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Expect more details late tonight BUT for now:
ML is awesome.
RC is pretty awesome.
Dram is not super scum and I seriously don't get the twirling mustaches busted scum vibe from it because its pretty clear something weird happened last night.
Sudo_Nym was a really weird lynch and I'm absolutely baffled by the patronus claim ESPECIALLY as some kind of counterclaim to that. The only issue is its a 1-1 that makes me twice.
Tinfoil theory I really want to explore more: Ooba was trying to signal to his peeps he was a traitor through who he was suspicious of and may* have drawn the kill for it. This would point at RC, Kmd, Esp, MMM having probably two scum in it.
Tinfoil theory two: Something REALLY strange happened last night and ooba wasn't even the target of it. We are, more likely than not, missing an actual Death Eater kill (flavor speculation the only way it makes sense for ooba to be a DE-kill is if they have individualized kill flavor and they sent Fenrir to do it).
I'm pissed, PISSED that jmj is town* because I was all ready to get a murdering.
On the short list:
Esp, Raj, Fur, MPR, IH
You'll get more tonight-
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I've got all my nephews so I dont get to bite in as much as I want to but:
Esp's claim hasn't a.) been explained so it actually makes sense and b.) still doesn't fit as 'Prongs the Patronus'.
b.) alone is almost enough to lynch for. Especially since, if b.) is right like I think it is a mass-nameclaim might be AWESOME because the fakeclaims are non-existent or f--.
Dram's jump to a doc protect because no wizard kill isn't a smoking gun. Its worth looking at, sure, but the esp business REALLY bothers me.
And, of course, if he's actually "lynchproof" that needs to be tested.-
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No - "lynchproof" is one of those claims that HAS to be tested.
Not to mention lynchproof = counterclaiming a jailer.
And its hella bedtime.
GOD paranoia: What role would make sense to be lynchproof unless "something happened" in Harry Potter?-
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You get more with quotes and stuff when I'm back in the realm of the living but that "I may or may not be lynchproof thus the jailer is lying and I don't know what my role actually does" is not awesome.
And I was alluding to a Voldemort / Harry - both are BP while the other is alive kinda madness but that's tinfoil.
1.) Esp - As stated it absolutely doesn't add up.
2.) This is harder. ESSENTIALY I'd be cool with any of Raj, Fur, MPR, IH and probably in that orderish (IH is last because it just needs to be replaced, Fur needs a real sit down analysis because thats gut, Raj could be bulletfood and MPR isn't doing anything)-
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I just don't see that as a slip. Looking at the flavor missing an actual wizard kill makes sense. Thats the biggest part by a wide margin.@ spyrex, why dont you think dram is a good lynch? do you not agree that his slip 90% confirms that he is scum or a doc? either he's a scum whose kill didn't go through, or he's a doc and he assumed his protection went through. the fact that i was targeted last night by what i assume was a killing action (which i am 99% sure i survived because of my role, not because of any protection on me), and the fact that HE DIDNT READ THAT before he posted his thing saying 'ooo looks like the doc got lucky' makes me think he's scum as opposed to a doc. do you agree or disagree?-
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RC:
A, B, and C are all solid. Yes. However, I still don't think its a slip because of:
D.) Ohh, there was one kill last night. It was torn to shreds. There was no wizard kill. Looks like a doc got lucky.
The issue everyone is having is the last bit which could be:
Looks like a doc got lucky
Looks like a RB got lucky
Looks like we have a BP
Looks like they both wanted him dead
Etc.
Replacing in to one kill I assumed that -something- happened last night to deflect at least a kill.
Thats why I dont like this wagon.-
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I didn't need to "see" something to know that 1 kill in this setup sure as hell didn't make sense and then, upon reading the flavor, what kill missing seemed pretty obvious.regardless of what "deflected" the kill, most people didn't see it, and his "congratulations" was more of "an unintentional admission of guilt".
Furthermore, as NS just showed, he is STILL making slipups.
And that YOU = the town = I am scum = wooosh.-
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Did fur just not only request a mass name claim but say lying is a good idea and THEN claim the name?
ML - its too obvious. Now, if one of those two die and, in fact, flip AC then we can talk. Not enough for me to want Esp not dead
Speaking of:
I'm still waiting for how that claim makes sense on its own merits AND how it serves as a quasi-cc of the jailer.-
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I'll take it up with the mod after the game if you flip town (hint: you wont).
