Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Ythan]

Hi.

[Ythan]

Jabu-Jabu would be a fine ruler, by the by. Except that having a Zora-affiliated ruler who would doubtless have to remain in Zora's Fountain, probably shifting the capital to Zora's Domain, would cause tensions between the Zora and the other peoples of Hyrule.

Anyway

[Ythan]

How bastardly is slightly bastardly?

He said it's not very, just complex and swingy.

[Ythan]

This is a public service announcement...I'll be killing scum today. I can feel it in the air.

Confidence. Lovely. ^_^

Concerned?

[Ythan]

Hm.

Nah.

I take it you expect this attitude to further the information the town will gain on Day 1.

This seems strange.

You questioned a random vote. Pushing it is what seems strange to me.

[Ythan]

wow this rvs sure is ending fast

Nice contribution.

[Ythan]

wow this rvs sure is ending fast

Nice contribution.

SAME TO YOU!

Except I've been contributing. Read more.

[Ythan]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3&start=50

[Ythan]

That link didn't work! Short version, you have four posts and none of them have any content.

[Ythan]

You questioned a random vote.

Pushing it is what seems strange to me.

If questioning random votes is taboo, than when will the game move forward?

Chronopie, simply quoting things is not an explanation.

[Ythan]

Long story short, you ask for me to explain my vote, yet look at your own vote reasoning.

Not hard.

Since you're only skimming the game, yes, I can see how you'd see it that way. However, it is easy to tell from what you've stated that you aren't looking at what the motivations for my vote were.

When you've actually thought about it, talk to me.

Bull. Shit.

vote Just a Bit Off-Center

[Ythan]

Confirming my vote. "I wanted to draw attention to myself" is not believable. RVS always ends and acting dumb is not necessary. I can't follow a thought process that would indicate that it is.

[Ythan]

Will respond more later. I'd prefer not to let my emotions get in the way.

Nobody is asking you any complicated questions or pushing you more than is perfectly reasonable given your actions so far.

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

I had a question for you.

This is a public service announcement...I'll be killing scum today. I can feel it in the air.

Confidence. Lovely. ^_^

Concerned?

[Ythan]

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

because.

I actually am a miller CPR doc, by the way.

I suppose that excuses you from killing pro-town players then, doesn't it.

[Ythan]

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

because.

I actually am a miller CPR doc, by the way.

I suppose that excuses you from killing pro-town players then, doesn't it.

lolwut?

lolwut s pretty much what I was going for. Miller CPR doc is a terribly suspicious claim. But it's just a claim in a crazy game and he hasn't done anything else suspicious. Except maybe claiming more than miller for no reason.

[Ythan]

are you really taking a page four claim seriously?

Are you doing anything?

Ythan played differently last game, I will need to watch him.

Did you not elaborate because it's not true?

sure is a scummy wagon.

Do something about it, or anything at all, or don't post.

[Ythan]

its page 5 with 15 people not voting, chillax son.

If you're just going to complain then expect criticism.

[Ythan]

And by the way, Reck didn't let me choose my role or alignment in this game.

Dram wouldn't let him.

[Ythan]

Ythan played differently last game, I will need to watch him.

Did you not elaborate because it's not true?

This one?

[Ythan]

If he could explain how it's different from my normal play then it would be fine. But this is how I always play in fun games where I'm not mafia. So I actually played a lot like this in the last one, as third party.

Nik: Both? Do you mean this and the Guys game?

[Ythan]

And by this I mean the obvious last game, Reck's Mad Mind.

Ninja: I'm actually not scum here, which is a nice change.

[Ythan]

I meant that I see less ad hom and less picking fights with players, though it could be that the main ad hom target and the main fightee are not players in this game.

Are you one of those people who don't know the difference between insult and ad hom. Because if you are I can show you both.

[Ythan]

That's upwards of 90 dollars, or 400 for the collector's edition. According to Amazon anyway.

HI FATE

[Ythan]

Worrying about miller cpr claims before he can prove it is suspicious.

Explain how anything that I did is actually suspicious under this accusation, if it goes beyond "get rid of the claimed extra killer".

5. Mothrax is off. Something about that post reads: bandwagon hopping. Which I think is fine this early in the game, but the reasons are off.

That post? The first one, right?

Edit Hm something about insults/ad hom attacks reminds me of the point I made earlier.

It looks like you consider yourself to have made five points before this. Which one are you referring to?

6. Fate OMGUS,

This wouldn't even make sense if you were one of those people who doesn't know what OMGUS is. You made no reference to him before his vote.

7. Zwet is still a very good kill target. Less noise, but then I wouldn't be able to see his avatar giggle when he types "giggles". /creepy moment.

I'll wait while you explain this without contradicting anything else you've said.

Your mother is a good kill target.

