Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Le Cupcake]

/confirm

Vig zwet please. Damned noisemaker.

[Le Cupcake]

Vote: Diddin

Loser.

[Le Cupcake]

Hm.

Nah.

[Le Cupcake]

I take it you expect this attitude to further the information the town will gain on Day 1.

This seems strange.

VOTE: Substrike22

This is not random.

You may start if you so wish.


HAI CHRONO!!! How ever did you manage to guess?

[Le Cupcake]

Unvote, Vote JABOC

@Chrono: I blame my other half for stealing it. = =

[Le Cupcake]

wow this rvs sure is ending fast

Nice contribution.

SAME TO YOU!

[Le Cupcake]

EBWOP: Though I agree with what ythan said.

[Le Cupcake]

I know you have, ythan.

I couldn't resist that last post though.

P-EDIT: I disagree.

P-EDIT II: ...

[Le Cupcake]

Long story short, you ask for me to explain my vote, yet look at your own vote reasoning.

Not hard.

[Le Cupcake]

I've never played either... nor any other Zelda games for that matter.

[Le Cupcake]

= =

I've seen others play before.

And I think I may actually have it... but I never opened it... So its sitting there brand new I think

[Le Cupcake]

You're worse than zwet.

And need to be dealt with asap.
___

Miller claim for zwet is very much within the realm or normality. The CPR doc though takes it a step further. Intrigued am I. Zwet will get shot regardless. He is always either scum, or a liability for town at best.

[Le Cupcake]

No. Chronopie is :goodposting:.

LLD is town guys.

[Le Cupcake]

I would be quite fine with chess lynch, if only to eliminate all this noise.

It is irratatingly distracting.

[Le Cupcake]

My iso does not consist of 35 posts of BS anti-town statements.

Yours, on the otherhand, does.

[Le Cupcake]

Even though it is not, I shall play along.

Assuming that those 15 non-noise posts are, anti-town fluff like yours, it would still less than half of the shit that you've spewed from your mouth in a day.

p-edit: lol @ idea of fate being drmy/chesskid alt.

[Le Cupcake]

Considering it is a 28-person non-VT game, the benefits of losing chesskid far outweighs the consequences imo.

I would like if real scumhunting could occur.

@shotty: You've done some ridiculous things in the past though. At least I will say that you are not obnoxious like chesskid is.

[Le Cupcake]

Great flavor support. Blah blah blah = vanillarizer?

In the hands of chess, that's about as anti-town a role as you can have.

P-EDIT: NO ONE WILL CARE, BECAUSE GETTING RID OF YOU, WILL ALLOW US TO START SCUMHUNTING.

P-EDIT II: SO YOUR FLAVOR IS BLAH BLAH. RE: MY OPENING LINE IN THIS POST.

P-EDIT III: Go for it.

P-EDIT IV: More posts...

P-EDIT V: Good posting.

[Le Cupcake]

I'm sure you were telling the truth about "blah blah blah".

P-EDIT: Yep.

[Le Cupcake]

blah blah blah was that I would die but that I could choose two targets and vanillize them permanently. Thought that part was obv, sheesh.

The flavor to support your powers, dumbass.

P-edit: I wish I could understand alphabet mafia flavor.

[Le Cupcake]

Chesskid, the problem with you is not even lack of content. It is that, you are entirely a distraction to town. We've wasted pages over you and gotten no where in this game.

If you're not gonna be helpful, at least don't harm town, which is what you are doing.

0 is still a higher number than -infinity, which is around where you are at in terms of helpfulness to town.

P-EDIT: ninja'd by 20 posts. Whee

[Le Cupcake]

Oh hey

ythan is scum.

Just saying.

[Le Cupcake]

^YOU'RE ONE TO TALK ABOUT RENDERING USELESS, YOU RENDERED TODAY USELESS IN TERMS OF SCUMHUNTING.

[Le Cupcake]

EBWOP: In response to chesskid post.

p-edit: wow shit ppl stop posting for a sec?

[Le Cupcake]

^YOU'RE ONE TO TALK ABOUT RENDERING USELESS, YOU RENDERED TODAY USELESS IN TERMS OF SCUMHUNTING.

Nope, Ythan did with his tunneling.

That explains why there are 13 other votes on you?

[Le Cupcake]

[Le Cupcake]

So

Blooderection has a terrible scumdar. Can you restate why I'm scum as well?

FATE
OPEN YOUR EYES
I KNOW LLD IS PERMA-SCUMMY.

SHE IS TOWN THIS GAME.

[Le Cupcake]

How is that post scummy?

I disagree.

[Le Cupcake]

So

Blooderection has a terrible scumdar. Can you restate why I'm scum as well?

FATE
OPEN YOUR EYES
I KNOW LLD IS PERMA-SCUMMY.

SHE IS TOWN THIS GAME.

MOAR BAD POSTING.

"SHE IS ALWAYS SCUMMY. THIS TIME SHE IS TOWN THOUGH I CAN TELL I HAZ SECRETS"

FATE
HOW WELL YOU SUM UP WHAT I SAY.

P-edit: I disagree with your statement in regards to my post. You are saying that we should just ignore zwet? Because, if so, I highly disagree.

[Le Cupcake]

BE
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
GO AWAY.

[Le Cupcake]

BE
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
GO AWAY.

lolscumangry.

lolifyousayso.

[Le Cupcake]

FATE
YOU KNOW I LOVE MY CAPS

</3

[Le Cupcake]

and now we wait for mod-kill.

[Le Cupcake]

BE still posting terribly.

Good thing I can help him die.

[Le Cupcake]

Come to think of it, I have yet to see fate town play too.

Hrm.

[Le Cupcake]

Cupcake says hai, ythan.

[Le Cupcake]

BE

I hope you can play better than you did in alphabet.

[Le Cupcake]

FATE
DO I NEED MORE CAPS BEFORE YOU STOP POSTING RIDICULOUS IDEAS?

