Of Gods And Men (GAME OVER!)

[dramonic]

Woah, 11 pages in a day, you guys aren't pushovers! This game is gonna be fun!

Now then, a few things I want to adress.

First, my vote isn't affected by the delirium, just saying.

@ABR: I'm fine with you playing town leader with a psychosis complex. Also, my estimate is 2x4 + 2x1 for the scum/SK question.

@DTM: With a post restriction like that, I would really like if you could not post too often. Or at the very least try to tone it down. You can swear and be polite in the same post. Also, read the votecounts correctly instead of spouting crap.

@Rajh: It IS OMGUS that you're doing though. SK voted you on a random whim because your name is hell to spell and you're going all defensive.

@SpyreX: When you say ANY targeting ability, does that include worship targets? If so we don't want to be worshipping the great old ones, yes?

@Percy: AFAIK we can't worship the endless...

@Fate: Why the hell is your vote on Plum(SK) with a pair of comments against Chrono. Erm whut?

@MO: You might be an hydra and all, but if the troll half puts an idea forward and the Zito half jumps the otehr way you sure as hell have better have a good explanation other than "hydra, pay no mind"

@Parama: Fate is 3rd party because...?

[dramonic]

also

Vote: Mina

[dramonic]

Dram, I don't care about your squeamish little cock. If you don't like my posts then go the fuck away. I'm going to play this game regardless how you guys handle my PR.

Be more like MO/Ice who's trying to scum hunt me. Be less like scummy-chrono who complains about my PR.

Dram shot up on my scumometer.

You're being a moron here DTM. Seriously, there is a way to play the game without being an ass to everyone in every interaction, even if your role says you have to swear.

I don't think you're scum, why would I scumhunt you?

[dramonic]

16 Snow_Bunny (1) - SpyreX, Nikator, Starbuck
17 Nikanor (2) -
18 Mina (3) - dramonic
19 SpyreX (0) -
20 Katy (0) -

This is correct?

Seriously Starbuck, voteless again?

[dramonic]

Vote mechanics, dude.

All votes and actions are shifted down by 2 as per Spyrex's ability.

Read da thread...

For dramonic, DTMaster, and others that didn't bother to read the previous pages :

Now then, a few things I want to adress.

First, my vote isn't affected by the delirium, just saying...

Read the thread heh?

[dramonic]

for those who have reading issues:

My votes are not affected by Delirium

[dramonic]

@EL
well it looks more like Dram is voteless, but I think it's just an error (see his quote) Kathy has 0 when Dram is 2 spots above Kathy voting for her/him/it.

where's the crotch reference here!

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@ABR: You don't particularely look like it, based on the last VC.

24 rajrhcpfreak (2) - Faraday
25 CryMeARiver (2) - Fate, Mina
26 Iecerint (1) - Mighty Mighty Mighty Orbots, Rampage
27 Ortolan (2) -
28 DTMaster (2) -

@Ort: Policy lynch are bad, policy vigs are good!

@Tar: Can't you be normal for a change?

@Iec: I believe SpyreX, he seems intent on worshipping the GOO, had it been a simple vote the target would've been screwed over.

@Starbuck: If you don't think you'll be able to keep up with the game you ought to replace, since it doesn't look like the speed will die down and the longer the game the harder to get a replace in :S

[dramonic]

If everyone thinks your scummy, chances are you're doing it wrong...
Not giving a damn will only result in getting mislynched as town or lynched as scum. In either case it goes against your wincon :S

[dramonic]

This reads as "People in worshippable factions should totally out themselves for me"

[dramonic]

I see not too much has happened since I left.
@Nik: No, I vote whoever I'm voting for

Unvote
Vote: Ortolan

I'll be sending my worship target.

@Fate: Was that execution for real or is that a stupid joke?

[dramonic]

From my personal experience with CMAR I don't think he's scum.
Anyways his play here when compared to Mafia in Mendo is pretty different.

[dramonic]

why are you not ready?

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Good to know you're lurking, dramonic.

Why do you want to know? Maybe it's because I want to finish my posts to ooba and Starbuck first.

Or maybe I'm the combination healer-roleblocker-dayvig-cop, and the scum should nightkill me before I rip them a new one. Are you trying to rolefish?

