.

[Ythan]

A claim and then a vig shot would be best. If he's lucky the claim might make a vig think twice.

[Ythan]

Substrike can die today. It's pointless to get as deep as I like to right now with, what, twenty five players and long ass days. I'm sufficiently comfortable with his wagon for this point in the game.

[Ythan]

Chess is a good night vig target.

[Ythan]

I think that chess's play makes sense within the context of his value as a player. I see no reason to think that he is a jester.

[Ythan]

An inexplicable and completely useless IioA post from vezok indeed.

[Ythan]

I think that chess's play makes sense within the context of his value as a player. I see no reason to think that he is a jester.

I think I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, and hoping that his play is due to his role.

I see no reason to do so. Bad player makes a lot more sense.

[Ythan]

To make a point?

[Ythan]

Not participating in the QT is anti-town.

[Ythan]

Aikage is not a good lynch, he is a good kill.

[Ythan]

...

Masonries and neighborhoods have QTs.

[Ythan]

Thanks for pointing out the obvious chess but that isn't really relevant to his question.

[Ythan]

gg

[Ythan]

I'm confirmed town.

[Ythan]

I think it's strange that you're still saying you generally don't like what I've done but I apparently give good points.

AKR you might try reading each individual player in iso. You can do just a few at a time. That's how I catch up.

[Ythan]

It makes it go by much more easily.

[Ythan]

Confirmed to be a sage. Sages are a neighborhood. Since there are so many of them, as well as a mason group, we're pretty sure at least one neighbor is scum.

[Ythan]

I question the frog because we only know what it does if Exilon, the player it's on, is telling the truth.

[Ythan]

Confirmed to be a sage. Sages are a neighborhood. Since there are so many of them, as well as a mason group, we're pretty sure at least one neighbor is scum.

I think I misread his post then, but I would still like him to explain it.

You may want to clarify what you're asking before he gets around to answer, then, because it looks to me like you're asking why one would want to lynch a not-confirmed player. Answer, he's scummy.

[Ythan]

Wasn't there supposed to be snitching?

[Ythan]

Too bad it doesn't list his shifted target.

[Ythan]

Is who confirmed town?

[Ythan]

Aikage is voteless, or was at one point. Calling him a townie is unwise. Also I agree about the shift. I'm not going to play assuming the shift is even more complicated than the one in Mad Mind. If it is then the game will already suck so.

[Ythan]

Lady you don't know the game. Gohma does not lay frog eggs. It lays

gohma larva eggs

. The things that hatch out, apart from not being one of the more frog-looking creatures in the game, are called gohma larvae if you ask Navi. There is nothing froggy about them.

[Ythan]

Animals prob come from a joat. That's why we'll see one of each.

[Ythan]

I already covered why the three childhood bosses are unlikely to all be town, kthx. Gohma AND Barinade were both life sucking creatures from the abyss. There's nothing exactly pro-hyrule about them.

This is a really poor argument. All the bad guys are bad so they'll probably be bad. No. Try again.

[Ythan]

Anyway, substrike's starting to read town to me, even if his reads aren't necessarily correct.

Moving along to next on the scumreads:

unvote, vote: BE

Substrike is the lynch today and you are looking likely for tomorrow.

[Ythan]

Players please notice Ray's efforts to bus Substrike but then take the first opportunity to move to another wagon.

[Ythan]

What is that like six votes?

unvote

No. BE may be lynched but it won't be today.

[Ythan]

LL you're all saying that with a sample population of 1. (2 if we include today) There's no way to verify the shift hit a miller, it could've hit anyone on that list. I've heard all the OMG pay attention arguments. I'm just not buying all of them at face value.

Then let's lynch scummy players until we're able to get more samples.

vote Substrike22

[Ythan]

Want to know the problem with your counter? The reason you thought the childhood bosses would be town was

link was invading their territory and they were actually just innocent defenders of what they had

.

Except that wasn't me, genius.

[Ythan]

Players please notice Ythan's efforts to maintain the substrike lynch while taking the first opportunity to attack me, which happens to coincide with my attacking blooderection while ythan fails to actually present anything of worth to the thread that goes beyond flavor based argumentation for a while now.

Considering that you just started what I'm attacking you over this is a piss poor way to defend yourself. I think they call it NO U.

[Ythan]

I post at different times of day, and my mind shuts off and turns on. :/ I post as thoughts come to me, regardless of thinking them through.

No shit.

[Ythan]

I thought there were two neutrals.

I didn't read the entire role. What the fuck is a Plant killer??? I stopped there and didn't read Lover.