[Le Cupcake]

lulz

That was most definately not the only reason why you got lynched.

[Le Cupcake]

lulz

That was most definately not the only reason why you got lynched.

Why exactly do you want us lynched here? what was the reason again? Or should I say, why are you going to Night kill us?

Nice misrep. Especially right after I said that I hoped that your play this game would be better too.

[Le Cupcake]

BE

I hope you can play better than you did in alphabet.

[Le Cupcake]

BE

I hope you can play better than you did in alphabet.

You do realize that i was only lynched based on DGB's shoddy VC analysis... Right? Besides. this is a Hydra account. Not just BC.

Are we really going to do this again?

lulz

That was most definately not the only reason why you got lynched.

____________________

Now, I am quite curious as to who the "erection" side of the head is.

[Le Cupcake]

KEEP IT IN GUYS PT2 FATE.

[Le Cupcake]

I feel like Cupcake is holding a grudge.... for no real reason.

btw, feel like explaining this one for me?

Considering, ya know, I've never actually played with you before (unless playing with your inactive name counts).

[Le Cupcake]

Cupcake says hai, ythan.

[Le Cupcake]

I like how we have a dayvig.

But wasted shots are not appreciated.

[Le Cupcake]

He's something-proof. In the last game Reck allowed someone to be mod-somethinged and survive it due to a role immunity. His day-vig comment is a lie.

You're talking about reck's bastard mod?

I thought this game wasn't a bastard mod... Or at least was not "blatently" bastardly.

[Le Cupcake]

And Fate, he said he's not going to lie as he did in that game.

Hence, someone probably did try and dayvig me...

[Le Cupcake]

ALSO
DEAR VIG
DO NOT WASTE YOUR NIGHT SHOT ON ME EITHER

SAVE IT FOR THE ANTI-TOWNS ALA FATE'S LIST.

P-edit: WELL I'm sorry I have BE here who has a broken scumdar.

[Le Cupcake]

ALSO
DEAR VIG
DO NOT WASTE YOUR NIGHT SHOT ON ME EITHER

SAVE IT FOR THE ANTI-TOWNS ALA FATE'S LIST.

P-edit: WELL I'm sorry I have BE here who has a broken scumdar.

lol, we'll just have to lynch you tomorrow. Also, i like how you're trying to discredit all of our reads.

MORE MISREP.

I only said you. I said for vig to follow fate's list.

[Le Cupcake]

FATE
YOU ARE BEING MEAN TO ME.
I DO NOT LIKE THIS TREATMENT.

I
AM SURE YOU WILL FIGURE OUT
WHY
LLD
IS
TOWN

IF YOU WERE ELLI
YOU WOULD GET WHAT I AM SAYING.


P-EDIT: BE, IF YOU AND YOUR HEAD HAVE THE SAME READS THAT FATE LIST HAS, THEN PLEASE, START PLAYING TOWN.

I've been ninja'd at least 5 times now...

[Le Cupcake]

Pretty sure n.

Chesskid/cupcake scumteam.

...

That dayvig bullet would've been much more useful going to you.

P-EDIT: WHAT YTHAN SAID.
CUPCAKE HAS CLAIMED NOTHING.

[Le Cupcake]

Ythan
In the span of 5 pages or less, BE has already misrep'ed my posts at least 2-3 times.

Now, I wonder if I'd be getting town vibes from someone like that.

Yeah, no.

P-Edit: cupcake hasn't tunneled anyone. Do you need a lesson like chess as to what tunneling is? Ythan posted a nice wiki link a while back.

[Le Cupcake]

EBWOP: Cupcake tunnel statement in respose to BE.

Ninja count: 4

[Le Cupcake]

Holy Shit... Ythan... you're not voting Chesskid... why?

BE is evidently not reading.

P-edit: Ythan did.

Ninja count: 5

[Le Cupcake]

BE

I will answer that when my other head gets a chance to read the thread. I think it got to pg6 or something.

Our Read:
chess - My other head agrees to highly disliking said player and wants lynch. Only comment from other head thus far.

[Le Cupcake]

...

I thought our vote was already on chesskid... This head also supports the lynch of chesskid.

As for JABOC,

I

still think he is scum. However, many people seemed perfectly content to call my early posts fluff. Most of my reasoning is there.

[Le Cupcake]

@BE: 3 players have claimed/soft-claimed?... I know chesskid and mafuyu did... who was the third?

p.s. I claimed nothing.

[Le Cupcake]

I would be fine with being a vanillarize target, unless someone else needs it.

The only thing I had originally worried about with suggesting plan was if chesskid did not go along with it. Back around pg14 he wasn't exactly being all the most rational.

[Le Cupcake]

DT is posting that with the assumption that chesskid is town.

We can easily determine his motive once chesskid flips.

[Le Cupcake]

I like how I am getting bunched into the group who suggested it, BE. TBH, I am not fond of chesskid's ability. The possibility of misuse is great.

I will post after classes are done. My main reasoning for wanting chesskid lynch was his obnoxiously scummy behavior which was beyond distracting, not to mention the irrationality shown yesterday. I will reevaluate when I have time.

I have seen a ton of this type of behavior in players D1 lately, so.

P-EDIT: No time to respond to any new comments.

[Le Cupcake]

chesskid, it was not just ythan, you were refusing to answer any anything anyone asked of you.

There was flavor in your PM pertaining to your ability, but when we asked for that, you went apeshit on everyone. I may be more lenient given that I have seen you play like this, but if I were to judge you on your play yesterday, I would have no hesitation in lynching you.

@BE: In the post you quoted, I essentially agree with everything that you posted afterwards, and why it would be a BAD idea to let vanillarizing go through.
As for DTM, I believe that his comment made on vanillarizing largely depends on flip.

[Le Cupcake]

chesskid, it was not just ythan, you were refusing to answer any anything anyone asked of you.

There was flavor in your PM pertaining to your ability, but when we asked for that, you went apeshit on everyone. I may be more lenient given that I have seen you play like this, but if I were to judge you on your play yesterday, I would have no hesitation in lynching you.

