Gears of War Mafia (Over!)

[kunkstar7]

Vote: Karma.

Obviously a ploy to prevent himself from being lynched.

Wait...

unvote; Vote: ReaperCharlie

for blatantly pointing out his votehopping! This is srs bsns.

[kunkstar7]

Plato was a hack.

Spamming A button nowww!!!

Vote Socrates

I don't want to analyze his posts!

Why me specifically?

Because it's an RV and if you have a problem with it, that is considered scummy.

Dude, of course, that obviously reeks of scum[/sarcasm]

...WIFOM, but a lot of times I see overreaction as more likely town than scum, why do you think its scummy? (

@CMAR, No, Parama was not right about me overreacting to the votes in DCI. He was obv reaching.

). Like Parama, I think you are reading too much into it, reaching if you will.


Sidenote, not really important:
Is it a bad thing that I don't know much about GOW? I've surmised the basis of it is humans are trying to protect themselves from a horde of Locusts.

[kunkstar7]

Really don't like how Socrates seems to be playing the field right now, example:

CMAR, thoughts on ReaperCharlie's play so far?

Purposely inciting an obvious opponent of RC without adding any input of his own.

Unvote; Vote: Socrates.

Everyone voting someone for the "making jokes about being scum", why is it scummy? It definitely seems much more of a nulltell to me, especially seeing as we are fresh at the start of the game, people were joking around. If it isn't scummy or you don't see it as really being worthy of a vote, then why are you voting for that?

[kunkstar7]

checking time stamps.

Wait, why?

Fate pretty much wins everything.

[kunkstar7]

Um, BC, do you really believe that is Fate's roleclaim? Just want to know if you actually see it as serious or not.

[kunkstar7]

Its Fate. He basically said that whatever lynch he wants to happen happens. Then it goes to night, rinse and repeat. He likes to dominate town discussion/ direction, it just happens.

[kunkstar7]

He doesn't have to control, he just strongly believes that his opinions are the right ones.

Here, I'll break it down to show you why its what he means:

I'm Fate, Town Gears of War Logo

His avatar of course

. Each day I can shine my mighty avatar on a player of my choosing and after 24 hours

This means he expects his lynch targets to be lynched within 24 hours of his choosing the target.

that person will be lynched and the game will go to night

Normal progression of the game after a lynch.

. My ability is posted in thread in the form of "Vote: [playername]

This especially shows that he is just referring to his lynch target as he specifically states that the standard vote procedure is his "special ability.

" I cannot be killed ever

Joking obv.

.

[kunkstar7]

Top two suspects, and whyz.

Answer that yourself please, haven't seen anything from you before this.

[kunkstar7]

@Silver, I have no problem with giving my reads. Simply put, I actually have a legitimate vote in place, also my top suspect at the moment. I have seen but one actual content post from you this game, and it does not even state your suspicions/top suspects.

[kunkstar7]

I find it kind of funny how you think we are paranoid because we are asking you for reads. Seems much like OMGUS. Also, if you have read my vote post you could have determined that Socrates is my current suspect, given before you actually even asked for the reads, so actually my reads were given out before you had even asked for them . The buddying was brought up by BC, discuss that with him.

Secondly, its Fate not Flake

[kunkstar7]

Apparently none of you have been reading my posts, because if you were you might have noticed something which I thought was pretty freakin' obvious.

Nah, not getting it.

Your "analysis" seems much more like IIOA, with the except of your reads at the end of that post. Also your insistence on giving people passes because they are "newb[town|scum]" isn't sitting well with me. This isn't a newbie game, so no one gets passes for being new. Yes people shouldn't tunnel exclusively on them, but if they make a legitimate mistake we have legitimate cause to pursue them.


@Mod, methinks I found an error =/

Socrates (2): kunkstar7

I'm pretty sure I'm not a double voter either

vote:Karma

Thats how I feel about this.

Feel about what exactly...?

[kunkstar7]

I feel like everyone is just calling everyone else scum and I don't see it, I feel so left out >_>

UNVOTE: Socrates, cuz it doesn't belong there right now. Need new reads.

[kunkstar7]

This has to be one of the most nonsensical Day One I have ever been a part of. Moar games should be played like this.

Between Fate, DGB, and xReck, my mind is gonna explode. Wagon on Slicey for lurking? Kise fits this too. But yea why not...

Vote: Slicey.

[kunkstar7]

ITT Socrates is jealous of Fate's leadership ability.

[kunkstar7]

Will everyone who's active and/or who cares, please post a list of those you think are scum?

Top 3 only.

In all honesty I feel little reasoning coming from any of Fate/DGB/Reckx's claims of who is scum. xReck's early VT claim makes him seem townish, I can't see a reason for scum to claim that early, with barely a wagon. Fits with his play as well.