So you didn't even read the flips and said they should be revived. Not wait for town flips but revive the "neutral" flips you didn't even read. Are you kidding me?

[Ythan]

Scummy =/= vigbait. Scummy players are obviously fine targets for vigs but vigbait is useless anti-town players.

[Ythan]

Between scummy and anti-town?

[Ythan]

Should I tap any button?

[Ythan]

Between scummy and anti-town?

targets for vigs and vigbait

Vigbait typically means someone who should be vigged so that the town can focus on scummier players for the lynch. So someone who isn't conventionally scummy.

[Ythan]

Good. On the off chance that anyone can counterclaim that it would be a good time to do so.

[Ythan]

You're asking a question I don't want answered. Because there's no reason to ask right now.

[Ythan]

Still reading, on page 85. Has Ythan explained why he assumed all bosses were millers? If not, he's about to get my vote.

What are you even talking about?

[Ythan]

I believe they may be millers. I have never said I believe all bosses are millers. AKR needs to read better.

[Ythan]

'They' meaning the three early bosses.

[Ythan]

Tell me what post you read that made you think I believed all bosses were millers. Shouldn't be hard for you since you seem to have just recently read it.

[Ythan]

I thought she meant "(this) game knowledge" and I still agreed.

[Ythan]

That's strange because I just isoed you and it isn't there.

[Ythan]

Interesting.

[Ythan]

Are you saying that that post you just quoted by jmj is the one that made you think I believed all bosses to be millers?

[Ythan]

1. No, because Exilon might have a real guilty (i.e. the shift is up and he has a guilty on mothrax). Thus Exlion's ambition = scum land mine. If there is a shift occurring, we need to

verify what direction it is going which will help pull information from yesterday's investigation from both Exilon and Nikanor's cop on Chess and verify Exilon's next action for today since he is a day cop

Also your day-protect would have been submitted for the day-action for your PGO to work in that case, which is seriously stretching it (but not implausible)

2. What I also note is that

Bosses = scum in terms of faction,

which makes sense due to the two miller claims. If this the case I want to point out the previous questions I asked the sages to think about in terms of who they are targeted for with their seals with this new information that

boss = scum

. Which brings the question: someone mentioned bosses out of the blue before in my notes (which bugs me).

3. PGO = paranoid gun owner. Anyone who targets a PGO is shot and killed, therefore it's a reflex killing role. Hence the claim yesterday.

4. Nikanor: Finally your point. Wouldn't they just be operating under the assumption then on who they think is scummy in general? Ihmo I slightly see your point on how scum neighbors are more likely to be biased in their natures of their suspects but we are falling into the meta trap surrounding neighbors (which again was one of many reasons that invite 7 fell through at the wagons). I would rather observe their overall scum hunting portfolio that they present rather then focus on this insight in terms of the neighbourhood.

I see it, but only as a part of the solution. Ihmo in the case of substrike, he has other reasons besides neighbourhood analysis to be seen as scummy. Plus you know with players like Chronopie we are not dealing with ideal situations and there are other stronger tells that define a person's scuminess versus their anti-town play style. (Case and point GIS hydra).

If not this post then what?

[Ythan]

You need to actually explain yourself, which you aren't doing. I'm not seeing any justification for your attack. Being wrong is one thing but not being able to show how you came to the conclusion you stated is not.

[Ythan]

He doesn't have to have had proof. I just want to see why he came to the conclusion. And I'm not.

[Ythan]

Italics are not a great way to make text stand out.

[Ythan]

What about recent posting should people weigh in on. I'm sure you mean it and that you must have a specific idea in mind. Or am I mistaken?

[Ythan]

What about recent posting should people weigh in on. I'm sure you mean it and that you must have a specific idea in mind. Or am I mistaken?

I do have a specific idea in mind. Getting people to weigh in on what people have said recently, such as AKR's, beefster's, and our posts is beneficial. Stances and reasoning is always a plus. Outside of that, there's something not clicking in my mind that is bothering me, and I'm hoping that seeing others' thoughts will help with the train of thought.

I'm just going to assume you tacked that last bit on to fill out your post.

[Ythan]

I don't quite get what you are getting at with that.

I'm saying you're just asking people to talk for no real purpose. You can take that as a fluffy active lurking accusation.

[Ythan]

Shut up Navi.

If you paid any attention you would know...anything.

And please don't get your brother to replace if he's anything like you.

[Ythan]

u mad?

[Ythan]

Substrike, BE, whatever. Let's just pick one for today and move on to tomorrow with one less scummy player.