My ONLY hesitation is how weird doing that is as scum but I'm not going to second guess myself more about it.
This needs to happen.-
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No seriously if asking for a votecount was a scumtell you'd be hung in games in 2013 for this one alone.
I'm tempted to nominate you for Votecount? the title good gravy.-
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If you're gonna claim role-savior you better damn well explain it because like I've been asking for over and over an explanation on how that makes sense at all would be awesome.-
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Yes, I want specifics of how what he said correlates to your role.
Of course, as it sits he is a MUCH preferable lynch but if you want to derail it I need a damn good reason.-
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I, flat out, have no knowledge of dram's alignment besides what I see and the simple knowledge that I, as town, thought the same thing seeing that.
So, yes, if I'm wrong I totally see the push for my danglin'.
I just dont think I'm wrong-
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No, I'm saying you can hammer regardless of alignment and I will applaud you as a hero. This needs to happen, only you can prevent forest fires.
Traitors -normally- know who the mafia are but the mafia are not aware of who the traitor is. Sometimes the mafia know a traitor is IN the game, sometimes not. Sometimes its backwards and the mafia know the traitor but the traitor doesn't know the mafia.
In short, its the worst best kill to have-
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If you actually lit me on fire I swear mr man.
You've got an opportunity I'd love and you're squandering it with your precious "reading"
How about this, I'll unvote, you vote, then I'll hammer then its MY fault.
Unvote-
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He claimed to be Prongs, the Patronus and that somehow (still not sure) was reason to counterclaim the Jailer leading to that death.
We'll leave flavor issues aside some but yea. Dangle.-
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You're getting there. (Prongs was his dads nickname and MAYBE that could apply to Harry's Patronus buttttt doubtful)
Its like you see it. You feel it.
You're just not voting it.-
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Yes good sir I know what the Pacific Northwest is I AM the pacific northwest WHAT now.
And yes that plan, although I'm a little fuzzy on part two, is a good one. Especially the lynching Esp part.-
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Is there a timelimit on night that I'm missing?
Because, if that is the case then hells yea.
And the yelling is my stick yo. No hard feelings. <3
I bet you're an Oregonian, aren't you.-
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Ohh hells yes if its set then lets grease this pig.
At the very least it'll shake this thread into doin stuff.
Ooou another WA'er I can accept that. I hope you're not an eastsider, for your sake.-
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Thats why I say most likely - theoretically, key characters could be not in the game and left for fakeclaims for just that train of thought. I mean, its not gonna be a LYNCH HARRY SNAP but you know.
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Ohh I know. MOST likely is approximately 90% and, depending on WHO claimed it, probably an insta-town.
(West-side and don't know where the mountain is? Ohh lord you're in Bellingham aren't you)-
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Hrmmm hurry up I'm sleepy.
(Not Pierce or Thurston. Probably King. Not Seattle proper. Everett or Issaquah)
OHH PREVIEW EDIT IF YOU SCREW THIS UP AND HE FLIPS SCUM YOU ARE A DEAD MAN
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Me, all me.
P.s. nows not the time for that and I swear if Andruis votes before 1:00 AM and you don't hammer I will flip this wagon SO HARD
(Not you Andruis, the furmachine)-
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(Hmmm PM me if you want to talk more about Washington and its awesomness)
If, when I get up, Esp is not lynched I'm going to just post RALLY CALL and every post will be a vote for fur or a implicit declaration of being scum. I am serious.
Esp dies or fur dies. Or you F-- and lynch me for it.
Regardless. There will be blood.-
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It was that line that got me killed? Sheesh. I was thinking there was a Harry / Voldemort esqe unlynchable until the other is killed thing going on.
I assumed it was for my tinfoil about ooba that was right for all the wrong reasons.
And you are very, very welcome for me killing the SK. I am a scum MVP for that thank you very much
And while I'm not flavor lord Prongs the Patronus still doesn't make sense and reeked of a "mod didn't provide fakeclaims" bit.-
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The only thing I was sad to see was that no one questioned the giant discussion Andrius and I had about "Key roles in the move may, in fact, be fakeclaims" and then I'm dead.
Silly rabbits.
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