@BE: In the post you quoted, I essentially agree with everything that you posted afterwards, and why it would be a BAD idea to let vanillarizing go through.
As for DTM, I believe that his comment made on vanillarizing largely depends on flip.

You only voiced the concern of chesskid not going along with the plan. You volunteered to be vanillarized if he did.

Him not going along with the plan equates to scum, etc.

[Le Cupcake]

IMO, he has shown today that he is capable of playing rationally. And thus, at least for this head, my original reason for wanting chesskid lynch is being put on hold.

P-EDIT: WHAT NIKA IS SAYING.

p.s. STUPID WIRELESS.

[Le Cupcake]

Le Cupcake, now that you're backing off from the chesskid-lynch (

after not comitting to it at all

)

I explained this, I would enjoy you stop mis-repping it.

could you give your suspects and reasons (apart from BE)?

Did you read what I said last night? If not, go back and read it.

[Le Cupcake]

...

Dekes, are you not reading?

I stated last night that reads will come once my other head manages to catch up.


As for effort, it does take a lot, when you are posting in class.

[Le Cupcake]

Unvote, Vote: Blooderection

Scum. Not to mention, this will probably give us quite a bit of information to analyze in later days.

[Le Cupcake]

Oh?

So you really are scum this game zwet?

[Le Cupcake]

I am 100% certain it was a day-vig.

[Le Cupcake]

I would then have no idea why it affected substrike and not me.

No. Damn sure dayvig, thx.

[Le Cupcake]

Oh I wonder.

Secret powers.

If I were hit by a voteblock, it would affect me.

[Le Cupcake]

@kdub: Yes, daykill would be better. I do not know what is proper dayvig play, only that in my only game with one, he shot the obv town 6hrs into the game (granted it was 10pgs).

Also, I like your sig kdub.

@LLD: Daycops exist.

[Le Cupcake]

@LLD: Daycops exist.

LOL. and you're so certain about these things.

Is there a single post of mine that you do not misrep?

I was raising a possibility.

[Le Cupcake]

BS. Do we need to go through as to how many times you've mis-repped me thus far?

At least 3-5 times now.

[Le Cupcake]

I have seen zwet claim miller as scum before. It is not far-fetched for him at all.

[Le Cupcake]

I would have highly preferred we have zwet post that before kai did...

[Le Cupcake]

The heads do not believe it is a good idea to post our role description at this point, as there are other secrets to it that we would rather keep for the time being.

The ability's name, however, is Nayru's Love.

[Le Cupcake]

Race: Aquatic Goddess
Faction: Hero


OH HAI THERE.

Unvote, Vote ythan

[Le Cupcake]

Nayru... Poured her wisdom onto the earth and gave the spirit of law to the world.

This is as much as you're getting. Rolefish more though, it will come up empty.

Calling for lynch on someone who was able to protect against kill. Yeah. Not OMGUS voting you.

[Le Cupcake]

Laughable.

If that is the case, then all opening flavors in role PMs are from game. I wouldn't know, I've never played.

P-EDIT: That is the most fail reasoning I have ever seen. If, as you say, my flavor is from game, then why is not possible that opening flavor in PM is from game, hmm?

Then, even if it is, it would not indicate anything.

[Le Cupcake]

The amount of BS that spewed from your mouth last night was just simply amazing, ythan.

How the fuck was there any flavor failure? If you're referring to why nayru is aquatic, I would think that it would be because "Lanayru" is a water snake. As to in-game, I would have no idea.

P-EDIT: ZWET BROUGHT UP VERDANT, AND CHESSKID DID TOO IN TERMS OF AQUATIC.

[Le Cupcake]

Just read up. LLD shows why flavor knowledge is important.

[Le Cupcake]

@Jenni: Contrary to popular belief, RL does exist, and can in fact, be a total bitch.

That said, we will have time later today, so a post will be coming then.

[Le Cupcake]

In my last dram game, we reached 10 pages in 6hrs. So cut yo complaining.

[Le Cupcake]

This is the other head of Le Cupcake. Apologies for having been busy... We have finally had the chance to analyze.

Anythings, regarding Ythan's case and play:

1.

"Quote comes from game. Therefore, you are scum!"

As had been covered in the past few pages, this has been invalidated.

2.

"Nayru is not an aquatic Goddess. What a shitty fake claim."

LLD has posted plenty of references regarding the fact that Nayru is indeed often associated with water. We do not know the game. We cannot support our claim with in-game references.

BE then says

If you look at my iso, in the OTHER Zelda wiki, there are LOTS of references to water, zoras and aquatic nature.

That doesn't help if that's not the site that Reck+dram used.

because you know, there is NO WAY the mods used any other site, and you DEFINITELY know which sites they used. Yeah, no.

3.

So, why did we say that Ythan spew BS? Because he assumes that he is right without supporting your arguments against LLD apart from

“I know the game! It cannot possibly be that Nayru is aquatic and thus I will choose to ignore all your references and evidence that associate Nayru with water! Because, guess what, I say it’s impossible! Oh hey, other people like jenniwren and jmj have posted also claiming the link between Nayru and water."

Example:

Din flat out is fire. There is a reason her spell in the game is called "Din's Fire". So, using that logic and connection, its not such a leap to assume Nayru is aquatic and Farore is verdant. I have also always associated water with protection and Nayru's Love is out and out a protection spell...(irrelevant info omitted)

"That’s okay, I’ll choose to ignore them but telling them to post an analysis, even if it BLATANTLY clear what their point is (post 1003). And anyways, I’ll ignore their point anyways because they’re WRONG and I’m right. Yep, that’s it. I’ll just keep posting BS.”

4.

The following is about Ythan’s summary on page 41.

(here, here and here)

“Cupcake claims aquatic goddess. It’s incorrect.”

Why does he say this? Because he assumes that he knows everything about the flavor and how the mods worked the flavor from the actual games into this mafia game.