[Ythan]

You people throw around jester and lyncher accusations way too frivolously. There's no reason to think BE is a lyncher and not just scum.

[Ythan]

Beefster interested in lynching lynchers instead of scum hmmmmmmmmm

Lynchers are scum.

Also this BE wagon is taking off really quick.

[Ythan]

One can speculate something while believing something else is more likely. I read beefster's post as "this is possible, but I think he's more likely to be scum"

But did he say that? No.

[Ythan]

Ythan post #3: True. I still don't find his post scummy.

If your reasoning for not finding it scummy falls through then why not?

[Ythan]

If the day is almost over, how clear are we on the shift?

[Ythan]

We're all PRs here. We need to understand the shift going into night.

[Ythan]

You didn't explain one thing about the shift at night actually. Also good job covering your bases now so you can come right out of the gate on whatever wagon starts up when the shift is uncovered.

[Ythan]

Maybe you should read the whole sentence and you won't need to ask.

[Ythan]

@Ythan: What od you think of RayFrost?

My posts.

1. Ythan: I believe that if someone is a boss-miller, it stands to say that boss = scum. Also we have a boss-cop claim that looks for boss-scum.

That's my assumption as well.

Note to self: why did most of the people who I presented attacks to, ie. Moth and Dekes disappear right now? It's kind of hard when I have so many cases pending from responses.

They didn't disappear

right now

.

[Ythan]

I believe he also buddied me. Since I'm not scum I disagree with the validity of your third point.

And yeah, besides that chess is right.

[Ythan]

If he buddies players of all alignments, how does one of the people he buddied flipping scum affect your read?

[Ythan]

I don't know how much experience you have with CAPS LOCK ALLIANCE but that's pretty much how it works. Certain players type in all caps and buddy really hard regardless.

[Ythan]

I can't say that they are not scum but I can say that the buddying is probably just CLA.

[Ythan]

What does scum have to gain from buddying that blatantly anyway? I don't see it as scummy for them to pal around and yell.

[Ythan]

It isn't WIFOM. I'm disputing that the buddying is scummy because why would scum do it?

[Ythan]

Why would scum do it. What do they have to gain or what in being scum would make someone do that.

[Ythan]

2. Ythan, they've been largely inactive all day. Doesn't help that a large number of people are inactive. This presents lots of noise where there shouldn't be since lurker-scum blends with anti-town lurkers.

And yet you singled them out and said that they were more or less hiding from your attack when that is clearly not the case.

[Ythan]

I'm still criticizing your attempt to spin their flakiness as avoiding your argument.

[Ythan]

Moth if that's true then he obviously hasn't seen it. Quit being difficult and point it out, and if you really have then it will settle it.

[Ythan]

I'm not a vig. I am Farore. The nature of my role, if not my role itself, should be obvious to anyone who knows the least bit about Farore.

I don't really want to read anything. I still want BE dead.

God damn you. I think. Maybe.

[Ythan]

I'm not a vig. I am Farore. The nature of my role, if not my role itself, should be obvious to anyone who knows the least bit about Farore.

I don't really want to read anything. I still want BE dead.

God damn you. I think. Maybe.

It's funny Ythan, because I think out of everyone here, you are the one who woul know what his power is.

I think that out of everyone here you claimed masons would probably know best. I have a guess but there's no way I can be sure. Duh.

[Ythan]

A pair of SKs would be an nth scum faction.

[Ythan]

eh, I'm not scum so i'm not even going to bother with that

Then you're just a bad player.

[Ythan]

"I'm not scum so I don't need to answer your questions" is one of the worst ways to play mafia.

[Ythan]

My earlier vote for BE, by the way, was because I was very uncomfortable on rereading him with his following me.

[Ythan]

We're lynching him today regardless of what he claims, but I still do want him to claim.

If you allow for no possibility of letting him live then you're just showing off here.

[Ythan]

Ellipses are scummy. So is doubting your confirmed mason partner.

[Ythan]

No shit you're behind. It's nice to see you fall off the face of the earth when you finally get out of almost being lynched for now.

[Ythan]

Ellipses are scummy.

I'll... Use ellipses.... All I.... Want.

Found scum. See you tomorrow.

[Ythan]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're a head that hasn't paid attention to the whole game and not a head that completely forgot the only thing you've ever done here. Thank you don't come again so you can be replaced by someone who isn't completely useless.

[Ythan]

There's no need to nth it. If he posts and it isn't a claim he gets hammered. If he doesn't post he gets hammered. If he posts and it's a claim it better be soon if he wants this to swing back to Sub.