You actually are a good kill target though. I can rehash if you want.

[Ythan]

I'm a bad killtarget.

Oh well when you put it that way.

[Ythan]

drawing attention to one self to determine the scum wagon isn't something a scum player would like to do over day 1

Then I guess that's something scum would never do. So if someone does it they must be town. And scum would never do something to appear town. We're on the same page now.

[Ythan]

The claim it self, if it was true is verifiable.

Okay. And power-claiming at the start of day one under no pressure?

...It's a self note to see if the same argument applies here with the: "NO U ARE LYING" responses.

Sorry, I didn't catch the point in this section.

I'm using the over used waterdown version here.

Except that it's not even the watered down version, as I said before.

He's best reserved to be shot, over lynched in terms of gameplay as you would shoot an anti-town player and lynch the scum read.

Will you clarify, do you think he is the best vig target or just a better vig target than lynch?

5. P-preview! It's a start. That delves into player's meta over scumminess/townieness with respect to how someone draws attention to themselves. Heck scum-Fate has less balls then town-Fate play interms of that, and it's more obvious now post game where Fate relinquished his leadership scum hunting style to Spyrex and won the game via double bus. And Fate was being tame.

The idea isn't farfetched. The whole: OMG YOUR LYING argument gets us no where since both sides settle on an absolute judgment.

This is what I was saying. You made an absolute call on something that scum would

never never

do which is wrong.

[Ythan]

Everything is in order then, no more questions.

[Ythan]

Other players are contributing, and I don't think anyone wants to wait on you to get useful. So I'd start now.

[Ythan]

If that's sarcasm then I'm telling you this for your own good. You can disagree all you want but it's not going to keep you from getting viged.

[Ythan]

By the way, I gleaned two things that I can remember from talking to Reck before the game started. I'm going to text him to ask if I can share.

[Ythan]

Anyway if you want to vig me, do it tomorrow - not today/tonight pl0x.

There's a fair chance that whatever you want to do tonight or tomorrow or tomorrow night is pro-scum.

[Ythan]

By the way, I gleaned two things that I can remember from talking to Reck before the game started. I'm going to text him to ask if I can share.

No

[Ythan]

I'm pretty sure I haven't said once I think you're scum. Let me check my iso. Seriously, I'm doing it.

...

Spoiler:

wow this rvs sure is ending fast

Nice contribution.

sure is a scummy wagon.

Do something about it, or anything at all, or don't post.

its page 5 with 15 people not voting, chillax son.

If you're just going to complain then expect criticism.

Your mother is a good kill target.

You actually are a good kill target though. I can rehash if you want.

I'm a bad killtarget.

Oh well when you put it that way.

Other players are contributing, and I don't think anyone wants to wait on you to get useful. So I'd start now.

If that's sarcasm then I'm telling you this for your own good. You can disagree all you want but it's not going to keep you from getting viged.

Anyway if you want to vig me, do it tomorrow - not today/tonight pl0x.

There's a fair chance that whatever you want to do tonight or tomorrow or tomorrow night is pro-scum.

There's everything I've directed at you this game. This is the kind of defensiveness that I do find unambiguously scummy.

unvote vote chesskid3

And still this.

FoS Just a Bit Off-Center

[Ythan]

There's a wiki, I'm not here to teach you the game.

[Ythan]

Welcome to me.

[Ythan]

Is chesskid not an alt?

If he's not

then I'll explain that vigs should often focus on anti-town players while town lynches scummy players, so that players have to take stands in lynching scummy players while anti-town distractions are nevertheless dealt with. But if he is an alt and should know this then I renounce it and he can look it up himself.

[Ythan]

Then take heed.

[Ythan]

<3

[Ythan]

Thank god, I thought he had replaced in.

[Ythan]

If you had time to make that wall then please take a moment to point out an instance of me deflecting a point with sarcasm. You could have already done this if you weren't busy inflating your complaints about me criticizing your thus far poor play.

[Ythan]

I was directly addressing the point you foolish fool. Sarcasm does not mean I'm deflecting anything. So try again or go back to more obvious fluff.

[Ythan]

You made no point except that you have a big vig target on your forehead.

[Ythan]

kid: You did this thing in this post.
Ythan: No look I actually didn't and here's why.
kid: Herp derp vig me please.

[Ythan]

After this point I've had enough of trying to draw content out of you. Please just try not to be a nuisance until someone deals with you.

[Ythan]

You didn't though. You have posted nothing that did not fall apart in the slightest of breezes. You have upheld nothing because there is nothing. If you disagree then try to support the things you've said against criticism. Not holding my breath after your contribution so far, to be honest.

[Ythan]

Chesskid you're refusing to try to defend your accusations against the very first round of their criticism. Putting you aside now, you're a horrible player with nothing to add and need to be killed.