“LLD starts her defense. It’s not a good one. And she OMGUS’ed me.”

In actuality, Ythan fails to really refute any of her arguments beyond “It’s wrong!” For example, her reason for voting him in the first place

2.

You are pushing Against Cupcake with false information, hoping that no one will notice!

Much more likely. There is so little evidence against Cupcake, and you are scrounging to get more. This isn't something a townie should be doing.

VOTE: Ythan

He never comments on this, by the way, apart from saying it's proxy-OMGUS.

We activated Nayru’s Love to protect ourselves. This resulted in the cuccos being disintegrated into little blue particles. LLD points out that this is likely the blue force field known as Nayru’s Love because it is logical that when things collide into a force field, they disintegrate. Ythan’s refute?

“You’re lying.”

963 Lady LD claims that Cupcake was defended by a blue forcefield, ie Nayru's Love. Too bad she's completely lying.

Absolutely amazing refute, isn’t it? Ythan assumes he knows everything about this game, when in fact, it is completely false. He is not one of the mods, but yet he feels the need to strut around acting a god.

5.

“LLD is poorly defending Cupcake based on lies!”

This is just BS. Why? Because Ythan has thus far been unable to disprove anything without basing it off of flavor speculation. All he does is make forceful statements that are completely unsupported. And when others post relevant information that go against him, such as the cases with jenniwren and jmj, he ignores them. Ythan’s strategy is this: he makes strong accusations, calling people liars, hoping that the certainty in his words will completely mask his lack of proof, and thus win other people’s support. This tactic is commonly used, not just in mafia. One uses emotive words and assertive claims so that others will be more inclined to listen/believe them without probing any deeper.

6.

LLD points out Ythan’s lack of proof and his constant defenses that consist of

“You’re lying. I’m right.”

What is Ythan’s response?

“Quit whining. I don’t care”

which is a reflection of all his arguments.

And I'll note that you provide NO PROOF that I am lying. You just come out and say it. You flood the chat with meaningless drabble, just to make it look re-searched, when nothing in your statements is based on FACT.

You keep saying "I LIED". Prove it. Other wise, you are the liar.

I'm

explaining

why you're a liar. You don't need to make three posts in a row to complain about it.

Your explanation shows no "proof".

All you say is "You're lying" or "I'm right, stop complaining".

Prove it, scum. Defend yourself with logic, or be ignored. Honestly.

Keep whining. It really doesn't matter. I don't need to spoonfeed this to you ad nauseum.

The fact is that he has no proof for what he says beyond

“I know the Zelda game and the mods definitely wouldn’t do that. I know exactly what the mods would/have chosen to do in this game.”

_______________________________________________

You're just saying you've done things or that I've done things and you don't refer to them specifically because you're as completely full of shit as your case and you're hoping someone will be stupid enough to take your word for it. Please sit in a corner until enough players check in for us to lynch you or your scumbuddy.

PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP WHAT YTHAN HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST 20 PAGES OR SO.

[Le Cupcake]

No, we activated it at the beginning of the day.

I believe I have already mentioned it being an active ability, rather than a passive.

[Le Cupcake]

This is the other head of Le Cupcake. Apologies for having been busy... We have finally had the chance to analyze.

Anythings, regarding Ythan's case and play:

1.

"Quote comes from game. Therefore, you are scum!"

As had been covered in the past few pages, this has been invalidated.

2.

"Nayru is not an aquatic Goddess. What a shitty fake claim."

LLD has posted plenty of references regarding the fact that Nayru is indeed often associated with water. We do not know the game. We cannot support our claim with in-game references.

BE then says

If you look at my iso, in the OTHER Zelda wiki, there are LOTS of references to water, zoras and aquatic nature.

That doesn't help if that's not the site that Reck+dram used.

because you know, there is NO WAY the mods used any other site, and you DEFINITELY know which sites they used. Yeah, no.

3.

So, why did we say that Ythan spew BS? Because he assumes that he is right without supporting your arguments against LLD apart from

“I know the game! It cannot possibly be that Nayru is aquatic and thus I will choose to ignore all your references and evidence that associate Nayru with water! Because, guess what, I say it’s impossible! Oh hey, other people like jenniwren and jmj have posted also claiming the link between Nayru and water."

Example:

Din flat out is fire. There is a reason her spell in the game is called "Din's Fire". So, using that logic and connection, its not such a leap to assume Nayru is aquatic and Farore is verdant. I have also always associated water with protection and Nayru's Love is out and out a protection spell...(irrelevant info omitted)

"That’s okay, I’ll choose to ignore them but telling them to post an analysis, even if it BLATANTLY clear what their point is (post 1003). And anyways, I’ll ignore their point anyways because they’re WRONG and I’m right. Yep, that’s it. I’ll just keep posting BS.”

4.

The following is about Ythan’s summary on page 41.

(here, here and here)

“Cupcake claims aquatic goddess. It’s incorrect.”

Why does he say this? Because he assumes that he knows everything about the flavor and how the mods worked the flavor from the actual games into this mafia game.

“LLD starts her defense. It’s not a good one. And she OMGUS’ed me.”

In actuality, Ythan fails to really refute any of her arguments beyond “It’s wrong!” For example, her reason for voting him in the first place

2.

You are pushing Against Cupcake with false information, hoping that no one will notice!

Much more likely. There is so little evidence against Cupcake, and you are scrounging to get more. This isn't something a townie should be doing.

VOTE: Ythan

He never comments on this, by the way, apart from saying it's proxy-OMGUS.

We activated Nayru’s Love to protect ourselves. This resulted in the cuccos being disintegrated into little blue particles. LLD points out that this is likely the blue force field known as Nayru’s Love because it is logical that when things collide into a force field, they disintegrate. Ythan’s refute?

“You’re lying.”