[Ythan]

You targeted a player with a non-kill ability. The target died. Even though there were 28 players alive last night you assumed that you caused the kill and said so in the thread with no explanation. Aikage you are a moron.

[Ythan]

What will be really funny is when you use it and are no longer able to post.

[Ythan]

Morning.

[Ythan]

Why did Nikanor have to be the mason to die.

[Ythan]

Rereading is tech Ythan. He's dead, but he posted his scum reads.

This isn't relevant to anything in my posts.

And Cupcake, you have no reason to believe I had anything to do with the kill and are just mad I'm making fun of you for being useless.

[Ythan]

Oh look Cupcake didn't back up the comment and tacitly admits it was just another flavor of omgus.

[Ythan]

Oh look Cupcake didn't back up the comment and tacitly admits it was just another flavor of omgus.

Oh look ythan is discrediting with yet another OMGUS while avoiding providing a comment in the first place.

Let me know when you learn something other than OMGUS and AtE. Once again, it was nothing close to OMGUS.

You're not contributing anything. I can't complain too much since you haven't contributed anything from the start, but honestly, if all you're going to do is bitch and whine it would be best to just not post.

[Ythan]

Albert, how are all of the sages confirmed? I agree that boss scum is not in the sages but that doesn't confirm them all as town. Also do I remember someone saying that the sages would know when one of their group was unsealed?

[Ythan]

@DTM: You are the one who brought up 2 scumteams.

No, the mod did that with flips.

[Ythan]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p2635064

The part about the Poe's death, where it says "One of the Poe Sisters is dead", reads to me as there being more than 1 Poe sister.

Good catch. It may just be referring to the character, but it might be referring to one of a number of roles present in the game.

And damn I didn't realize Cupcake was one of those people who doesn't know what basic terms like OMGUS means and simply uses them to pepper their bitching or I wouldn't have even bothered.

[Ythan]

Did anyone else forget zwet was in this game?

last night i targeted ythan, since he didn't die my theory is maybe i can only kill bad people and when i target good people good things happen to them. did you get anything psecial last night ythan?

Why on earth would you try to kill me you childishly anti-town dolt.

[Ythan]

Sorry about that, Thanksgiving. Catching up.

[Ythan]

Ythan you are the antitown one, it is bad to be so rude to people. but im thinking your town still even tho your bein an ashole

It's too bad you'll never make a case because you're practically an empty slot. Whatever your alignment it's probably in your team's best interest that you just stop posting.

[Ythan]

They are lovers. And they don't make sense as boss scum. Twinrova is boss scum.

Why do they "not make sense"?

[Ythan]

List the internet. It came back.

[Ythan]

They are lovers. And they don't make sense as boss scum. Twinrova is boss scum.

Why do they "not make sense"?

3 members of the Boss scum would be members of the spirit temple in that scenario. There's 4 other temples.

Are you thinking for some reason that there's Koume/Kotake lovers AND Twinrova boss scum? Is this still an issue?

Chronopie - Nabooru

, Spirit Sage - Twinrova

"Saria"

Forest Sage - Gohma*

"Impa"

Shadow sage - Bongo Bongo

"Darunia"

Fire Sage - Volvagia

*That "Saria" needs to have Gohma dead, is the reason that I suspected "her". as it doesn't fit with the other sage's targets.

and I agree that, seeing as we def. had scum in the 'hood, they'll know it already.

In case this hasn't been explained and someone doesn't get it, Gohma is not an adult boss. It should be Phantom Ganon.

wow life has been really crazy. im startin to like dtm more and more the more i read his posts! i understand his case on beefster completely since it involves me.

Die in a fire. Not in-game.

EDIT: AWESOME AN AIKAGE WAGON

[Ythan]

More pages and still nothing that is supposed to happen has happened.

[Ythan]

Also Ythan who's taken a large backseat recently is different from his day 1 play. I dislike this change in Ythan. I can't tell if it's disinterest or simply he's lolozing at the stalling.

My semester just ended, which combined with a period of no internet whatsoever has had a slight impact on my ability to post.

[Ythan]

Ythan can you verify that Aikage gave you an invention?

I cannot verify that he did. But it was night one, right? I get why he thinks I'm confirmed town but he's wrong. There are factors he did not consider and I'm not going into that any further right now. I'm still town but he didn't think through his reasoning as to why I must be.

As for the claim, the role is believable. Alignment is up in the air but I'm satisfied for now.

[Ythan]

I highly doubt I got an invisible gift. It's certainly possible that night actions are randomized.

[Ythan]

Correction, it's a day ability. Since those seem to definitely be randomized he may have just missed. Even though I'm pretty sure we cleared the shift up.