[Ythan]

Why do you support vigging a townie? Is it because you are scum?

You're far from clear town. I was excited when I got into this game and didn't see any VIs I knew but damn it if I didn't find a new one. And nobody gives a shit about your "ability" so don't think that your "hinting" is going to make things go your way.

[Ythan]

But seriously, you should watch out. Mafuyu sincerely hopes you're playing to your wincon in some odd, bastardly way.

Maybe he's an obnoxious twat because he got Navi.

[Ythan]

Why in the name of all fucking things holy am I in the same fucking sentence as drmy when describing potential players that would make a chesskid alt?

Yeah this is what I thought. If anything I'm your alt.

[Ythan]

I'd like to reverse my stance that chesskid should be viged, unless we have a day vig. He wants to live to tonight for some reason and refuses to explain why. As much as I want to buy the King Zora claim since he's a useless load, that doesn't have any bearing on his alignment.

[Ythan]

Shotty reads to me like someone who does something wrong and then doesn't do it again because he's not a moron. So, second chance.

[Ythan]

You're scared of my ability, which is why you want me vigged before i can use it. I'll claim my ability tomorrow, and you can all decide if you want to vig me or not.

Any moronic dav-vig who shoots me today will earn a worst vig ever award.

Are you retarded or something. If you don't claim you're going to die. That's how this works. Don't bitch at us because you dug yourself into a hole with your shit play.

[Ythan]

Your ability became useless when they gave it to you.

[Ythan]

It is also slightly bastardly, not to mention I am sure reck and dram would not allow a name claim to clear someone.

After Weeds Mafia Reck is very wary of flavor confirmation. So no.

Fuck you.

I'm a suicidial double-shot permanent vanillizer.

Fuck off or i'll use it on you just because I would get immense pleasure out of it.

I'm not scared of your scummy ability claim. Because you're going to die and I'm sure you'd botch it anyway.

[Ythan]

Your ability became useless when they gave it to you.

Come now, that was not nice at all.

Wasn't trying for nice!

[Ythan]

Lol that doesn't make your claim any less scummy, you know.

[Ythan]

Chess, I don't know if you realize but you're kind of a huge moron and liability regardless of your alignment. I know it seems like we're all out to get you but it's because you're a terrible terrible presence in this game.

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

Hey I got an idea. Lets not lynch me, and if I'm alive tomorrow maybe we can reconsider then durrrp.

Remember how it was stupid the last time you suggested it.

[Ythan]

You're a terrible player with a scummy role with an anti-town ability. If we don't lynch you you'll use it. So we're going to lynch you. Also the obnoxious whiner thing. I think everyone would like to not see you post tomorrow.

[Ythan]

You do realize you can make a fake claim about your faction REALLY easily?

I don't think that he does or we wouldn't still be talking about it.

[Ythan]

I'm hero. And guess what, you can say you're whatever you want and we don't have to believe you. Good play, which we have seen zero of from your corner, is what would make us believe you.

[Ythan]

I highly highly doubt that both Reck and Dram would make the huge mistake of not telling the scum what the town's faction is called. Have you ever played a themed game? Probably not?

[Ythan]

Also, can you give flavor info as to why King Zora has that particular ability?

This. My ability is flavor-connected to my role.

[Ythan]

The ability, you maroon. How is King Z a vanillizer.

Ninja: No shit we want that are you dense.

[Ythan]

Blah blah blah bullshit. Lynch please. Kid you can selfvote if you want to help us move this along.

[Ythan]

Quit being an obnoxious crybaby and sit in a corner until we can send you back to the newbie queue where you belong.

If you flip town then we'll move on and acknowledge that you were a shitty scummy player who deserved a lynch. That's how the game works.

[Ythan]

I'm telling you right now. My flavor was /VERY/ specific to my role.

[Ythan]

Ok you know what I'm going to get modkilled. Fuck you both.

lolololol

[Ythan]

And this is why you're a terrible player.

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

blah blah blah was that I would die but that I could choose two targets and vanillize them permanently. Thought that part was obv, sheesh.

That isn't flavor you buffoon.

[Ythan]

I'll explain this really simply since you're too dumb to have picked it up so far.

You're terrible to be in the game and could well be scum.

You have an ability that is very scummy and that even if you are town would be terrible in your hands because you're a moron.

We don't want you to use it tonight and we don't want you in the game.

Give us your neck size because we're lynching you.

And your flavor claim sucks. Quit repeating it because it's not going to make anyone believe it more than they already do.

And nobody is thinking about what you would do if you were smart scum because you're not smart anything.

And I don't think anyone trusts you to follow through with the targets we give you. Hypothetically, because we're not giving you targets, because we're lynching you.