I feel like my play today is just follow the most convincing (or maybe its just always that )

DGB's reasoning regarding the fact that if BOTH of the players are scum, and one is neighbor then the smart play is to kill the scum that hasn't claimed a role. Neighbor isn't much of a threat.

Not sure why if DGB is so obvscum to Fate he's willing to take a chance at a mislynch over a obvscumlynch?

Top...1:
CMAR for his apparent ignorance of this thread when he is involved with the neighbor claim.

Unvote; Vote: CMAR.

And I bet most likely the rest of the scum is in lurklist as well.

[kunkstar7]

Well, this is easy. Either Socrates or Jack is scum. Both of them is a possibility, but less likely.

Confused as well by the same thing as Socrates, so agree on the flavor claim idea.

[kunkstar7]

RC, if Jack claims to be neighbor with CMAR, and Jack claimed that CMAR claimed to be neighbor with Socrates, do you not think that CMAR would be deemed as a neighbor in his rolename? What I'm mostly looking for was if Jack's neighborization with CMAR was just a side ability, which explains the lack of the word "neighbor" in CMAR's role, or if it actually his role, in which case I find it more likely that all three were lying.

[kunkstar7]

Yes k*7. It's entirely possible they were all lying.

Then why are you calling me out for rolefishing if what I am saying is logical?

[kunkstar7]

Holy crap that just went boom, seems way too fast for comfort. I am fine with either a Jack or Socrates lynch because one of them is obvscum with CMAR, waiting on claim from Socrates first though.

[kunkstar7]

So many things...DGB being countered by Reck, Jack calling his neighborhood with CMAR a fake (did I read that post right, first on Page 31?)?

Likely Reckscum if DGB flips scum as well,

Vote: DGB.

I'm mostly confused about the nightkills. It doesn't seem to be playing to scum's favor, leaving more vocal players alive. Makes me paranoid about Fate really.

[kunkstar7]

Then Reck is obvscum for claiming he got two packages.

[kunkstar7]

I can make a pistol, locust detector, and a Tranq gun

I took this as a complete list of items you could make. If that was correct then the following wouldn't be possible:

Night 2, I sent the BP vest to Jack.

Am I wrong in assuming that was the complete list?

[kunkstar7]

After checking out that Stranded link, I can see DGB as an inventor, and BC has no reason to counterclaim something like that if he was scum. DGB's talk during the fakelynch seems more likely town than Ergo, probably both are town, or at least BC is town and DGB is third party. RC is also basically confirmed with no counterclaim to his mason with Sensfan. With both packages accounted for as sent, it seems that xReckx isn't lying, so there isn't any discrepancy in the claims.

Jack is my biggest issue right now, he's the remaining player of the Jack/Soc/CMAR trio that has been bothersome. He now claims that his whole spiel with CMAR was fake (never got confirmation otherwise), and it just doesn't sit right,

unvote; Vote: Jack.

Fate is a second suspect due to mainly how him being a vocal player, along with most of the players going along with his votes, were bypassed in the favor of killing lurkers, when it would clearly serve the scum to eliminate these directing forces first.

[kunkstar7]

EBWOP:

After checking out that Stranded link, I can see DGB as an inventor, and BC has no reason to counterclaim something like that if he was scum. DGB's talk during the fakelynch seems more likely town than

scum appealing to emotion.

Ergo, probably both are town, or at least BC is town and DGB is third party.

Italics is addition.

[kunkstar7]

NK speculation doesn't always equal bad. I believe this is a situation where it fits quite well, considering the odd nightkill choices.

Also, that reason being?

[kunkstar7]

No seriously, reasons.

Also Fate, that's why you are a

second

suspect. The NK stuff makes me suspicious of you, but there are more pressing people to focus on. Your quick thinly veiled OMGUS-y reaction does nothing to remedy the suspicion on you either.

[kunkstar7]

Yes, because CMAR totally f-'ed your slot over after you got replaced, of course they didn't need to kill you. After a strong performance like that , with CMAR flipping scum, the same person who replaced into your slot, why wouldn't he advise his team to kill you?

Yes, Jack is better. He lied about his neighborness with CMAR. If he lied about his neighborness, he lied about CMAR talking about Soc, which was one of the major reasons I supported the Socrates lynch.

There are no neighbors. Which is why DGB is scum.

So how else could he sell us CMAR unless he was his partner?

You are the one role-fishing when you imply that someone is a role-cop without stating why or who.

[kunkstar7]

I SAID I'D BE HERE ALL FUCKIN NIGHT SCUM.

STOP RUNNING AWAY FROM YOUR PROBLEMS

Two can play at this game.

Maybe he could sell us CMAR scum because he FOUND scum and no one listened to him, so he came up with that gambit (which he has apparently done before).

Yes, and with a player who was in the game in which he tried it initially also in this game, he could very easily just hope for confirmation from DGB on the gambit and hope he still gets away with it again.

