Harry Potter Mafia - Over!

[SpyreX]

Expect more details late tonight BUT for now:

ML is awesome.
RC is pretty awesome.
Dram is not super scum and I seriously don't get the twirling mustaches busted scum vibe from it because its pretty clear something weird happened last night.
Sudo_Nym was a really weird lynch and I'm absolutely baffled by the patronus claim ESPECIALLY as some kind of counterclaim to that. The only issue is its a 1-1 that makes me twice.

Tinfoil theory I really want to explore more: Ooba was trying to signal to his peeps he was a traitor through who he was suspicious of and may* have drawn the kill for it. This would point at RC, Kmd, Esp, MMM having probably two scum in it.

Tinfoil theory two: Something REALLY strange happened last night and ooba wasn't even the target of it. We are, more likely than not, missing an actual Death Eater kill (flavor speculation the only way it makes sense for ooba to be a DE-kill is if they have individualized kill flavor and they sent Fenrir to do it).

I'm pissed, PISSED that jmj is town* because I was all ready to get a murdering.

On the short list:
Esp, Raj, Fur, MPR, IH

You'll get more tonight

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I've got all my nephews so I dont get to bite in as much as I want to but:

Esp's claim hasn't a.) been explained so it actually makes sense and b.) still doesn't fit as 'Prongs the Patronus'.

b.) alone is almost enough to lynch for. Especially since, if b.) is right like I think it is a mass-nameclaim might be AWESOME because the fakeclaims are non-existent or f--.

Dram's jump to a doc protect because no wizard kill isn't a smoking gun. Its worth looking at, sure, but the esp business REALLY bothers me.

And, of course, if he's actually "lynchproof" that needs to be tested.

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Vote: Esp

I feel like I'm missing something important, but not enough to dissuade this fo now

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No - "lynchproof" is one of those claims that HAS to be tested.

Not to mention lynchproof = counterclaiming a jailer.

And its hella bedtime.

GOD paranoia: What role would make sense to be lynchproof unless "something happened" in Harry Potter?

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You get more with quotes and stuff when I'm back in the realm of the living but that "I may or may not be lynchproof thus the jailer is lying and I don't know what my role actually does" is not awesome.

And I was alluding to a Voldemort / Harry - both are BP while the other is alive kinda madness but that's tinfoil.

1.) Esp - As stated it absolutely doesn't add up.
2.) This is harder. ESSENTIALY I'd be cool with any of Raj, Fur, MPR, IH and probably in that orderish (IH is last because it just needs to be replaced, Fur needs a real sit down analysis because thats gut, Raj could be bulletfood and MPR isn't doing anything)

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Hot damn Fur I'm loving your style while hating your target

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@ spyrex, why dont you think dram is a good lynch? do you not agree that his slip 90% confirms that he is scum or a doc? either he's a scum whose kill didn't go through, or he's a doc and he assumed his protection went through. the fact that i was targeted last night by what i assume was a killing action (which i am 99% sure i survived because of my role, not because of any protection on me), and the fact that HE DIDNT READ THAT before he posted his thing saying 'ooo looks like the doc got lucky' makes me think he's scum as opposed to a doc. do you agree or disagree?

I just don't see that as a slip. Looking at the flavor missing an actual wizard kill makes sense. Thats the biggest part by a wide margin.

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RC:

A, B, and C are all solid. Yes. However, I still don't think its a slip because of:

D.) Ohh, there was one kill last night. It was torn to shreds. There was no wizard kill. Looks like a doc got lucky.

The issue everyone is having is the last bit which could be:
Looks like a doc got lucky
Looks like a RB got lucky
Looks like we have a BP
Looks like they both wanted him dead
Etc.

Replacing in to one kill I assumed that -something- happened last night to deflect at least a kill.

Thats why I dont like this wagon.

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regardless of what "deflected" the kill, most people didn't see it, and his "congratulations" was more of "an unintentional admission of guilt".

Furthermore, as NS just showed, he is STILL making slipups.