963 Lady LD claims that Cupcake was defended by a blue forcefield, ie Nayru's Love. Too bad she's completely lying.

Absolutely amazing refute, isn’t it? Ythan assumes he knows everything about this game, when in fact, it is completely false. He is not one of the mods, but yet he feels the need to strut around acting a god.

5.

“LLD is poorly defending Cupcake based on lies!”

This is just BS. Why? Because Ythan has thus far been unable to disprove anything without basing it off of flavor speculation. All he does is make forceful statements that are completely unsupported. And when others post relevant information that go against him, such as the cases with jenniwren and jmj, he ignores them. Ythan’s strategy is this: he makes strong accusations, calling people liars, hoping that the certainty in his words will completely mask his lack of proof, and thus win other people’s support. This tactic is commonly used, not just in mafia. One uses emotive words and assertive claims so that others will be more inclined to listen/believe them without probing any deeper.

6.

LLD points out Ythan’s lack of proof and his constant defenses that consist of

“You’re lying. I’m right.”

What is Ythan’s response?

“Quit whining. I don’t care”

which is a reflection of all his arguments.

And I'll note that you provide NO PROOF that I am lying. You just come out and say it. You flood the chat with meaningless drabble, just to make it look re-searched, when nothing in your statements is based on FACT.

You keep saying "I LIED". Prove it. Other wise, you are the liar.

I'm

explaining

why you're a liar. You don't need to make three posts in a row to complain about it.

Your explanation shows no "proof".

All you say is "You're lying" or "I'm right, stop complaining".

Prove it, scum. Defend yourself with logic, or be ignored. Honestly.

Keep whining. It really doesn't matter. I don't need to spoonfeed this to you ad nauseum.

The fact is that he has no proof for what he says beyond

“I know the Zelda game and the mods definitely wouldn’t do that. I know exactly what the mods would/have chosen to do in this game.”

_______________________________________________

You're just saying you've done things or that I've done things and you don't refer to them specifically because you're as completely full of shit as your case and you're hoping someone will be stupid enough to take your word for it. Please sit in a corner until enough players check in for us to lynch you or your scumbuddy.

PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP WHAT YTHAN HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST 20 PAGES OR SO.

This sums up pretty much everything. The problem with ythan is how he has played.

And what does he do with this post questioning his play? Right on cue,

calls it a giant post of AtE

, when it's not even close to being AtE.

Not to mention, ythan has still yet to provide any facts as to why nayru CAN'T be aquatic.

[Le Cupcake]

jmj, comments on THIS post.

This head does not have time to answer stuff now, and the other head has RL stuff going on.

[Le Cupcake]

Kat speaking.

@Dekes: Regarding posts, I have issues with that interpretation. Firstly, half those posts are in forums that are non-game related (queue, etc.). Secondly, unless all you want from me is one-liners, then that is why I have not posted as much in this game as say small games.

Having played with me before, you know I post during class. I can not possibly analyze while paying attention.

[Le Cupcake]

Why not?
Daytime SK's are not unheard of.

[Le Cupcake]

kat head v/la for duration and reasons stated in kat sig.

[Le Cupcake]

kat head was v/la, and probably won't have time to read thread in depth until monday at the earliest.

Both heads approve of obvtown rayfrost though.

[Le Cupcake]

I agree with DTM that ythan needs to be checked out tonight.

I still need to catch up on this game, which will hopefully happen in the next couple of days. Meanwhile, my vote goes to fate.

Unvote, Vote GIS

[Le Cupcake]

1. Fact is, Kat announced V/LA and yet posted in other threads.
2. Fact is, the other head didn't announce V/LA and didn't post in here either.
3. And this may be not a generally accepted idea, but I just expect more activity from a hydra.

1. Pure lying from dekes. At that time, Katsuki announced V/LA in all games (was in sig).
2. Other head doesn't post anywhere. Other head is hard to get in contact with, as both heads are always on at different times, and RL is a huge factor.
3. That is you then. I will point to Triglav in Alphabet mafia though as an example that hydras can not be expected to be any more active than a normal playerslot. And triglav had more heads too.
Just because we are a hydra means that we can pump out double the activity. If anything, being a hydra allows the two of us to play in a game that we'd otherwise be too busy to play in seperately.

[Le Cupcake]

No, I am not caught up.

Since you LOVE to stalk katsuki's OTHER games, I will hopefully get caught up this weekend (but you would already know that I am catching up during the weekend via stalkage of other games).
I do not know where my other head is though in terms of this game.

Do not expect anything from us until both heads are able to collaborate (We are not a combination of gandalf and shotty, after all).

[Le Cupcake]

LLD's skill is

Din's Fire

.

At this point, my relation with LLD is rather obvious, as with nikanor.

[Le Cupcake]

Also the mod claimed

that it's possible that he could lie in our PMs in terms of Mason confirmed alignment

Erm... Deny?
In this game, a mason is alignment confirmed. This isn't a bastard mod like CEBM

Three Goddesses-themed mod flavor would be way less annoying.

I find it very telling that the three goddesses AREN'T the mod flavor...

Coupled with the questions earlier about Mason allignment...

Makes you wonder...

LLD wasn't exactly the most subtle. But here ya go.

[Le Cupcake]

HEY FATE

WE SURPASSED ALPHABET

[Le Cupcake]

So who is online to keep me company?

[Le Cupcake]

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD YOU LLD WAS TOWN.

[Le Cupcake]

AND WHAT OLDFASHIONED WAY WAS THAT?

[Le Cupcake]

FATE WHY HATH YOU ABANDONED ME?
IT'S SO LONELY HERE

[Le Cupcake]

FATE
YOUR WIKI LIES
I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOUR SCUM RECORD IS NOT UNDEFEATED (HEY REMEMBER NOBODY SPECIAL???)

[Le Cupcake]

No! What about the longest day ever record?

Only two pages short too...

We claim Cupcake, Dessert Hero. Everyone, discuss.

[Le Cupcake]

Clearly we have contrasting interests, nikanor.