[Ythan]

I think that the races likely include Hylian, Kokiri, Goron, Zora, Sheikah, Gerudo, Human, and possibly Deku or a few other minor ones.

[Ythan]

Because of the sages, I mean. With a race mechanic, the races of the sages are likely present.

[Ythan]

Yeah so lynch me that'll solve all the problems.....except the one with the scum, and the infoless d1 because you're all tunnelling for no reason. Oh, right. That problem.

It's a 28 player game, and this day is only fluffy because of you. That's why we're lynching you.

I think that the races likely include Hylian, Kokiri, Goron, Zora, Sheikah, Gerudo, Human, and possibly Deku or a few other minor ones.

There is human outside of Hylian in this game..? I doubt Termina will come into play...

Sheikah is a good catch. As is Gerudo. Deku is unlikely, but possible I agree.

Thanks for editting my thoughts.

Malon and Talon and I think Ingo are Human. Others too.

Ninja: I doubt sages are in the game. The mods, if anything. Oh yeah, and fairies. And an owl. Who knows.

[Ythan]

Just saying! Lots of racial possibilities.

[Ythan]

A million other players have slipped by lurking/not contributing/with 3 people not even confirming

We can deal with lurkers when we get the bumbling jackass out of the way. They're not first priority with a player like you here.

because you have been tunneling on me since page 6.

Don't use words if you don't know what they mean, it makes you look stupid.

Your play is what is anti-town here, not mine.

You're not going to explain why because you are full of shit.

Sadly this town is full of sheep, or the inactive people are all the town. I don't know, but something is odd here.

I know what's odd, if you want a hint, but you might not like it.

[Ythan]

I'm pretty clearly not scum

LOL. I actually did laugh out loud, I don't throw that around lightly. No you're not.

so you're just lynching me to remove me from the game, which is inherently anti-town.

You're more anti-town than that guy from the last game, and I don't throw that around lightly either.

[Ythan]

tunneling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

I'm attacking you because you're awful. That's not tunneling. Read the wiki, I'm not your IC.

[Ythan]

I want to use my power because I hate you fucks and have no desire to play this game. That does not mean I don't care about the town and want to play to my win condition.

Then replace out so we don't have to play with you.

[Ythan]

Re-directing blame is a scum tell in my books. Dunno about yall.

We need to have words about this and other such comments tomorrow.

[Ythan]

I'm not using the "Why me?" tactic.

I'm wondering why Ythan is blowing everything out of proportion to basically force a town lynch because OMG I'M SO ANTI-TOWN WITH MY PLAY.

Have you considered that you don't understand what's going on because you're bad at Mafia.

[Ythan]

Re-directing blame is a scum tell in my books. Dunno about yall.

We need to have words about this and other such comments tomorrow.

Do you disagree?

No but I disagree with the way you forward things.

[Ythan]

Ignore my claim then. I can't help what role I got. What reason was there for the tunneling on me from page 6, as opposed to say Albert who has like 3 posts, or the 3 people who haven't even confirmed yet, or Le Cupcake who has also only posted filler?

YEAH LETS ATTACK THE 3 PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T CONFIRMED BECAUSE THEY SO CAN DEFEND THEMSELVES.
o.o
The reason you were "tunneled" was because of how your posting and acting.

I mentioned Le Cupcake's lack of content as well. His response was to just hop on the attacking CK wagon. You created a wagon, Ythan, without regard to who the target is, (lets face it, you don't really care if I'm town or scum). You made D1 useless, and yet I'm the one who is anti-town?

lol ok

[Ythan]

Refer back to one place you've posted content. Not holding my breath, I'm sure you'll just bitch.

[Ythan]

You created a wagon, Ythan, without regard to who the target is, (lets face it, you don't really care if I'm town or scum). You made D1 useless, and yet I'm the one who is anti-town?

This is what you call content. And you think you're not the worst player in this game.

[Ythan]

Re-directing blame is a scum tell in my books. Dunno about yall.

We need to have words about this and other such comments tomorrow.

Do you disagree?

No but I disagree with the way you forward things.

What do you mean?

Sorry for asking so many questions. I'm probably as much of a newb as chesskid... I just have a bit more logic. @_@

You are infinitely better than chesskid. Asking questions does not a bad player make. I was kind of vague anyway.

I think that you half-forward accusations and count on other players to pick them up. I consider that a scumtell.

[Ythan]

Look at Le Cupcake in ISO. My point is valid. You just don't care, because you have tunnel vision, no matter how much you deny it, it is true.

I already explained how lurkers are lower priority than jackass VIs. Guess you forgot.

[Ythan]

It's not that it isn't helpful to town, it's just a method that scum can use to get suspicions out without having to commit to the ones that don't gain momentum.