Your subsequent statement to me after saying you believed there was a rolecop reads to me as if you believe I am the rolecop, therefore you are fishing for my role.

To be honest I'm not sure why I'm arguing with Fate, its not accomplishing much.

[kunkstar7]

Mine says nothing about banding together and surviving and arguing later in my flavor.

Mine does, Human Faction, so don't know what kind of Faction you got.

[kunkstar7]

Cue xReckx backtracking and saying "oh wait, wrong flavor, I actually got the same..."

[kunkstar7]

Hi, yea despite seriously not liking the gambit, Jack's last post makes way too much sense for him as scum.

Fate, since you so obviously see DGB as scum what do you make of her willingness to lynch MPR?

I'm more in favor of a Karma lynch actually, I've seen him lurk to endgame and win it as scum. He's definitely made himself worthy of the lynch today.

Unvote; Vote: Karma.

[kunkstar7]

Wait....what game is that from? Why do you think it stands the same here?

[kunkstar7]

Well, sort of scratch the second questions I get the correlation now.

[kunkstar7]

Sajin is active elsewhere.

I have 100% verifiable meta of this.

Scum stalling to catch up means I'd be down with a Sajin lynch FO SHO

Karma is doing this too, but don't see him going down to day so...

Unvote; Vote: DGB.

[kunkstar7]

Nice of you to drop by, not read more than the 10 most recent posts and hop on the easy lynch, though, while bus'ing your buddy Karma, maybe???

I've got the whole thread read thank you very much.

[kunkstar7]

Nice of you to drop by, not read more than the 10 most recent posts and hop on the easy lynch, though, while bus'ing your buddy Karma, maybe???

I've got the whole thread read thank you very much.

What are your scum reads. NAO!!!

I'm more or less waiting for a lynch to be reached because its easier to make connections once people are dead.

DGB is scummy from claiming débâcle, Fate just switched from "LYNCH DGB OBSVSCUM" to "lets lynch us some lurkers" while stating that he felt DGB was becoming more likely townie which is hella confusing. xReck's alignment seems to hang on DGB's, so

Karma is still a good lynch option for his heavy lurking this game while still managing to post in some other game we are in together. I was arguing with said person in said game today. Why is Sajin a better lynch than Karma Fate?

@DGB: You can hand out a 1-shot BD or you can use it yourself?

[kunkstar7]

DGB is a busdriver too?

Wait what the fuck?

I have a one-shot I can use myself.

And two inventions I can share.

When did this happen? Seriously, you would think you would say this kind of stuff when you claimed.

[kunkstar7]

I'm more or less waiting for a lynch to be reached because its easier to make connections once people are dead.

How convenient, let the other players be at each other's throats while to active lurk, waiting for a lynch, and then showing up only to try to hasten a lynch that's been brewing for ages, and didn't happen fast enough.

View next segment.

DGB is scummy from claiming débâcle

Have you even read the details, or are you just going by the general impression created by other players?

I read/comprehended details, but my play tends to be more reliant on general impression/direction,

as long as it makes sense to me.

As you probably have noticed in this game so far.

Karma is still a good lynch option for his heavy lurking this game while still managing to post in some other game we are in together. I was arguing with said person in said game today. Why is Sajin a better lynch than Karma Fate?

Why not MPR, then??? In other words, are you working a townie lurker lynch, or are you bus'ing?

Why not MPR? I picked Karma because I have actually seen proof that he is around.

[kunkstar7]

When did this happen? Seriously, you would think you would say this kind of stuff when you claimed.

???

Well someone knew I had a bus drive, so obviously I said I had one previously, please put your head in a plastic bag...

And magicallly Jack's buddy BC gives him a bulletproof vest?

BTW, I don't have a BP vest in my arsenal.

I have an investigation, a roleblock, and a bus-drive.

You stated that you had a busdrive roleblock and investigation, but I was under the impression that these were the abilities you could hand out not use yourself, similar to the investigation you claim to have handed out.

[kunkstar7]

Is a BC/DGB/Reck gambit too crazy? That recent post regarding BC thinking DGB was a busdriver when she claimed inventor is really off to me.

[kunkstar7]

So now I'm guessing you don't hand out investigations either. [/sarcasm]

[kunkstar7]

As it is, it's probably just scummy impatience getting the best of him.

Probably. I like the assumptions, keep it up.

[kunkstar7]

atm that would be reaper, jack, fate, reck and I.

i'm down for that.

unvote:
Vote: That the mod modkills all lurkers

nao >.<

I would even say kunkster =/

I'm not really down with being modkilled, I don't think I've been quite in the league of Slicey or MPR, I at least try to contribute

Seriously, more than anything we need to decide on lynch and act, cuz we are long past due for an action and I think that's whats really dragging down the recent day besides the [extreme] lurkers.