Meanwhile, my other head brought up a subject just now that I feel is very worthy of discussion.

[Le Cupcake]

WHAT?

WHYD YOU READ THAT GAME?

AND IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD KNOW I WASHED MY FUCKING HANDS OF IT DUE TO MOD ERROR.

IF NOT FOR THAT, I WOULD HAVE WON FLAWLESSLY.

WON FLAWLESSLY?
WITH YTHILL'S PLAY THAT GAME?
I THINK NOT.

[Le Cupcake]

ONWARDS TO PAGE 79!

@BEEFSTER: 2 PAGES OF SPAM IS NOT HARD TO READ THROUGH, TRUST ME. IF YOU WANT PROOF, GO READ THROUGH ALPHABET MAFIA.

[Le Cupcake]

As the letters died one by one, they were removed from the flavor.

So, up to this day, we still have no idea what the flavor past N3 said.

[Le Cupcake]

ythan iso = 17 pages.

Just throwing that out there.

[Le Cupcake]

WHAT?

WHYD YOU READ THAT GAME?

AND IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD KNOW I WASHED MY FUCKING HANDS OF IT DUE TO MOD ERROR.

IF NOT FOR THAT, I WOULD HAVE WON FLAWLESSLY.

WON FLAWLESSLY?
WITH YTHILL'S PLAY THAT GAME?
I THINK NOT.

ROLEBLOCKER CLAIM+1KILL THE NIGHTS I RB'D HIM= GAMBIT SUCESSFUL.

I WOULD'VE TAKEN YTHILL DOWN.

I WOULD HAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

LULZ
"WOULD HAVE". SUUUUUUUUUUUURE FATE, KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT

[Le Cupcake]

ALSO, SOMETHING ABOUT SUBSTRIKE'S CLAIM LOOKS FISHY. I WONDER WHICH PART OF IT?

[Le Cupcake]

There is a part of his PM that nags at me though regarding being a neighbor though.

P-edit: Yes, neighbor and masons are different things.

[Le Cupcake]

^AND 2000 WAS MINE, BITCHES.

[Le Cupcake]

lol

A wild BE scum appeared...

Vote: BE

[Le Cupcake]

If Exi did indeed investigate LLD, the result is very possibly due to a shift. It would also explain why he is still alive.

As for the neighbor claims, I am neither against or for it. I do NOT think however that it should be the sole focus for us. We know the presence of the neighbors, and also know that there is obviously scum within their group.

[Le Cupcake]

Ah missed this page.

I self-protected myself D1. It was very possible that I had done it before the shift was activated, as I used it near start of day.

[Le Cupcake]

Apparently I was prodded 5 days ago...

I am quite lost with the last few pages. Since when did shifts affect votes?

[Le Cupcake]

/prodded.

Seriously behind, no time to catch up now.

[Le Cupcake]

...

On a serious note, both heads are seriously behind. I'm behind by some 15-20 pages, no idea where my other head stands.

Will guarentee being caught up next week.

Apologies!

[Le Cupcake]

No shit you're behind. It's nice to see you fall off the face of the earth when you finally get out of almost being lynched for now.

Wanna tell me when this was? I don't recall this ever happening.

Thank you come again.

[Le Cupcake]

Oh mothrax is still alive. A mothrax lynch would do me fine.

Neighbors claiming wouldn't be a bad idea either imo. We clearly have scum within the neighbors (and knowing dram, there will be one more scum within the neighbors if we are facing 2 scum teams).

Do not expect much from this hydra for the next few days. Should be able to catch up properly next week though (during holiday).

[Le Cupcake]

Why did Nikanor have to be the mason to die.

I wonder. Why don't you tell me, ythan?

[Le Cupcake]

Rereading is tech Ythan. He's dead, but he posted his scum reads.

This isn't relevant to anything in my posts.

And Cupcake, you have no reason to believe I had anything to do with the kill and are just mad I'm making fun of you for being useless.

Now now ythan, I know you're not dense.

Not to mention, everyone already makes fun of me being useless, so that's not anything new, nor is it relevant to anything regarding you.

[Le Cupcake]

RayFrost [RUTO],

Sealed Water Sage

aka

Super Commuter Temporary Lovestriking Sage

, killed N2
Substrike22 [BETH],

Poe Cheating Even-Night Strongman

, killed N2

So that's 2 neighbours dead.

I'm the third, we can assume that there's one <orange?> scum member left in the four sages that remain. 1/4. 25%. sounds like average odds for a large game anyway. So scumhunt at large, don't ask for me to out the others.

I think I said already, if we have two scum groups, then there is one more scum neighbor.

That reminds me DTM, why do you think yellow is scum faction again? I'm kind of lost on this train of logic.

[Le Cupcake]

Oh look Cupcake didn't back up the comment and tacitly admits it was just another flavor of omgus.

Oh look ythan is discrediting with yet another OMGUS while avoiding providing a comment in the first place.

Let me know when you learn something other than OMGUS and AtE. Once again, it was nothing close to OMGUS.

[Le Cupcake]

You guys do realize that nika claim to UT death was basically the same as his daycop claim right?

[Le Cupcake]

RayFrost [RUTO],

Sealed Water Sage

aka

Super Commuter Temporary Lovestriking Sage

, killed N2
Substrike22 [BETH],

Poe Cheating Even-Night Strongman

, killed N2

So that's 2 neighbours dead.

I'm the third, we can assume that there's one <orange?> scum member left in the four sages that remain. 1/4. 25%. sounds like average odds for a large game anyway. So scumhunt at large, don't ask for me to out the others.

Um.... why is one of the 4 Poe sisters from the forest temple being considered a sage?

If you guys have anyone else as a Poe Sister in that group, I'd advise you to out them now...

I'm interested in hearing what Substrike's claim was to you guys in your QT?

Substrike claimed he was Rauru in the game thread.
Are we to assume that all scum have a fake claim?

I think it would be a good idea to assume so.

@DTM: You are the one who brought up 2 scumteams.