Oh yes, I totally am.
Maybe it's because you're trying to find a way to divert attention off your scum partner, that's also an option.
Why the hell would you consider my question rolefishing. You could be Lakshmi for all I care.

[dramonic]

It's an option, albeit bad. My point is that the fact I'm curious as to the reason you wanna delay the lynch is not something particularly abnormal.

[dramonic]

=_=
wrong format, wrong target
seriously CMAR.

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oh, lol nevermind.
I forgot the one two below CMAR was orto since I don't need to keep track of that stuff <<

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No you can't DTM.

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@Mina: The fact I didn't mention you means your contribution at that point is unsatisfactory by my standard. You are on my top suspect lynch makes it so I dont feel the need to inform you more than that of my opinions. Saves me some WIFOM issue.

I don't like your play and I am led so far to trust in SpyreX's townness quite a lot, therefore I am confortable following his lynch plans, especially on player's of debatable towniness.

Also, this day has lasted far too long.

[dramonic]

YOu can be the test vigshot.
You really ought to be anyways <<

[dramonic]

may I ask why?

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long day can help, but not on day 1 <<

[dramonic]

Iece, please hammer Orto. This day is long due to be over.

[dramonic]

That's Seth, not Set, unless I'm mistaken.

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Well, if I understand the mechanics correctly tomorrow we should get alignment reveals for the two corpses, yes?

[dramonic]

Or nik, depends on the PoV XP

[dramonic]

you'll notice he died delight, not delirium.

[dramonic]

That's nice ooba... Anything to back those reads?

[dramonic]

Parama caught you on that already Nik

[dramonic]

@ ABR, your census taking is a daybreak ability? I thought it would make more sense as a twilight ability. Find it strange that it adds up to 25 instead of 28.

It's Daybreak. I assume that it only takes into account the 25 that are alive.

did you get a census when the game began?
Because that would be useful in establishing the alignment of Mina when the others flip.

[dramonic]

Sure DTM.
You forgot to swear, again.

Anyways, your gut is wrong wrong wrong.

[dramonic]

I voted GOO.
The case on me is funny, considering there's no difference since yesterday but it's just now that anyone is saying stuff.

[dramonic]

Sure Fate, build a wagon on me, that'll be GREAT.
No seriously, what's the deal? Are you going to launch "active lurker" at me? I'm not the only one around here <<

I don't see why VV's claim makes him "oh so confirmed"
Considering Fate and Parama weren't exactly buddy-buddy yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised if the neighbourizer is scum and if the same applies to one of them.

And what the hell is this with "lynch dram for SpyreX" crap? I don't think he'd want to lynch me...
Well I hope so.

[dramonic]

Ooba day 1:
Scum
Mina, Katy, Iece, SK, CMAR, MO

Ooba day 2:
Town
MO, Mina, Iecerint, Katy, CMAR, SK


Find the mistake!

[dramonic]

1. dram's post is incredibly misleading. ooba changed his opinion during the course of D1 on account of new information.

You know, you really ought to look at Ooba's ISO Iece. between the two opinion of his I've posted there are 2 posts about how Tar should play and some other stuff that clearly states his suspicions haven't change. His new list with all the flipped opinions is the FIRST of his post day 2. He hasn't explained what's with the changed opinion.

Even if he were an investigative role that clears one of his suspicions, we're talking 5 here.

SO why don't you let him explain himself and go be scummy on someone else? It's not like you know what he's thinking.

Or perhaps you do

Vote: Iecerint

[dramonic]

V\LA for exactly 24 hours. You can expect a catch up post for this game within 36 hours.

it better be solid with explanation for all the flip-flopping.

[dramonic]

1. Don't forget the red color, dram.
2. I'm pretty sure he said I was town right after I published the Sky saga D1. He also changed his mind on Mina around the same time IIRC. SK being town D2 is because MO claimed a result.
3. I can't remember your other examples, but the fact that you listed all of these as examples of an (implicitly) unexplained/scummy flip-flop when new information clearly informed at least those 3 implies not thinking carefully or deliberately inflating any conceivable case against ooba.

1. right, thanks
2. he never stated to have changed his mind on you and his second to last post implies HEAVILY that he'd want to lynch Mina

You messed up Iece, big time.

Unvote
Vote: Iecerint

[dramonic]

village idiot.