DGB, Karma are lynchs I'm good with, if Karma gets modkilled then he isn't an issue. Fate would be a long second choice at this point (for reasons I argued with him earlier about, even if he doesn't agree that they are viable.)

[kunkstar7]

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE....

Ok, so we've officially proven that it's a hidden voter. To be honest, the fact that its on xReckx makes it more likely to me that he's town considering that the wagon was being built up on him, so I'm guessing the voter took a chance for a quick chaotic mislynch.

[kunkstar7]

It's not Reaper.

It's probably Jack IMO. Maybe BC.

@Reck, why not Fate? I can see it being Fate, especially he was the first to mention "secret vote sent into mod".

[kunkstar7]

@DGB:

YUP I'M THE SECRET VOTER THAT PMS MY MOD WITH MY SECRET VOTE TO SECRETLY DECEIVE YOU ALL SECRETLY.

[kunkstar7]

@RC, what do you expect from another day or two? Like what do you want from the players that requires another day?

[kunkstar7]

Ok, might as well claim because I failed at choosing correctly and because if it looks like lyLo, I'm Cole Train the COG Doctor. I protected Fate N1 and N2 because I felt if he was town he was a valuable leader, and because he didn't get targeted I became suspicious, hence the whole deal with "lurkers dying instead of Fate." I protected RC last night because he was the uncountered mason, therefore he was close to confirmed.

I'll find me breadcrumb:

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[kunkstar7]

Yea, I'm quite badass and a literal and metaphorical lifesaver.

[kunkstar7]

Yes, Doctor.

[kunkstar7]

Also no one in their right fuckin mind breadcrumbs doctor.

That's shit you try to HIDE from scum, not give a damn whether town believes you or not.

Weird, because the last time I was doctor I got shit for not breadcrumbing.

[kunkstar7]

Actually no, it was the most protown player in that game asking for it. I claimed because you asked what I did last night, also because at this point I don't see much good coming from my role.

I'm not joining your wagon until Jack explains his secret reasons.

xReckx, MPR, Fate, or Haylen, the last three scum are obv in there.

I think either a MPR or Haylen lynch is best at this point, pending "secret info".

Vote: MPR.

[kunkstar7]

Jack DID just explain his reasons. By way of PoE and time stamps he has reasoned me out to be the secret voter.

WHAT DO U THINK OF THIS???

The problem with his timestamp stuff is that people can send in actions but not be posting in the game, such and such, so any of the flaker/lurkers he ruled out could still possibly be doing it. Also unless he knows personally the mechanics of the secret vote, its even harder to pin down its origins. So no, I don't see that as a good reason to vote Fate. [Also he just said it wasn't his secret reason. so still pending that.]

[kunkstar7]

So I guess my choice didn't matter anyway since Fate messed with it.

[kunkstar7]

Unvote; Vote: Haylen.

Nuff' said.

[kunkstar7]

Are you serious right now Haylen? Trying to discredit his posting because he gets drunk sometimes?

[kunkstar7]

So? Me and he are different people. We have different scumtells and towntells.

But that doesn't automatically make his tells void you know.

[kunkstar7]

hammer Haylen good things will happen.

Seriously, if Fate has said anything decent all game its this. In every combination so far Haylen has been obvscum theres no reason to not lynch her tonight, and let scum screw themselves over with their nightkill.

[btw jack I'm a him >_>]

[kunkstar7]

Btw. I was town. Fate is an SK, lynch him. I know an SK when I see one >.>

Which makes perfect sense with one kill per night for three nights. Right.

Not believing the xReck/Fate scumclaim until I see the lynch.

[kunkstar7]

THE HELL?

VOTE: HAYLEN.

WHY ARE YOU NOT DEAD.

Way to make it extremely obvious scum...

Protected RC last night again, as per Fate's instructions.

[kunkstar7]

I've been posting enough to not get replaced.

So your saying a 7 day, then ~10 day, then 5 day, then 18 day absence[admittedly yes 15 days of this was V/LA] isn't enough to get replaced, then I don't know what is. Overall that is ~40 days of no posting streaks.

Haylen better be dead.

[kunkstar7]

miss who he sent the bp vest too

I knew there was a reason I didn't have to protect you! Pretty bad doc skills from me this game

[kunkstar7]

Ha, I can live with that. Jack deserved his win out of this for looking excellently protown. Question though, did you not shoot because you received the BP vest or for other reasons?

[kunkstar7]

Hm, didn't put much stock in kill flavors this game actually. Now that you point it out it seems obvious, but what about the "Strangled" kill?

[kunkstar7]

SHIT, we didnt send in a kill just in case, and now it's day 6. WHERE ARE YOU!!!

___________________

Oh awesome you died.

So, im gonna sit here and talk to myself for a while and hope my one shot redirector gambit pulls through.

*slowly rocks back and forth.*

Sweet, sweet justice.