[Le Cupcake]

Oh look Cupcake didn't back up the comment and tacitly admits it was just another flavor of omgus.

Oh look ythan is discrediting with yet another OMGUS while avoiding providing a comment in the first place.

Let me know when you learn something other than OMGUS and AtE. Once again, it was nothing close to OMGUS.

You're not contributing anything. I can't complain too much since you haven't contributed anything from the start, but honestly, if all you're going to do is bitch and whine it would be best to just not post.

You're so cute ythan. You label the majority of my posts as OMGUS, yet you use OMGUS to respond to my posts?
___________________________________

I'd also like LLD to explain as to why she thinks 3 more neighbors are scum. I'm not understanding why.

[Le Cupcake]

I doubt they'd all be in the same neighborhood though. That'd be quite the unwinnable setup for a scum team.

[Le Cupcake]

Oho.

Mothrax it is then.

Vote: Mothrax

[Le Cupcake]

@DGB: Mothrax was scummy D1, and was the last I saw of him.

AKR is also prob scum.

Mafuyu was largely inactive, though I would not be surprised if she flipped scum (she played slightly different this game than I have seen in the past)

ythan would not surprise me as scum. Iso me for my ythan post DGB.

[Le Cupcake]

Erm, sorry, we meant to make a post last week, but forgot to.

We had made a list of who we were ok with lynching, though I have to go and dig it up from whereever we put it.

The person above me conveniently just happens to be one of them though.


Can anyone here give me a good reason not to lynch zwet? I can guarentee that he is scum.

Vote: Zwet

[Le Cupcake]

ALSO THIS WAGON ON AIKAGE IS TERRIBAD. THERE WILL BE BLOOD SPILT WHEN I GET THE TIME TO LOOK BACK AND SEE HOW THIS DAMNED AIKAGE WAGON GOT STARTED.

[Le Cupcake]

MEANWHILE PLEASE VOTE ZWET KTHX.

[Le Cupcake]

Aikage has been like this the entire game.

I don't get why everyone is pushing the most useless player though. I would be surprised if he were scum.

I honestly think that our efforts would be better spent looking at actually scummy players, and not the most worthless.

[Le Cupcake]

He is scum for failing to claim. He is lazy scum not wanting to bother with a complicated fake claim. Can we lynch him already?

So what makes you think he is scum instead of being a terribly fail player?

[Le Cupcake]

Also, DGB, what do you think to the possibility of scum having daychat?

I remember gandalf stating that scum probably would have daychat, and I find myself agreeing with his point of that, considering we were both scum in alphabet.

[Le Cupcake]

Hm, if you iso him, there tends to be giant timeskips between his posts. This time does seem longer than usual though.

As for role pm, if he were scum, and scum had daychat, he'd be posting something his scumbuddies wrote for him.
So that point of yours imo is a nulltell.

[Le Cupcake]

Whaddya know, scum do get daychat.

I'd much rather see aikage vig'ed tbh, and our lynch used elsewhere.

[Le Cupcake]

Hence...

You're not town this game are you, DGB.

[Le Cupcake]

V/LA, both heads have finals and etc.

[Le Cupcake]

Oh, um, V/LA until next monday.

This head will be on to vote if needed though.

[Le Cupcake]

We COULD go with a beefster wagon, but there are much better ones out there... zwet and bunnylover are two such wagons.

Bunnylover has been scummy this entire game.

[Le Cupcake]

/prodded. We were on V/LA though...

The heads will be looking at this game tomorrow.

[Le Cupcake]

Unvote, Vote: KOC

[Le Cupcake]

HAI

Vote: Bunnylover

[Le Cupcake]

Chrono, you is wrong, there are two sages left. Bongo bongo was substrikes target iirc.

So all of the sage "targets" are scum?

Also, we still have one more scum neighbor no? I missed/do not remember much of the talk on neighbors, can we have a summary of stuff again?

[Le Cupcake]

Do we need evidence?

Bunny has been scum since D1... = =
That does remind me, what is the argument on moth being town again?

[Le Cupcake]

@DGB: YOU NEED TO REDO YOUR ANALYSIS, ORANGE IS SK

[Le Cupcake]

Wait, damn the names and them being similar....
Sages:
Nabooru: chrono, unsealed
Raruu: substrikes fake claim, dead
Saria: koc, dead
Ruto: rayfrost, dead
Darunia: ???, sealed
Impa: ???, unsealed

Thus two unsealed and one sealed= no more neighbors, the poor lonely bastard/bastardess still sealed.

What I wanted if possible was also a list of who their targets were.

[Le Cupcake]

Great kills last night.

Sages got great powers right??
Then why did they claimed?
Now scum can NK them. At least some of them didn't right?

Good thing there are protective powers alive now isn't it?

[Le Cupcake]

lol, die scum.

[Le Cupcake]

Yeah, we've been rather apathetic to this game. Does not help that my other head hasn't read at all.

If one of you has a revive ability, reviving nikanor would be perfect. That way I wouldn't be all alone with only dram to talk to in my QT

[Le Cupcake]

And DGB, did you forget about the analysis? Or are you scum and require a shot from me again...

[Le Cupcake]

Anyone wanna find the list of claims for me? I can't find them.

[Le Cupcake]

Those said blue particles were my ability thank you very much.

[Le Cupcake]

Ooo I like question dodging!

[Le Cupcake]

The first two to post on this page other than myself.

[Le Cupcake]

While we're at it, why don't you join us ythan?

[Le Cupcake]

I MISS YOU LLD.

I suppose it doesn't help that my play got influenced by MPR.
As for the hydra aspect, I'm essentially flying solo now... which doesn't help.

[Le Cupcake]

The masonry confirms no dayshift.

Beef is town.

[Le Cupcake]

No I mean dayshift.

[Le Cupcake]

Hence why I do not get your nightshift comment.

[Le Cupcake]

If Cupcake had a good reason to think Beef was town Lady LD would know about it.