[dramonic]

ANy reason for those opinions, Faraday?

also, V/LA for the weekend.

[dramonic]

EBWOP

V/LA for the weekend

[dramonic]

I'M ALIVE!

[dramonic]

arguably, Fate's play towards the survivor is awful
But it's not scummy. He has no reason scum to mind a survivor, just like he has no reason as town to mind one.

How... peculiar...

[dramonic]

lack of iso is annoying.
What's the evidence against Chrono?

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@MO: You used those investigation two slots above the intended target, yes?

[dramonic]

There's still the sane investigation on Blaze that needs to be explained <<

[dramonic]

Isn't SB the vig?
I feel like I'm falling behind here =_=;

[dramonic]

Snow_bunny, don't shoot me, you'll kill Mina or TNM

[dramonic]

or will it be iece?
I havent decided yet...

[dramonic]

EBWOP:
I.E. don't mock me biatch

[dramonic]

Why you want to shoot me: Active lurking

There, solved the question didn't I?

What I'm telling you though, is that no matter what you try, I won't die from your puny little bullet
If you're desperate to shoot me go ahead, but I wont be the one to die.

also, limbo has nothing to do with a cult. Mina'll be out tomorrow if you don't shoot me. If you do shoot she might die, I dont know who has priority between you and me SB

[dramonic]

well, now that the cats out of the bag...
Anyone we want off for a phase?

[dramonic]

I was thinking lurker, but that's not always scummy.

[dramonic]

Also, if you want to make lurkers your kevlar, why the hell were you considering Limboing me?

it was a joke <<

Mina was scummy to me day 1.
I might as well pick someone who'se lack of contribution will go mostly unnoticed <<

[dramonic]

thus teh EBWOP

[dramonic]

a pretty lousy one <<

[dramonic]

For example, Mina may have gotten happy flavor when she was sent to Limbo. Or she may've gotten OMG U R IN PRIZN flavor.

Or maybe she got a quicktopic and we chatted throughout the day.
Who knows right? <<

[dramonic]

I'll be worshipping JCA

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I read your plan MO, but there is an important flaw in it, which I wont point out.

[dramonic]

Well...
If you can convince the psycho lynchmob who wants me dead to chill I can take someone protown =_=;
but the person I take to limbo becomes my meatshield. If I take someone protown and a vig or lynch hits me the protown guy will get zapped.

[dramonic]

@dramonic, and how about a mafia kill? Would that kill the person in limbo as well? Or is there some other reason you failed to bring that method of death up?

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Same for mafia kills, but so far I seem to have garnered enough negative attention to not be the most viable mafia target :S

@dramonic, also, if your limbo-resident did get killed on a given day would you be able to put someone else in limbo the next night or does it only work until it's protected you once? Or some other mechanic?

Further, do you know if it will work to protect you tomorrow if all abilities, even passive ones, aren't working?

I'm not going to answer the first half. I would suppose I won't be protected if even passive stuff is nulled, but I dont know what would happen then to the person in limbo if I die.

[dramonic]

I don't "mind" the idea per se. I'm not sure it's the best, considering it doesn't block someone who could potentially be scum, but it's better than locking in a town PR <<

[dramonic]

I'm happy you've figured that out.
I really wouldn't consider myself a JK ^_^;

[dramonic]

I wanted to chill with Plum ;_;

[dramonic]

my only relevant abilities are my comm channel with DTMaster and the fact that I leave the game if we lynch or DTMaster kills the Godfather.

Why are you still here and contradicting your next post?

[dramonic]

Lottery: Pawn

[dramonic]

That said, I kind of have to do mental gymnastics to understand how the flavour of his role fits with his abilities.

QFT, although the name of my redirection dodging ability DOES fit <<

[dramonic]

that QT aint exactly game related Iece...

[dramonic]

I'm fine with a mass claim

For what it's worth TNM was on my shortlist for limboing.

Vote: TotallyNotMafia

[dramonic]

VV

[dramonic]

and my ability is REALLY not shield-like

[dramonic]

@MO: Actually they don't get released. The only way (barring that global RB passive stopping thing that just happened) for someone to leave my limbo prison is for me to pick somebody else. I could just someone and lock him up for the whole game if I really wanted.

@Fate: If he's proxied his vote to you, why are there only 3 votes on TNM?