[Ythan]

If DTM is scum, DTM deserves to live another day just for that. No scum would ever try that hard to prove this point.

Say you were joking so we can move on and not get hung up on this latest ridiculous post out of your corner.

[Ythan]

wait what are u guys taking about?? i thought in mafia that your sposed to vote during the day, action at night. why would i be doing stuff in the day. night 1 i sent fate invention A and i think i killed him an so i sent it to ythan the next night but he didnt die. i think im gonna check tonight what invention A does, that would be helpful

i agree so much w dtmastera bout beefster!! maybe akr isnt scum, hes voting beefster. im startin to think vezko is beefster's buddy bc he is the third vote on the wagon, that is scummy.

i will post mroe later, i need to go now

Idiot.

[Ythan]

I don't like that Argument KoC.

Why not? Honestly, for a confirmed player you have a bad habit of having said a lot of ridiculous stuff every time I check in.

[Ythan]

Noise. I'm just gonna read isos before they get too long.

[Ythan]

I am not nearly as up to date as I need to be for a day remaining. The top real wagon being at L-5 is not helping either.

vote aikage

[Ythan]

At this point if you don't vote for aikage there it is probably going to be a nl.

[Ythan]

I also put Ythan in there but I forgot why.

Because you're smart.

Kinda got lost in the random talk from ABR and LLD.

Yeah. No more of that please. LD why do you think both of you apparently confirmed masons are still alive?

Ythan. Lately he has gone into a lurking state. He has stop posting, rather it be to attack someone for their idiotness or to post his opinion. If you notice on Day 3, I believe he completely dies off. Waiting too see how he does today.

You're in for a treat.

Chrono, you is wrong, there are two sages left. Bongo bongo was substrikes target iirc.

Which sage was he supposed to be again? Bongo Bongo should have been Impa's target. Who exactly claims Impa?

bah, i hate all u guys

lol!

@DGB: YOU NEED TO REDO YOUR ANALYSIS, ORANGE IS SK

There were already three of them. Flavorwise I could also see Ganon being teamed up with them.

[Ythan]

Okay, good enough. I was suggesting that I'm starting to doubt (specifically your) confirmed status, but if it's something you're doing to keep yourself alive then that's enough for now. Don't need to know anymore; if scum's trying to kill you then they already know something is stopping them, but they don't need to hear what specifically. If your partner can just confirm as much as you said I'd like just that.

[Ythan]

If you want to show me how I could be scum, please do. I'm interested, but it is not required.

I'm not pursuing you because your role makes you about 95% absolute town in my book. In nineteen out of twenty cases I would let that sit. You say a lot of things, though, that rub me the wrong way hard enough to bring it up.

Bunny is a good lynch. I've been looking at him/beef/aikage (not necessarily as partners but as individually scummy scum). I found aikage to be the worst and so I focused on him, but today I'm going to take another crack at him.

[Ythan]

FoS: YThan

Attacking a confirmed mason? Yeah... How is that pro-town?

Why don't you make an effort when reading the thread and then you won't have to ask stupid questions.

[Ythan]

5. Ihmo: If LL and Cupcake weren't confirmed masons I'd attack them because for confirmed masons their play is awful all game. LL not so much now since she's showing more scum hunting ambition. Cupcake is just inactive, and has been for 2 game days.

My thoughts.

[Ythan]

Bunnylover is a scummy-null read.

what

[Ythan]

I am working on gathering a case on Ythan

So instead of following evidence to the player it indicates you're searching for evidence to indicate a particular player?

[Ythan]

I am still suspicious of Ythan, even though my try at making a case on him failed, but at the moment he has shown he is town, and I even believed he breadcrumbed a few time.

For fuck's sake. If every sign points to me being town look at someone else.

[Ythan]

Two top suspects are beef and bunny. Consider my vote to be on bunny.

[Ythan]

@Ythan: Why not just VOTE on BL? Afraid to bus?

Clearly, because calling my vote and not placing it sure would be a useful scum tactic. Oh sorry, that's retarded, I'll come up with a better explanation. You're my other top suspect and you have a wagon-affecting action.

[Ythan]

Pay attention you maroon. Not only do I not trust you but it has absolutely no bearing on the game whether I place my vote right now or just call it. Do something useful instead of whatever it is you think you're doing now.

[Ythan]

Bunny, then why are you focusing on me?

[Ythan]

As seen even earlier by a suspiciously specific mod confirmation of masons only.

[Ythan]

Beefster please talk about something other than pointless hypotheticals.