[Ythan]

You're not contributing and your own reference back to your own content was a bad one. Show us more if you want to convince, maybe some that make sense.

I know you're upset, I sure as hell would be if I had made all of your posts, but don't spend all your time acting like a whiny little bitch at me.

And if you think I'm tunneling why don't you point out something else I could have commented on and didn't. Or is two tasks too much for you.

[Ythan]

Unvote; Vote: chesskid3

Nothing much to add. Good wagon on bad scum. While reading through the thread at first I thought he was just the same noisemaker he was at the beginning of the last game I played with him. And he turned out not to be the VI that you could get the impression of. But I have no idea who he thinks he can convince with his empty threats and desperate pleas.

[Ythan]

Lynching chesskid will help.

[Ythan]

Those are exactly true actually. Explain how they're not if you disagree or shove a deku stick up your ass.

[Ythan]

Unvote; Vote: chesskid3

Nothing much to add. Good wagon on bad scum. While reading through the thread at first I thought he was just the same noisemaker he was at the beginning of the last game I played with him. And he turned out not to be the VI that you could get the impression of. But I have no idea who he thinks he can convince with his empty threats and desperate pleas.

Way to just quote a post there, boss.

You said his vote was bad. It clearly was just fine. Verdict, you suck. End.

[Ythan]

"Just let me live until tomorrow so I can use my scummy ability with terrible aim because I'm a bad player."

[Ythan]

And it's not hypocritical you steak tardtard. I asked you to contribute and you contributed poorly. Just because you finally post something almost meaningful doesn't mean your shit smells like flowers all of a sudden.

[Ythan]

I'm not going to dig it up for you. Defend your own self. I'm not a babysitter.

[Ythan]

I'm not actually being accused of that at the moment, all my accusations are a case made of air, so there's no point defending, because if i put a shield up at one point, you just blow the air somewhere else.

Then I guess you have nothing to worry about.

[Ythan]

You seriously called him opportunistic when you just hopped on him with two accusations I doubt you can back up and asked that he be investigated.

[Ythan]

Chesskid, I hope you know that nobody is going to listen to your suggestions because you're the worst.

[Ythan]

I love to see a horribly scummy VI go down screaming "DO THIS TO THAT GUY WHEN I'M GONE".

And yeah, I'm sure all 15 people are your wagon are just opportunistic idiots.

[Ythan]

Chesskid, I hope you know that nobody is going to listen to your suggestions because you're the worst.

This post implies you know I'm town, and yet you're still up for voting me.

You have already addressed this, but how the fuck is this pro-town?

I don't know you're town. it's 50/50. I've been over why you should die regardless. Hint, it has something to do with you being a bumbling fool.

[Ythan]

Bad things happen when town lets idiotic jackasses like yourself live until endgame because they're idiotic jackasses who can't be read.

Ninja: Your brain doesn't work properly so what it suggests to you is irrelevant.

[Ythan]

You're a fucking retard and I'm done repeating myself to you. If you ever decide to post something fresh I'll respond but I'm not expecting much.

[Ythan]

@ Untold Tripod: What are you going to do when I flip town?

I know you're obviously new to this but you need to understand that a town flip doesn't make a lynch any less valid.

[Ythan]

There's only one problem in this game.

[Ythan]

That's not even what tunneling is.

[Ythan]

Town used d1. It's super effective.

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

Crybaby much.

[Ythan]

ftfy

[Ythan]

That other person? Also I think that's L-1.

unvote

Don't want to see it end too soon, especially with a self-hammer.

[Ythan]

He's going to be lynched. It doesn't need to happen before everyone has even posted. We have our lynch today settled after only 48 hours, we can look at something else for the moment. And chesskid is a gigantic moron for acting like pro-town is anti-town. But then we know that he's a dumbass so it's not unexpected.

[Ythan]

There definitely are, just not from that. I'm not asking for town points, I'm asking for what I said in the same post: No quick- or self-lynch.

[Ythan]

See look someone showed up to participate.

[Ythan]

FATE I CAN CAPS AND WE CAN BE HUGE DICKS TO EVERYONE

[Ythan]

Anyone know Reck/dram modkilling flip meta?

[Ythan]

Blooderection has a terrible scumdar. Can you restate why I'm scum as well?

Blankets are for sleeping.

haha, I was going to control-copy my pm into the thread to prove my point about flavor, but I like Reck games, so I'm not going to.

Why don't you just go home.

[Ythan]

I don't like Tripod's response to a broad list on d1 after tons of noise.

Thanks ReckDom!

[Ythan]

how come you get to call Tripod scum but when I do it you rage at me :/

Because everyone but you knows how to play.

[Ythan]

Did we go over fakeclaims? Because I'm pretty sure we did.

[Ythan]

So your ReDead is from something you did, not an ability?