[dramonic]

isn't the gungnir associated with Cuchullain?

[dramonic]

By role title, you mean...?

I have a name, and then my abilities.
There is no, you are "insert basic role name here"

[dramonic]

Not Voting: 23

I think that needs fixing

Bleh, I must have broken the formula when I changed the VC back to its normal version. I'll fix it for the next VC.

[dramonic]

Rolename: White Knight (From Chess... yup o_0)
God\Mortal: mortal
Any Worship Modifiers: none
Worship vote N1: GOO
Worship vote N2: JCA
Faction (if any): -
Ability: As you all know, take someone to limbo and creates a QT in which I get to chat with them at anytime, until I free them by picking someone else (or through weird shit like what happened this morn). They can't do any actions in there. If I get killed in any way my target gets killed in my stead, but I then lose my limboing power. I also cannot be redirected in any way, shape or form (as seen with my votes day 1)
T1 target: Mina
T2 target: Plum
Ability (if your faction gets worship votes): N/A

[dramonic]

I feel so special not being BP but getting a meat-shield instead.
We need the scummier people to claim.
And Alba, what's this about ghost/spirit companion thing?

[dramonic]

erm, you're a mortal.... but aligned with the JCA...
how does that work?

[dramonic]

sorry I'm falling behind, I'll get up to date.

[dramonic]

God, game overload.

[dramonic]

I am FINALLY up to date in my other games
that also means I am not in this one.
It does mean I can finally catch up.

Expect a lame catch-up post in the next few hours!

[dramonic]

@Albatross, I'd like dramonic to put someone the town finds suspicious in Limbo tomorrow and then to try to lynch him. If he goes along with the town's wishes and his ability works how he says it does I'm more comfortable with him.

So basically you want to make me vanilla? That sounds a bit evil...

I do not currently have a QT with Pom, for no adequately explored reason...

Albatross saying I might be the cult recruiter is laughable.

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I'm going to appear ignorant (and I am really), but why didn't we have a night 3?
I thought I was the one responsible for the Pom limboing since I targetted her night 2, but since I don't have a QT and it seems nothing happened either... :S

[dramonic]

wasnt that night 2?

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oh riiight, that's why my limbo cancelled.
So I guess the reason Pom is back in limbo is because my ability reactivated or something 0_o

I still dont have a QT <<

[dramonic]

oh, I got my QT.
we may now carry on

[dramonic]

Vote: Darkstalker

That was kind of a last minute wagondeath

[dramonic]

V/LA for the weekend

[dramonic]

Question 1: Dramonic, did your role have any hint of ambiguity about what your role was at the beginning of the game?
Question 2: Is there any indication in your role PM about another role in the game? (Given what I was informed of last night, I suspect that you might have some information about a black knight or something similar.)
Question 3: Did your series of origin change last night?

Q1: Nope, it was pretty clear.
Q2: Nope, I've nothing about a black knight or otherwise
Q3: Not that I know of? That's a weird question

Also, I didn't worship, because I've been neglecting this game and forgot =_=;

[dramonic]

Well, I guess Beholder decided to be bastardly then, because I'm really just a chess piece.

[dramonic]

Is the wagon on me based on my fairly active lurking or my dubious claim?
Because at this point I'm pretty sure lurker hunting is a waste of a lynch.

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For the record, I'm behind and vanilla in a 126 page game. It would be incredibly evil to ask for a replacement in a context where it's basically impossible to get someone.

And we're out of vigs.
Somehow, I doubt the mafia will be nice enough to end me too.

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3. Dram having been made vanilla is not provable. He could just refrain from putting people into Limbo. I agree that he's not CL, though, because then Mina would be cult, and Mina got LMP killed, and I think LMP was recruited cult.

So Pom died in limbo for no reason at all, all the while Tar shot me and failed, simultaneously.
Go it.

[dramonic]

If I'm targetted for a kill my limboed person dies instead. Didn't you read my claim all those pages ago?
Where's your twice as many coming from?

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END ME X_X

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@Beholder

: Very sorry I lost steam through the game

[dramonic]

I dont wanna get prodded every other day, I dont want my whole posts to be "bump" and stuff like that and I don't want to force beholder to find a replacement in a 131 page game.
Also, I think I'm like, 50 pages behind.

But I'm neither cult nor mafia.