I didn't need to "see" something to know that 1 kill in this setup sure as hell didn't make sense and then, upon reading the flavor, what kill missing seemed pretty obvious.

And that YOU = the town = I am scum = wooosh.

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The AC and AC doesn't make sense? I mean if the argument is he flat out gave up a huge chunk of the scumteam welll

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The roll isn't at that ML, its at NS's amazing right above

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Esp is a good call still. Nothing about what happened on that end adds up - and for real doesn't add up, not pretend doesn't add up.

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WHAT?

How do you go "Ohh, ok our win conditions are different" and not have a vote accompany it.

In fact... where is your vote?

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Did fur just not only request a mass name claim but say lying is a good idea and THEN claim the name?

ML - its too obvious. Now, if one of those two die and, in fact, flip AC then we can talk. Not enough for me to want Esp not dead

Speaking of:

I'm still waiting for how that claim makes sense on its own merits AND how it serves as a quasi-cc of the jailer.

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I'll take it up with the mod after the game if you flip town (hint: you wont).

My ONLY hesitation is how weird doing that is as scum but I'm not going to second guess myself more about it.

This needs to happen.

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Not Espeonage: Too Many
Espeonage: Not Enough
Nobody Special: Should be killed regardless

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No seriously if asking for a votecount was a scumtell you'd be hung in games in 2013 for this one alone.

I'm tempted to nominate you for Votecount? the title good gravy.

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If you're gonna claim role-savior you better damn well explain it because like I've been asking for over and over an explanation on how that makes sense at all would be awesome.

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Yep, a draw.

Now's the time to admit you're not Ron (HINT DONT SAY WHO YOU ARE)

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He's faking offended because its pretty clear in retrospect he was making it up to being with soo

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Yea thats pretty much right.

I just can't decide if its scum motivated or not.

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If you're sticking with the Weasley then I really, really want to know how that makes what Esp said make any sense at all.

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Yes, I want specifics of how what he said correlates to your role.

Of course, as it sits he is a MUCH preferable lynch but if you want to derail it I need a damn good reason.

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Shhh its a secret but I'm working on a hitlist and FG is on it.

For NOW, however, I want this riddle sovled

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LETS MAKE NS A LIAR!

THEN WE CAN LYNCH HIM FOR IT!

WHO IS WITH ME!

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WHAT

HEED THIS INTERLOPER: NO DISPARAGING REMARKS ABOUT THE UR-QUAN WILL BE TOLERATED

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</3

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I expect you to play in my next Star Control game as punishment RC for even pretend hate on my Ur-Quan.

I still want this day to be done

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There is not death here.

I am sad.

Let us rectify this sadness.

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Raj just lept way up the killin' list.

However, I'm down with a bus so.

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I wish I could make up my mind about him.

If Esp is scum I'd call him OHH SNAP a good investigation choice. Maybe a killin.

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I, flat out, have no knowledge of dram's alignment besides what I see and the simple knowledge that I, as town, thought the same thing seeing that.

So, yes, if I'm wrong I totally see the push for my danglin'.

I just dont think I'm wrong

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Sup Andrius.

Throw that hammer. You know you want to.

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No no no. Do it.

There will be no repercussions. Think how good it will feel. All over you.

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No, I'm saying you can hammer regardless of alignment and I will applaud you as a hero. This needs to happen, only you can prevent forest fires.

Traitors -normally- know who the mafia are but the mafia are not aware of who the traitor is. Sometimes the mafia know a traitor is IN the game, sometimes not. Sometimes its backwards and the mafia know the traitor but the traitor doesn't know the mafia.

In short, its the worst best kill to have

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If you actually lit me on fire I swear mr man.

You've got an opportunity I'd love and you're squandering it with your precious "reading"

How about this, I'll unvote, you vote, then I'll hammer then its MY fault.

Unvote

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He claimed to be Prongs, the Patronus and that somehow (still not sure) was reason to counterclaim the Jailer leading to that death.

We'll leave flavor issues aside some but yea. Dangle.