[Ythan]

It's funny that he's calling people idiots.

[Ythan]

Pretty sure we're not getting a mk. I told MS he was worse than cancer and to get syph in the last game and I slipped my way out of a mk, and we're even allowed to quote role PMs. I don't see why they'd possibly off him for us.

[Ythan]

Pretty much what Fate just said.

[Ythan]

Why does he join games.

[Ythan]

I assumed the VC flavor was flavor.

[Ythan]

FATE MAH BOI

What's that Cupcake?

[Ythan]

Oh, is the ReDead's vote displayed on the VC? If that's the case I understand the claim. Checking.

[Ythan]

It is!

[Ythan]

Wheretf is Aikage.

[Ythan]

This is going to be a long game.

[Ythan]

o ho ho

[Ythan]

I assumed it was a blatant crumb.

[Ythan]

ReckJester won't end the game after Guys Mafia 1, plus I don't think he's a jester I think it's genuine idiocy.

[Ythan]

That game seems pretty irrelevant so how about you two stop spamming about it.

[Ythan]

That game seems pretty irrelevant so how about you two stop spamming about it.

[Ythan]

He's something-proof. In the last game Reck allowed someone to be mod-somethinged and survive it due to a role immunity. His day-vig comment is a lie.

[Ythan]

hihi want me to vanillize him?

No you're being lynched today. We're just waiting a bit for everyone to get here.

He's something-proof. In the last game Reck allowed someone to be mod-somethinged and survive it due to a role immunity. His day-vig comment is a lie.

which game was that?

Reck's Mad Mind.

And Fate, he said he's not going to lie as he did in that game.

[Ythan]

Yeah you better milk that after you took the time to set it up.

[Ythan]

Just so you know, a hated townie is a pretty fucking good role to vanillize.
Cupcake is obv a 1-kill immune hated townie, i've had that role before in a theme game (not on this site). Now that his immunity is gone, he's better off as a vanilla...

So so so much is wrong with this. I bet you won't link to that game? You can even if it's on another site.

[Ythan]

Seriously, jester-discussers, what do you think are the odds that the VI would get jester if there even is one?

[Ythan]

OF COURSE IT'S ONGOING and you can't share it. I don't believe you I think you're completely full of shit.

[Ythan]

You're calling me stupid because I don't believe the retarded shit you say? Someone needs another shoulder to cry on because nobody here gives a shit.

Ninja: Your pathetic attempt to accuse me is tunneling. Sad sack of suck.

[Ythan]

By the way, are you still alive in that game? If so I doubt your mod would appreciate the role PM post.

[Ythan]

Pretty sure n.

[Ythan]

Are you sure Cuppycake was the one who claimed hate? Or can you just not read any better than you can post?

[Ythan]

WAY TO FAIL

[Ythan]

If I was that mod I'd want to know about this, honestly.

[Ythan]

Pretty sure n.

Chesskid/cupcake scumteam.

...

That dayvig bullet would've been much more useful going to you.

P-EDIT: WHAT YTHAN SAID.
CUPCAKE HAS CLAIMED NOTHING.

Your response is a threat. Why. Why not nothing or something better?

[Ythan]

Chesskid is such a huge tunneler I'm making him a diglett avatar.

Ninja: I didn't troll you into doing it you fucking idiot. I expressed non-surprise that you didn't back your bullshit up. Because, say it with me, you were doing yet another retarded thing.

[Ythan]

Ythan
In the span of 5 pages or less, BE has already misrep'ed my posts at least 2-3 times.

Now, I wonder if I'd be getting town vibes from someone like that.

Yeah, no.

P-Edit: cupcake hasn't tunneled anyone. Do you need a lesson like chess as to what tunneling is? Ythan posted a nice wiki link a while back.

I don't think I actually posted since it's not a newbie game and I'm not here to spoonfeed his dumb ass.

[Ythan]

did so

best post

[Ythan]

Do I need to add troll to the long list of simple words kid doesn't understand?

[Ythan]

I explain why when I unvoted him.

[Ythan]

Or something.

[Ythan]

Thanks for wasting our time with spam.

[Ythan]

Is Cuppycake ONLY talking to BE or what.

[Ythan]

Hardly. I'm 100% part of the wagon, I just want to keep him at L-2 for the moment. What are you basing that accusation on?

[Ythan]

He can answer for himself.

[Ythan]

The rules allow it. It's been discussed.

[Ythan]

This has really been a 0 information day so far.

It clearly has not, and this isn't going to convince anyone to ignore the day.

Lol. The fact that only a few people on this wagon actually expect me to flip scum says oodles about the idiocy of the town in this game.

Blah blah you don't know how Mafia works same old same old. It might help to realize that you're so awful that you need to be out of the game regardless.