And what may you be implying hmm? ^^

[Le Cupcake]

If Cupcake had a good reason to think Beef was town Lady LD would know about it.

And what may you be implying hmm? ^^

That it's just a read and nobody should assume you have a good reason for it.

Not read related. That would involve me having read the thread.

Assume you are talking to MPR when talking to me.

[Le Cupcake]

NICE FAKECLAIM

I'M SORRY THAT YOU'RE SCUM THIS GAME DGB.

Vote: DGB

[Le Cupcake]

DGB almost never gets incorrect reads on me. I suggest a big or someone to kill me to let me flip, then lynch DGB.

No you are confirmed town.

[Le Cupcake]

What a surprise that beefster died after we confirmed him as town last day though.

[Le Cupcake]

BS ythan.

DGB is fakeclaiming.

[Le Cupcake]

Guess what else is fun?

DGB is boss scum.

Give up and let her die, ythan. You're next tonight anyways.

P-EDIT: Dear lord all these ninjas. By the time I get home tonight I'm gonna be behind already.

@Zwet: Reads on AKR and ythan?

[Le Cupcake]

@Zwet: Reads on ythan and AKR?

[Le Cupcake]

DGB is a fakeclaiming boss-scum.

That is all.

[Le Cupcake]

DGB is a fakeclaiming boss-scum.

That is all.

Explain your case or die in a fire.

Ooo fire doesn't sound like a very pleasent way to go.

[Le Cupcake]

Al has yet to explain the current status of his case on DGB. Lady LD is sheeping him but is at least paying attention to the game. Cupcake is garbage and is only parroting what other people say without having any thoughtful input or thoughtful thought.

Knowing that DGB is fakeclaiming as a boss-scum is enough imput imo.

It's a pity that I don;t have the time to type up a post detailing why she is fake-claiming though.
You guys are welcome to lynch her while I'm gone though. I can guarentee she is boss-scum.

[Le Cupcake]

Don't need past actions for scum.

And with that, I'm gone.

[Le Cupcake]

@DTM: Massclaim is not needed yet. DGB is scum.

@LLD: I hate to keep saying this, but check QT.

[Le Cupcake]

Regardless, there is no outside conclusive proof that showed Beef as confirmed town.

There was.

[Le Cupcake]

Mind as well shine a little light on the DGB matter.

Firstly, her fakeclaim PM is terribly constructed. A sage does not have a different role-name from their sage name (in this case, Kaepora Gabora), from their sage name (Rauru). Secondly, there is still one scum-sage remaining anyways, so it seems that DGB is the one.
Then there is the fact that one of her abilities is eerily similar to one of mine, and I doubt there'd be two similar protective roles present amongst town, considering that we are pretty much town's main protective power.

I do not believe there is any need for the other sage to claim.

[Le Cupcake]

Passive Abilities:

Sage of Light

- If investigated, your identity will show up as

Rauru

.

This is pretty much straight out of a fakeclaim. Remember substrike anyone?

[Le Cupcake]

LLD, weak doc works just like a hider, except with the added benefit of protecting your target.

You'd know this if you read our QT.

[Le Cupcake]

...

Obviously you did not.

[Le Cupcake]

Also, instead of acting 12, maybe you should stop spamming the game thread, and keep it to the mason QT.

[Le Cupcake]

Considering 1 is right beneath 4 on the keyboard, yeah.

I too am curious as to why LLD is not voting though.

[Le Cupcake]

Interesting question.

I suppose both would work.

[Le Cupcake]

Welcome to Ocarina of Time Mafia,

DGB

. You are

Kaepora Gaebora

.

Passive Abilities:

Sage of Light

- If investigated, your identity will show up as

Rauru

.

This is pretty much straight out of a fakeclaim. Remember substrike anyone?

So as I was saying about the two different names... Sages have one name. Why would DGB's name be different from her sage name?

Aka, fake role PM.

[Le Cupcake]

This day would be far more productive ending in a DGB lynch.

I'd love for zwet to come back in here though.

[Le Cupcake]

You're missing the point.

[Le Cupcake]

A vote is missing, zwet. ^^

[Le Cupcake]

Oh remind me, did you claim sage, mothrax?

On another note, there are most likely only 2 townies remaining outside of LLD, zwet and myself. Not exactly the most comforting scenario out there. 3-man scumteams are not a possibility imo.

[Le Cupcake]

I'm ready for D6.

The flips tonight imo will be particularly meaningful. We should be able to determine the rest of the scum through PoE tomorrow.

[Le Cupcake]

Dumb it down a bit, I feel dim at the moment.

[Le Cupcake]

Why not just shoot ythan and profit?

P-Edit: Interesting.

P-Edit II: That alternative could work also. Though I feel more comfortable lynching DGB, then scumhunting for the kill target.

[Le Cupcake]

I highly doubt dram would give us 4 ways to identify scum.

I mean, we have UT who was some unknown sort of cop, Exilon the boss daycop, and mafuyu/replacements as POE cop. A fourth would make no sense, especially when the targets for sages have thus far all shown to be scum.

We're already dealing from max scumteams of 4. It just wouldn't be right if there were so many methods for the scum to be exposed considering their numbers in relation to the game.

[Le Cupcake]

Regardless, I am ok with DGB lynch, if not a combination of her claim and her play. This is just not the town-DGB I am used to, though I don't want to go as far as saying PYP-DGB (:P).

[Le Cupcake]

Not really.

Everyone's targettable, just a matter if you want to sacrifice to take zwet out.

[Le Cupcake]

Yeah yeah we already no ythan is not town kthx.

DGB you're being unusually stubborn this game. Can't you just pull another PYP?

[Le Cupcake]

Considering I have a "bodyguard-like" skill, I highly doubt the mods are framing you too. ^^

[Le Cupcake]

What I'm saying is that I doubt your weak doc would be called "bodyguard".

[Le Cupcake]

^^

[Le Cupcake]

That was established some 100 pages ago anything new?