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No no. Not a patronus. Prongs the Patronus.

Who is unkillable and unlynchable maybe no one knows.

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You're getting there. (Prongs was his dads nickname and MAYBE that could apply to Harry's Patronus buttttt doubtful)

Its like you see it. You feel it.

You're just not voting it.

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You feel the need to vote. It is in you.

Give in. Vote. Set him free.

Set us all free.

You are the hero of the story, young padawan. Become a true Jedi.

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Few things are as beautiful as a hammer that HAS BEEN LIKE PULLING TEETH AND YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON ALIVE IN THIS GAME SO HELP ME OUT SO HELP ME

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Like seriously now I'm staying up just HOPING you'll see the light or give in whichever so I can vote and then make this happen.

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12:08?

GET OUT OF MY TIMEZONE!

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Psh, I live more in the PNW than you do buddy.

If your plan involves voting RIGHT NOW I am for it.

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Yes good sir I know what the Pacific Northwest is I AM the pacific northwest WHAT now.

And yes that plan, although I'm a little fuzzy on part two, is a good one. Especially the lynching Esp part.

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Is there a timelimit on night that I'm missing?

Because, if that is the case then hells yea.

And the yelling is my stick yo. No hard feelings. <3

I bet you're an Oregonian, aren't you.

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Ohh hells yes if its set then lets grease this pig.

At the very least it'll shake this thread into doin stuff.

Ooou another WA'er I can accept that. I hope you're not an eastsider, for your sake.

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Harry is town, -most likely- from what we've seen.

This Patronus business is shenanigans.

(And yep, I'm a WA'er)

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Thats why I say most likely - theoretically, key characters could be not in the game and left for fakeclaims for just that train of thought. I mean, its not gonna be a LYNCH HARRY SNAP but you know.

(Near Mt.Rainier)

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Ohh I know. MOST likely is approximately 90% and, depending on WHO claimed it, probably an insta-town.

(West-side and don't know where the mountain is? Ohh lord you're in Bellingham aren't you)

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90% is pretty good yo.

(Ahhhhh fair enough. Confused me. You wont find it on a map though, probably.)

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OK, 5 more minutes and then I've got to go to sleep. I'm hoping for a vote. So I can do my thing

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OOHHH KAY FINE

15 minutes. Afk for a minute.

(I'm so confused at where you could be on the westside now)

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Hrmmm hurry up I'm sleepy.

(Not Pierce or Thurston. Probably King. Not Seattle proper. Everett or Issaquah)

OHH PREVIEW EDIT IF YOU SCREW THIS UP AND HE FLIPS SCUM YOU ARE A DEAD MAN

Vote: Esp

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Me, all me.

P.s. nows not the time for that and I swear if Andruis votes before 1:00 AM and you don't hammer I will flip this wagon SO HARD

(Not you Andruis, the furmachine)

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Cause he's all dumbledorin it up.

(You can't be Pierce I notice you left that out)

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(Hmmm PM me if you want to talk more about Washington and its awesomness)

If, when I get up, Esp is not lynched I'm going to just post RALLY CALL and every post will be a vote for fur or a implicit declaration of being scum. I am serious.

Esp dies or fur dies. Or you F-- and lynch me for it.

Regardless. There will be blood.

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AND WITH THAT I SLEEP WELL.

GOOD WORK SOLDIERS WE DID MORE IN THE LAST HOUR THEN THE LAST WEEK.

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It was that line that got me killed? Sheesh. I was thinking there was a Harry / Voldemort esqe unlynchable until the other is killed thing going on.

I assumed it was for my tinfoil about ooba that was right for all the wrong reasons.

And you are very, very welcome for me killing the SK. I am a scum MVP for that thank you very much

And while I'm not flavor lord Prongs the Patronus still doesn't make sense and reeked of a "mod didn't provide fakeclaims" bit.

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The only thing I was sad to see was that no one questioned the giant discussion Andrius and I had about "Key roles in the move may, in fact, be fakeclaims" and then I'm dead.

Silly rabbits.