Ok well this will probably be my last content post

lol!

I'd explain, but

lol!

Edit 1: Oh you die when you vanillize people... OMG WUT WE CAN CONFIRM YOU AND NOT WASTE A VIG NOR A LYNCH?! AND YOU'RE A NOISE GENERATOR!! OMG OMG THIS IS AWESME. CHESS LYNCH DOES NOT GO THROUGH.

No. We've been over pretty thoroughly why he is not living to night. You seem to have missed it.

[Ythan]

Part of me is still tempted to vanillize Ythan just because I'm a moron.

Pretty much.

He deserves it, though.

Cry about it. More, I mean.

I'm going to vanillize my top two scumreads.

You've yet to express any good scum reads. You've spent all your time bitching and none doing anything else but occasionally parroting the most obvious of reads. So~

[Ythan]

I'm not sold on an Ythan or mothrax lynch though.

Lol what. As if there has ever been a chance of an Ythan lynch?

STILL 10 PAGES OF SPAM TO READ HUH

Then read the ten pages of not spam instead. Or a dictionary.

[Ythan]

...

You can vote for the mod?

It's a Reck game.

Oh?

So you really are scum this game zwet?

Are you seriously going to keep spending your time posting shit like this.

[Ythan]

Not only do I doubt that he'll answer that but where did you intend to go with your answer?

[Ythan]

How about this: If Kid can formulate two good scum reads then I'm for allowing him to kill himself tonight or be lynched in short order tomorrow.

[Ythan]

He's more than his role. He's a giant VI. And if he's town and is going to use his ability (if he doesn't then he's effectively a vanilla VI), he should use it early. Even if he hits two scum and turns them into goons, doing it right before the end isn't going to do us nearly as much good as doing it early. Plus, then he'd be posting until then and that would be terrible.

[Ythan]

How about this: If Kid can formulate two good scum reads then I'm for allowing him to kill himself tonight or be lynched in short order tomorrow.

What would your other top scum lynch for today be then? Diddin, lady L, Chrono? Untrod?

I'm reconsidering for my number one.

[Ythan]

How about this: If Kid can formulate two good scum reads then I'm for allowing him to kill himself tonight or be lynched in short order tomorrow.

What would your other top scum lynch for today be then? Diddin, lady L, Chrono? Untrod?

Nice job, throwing some names out there.

Why don't you put up some evidence for those names, before you throw them around?

If you can...

Otherwise, you're deflecting pressure off of you (there are people voting for you).

I'm fairly certain they're people I've commented on in the past.

[Ythan]

I'm still going to comment on it. It's opportunistic. Questioning a post and then running with it before you have an answer is no good.

[Ythan]

I said this. You ask for explanation and then continue on without waiting for it.

[Ythan]

Explain why my comment was opportunistic.

...

That's what I did.

And by the way there was no night zero.

[Ythan]

Three Goddesses-themed mod flavor would be way less annoying.

[Ythan]

I find it very telling that the three goddesses AREN'T the mod flavor...

Coupled with the questions earlier about Mason allignment...

Makes you wonder...

Remember what I said about vague.

But seriously, is Cupcake softclaiming BP?

Not as much as you're fishing it out.

[Ythan]

Ytram, you don't control my fate. I'm not suiciding tonight, nor is anyone going to vig me, nor am I going to quicklynched tomorrow for still being alive. Move on.

If you say so champ.

ZONEACE is replacing Diddin, isn't he swell! (Elli and Cow being unavailable and all...)

lol

Alright. To start, zwet's miller claim is likely legit. Speaking of which, I am also a miller. Take that as you will.

Oh ho ho! I think I see.

[Ythan]

Why there are multiple millers, Kairyuu. It's not important right now.

Cupcake, can we get a reference?

I was wrong about my miller theory but that explains it even better.

[Ythan]

If Kai is telling the truth which I have no reason to doubt at the moment then I think a number of players, probably bosses from the game or some other group of enemies, are likely town millers. My theory was Gerudo.

[Ythan]

..

Yeah that would have been good.

[Ythan]

It's more than competence. The first Guys game had a game-ending jester and since then Reck has disavowed them. Plus, a game-ending jester in a game this large would be terribly bastard.

[Ythan]

Preview edit: And why would I wait to post important information regarding my role?

You were not under suspicion. He was. It would have been nice to have him provide it himself.

[Ythan]

Ythan continuing to push for the lynch of a cop-confirmed inno is disconcerting.

So disconcerting that you think I'm pushing for the lynch still.

@Ythan: However, zwet is obv-town, and from what I gathered, has been mentioned very little. Also, only a small portion of the mentions have included suspicion. I saw no real reason not to post what I felt was important info. Plus, people could theoretically make a "case" that I'm "lurking" like I did as scum in Alphabet for not posting content for 48 hours . . .

I don't like that you felt the urge to back up the first half of this with the second half. What you did would not excuse you from lurking accusations.

Also, Reck was a first time mod, and if I remember correctly that was a Marathon game. The first bit doesn't really excuse it due to the fact that a mini theme (the first time you can reasonably expect to be able to include a Jester if you wanted to) with a game-ending Jester would probably piss people off pretty bad if it goes off past D1, and probably even then. However, a Marathon game is generally designed in minutes, and takes a few hours maximum to play through. I wouldn't honestly be overly irritated if I ran into one in one of them, even in lylo.

Are you making a point here? To speed things along I'll assume you're saying there may be a game-ending jester because otherwise I don't know what the point would be. If not then just ignore this. Reck has said, more than once, that he wouldn't use one again.

@Ythan: Now that I think about it, why do the miller claims all have to have the same flavor behind them? I could very well see something like a Gerudo miller in addition to what I am. Sure, it would be fairly symmetrical thematically, and would mean that the miller ability could be copy-pasted, but it's not necessarily the case.

Because. And I'm only giving you that much because you asked and I don't want you bugging me about ignoring you.

[Ythan]

I'll go a step further and ask zwet to post his CPR doc flavor as well. He's already claimed the ability, so the flavor isn't going to reveal anything important. I'd like to see how his supposed abilities check out with his role flavor.

Look at chesskid. What exactly do you intend to gain.

[Ythan]

i don't know if i should try to read this game thorugh, because of my roll a lot of people are seem angry and certain about things. then there are all these claims??

i think dramonic is playing joke on me to make me sign up for this game because my roll is stupid and based off ongoing joke IRL between me and him

We could always get a real replacement.

Hence my call for him to quote the ability. If he can't, then he lied, and we lynch him.

Looking at your play here compared to the last game I've got both my eyes on you.

I don't honestly care what order you would have preferred he and I posted in, because I know I'm town, and zwet is obv-town, so to me it's irrelevant.

This is incredibly simple, really. You hopped in and handed him the material he at that moment needed to claim. And he did.

Guys, Kai is not town. Everyone who was in the last game with us FoS him with me please.

There is absolutely no reason for you to be making posts completely devoid of individual pro-town thought.

This could apply to more than one player.

Since I am on my way out, here is the too long; didn't read version: She's fairly scummy for reasons I will likely outline later, but she's committed a certain towntell that has proven reliable to this site meta. My stance on her is thus awaiting more information.

I don't think anyone needs to explain what happens if this isn't satisfactorily fleshed out before the end of the day.

[Ythan]

You are a Miller Reflexive Non-Verdant CPR Doctor. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:
Monstrosity - Despite your pledge to help the heroes of Hyrule defend their fair land from the certain evil at hand, people still have a hard time trusting you due to your previous allegiances. If you are checked by a cop, they will believe you are still evil.
Bioelectrogenesis - If you are targeted by an ability, you will automatically unleash an electric barrage upon your targeter (the ability still goes through). Unless that person is from a verdant race or was targeted by a kill during the same phase, he will die at the end of the phase.

I was concerned about the race claim here but I guess this fits the boss theme pretty nicely, Barinade.

Also I am more than 80% certain Cupcake is scum.

vote Le Cupcake

[Ythan]

Verdant most likely refers to all humanoid non-monstrous races.

[Ythan]

And besides, scum are not supposed to be flavor-obvious. And besides, only one character ever uses Nayru's love and it's not Nayru.

[Ythan]

Aquatic goddess, seriously? That wouldn't even apply to Nayru, any more than a 100% OMGUS vote would. Nayru isn't aquatic. More role PM plz.

[Ythan]

That is a quote from the game.

You are scum.

[Ythan]

I've never played either... nor any other Zelda games for that matter.

That would explain botching your fakeclaim.

[Ythan]

Laughable in the sense that you're attempting to undermine my accusation with no basis? Yeah maybe. And for your P-edit, it's pretty clear that you googled Nayru, maybe found this:

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Nayru_%28goddess%29

and then added it to your botched race-claim.

[Ythan]

"Nayru... Poured her wisdom onto the earth and gave the spirit of law to the world."

[Ythan]

Look it even has the same ellipses format, dot dot dot space. It's exactly the same.

[Ythan]

Nik, she's

not aquatic

. I know you can't legitimately be buying into that bullshit claim. I don't wonder why you want me lynched, I only wonder how you'd spin it for town.

[Ythan]

It is based on this picture that Nikanor is attempting to back up Cupcake's bad claim.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... ess%29.png

Yeah so aquatic.

[Ythan]

I really hope Nikanor is writing up a good post explaining his proxy-omgus attack and its lack of content.